She promised to remain a virgin forever
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2023
- Being single can be a state of life in the strict sense when one promises to remain "single" forever. Miss Hausmann asked me to add that consecrated virginity is not ‘being single’ as such, but that there is an actual gift of self to the Divine Bridegroom, an espousal. This distinction is important because it is actually a better reflection theology of our bodies… in that we do have a spousal meaning of our bodies that is fulfilled in the permanent vocations of marriage, priesthood, consecrated life of the various kinds, where we are giving ourselves irrevocably to a spouse (husband/wife, or to God himself) taking the form of Jesus’ own gift of self to his spouse, the Church irrevocably.
St. Thomas defines state of life in the following way:
"'State,' [status] properly speaking, denotes a kind of position, whereby a thing is disposed with a certain immobility in a manner according with its nature… Hence it is again that even in human acts, a matter is said to have stability [statum] in reference to its own disposition in the point of a certain immobility or restfulness. Consequently matters which easily change and are extrinsic to them do not constitute a state among men, for instance that a man be rich or poor, of high or low rank, and so forth."
Exact words of the rite when the woman promises her virginity:
EXAMINATION:
17. After the homily the candidates stand and the bishop questions them in these or similar words: Are you resolved to persevere to the end of you days in the holy state of virginity and in the service of God and his Church? Together, all the candidates answer: I am. Bishop: Are you so resolved to follow Christ in the spirit of the Gospel that your whole life may be a faithful witness to God’s love and a convincing sign of the kingdom of heaven? Candidates: I am. Bishop: Are you resolved to accept solemn consecration as a bride of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God? Candidates: I am. Bishop and all present:
Thanks be to God
Then when they kneel before Bishop they say this:
RENEWAL OF INTENTION:
22. Then, if it seems suitable, the candidates offer themselves to God at the hands of the bishop. This may be done, for example, in the following way: the candidates come one by one before the bishop. Each one kneels, places her joined hands between his hands and says: Father, receive my resolution to follow Christ in a life of perfect chastity which, with God’s help, I here profess before you and God’s holy people
You can find both of those references in the rite here: consecratedvirgins.org/usacv/...
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Thank You for this beautiful testimony! This is so topical: I am currently studying the Theology of the Body audiences, and we are in the section entitled “Continence for the Kingdom of GOD” . . . that special calling to a vocation which makes a SPOUSAL GIFT to GOD . . . a complete gift of self! A renunciation, yet, also an affirmation. So important to remember. . . It’s not a “NO”, but a “YES”!
Beautifully said!
@@BiblicalBookwormRemember though Adam was created with a phallus & Eve with a Mons Venus & God's command was to go forth & multiply.
Super educational, thank you for this!
You're welcome!
Once again a really interesting interview. I very much appreciated the way you let Dawn have the time to give quite detailed answers. You do these interviews so well Elisabeth!
Blessings to you.🙏
Thank you! God bless you too! 🌷
Cool interview , very nice lady , jesus always gets the best women , 👍
And the best men!
Fantastic video and incredibly informative God bless Miss Hausmann and you too Elisabeth. 🙏🙏✝✝
Thank you! God bless you too! 🙏
What a beautiful testimony!
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Withing 20 seconds the video gave me Joy, just so you know. I can see you doing more long form type conversations Elizabeth.
It's beautiful that intimacy brought her to know exactly what she wanted, concentrated virginity.
The fact that Catholics have unique roles for men and women with the theology to live it strengthens the Faith.
Yes, long form converations are a welcome change.
Great videos Elisabeth, you are intelligent, well spoken, and we can see that you put hard work in creating your videos. Please continue doing your good work. God bless you ❤
Thank you so much! God bless you too!
This was very interesting!
I'm glad it was!
Interessantes Video, es ist noch anzumerken, dass bereits Frauen der frühen Kirche diese Lebensform gewählt haben, woraus dann später die Klöster entstanden sind. Der Stand der geweihten Jungfrauen wurde erst durch das zweite Vatikanische Konzil wieder eingeführt.
Danke für die Anmerkung!
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome!
You always intresting topics... Not wanting to deflect from the topic, but what is the history behind the coat of arms of the Empire of Brazil? I saw it first in your video about the Ignatius Exercizes
As far as I know my dad bought while he was spending some time in Brazil
Nice topic 👏
Glad you liked it!
For some odd reason god seems to have an issue with clear and direct communication. Thus forcing people to "sense" and "feel" what he wants. If a parent acted the same way towards his/her child, he/she would hardly be seen as a good parent. Am I wrong sensing a little bit of double standards here?
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I learned a lot from this interview. It does sound like there is a huge commonality with religious sisters. Would it be a huge jump for Miss Hausmann to become a nun which allows some solitude? I don't think so.
Hm I don't know if the jump would be "huge" but there would be a jump because a religious sister also has the vow of poverty and obedience so that's a big difference to consecrated virginity. But you're right there are big similarities to religious sisters
Spotkałem jedną kandydatkę na taki status. Ale jak to si skończy zobaczymy. Póki co znalazła ojca duchownego.
Czytałam, że coraz więcej kobiet w Polsce zostaje dziewicami konsekrowanymi: (Nie wiem, czy mówi pan po niemiecku) www.katholisch.de/artikel/43380-immer-mehr-geweihte-jungfrauen-in-polen-zahl-der-ordensleute-sinkt
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I think we should take out the word "believe" when talking about god , lets put in the word "to know" