Xbox 360, Wii, PS3 Prices Are Rising - Let's Discuss Why - Adam Koralik
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're discussing the new reality that seventh gen videogames are on the rise in price. Namely, Nintendo Wii, Sony PlayStation 3, and Microsoft Xbox 360 games. Why? Well...it's actually pretty simple.
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I keep going back to my 360 and PS3 even though I have a Series X and a PS5. Why? Because the graphics are good enough. And many times, the games are BETTER.
OG Xbox and 360 games paired with Series X Quick resume = true bliss!
@@andyscoming4919 Oh yes! I hope they add more backwards compatibility in the future. I LOVE playing 360 games on the Series X.
@@CarsandCats Unfortunately...prolly NOT gonna happen, Bruv. The way Spencer talks out the side of his neck speaks volumes as to what projects MS invests in to diminishing returns. 💔💔💔
I actually wish the OG MvC2 would be back-compat!!! THAT would be dope upcoverted to 4k UHD!!! 🤩🤩🤩
@@gummislayer1969 Modded Xbox 360 console master race reporting in. :D If one had to choose between the three consoles to get modded, 360 just offers the best value proposition of them all in my arrogant opinion. You miss out on the PS2 back compat with the PS3 and you miss out on a ton of the Nintendo library from the Wii to the N64, plus no Project Plus, but what you get in return is absolutely staggering. Also, splitscreen Halo.
@@arnox4554 I don't doubt you enjoy your modded 360. I get the value of 360 ecosystem & such. I do have an S & QUITE enjoy it.
Buuuuuut, AGAIN - Spencer ain't talkin right. AND I can't see how burning through a bunch of cash (long-term?!?!?) is a winning strategy for MS. Don't think they are going to get out of the hardware business just yet. For now...🤔🤔🤔
(Sigh...) A LOT of weird 💩💩💩 going on in the land of the Win 95 flag...
I'm 27 now. Sitting on a giant pile of games I'm not getting rid of any time soon. Probably never.
why get rid of stuff hick i have stuff i will never get rid off also why should we
@@waterup380 Like he said in the video some people just get in need of money and sell their games.
Yes and they gf wife or bf or husband tell them to get rid of stuff @@thatssomegoodpie
@@waterup380 I couldn't imagine losing all my save data, all those hours gone
Well I'm 27 and I'm a game collector, sitting with 351 PS3 games, 86 Xbox 360 games, 55 PS4, games, and consoles from 4 X PS1 Classic Mini's, 4 PS2s modded with OPL and an external hdd full of all my old games, 2 X PS3s, busy getting another Xbox 360 E and a PS4...going for Xbox One soon too...I'll never sell my stuff, I enjoy playing and collecting games too much
Also I feel the 360/wii/ps3 era is growing because it’s the last generation to truly have physical copies complete on the disc.
Because this is the last real game console generation with the great library. After this we got weak PCs with DRM.
The 7th gen consoles have so many good games to play that will never come to modern platforms
We'll see how wrong you are years from now.
@mistabrown830 at least we got xbox back compat for some of them
Xbox 360 was great but was the first console with update patches & dlc. The PS2, Gamecube and original xbox is the last true classic generation where you got the full game on disk with no bugs or dlc. Xbox 360 & PS3 was just the beginning but got worse with Xbox One, PS4 and the current gen PS5 & Xbox Series X
@@AWISECROW the only real console nowadays is the switch, and if I had to buy one console it would be that. PS5 with it's incommensurable library of a dozen exclusive games that include two remakes and a tech demo would be the worst value offer ever if the xbox series didn't exist or if PC didn't make it redundant.
Let's face it, the current one is a horrible generation and people are being scammed.
At 61 years of age, my passion for collecting is part of my late mid-life crisis. Fortunately I obtained the bulk of my collection over the last decade or so. I have probably 95% of what I want but the last couple of dozen games are becoming somewhat more challenging to obtain, which is fine too.
Basically any console reaching close to 20 years in age has had its games go up significantly in price. Its par for the course at this point and doesnt surprise me at all.
Doesn’t for me either. Happened a few years ago with GameCube/PS2 stuff. That’s stuff has since dipped in price a bit. The same will probably happen with PS3/360 stuff eventually
I haven’t seen the n64 or ps2 change very much in price. They seem pretty static depending on location. Does the amount in circulation affect prices considering the n64 doesn’t break or there’s just so many ps2 slims? I been trying to hunt for an og Xbox and can’t find working ones at non inflated prices. Then we have the snes which still is pretty expensive. nes is more like “good luck finding one that works”
the ps3 will reach 20 in less than 2 years so that is how much of a window we have left before practically everything will start to spike.
I'm 20 now, taking a year out after college (equivalent to the final two years of high school) and been replaying my old 360/wii games (and just playing more games in general, old and new). I'll NEVER get rid of my games and consoles - they're priceless to me.
I got rid of my DS Lite in high school and totally regret it know. But I may consider shifting towards another handheld like a Atari Lynx games luckily I collected all SNES and N64 games when they were cheap another thing I am a only child also my mother has had a eBay since 1999 and still goes to thrift shop to flip stuff during the 2000s and early 10s you could find N64 and SNES games under 5 dollars. Sometime cents especially in the 2000s I paid a 1.50 for Majoras Mask in 2014 at a Goodwill
@@patrickmcdonnell8835 You should consider getting a 3DS if you still have your DS games. It's backwards compatible.
been watching since 2014, i was 12, im almost 22 now
Appreciated!
Same
Many people, including Adam were calling this years in advance. I distinctly remember Adam predicting the rise of 6th gen prices, which was very accurate. As a very, VERY early Gen Z kid, the first Generation I was physically able to watch unfold was the 7th Gen. I remember 7th gen being the relevant thing in stores, with 6th gen being nearly worthless. Places like GameStop had to basically pay *you* to take all their GameCube stuff, and I'm talking the first party Nintendo stuff.
The rise of 6th Gen prices taught me this concept, and it's now occurring with 7th gen stuff. Thankfully, in my case, I still have most of my 7th gen stuff from the 360 and Wii. Am I cashing out? No. I am in my mid 20s and I really have grown passionate about collecting. I do plan to scratch off what I'm missing in fact ASAP. The only roadblock is the PS3. Notice how I omitted it? I actually never owned one back then.
I have all three
I think the last wave is the most devastating to me. There will be a time we will get into an retirement home where is no space, and/or finally die.
Then there will be no one left who has a desire for these and all these gems that were hard to aquire will find their way into the dumpster, sooner or later.
I saw it when my father died last christmas. The only things interesting were some tools, pictures and that's it. Everything else was thrown into the dumpster. Nobody wanted it,
not even for free on our craigslist equivivalent. That hard truth really makes me sad looking into the future.
estate sales exist
So just enjoy your collection while you can, you won’t care what happens to it when you’re gone
Or have kids so they can throw it in the dumpster for you
I have been buying PS3 games on ebay recently and have not noticed prices going up. They seem to still be pretty cheap.
PS3 had an early spike when we thought Sony was going to shut down its online store. It caused a lot of us to pay more attention to the system and realized a lot of games that haven't been re-released started going up. I thankfully got most of what I wanted before that happened.
Most of the common and well played games are still dirt cheap but some of the more uncommon and rarer titles have been slowly rising in value. As the other guy said. when the psn network shuts down for good all of these games will start having a spike in prices that is unavoidable. currently i am buying all the games i could find that are still cheap and even managed to score a few rarer games cheap cause people dont know better but once they do just like the ps1 and ps2 they will become practically impossible to find cheap anymore.
The late millennials and early zoomers are nostalgic now. Brace yourselves
Well, let’s just hope that means they’ll stay away from the 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit stuff.
(I doubt it..)
Ure actually spot on Im 20 and im going through a nostalgia phase right now 😅😂.
Yeah but we don’t have much disposable income, it might stagnate
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Home console wise I will go as low as 32bit when it comes to handhelds I collect Game gear, Gameboy and advance
Ironically, I just dusted the old ps3 a couple weeks ago to replay old games and run ps1 games. Oh, and also bought a Ps2.
I'm 41 this year. Most people buy a Porsche when they hit that mid-life panic range. I figured it'd be cheaper and more enjoyable to back-catalog my childhood consoles instead. I'm not looking for complete libraries, just fun stuff I missed out on due to region locks / lack of modding communities at the time. I'm acquiring spare consoles for emulation purposes so I don't have to mess up my originals / physical media. As for what I'll do with them, who knows? Haven't thought that far ahead. I don't know if, like comics, certain rare vintage titles will hold their value, but it'd be nice.
"Damn Zoomers" - Someone probably
Well thing is not only nostalgia but today's modern gaming leaves much to be desired. From broken games with massive day one patches, microtransactions to repetitive boring open world games and ideologies been forced into gaming. Those things are enough to keep most gamers away from modern gaming and into retro machines and games. I personally prefer to play more on my PS2 and PS3 than my PS4 and I don't even own a PS5.
I have read that 50% of all females will not have a partner by 2030 while 30% of all men do not want a relationship.
From this, many are looking for other things to fill it, which for many is doing things that brought/gives them happiness.. such as playing video games and as today's consoles do not live up to the standard, so many are looking to older consoles.
Just look on Japan n
I am 42, and I have 3 kids
Back in 2014, I was buying Wiis for as cheap as $5. People were tossing them out. Bought a NES for $20 and a N64 for $30.
I think the idea that the 7th gen is now becoming “classic” or “retro”
I own 4 ps3’s for absolutely no reason, and when they go up even more, i’ll dump them off for stuff i genuinely want. Also, the prior gen is just insanely expensive. Dreamcast is untouchable. GC is expensive, and ps2/xbox are rising as well
Dame boat here, with 9 n64 2 ps3 and 6 gamecubes 😊
Atleast OG xbox and ps2 games are pretty easy to find for cheap
I'm actually in the process of selling my PS3, 360 and video game collection in general. Most of it just sits on my shelves un played. I've been slowly converting my consoles into ODEs, modded hard drives, and Everdrives and it's just so much more convenient. At the end of the day all I ever really wanted was to play the games on real hardware on a CRT and that's what I can do now. Plus I can play translations and hacked versions of the games and modded versions of the games it's just so much cooler. I have no reason to put a Super Nintendo cartridge of donkey Kong country in my SNES when I can play the MSU-1 version on my FXPAK Pro....
and best of all I don't have to worry about the rat race of collecting and ridiculous prices, I'm done paying high prices for games that frankly ain't worth the price..
Instead I have been taking the money that I've been making from selling my video game collection and paying off my debt instead and collecting consoles and VHS now. Much cheaper and fun.
The kids can fight over the physical games and the ridiculous prices. Have fun!
Also a big issue at the moment I don’t think you mentioned is that most new games suck so people are looking to older games instead.
yeah I've been playing a lot of great old games from 6th gen/7th gen and even games I skipped in the 8th gen from xb1/ps4 I am going back to play those too. The only new games I still get excited for are the Switch exclusive games.
@@CarlC9898 I’m doing the same
Yeah opposite for me on the switch i started to down size that collection @CarlC9898
@@poopn69 good idea tbh, a lot of the games for me were play once and sell after so my Switch collection doesn't become a big size. It's rare for me to go back to a game (some exceptions like Mario Kart or Mario Party).
@@sandman8920 wise man
Hard to say how pronounced the increase will be. Obviously the Dreamcast and GameCube had big jumps in value, but 7th gen is different. There were a lot of remasters. Digital sales were a lot bigger, and you can get a lot of Xbox games through BC on the store. Also, a lot of 360 and PS3 games were multiplats on pc as well, as opposed to earlier when they made different games. majority of Wii games were shovelware that noone will be nostalgic about. PS3 exclusives that were never remastered like Resistance or Infamous, Motorstorm would go up I would have thought, but they did sell millions
24 years old here, struggling medical student (so unfortunately that meant I had sell a bunch of imports sadly, but I however, replaced them with ODEs/Everdrives) though you may argue that it doesn’t feel the same. More so, I didn’t get into collecting or looking back into retro content until mid 2021 and it’s been very fun in the past few years!
I’m 35 and exactly like you Adam. I never get rid of anything and just keep on collecting 😆
That era of games was extremely underrated! Now we look at the current state of gaming. We now can appreciate how amazing that generation was at the time especially sports games! I’ve been playing the PS3 more than the PS5 and SX!
Underrated? Back in 2007 we all knew we lived in peak gaming era.
Underrated? What?
@@ELEKTROSKANSEN yes underrated! I didn’t say we didn’t know how great the games were but we didn’t appreciate them more! The games and consoles.
Must be a US thing, nothing like this is happening in the UK. The only thing that is expensive are the backwards comparable PS3's
Demographics do change from country to country, yes, but the core concept remains the same.
I got to agree with you there. 360, PS3 and most PS2 games are still very cheap over here. I've noticed slightly older systems like the N64, Gamecube, Saturn, Dreamcast have gone up more in recent years.
I’m in the UK too. It’s a really mixed bag: 360 games are sometimes really cheap (many are a couple of pounds in places like CEX). PS2 is largely cheap, DS is reasonable and 3DS is starting to rise (Pokemon games are always £30+). GameCube has been pricy since about 2011 (when I went back to collecting GCN games just before prices got silly. For example I got Twilight Princess for £17 then. I haven’t seen it for less than £50 since). Wii is cheap as chips, aside from the bigger titles, mainly first party. Older cartridges are a real mixed bag: some Mega Drive games run from a couple of pounds to silly money, SNES is strange (Star Fox, despite only being available on the SNES mini, is dirt cheap, but Zelda and Super Metroid are £20+ even though they have been available multiple times since). One that is annoying, but purely from a hardware point, is Game Gear, which was my first system. The games are dirt cheap, but good luck finding a working Game Gear to play them on. Thankfully a lot are the same or very similar on SMS, which is a great cheap retro system to collect here (as it was very popular back in the day). A SMS 2 is next to nothing (as long as you are happy with RF) and the big titles like Sonic are a couple of pounds. For a bit more you can get a model 1 with RGB SCART output. On a crt these old consoles through RGB look fantastic.
I blame the scalpers, although at this point probably more then a 1/3 of the "fat" ps3's are dead...
Scalpers aren't the problem, but they do contribute to it.
A repair technique was semi-recently discovered where people found they could basically replace the OG PS3 GPU with a slim PS3 version of the GPU. This effectively allows once broken fat PS3s to be fixed completely. They're called Frankenstein PS3s or FrankenPS3s. Just a warning though. They aren't cheap.
Also, buying things they missed out on. Such as, I had a 360 ... but missed out on PS3 GoW, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank, etc. Drives up $s additionally
Actually, this is the best time to buy all your games from the soon to be removed Microsoft Store on the Xbox 360. It's gonna end this summer.
Hey Adam, literally just turned 25 today. Been watching ya for over 10 years now so this isn't new to me. I've been collecting since I was 10, have always been a nostalgic/collector before whatever age crisis was supposed to hit, I just bought up whatever was cheap at time like 5th, 6th and 7th Gen as the 8th Gen rolled on.
The current state of retro and modern gaming has pushed me away now that people my age are getting into collecting that I've slowly been selling off some games/consoles and just feeling content with what I have and pretty much collecting whatever physical Nintendo games come out for now on. I currently have everything from PS1 to series x, tho my series x is a glorified back compat machine. Collecting isn't the same anymore like it used to be when most people didn't care and while I was still a kid learning.
Weird thing about 360 games is that the Japanese versions are actually the more expensive ones whereas with other consoles it's usually the other way around for some reason.
The thing I've been curious about with Xbox360 and PS3 as far as these nostalgia bubbles is if they would see as big a bubble as previous generations. If you look at the best sellers on those systems there are a lot of games that are either still available or have been remade for new platforms.
Wii I figured might get a decent bubble because it's so unique even though it was so overproduced. The other two I've been skeptical on.
I have almost every game I would ever want or care for on the PS3, 360, and Wii. And if I don't have it, I'll eventually emulate it, or use a homebrew storefront like PKGJ to download a digital version. Same with the 3DS.
I’m about to be 18 so I am gen z and I collect for ps4 and ps5 but, also have recently been collecting more for my Xbox 360 and ps3.
With the current housing market and economy i wonder if a large amount of zoomers wont just look at the price of a house and then the price of an old xbox 360 game and think, you know what its 2006 forever now.
I saw an house that was 200k 4 years ago and now it doubled
9:46-10:07 Thanks Adam, you really know how to age someone by a decade in one sentence, I didn't wanna think about the fact that 2005 babies are uni students
You mean high school students (in senior year)
I'll be honest, I haven't noticed this much at all. Maybe for the Wii, but I think the Wii is rising because it's a Nintendo console. With Nintendo hardware, prices always jump because people all play the same games on the consoles, leading to the most amount of nostalgia for the same 10 or so games. PS3 and Xbox 360 I haven't found are going up at all, neither are the PSP or DS systems. Literally a week ago I scored a copy of Red Dead Redemption CIB for $10 on eBay, and just today I bought RDR: Undead Nightmare CIB for $13 on eBay. I also bought Mass Effect today for $8 (not CIB, but still). I haven't found that prices are ramping up at all, could just be an American thing since I live in Canada. If they were to start going up, it would be when nostalgia for those consoles peak in general, not just for the Wii. Typically it hits like a wave: right now I'd say we're still in the 5th generation nostalgia boom, where the PS1, Saturn, N64, and GBC continue to rise in value, though it's near it's end and scalpers are moving to the 6th generation, along with people becoming nostalgic for the PS2, GameCube, Xbox and Dreamcast, along with the GBA. 7th Generation consoles aren't really there yet, I'd give them another 4-5 years before nostalgia sets in and prices really go up. The retro game collecting scene is also dying down right now, the people who got into it for something to do during COVID are mostly moving on now and prices in general I've noticed are starting to slip.
Cool vid, Gen Xer here, and I started collecting back when I was in college. Thankfully, that allowed me to build a solid collection from the 5th gen to current. I don't plan on stopping though lol. I've built up my Genesis collection and started working on the SMS as well. As far as the 7th gen goes, I've just been rounding out my 360 library.
You filled in a (knowledge) gap that I didn't yet understand. The psychology behind it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the in depth explanation!
Good thing I bought ps3, Wii, and 360 games in 2014-2017 when they were cheap and no one wanted them at half price books, on online, and disc replay.
I'm a couple years younger than you. You could never catch me selling a retro console or prized accessories unless things are beyond dire. So the cycles of interest thing wouldn't apply to me, at least insofar as letting hardware go during troughs. I intend to continue to collect, mod, hack, customize, etc. I don't have any kids, but if I eventually do, my gaming stuff would be a plus for them, so I see no reason for that to be at odds with this. Having less free time for the hobby because of kids could result in me putting pause on it, but it would never result in my pushing it away or getting rid of my stuff.
THIS!!! 🤩💙🎮
I think it's more so the strain on finances that makes people sell the stuff. And kids do add a lot of expenses even just for necessary things like food, clothing, diapers, etc. Not to mention childcare if you/your partner can't always be at home caring for them, and stuff they need for school once they reach school age...
@@Laz3rCat95 (double time) THIS!!! 😔💔🎮
Listen...I REALLY hated it when old heads start talkin bout "I'm older than you".😳 😳 😳. Uhh, sooooooo!?!???
The fact of the matter remains: when you got small children - that REQUIRES a lot of finances, prolly that you don't currently have. I was fortunate enough to get back in the game (literally) before it cost me an arm & a leg. 🤑🤑🤑
I think the older we get, we should be remembering what it was like when we "didn't have", instead of criticizing the younger crowd for (REALLY!?!?) "not having it"...
I said it before, I'll say it again: gaming (retro, in particular) is NOT a poor man's sport. Just my 2 "sense"...🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
35 now and for sure went through the post college phase of asking my mom to give me all my boxes of games, consoles, and accessories (never got rid of them always kept them). And because I got money, I started collected games I never had as a kid but always wanted. Currently married with 2 kids, I’d rather wait for a house down payment than to sell my games to help with the down payment, haha. Also, my wife knows how much I enjoy my games and my daughter enjoy them too.
Nostalgia factors in for collecting and perception of value. That "growing up" era raises feelings of comfort - when things weren't so chaotic now that you're older. I see videos where comments say "PS3 / PS2 / PS1/ N64/ SNES (etc) was the best era of gaming". For each generation its different. The feeling of reliving that childhood again through those games is so comforting that people collect them, as it reminds them of a simpler life - making them feel the nostalgia of that long ago time.
Great video. Enjoyed your analysis and can relate. I'm a Gen X'er (48 years old). The times I bought I got sucked into the nostalgia. About the time I got the classics I wanted I had the sudden realization the nostalgia I was chasing felt empty. I was remembering everything through rose colored glasses. I then sold. Then years pass and I see myself looking at Facebook marketplace and eBay for old systems, hardware, full size arcades. I know it's inevitable going down the same path and know ahead of time how it will end. Insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result. The excitement of collecting and reminiscing is too tempting. Nostalgia is powerful.
It depends how you approach it. Yes, nostalgia is powerful, but if you really get into it from the beginning, and you are able to realize that it's not just a phase, then you are a "real gamer" for life. Games you like stay forever with you and you don't feel empty about them. They are just another thing that is part of you regardless of how old you get. It feels different, they are somehow part of your life in a deeper way. That's my case. In your case it seems that they were a hobby in your childhood, or teen years, and you feel now that you've "outgrown" them. You were just a casual gamer due to your age back then, nothing wrong with that, different strokes for different folks.
Im 52 from the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64 generation.
I love collecting for PS1 , PS2 and PS3 , currently in Australia PS3 games are dirt cheap , thus the PS3 has become my favorite machine .
Elder Millenial, here (42yrold): I grew up with Atari, NES, and the 16-bit systems, but I bever felt compelled to go back and collect games from Generation 1-6. Generation 7, however -- the X360 and PS3 -- was when we had finally started to see what gaming could really become, with the right advancements.
That said, I'm glad I collected the 250 or so 360/PS3 games worth owning when they were $5 a piece! For me, seeing the rise of digital distribution and decline if physical media motivated me to get what I wanted for me and a few years back.
I'm looking forward to Dreamcast games coming a bit down in price. There were a few that I only rented or borrowed in high school that I would love to play again, but not for the outrageous prices they've been lately. Very fittingly, I missed out on that low point in the cycle because I was buying SNES and N64 games in the mid-late 2000s because I only owed Sega stuff (and an NES) growing up, but I always enjoyed stuff my friends and family had. (It's safe to say I fit the curve you described.)
Hope people soon realize the new games sealed wise … older people have storage units full of unopened retail boxes for years waiting to unload them on eBay when prices get hiked … there’s plenty to go around but they’re hoarded by a small few
I need one so badly (ps3), Sometimes I just feel to play some gow ascension and psnow streaming doesnt cut it.
Never thought of a timeline for spikes on prices. Good to know for retro collectors. Now i know why when i wait for a game why it goes down to the amount that i can purchase. Thanks for this video i will be using this knowledge for future purchases on my retro games! Now i can just use a little bit of math to Figure It Out. Ha-Ha!!
I'll be 39 in a few months and I was lucky enough to begin collecting all my childhood cartridge based games before the big explosion in popularity. Although I never got rid of my childhood games, I was able to purchase games I WISH I had when I was younger at reasonable prices, years ago. Early PS2 era, I got into a serious relationship and pretty much pushed video games to the side. If it weren't for my GF at the time buying me a PS2, I never would have even owned one to begin with, I barely even played it. The 360, Wii, PS3 era came and went without me even caring at all about it. It camat a point in my life where I was focused on other things and video games weren't even a blip on my radar. It wasn't until the Xbox One, PS4 era that I began getting back into video games. My now wife (different girl, lol) Bought me an Xbox One (VCR edition) when we first got married that I played a bunch on and we got a Wii-U together as well that we definitely got our use out of. Fast forward, I've been collecting older games and such since that time and decided "I'm gonna get myself a PS3 since they're so cheap, along with the games. Boy am I glad I did because it's such a great console and the games (so far) are still reasonably priced. With all the attention that generation has been getting lately, I don't doubt prices are gonna start getting nuts real quick and I better hurry up to get the leftover games I want before they're out of reach.
I play at 4k60 on PC and still have my PS3 plugged in for blu-rays.
That was a fun gen.
I feel like the most popular 360 titles still being available to play natively on modern hardware will make this slightly different than when it happened the last few console generations. PS3 and Wii's might still see the same increase since you can't play any of those games on PS5 or Switch
Also, maybe the rise of emulators
22 right here i grew up on the ps2,psp and ps3 which i still own along with my original games but had a limited selection of games because I grew up in Mexico. I always saw other game consoles and games and it was my dream to own them I am collecting n64, ps2, ps3, gamecube and some psp
Im 16 right now and i started collecting 7th gen games since i was very young but i really started about 2 years ago when i resold games to make money to buy more. Now 2 years later i have have about 600 total games and around 300 7th gen games and the prices have been going up for all the games.
Greetings Adam! I have been a subscriber since your 7th Generation retrospective you did way back in the day now. Love the content! I am 39 years old currently and collect everything from Nes up to Switch. I don’t have any plans to start letting things go until my 12 year old hits college and I need money for tuition or books for him. So about another 7 years or so. My Mom passed away at 58 two years ago and my dad is 60 now and finally started doing fun things in his life instead of continually saving and being frugal. After seeing this, I also plan to get with my son when I am 55 and ask him which systems and games he would like to have or for me to keep that are special for him and then I plan to sell off everything else to enjoy some retirement travel and living the second half of my life. If I do make it to a really old age and outlive my wife somehow, I would probably go back and pick up some sentimental games that I could relive in my old age or with the Grandkids if my son has them.
Edit: I know you don’t mess with Handhelds too much, but I would love to see generational retrospectives on Handhelds someday from you. You would have me hooked in big time.
Perhaps:
1. Game and Watch
2. Gameboy, Game Gear, Lynx,
3. Virtual Boy, Game Boy Color, Nomad, Neo Geo Pocket/Color
4. Gba, PSP, DS
5. 3DS and Vita
Idk. You could throw in Gizmondo and Gamecon, and some of those other weird ones in there too but I love hearing you talk about the history of the generations of systems and your experiences with them or first time you saw them etc.
Thanks for sticking around!
Category 4 is definitely my favorite. Loved the GBA and DS. I didn't play PSP but always thought they looked cool.
Nostalgia. Maybe also the the fact that the games are still good and sometimes unavailable elsewhere. Also, some titles are graphically punhching.
It's about time those prices are rising The Wii has been expensive for a while and I'm surprised that Halo a game that's as famous as Smash Brothers isn't super expensive.
because there were an ungodly amount of them made and still out there. Scarcity is the number one factor to price, not how popular it was. It's usually the reverse
I’m 17 and I grew up on Original Xbox and PSP which probably seems older for me but I was very young when I started playing. I got a Wii late 2012 and went from there, none of my friends childhood games were on original Xbox
Hi, Adam! I'm probably just like you. Born 1986, just turned 38. Although I'm buying my first home this year (in Paris, France, it's crazy expensive), I have never been that much into collecting. 2010 is when I started buying old games. I was 24 at the time and wanted to replay the Dreamcast. About 2,000 complete physical games later across all systems from SNES to PS5, I don't feel like ever stopping. I noticed the same trends as you, which allowed me to acquire very collectible games at low/fair prices for the last 15 years.
Adam covers everything better than anyone else. Smart dude.
So I agree with pretty much everything you've said here, but it's also worth noting that the PS3/360/Wii (and to some extent the WiiU) are the final consoles that have libraries that are mostly physical and on the digital side not using x86 architecture (and therefore only selectively backwards compatible). So a lot of those games are locked to those platforms and support is ending imminently. This is likely a cause of inflating prices and causing a rush from panic buying that we're unlikely to see from the plaftforms that follow (outside of delisting and special editions, etc.).
(Also hi, you seem like a good chap - subbed!)
Thanks Adam. Appreciate you.
I remember back during your sixth gen console retrospective, and how you said the games for all four consoles began going up because people that played them are adults wanting to play the games they played as a kid. Can't beleive we're already back at that lol. That said, some of the prices are looney for certain games. Need for Speed Most Wanted on Xbox 360 for 90 dollars?
Demographics never lie!
I recently got it for 30 cib at a local retro store even thinking about the price for it is stupid since it was the most popular and sold nfs game of that generation that game is definitely worth 20-25 90 is waaaaaaay too steep even the previous generation ports of the game are on the 20-30 price range generally pisses me off for a game that sold 16 million world wide
@@doff1395 The more and more I'm in this scene, I learn rarity doesn't matter.
I'm 43 and I fall into a different kind of 2nd wave of 360, ps3 collecting. That was the gen I would play when I was out of college and in my first apartment, and its nice to relive that nostalgia, and also experience games I never played. TL DR your first wave might start when you are in that quarter life crisis period.
The only TH-camr to not change rooms in 20 years. 15 years*
That may not stay like that much longer.
@@AdamKoralikit adds a charm. It makes me remember my first email I got locked out of. First of many
It also doesn’t help that a lot of the main stream gaming nowadays is just straight up garbage so a lot of people are going back to the older generations and hence that’s why they’re getting more expensive. I’m just glad I’m getting back my library a PS3 games before that goes up same with The. Wii
Is it me or it happened faster than expected to PS3 and x360 generation?.
I mean the price cycle, the whole thing you explained. I think it took more years for previous generations to go from "it's cheap because it's old" to "it's expensive because it's retro vintage". PS3 and X360 are "too new" to be at that stage of the cycle.
I was lucky I got lots of stuff from 8 bits up to N64 when you could still get a shoe box full of cartridges for $20.
For your demographics and statistics, I'm 42, single and if I ever get married it will be a deal breaker if she says "you have to get rid of that stuff". I like to keep my stuff, I like phisical media and actually having games, movies and music.
Adam, keep the interesting console discussions coming! Love em! - I love videos of some kind!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am like you Adam. I am a 44 year old Gen Xer that keeps everything back to the 2600. Great lesson. It is fun to watch the prices change. I already have all the 7th generation games I want since they came out. And your right. I remember purchase a ton of NES games in the early 90's dirty cheep that I still have.
I own a PS3 and just recently bought another PS4 with psvr I found at a pawn shop , the ps4 and psvr ran me 240.00 bought 5 psvr games with prices varying between 5 to 8 dollars apiece, I'm 61 years old and have been gaming since pong came out for home use ..so I guess you can say I've been in it since the beginning.....
I can't tell if I picked the perfect or worst time to pickup 7th gen games I haven't gotten around to.
Preach on. Another wise sermon on the economics of Games/Console pricing. 👏👏
Interesting video as usual.Always love your passion and something about how you tell and word things
This is a great video.
I recently sold off a large majority of my collection that I had been collecting since my late teens.
Sold it since I had so much stuff that was just collecting dust and I have a serious relationship that I want to take to another level.
You hit the nail right on the head!!
I'm probably going to get a lot of hate because of what I'm about to say, but there are too may "collectors" that spoil the enjoyment for all those who desire only a bunch of specific games to play. I repeat, play, not putting the games on a shelf to gather dust. And that's why, if you only want 10-20-40 games max, buy re-releases and/or emulate the hell out of them. It would've been great that rent shops still existed, you rent it, play it, and take it back. No need to dump loads of cash and hoard, when somebody else might enjoy them as well. You don't need to be a collector to be a gamer.
Been collecting since 25 and am turning 48 in July and still have games some PS2 games from 2001 timeframe so apparently am outside the norm. Really ramped it up the last 10 years so am glad I was way ahead of the power curve on Gen7 getting expensive. Strange how as kids we were always looking forward and as adults we tend to look back.
>37yo here
what kind of BS is quarter life crisis?
Never had one? Most people freak out for a couple weeks between 22-26 as they shift their life around.
@@AdamKoralik nope, and my social circle is mostly geeks/otakus/wizards, we always play video games, watch anime, read comics, we went to Japan, the whole nerdy culture thing going here, and no one ever expressed anything related to quarter life crisis. Mind you we’re are now close to the 40’s, let’s see if we have that midlife crisis in a few years.
That is a new one to me
44 year-old, here. Started collecting Xbox360 games about 2 years ago. Aside from the fact that I can play older games via emulators, I have very fond memories of the 360. It wasn’t the first console I bought with money from my first adult job, but it was the first one I bought where paying for it didn’t eat up a whole 2 week’s pay. I was about 25 when it came out and I felt like an adult (never mind how having my own place and being married for a year didn’t evoke such feelings) when I paid for this console in cash. 18 years later, I bought a PS5 and Xbox Series X after the hype died down, but my collection didn’t feel complete without adding a 360 and a few key games.
I guess the 360 was my quarter life crisis and my midlife crisis is trying to go back to that era.
The PS4 being at it's peak low price is absolutely true, I recently bought Bloodborne for 50 Reais in Brazil, which is less than 10 USD. The guy selling it to me also in fact just had a kid, his wife was selling his games on facebook market place hahahaha.
These guys sell their games and consoles everytime something new comes out. I kept my ps3, Xbox 360, ps2 ect along with all the games because I knew modern gaming would start to suck eventually. Now that we're here, I have a huge pile of older games to dive into. Physical collections are undefeated...
In my opinion, I think it's because people are starting to realize you don't actually own digital media, so they're trying to buy up as much as they can and I have a lot of friends that are now thinking like that
It's deeper than nostalgia. Seventh gen was rich with good titles, gameplay and narratives. The games will play off the discs without updates needed. Everything is still relatively cheap. people are tapped out on 8th gen and 9th gen is lackluster. I'm going back and playing the old 7th gen library I missed, as are a lot of people regardless of their generation. This is going to be the last true "collectable" console gen. Prices are not going back down on 7th gen. I'm 47, and the only generational component is I was busy as hell in the first phase of my career, marriage etc during the 7th gen timeframe. I missed out on a lot of these great titles. Then there is a great modding community around these older consoles.
I've explained this same cycle to my collector friends before as I was gathering every ps3/360/wii game I could years ago.
It's wild to me to see it come true when I check price on games I got years ago for less than 10 dollars being 40+ now
I am in my 40s. Been a gamer since 1985. Throughout those years, I have traded in games that were rare and missed. I'm on mission to buy back all those games I gave up. I have no doubt I am contributing to this price hike.
I can confirm some Gamecube stuff has, in fact, started to go down in price. A perfect example would be the Hori digital controller. Not too long ago, that thing was well over $200; nearly $300 in some cases. Now, it's around $110. It's still expensive, but not crazy expensive.
thanks for the insights!
I don't expect to ever sell my collection, but eh who knows
Yeah we're at that point where the already rare PS3 and 360 games have become a lot more rare. Collectors already snapped them up, resellers are snapping them up as they appear and driving the prices up too. Making it difficult for the average joe gamer who wants that particular rare game. Those semi common games are becoming scarce now too and those types of games are the ones which really push the prices up.
Congratulations for a very accurate analysis on the subject matter. You are right, some PS3 game prices are sharply increasing; it makes me take care of my copies better. I guess nostalgia and the different needs in stages of life define supply and demand for all games of different console generations, for “the normal people”. The other kind of people are the “freaks” that identify as “real gamers” and look at gaming as something really special, not just a phase in life. I belong to those kinds of people. It’s interesting that you commented that there has not been a full lifetime as a span for modern gaming times. I am the generation at the very beginning of all.
I can say that I have seen the entire history of gaming, since the early 70s as a young child. I am a Gen Jones, 58-year-old, soon to be 59, right in the fine line of being an Elder Gen X or a very young Boomer.
For me all started with pong, and those early games with the earlier consoles of that time, I realized right then that gaming was something I would like all my life. My teen years were spent in the highlight of the arcade era of the late 70s and early 80s, with “Asteroids”, “Defender”, “Tempest”, “Vanguard”, and “Centipede”, and so many more. The early computer PC games, too. Then by the mid-80s, I became an adult and had to dedicate myself to my career full time.
I regretted watching my younger brothers enjoy the consoles of the 90s and not having time myself to play. I wanted to buy a Jaguar to play “Tempest 2000”, and many other titles. Could do it, but no time. Later, I couldn’t pass the possibility to play “Tempest 3000” and bought a Nuon console back in 2002, even if “Tempest 3000” is one of the very few games for it. I still have it. By the time that the PS3 came out, I was in my early 40s, I had advanced in my career enough to have some time to occasionally play, and the games looked great on the PS3. From then on, I haven’t stopped to pay attention of what’s going on in gaming, buying some games, here and there, through the years and decades.
Now I just retired at 58 and I have the PS3, PS4, PS5 consoles and 1,000+ games physical copies, for those 3 consoles. Maybe a few extra hundreds digital games more in my PS account and as an early adopter of STEAM, another 1,500+ games there. I will finally have time to play them. None of my younger brothers play games anymore. I still do, for more than 50 years now, for me it’s not really nostalgia, it’s the just the love of gaming per se as always has been in my case.
It's times like this I am so glad I did my retro collecting done from 2011 to 2022.
I'm 34. Up to now, I've collected a little over 900 games and own all of the major consoles. I would say that each year, I play an average of less than 10 of those games for the first time. I keep trying to get people to try new games with me, but they always gravitate toward Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. lol Something interesting that happened going into my 30s is that many of my friends are no longer as interested in video games. They'd rather do something that allows them to relax their brains like watch a movie or TV. I'll bring games to parties, sometimes, but it's always Mario Kart. No one would play if I brought a SNES or Genesis. It intimidates them.
All of this to say that the thought has crossed my mind that it would make sense to sell some of my games. At the rate I'm going, I'll never manage to play all of them. Some of my disc-based games/consoles have become unreliable, too (I recommend avoiding expensive PS1 games. You've been warned. lol) I'm pretty tired of the daily city grind and would like to own a property in a place that's not so busy. My Saturn collection alone would make a big dent in a down payment.
... on the other hand, knowing that I'll have to pay taxes on them and knowing what a hassle it'll be to ship everything... I'm not sure it's even worth it. Every time I've sold non-duplicate games, I've regretted it.
I can confirm as a 2005 kid turning 19 in less than a month that I have started collecting for 360 games and ps4. This video is crazy true
I'm 43 have a home and a big collection. I'm in a comfortable state where my daughter is almost 18 and moving out and it's me time now. I have a lot of games for 360 and PS3 and need to grab as many of them that interest me as fast as I can while they are affordable. Also working on my PS4, Xbox one and Switch games that interest me. PS5 for me is my last hurrah for game consoles. I emulate the old stuff and PS1 well that ship has sailed away. I emulate them though
I'm sort of an outlier in that for most part (save for some very rare exceptions), I've never really traded/sold anything off. I'm in my mid 40s, and I still own pretty much every console and game that I've ever had going back to early childhood with the Atari 2600. And without listing everything out, I have pretty much every Nintendo console from NES forward and most handhelds, Sega consoles from the Genesis through Dreamcast (including the add-ons), PS1 through PS5, and OG Xbox up to Xbox One. And I got pretty much all of these consoles during their respective generations, and just hung onto everything. From time to time I have gone back to buy a game for an older console, accessory, and fixed/replaced an older console or two that stopped working. But the majority of the games that I have for each console were bought while those systems were on the market in regular retail stores.
For the current consoles, I've had a Switch since it launched. I finally just got a PS5 this past Christmas. To be honest (with regards to the PS5/Xbox Series generation), it has been the longest that I've waited to get a console after a generation started. And to be honest, I would have been find waiting longer, but when I found out that the newer "slim" PS5 consoles require the disc drive to be paired/registered online to even work, I wanted to get the previous/"OG" model while it was still available new.
While I've been wanting to eventually jump in at some point, I just wasn't in a hurry this generation to jump in. I'm getting more and more fed up with more things going digital, micro transactions (and what I would also call MACRO-transactions.... small content like an add-on costume for ridiculous prices), and various other things happening with gaming these days. I'm not even sure if I will bother getting an Xbox Series X at all. It's not be "fanboying" for Sony (my preference between the two companies has gone back and forth over the years for various reasons, typically and reluctantly siding with whichever company isn't being quite as anti-consumer as the other in their practices at a given time... with it kind of being a toss up currently IMO). It's just that with so many games coming out for both the Playstation and Xbox platforms, it's becoming harder and harder to justify even buying both systems each generation. I went with PS5 because there are a couple of exclusives that I want to play, and it's still a bit more user friendly for offline function compared to Xbox, where applicable. I'm not opposed to connecting my systems to the internet, it's just that, as someone who keeps my games and consoles long term, I do worry about the reliance on servers for basic things that did not require online connectivity during previous generations.
So this may be the the first generation where I don't end up buying all of the major, mainstream consoles. And I'm not entirely sure what my future will be in generations going forward given the general direction of things, especially with regards to Playstation and Xbox. I'll most likely get Nintendo's next system (i.e. the "Switch 2" or whatever it ends up being), especially if it continues to offer the major titles on physical media and is backwards compatible. But given how, out of the three major companies, Nintendo seems to be the fastest at shutting down the online stores for its older platforms, I'm not sure how much longer I will bother with them either.
I have plenty of games that I can go back and play. And many I never picked up for older consoles that I could. So it's getting easier and easier for me to say "no" to the (IMO) nonsense direction gaming is going in.
This video is 100% spot on! I remember in 2005 taking a Dreamcast with controllers to a GameStop to get trade in value and they offered me $2...several years later they were going for $100+
It feels as though time is just on fast-forward these days, it's hard to believe how quick it all just sweeps by. We think of 7th gen as like maybe being like 8 years ago? But no it's been like 20. It's pretty much retro, it just doesn't feel like it. We're digging into the 2020s at this point, it just blows my mind. It feels like the fastest decade of my life so far, even with the pandemic restrictions, I barely remember any of that! I think it's catching a lot of us off guard, and we don't realize it's time for this stuff to become the new nostalgic collectible era for those who we probably still imagine as babies, but are probably young adults now.
This might be the greatest take about this I’ve ever heard. Adam spot on my dude.
I think my uncle was one of (if not THE) first senior citizens in the retirement home playing video games. Yes he played mostly SEGA Genesis games but the best way I found for him to play it was on the Xbox 360 through the Sonic's Genesis Collection. He was happy with it until he passed away 3 years ago. Still Gen X will definitely be gaming in the old folks home for sure.
I’m very happy with all my retro consoles being modded. Sold my collection about 2 years ago. Best decision I ever made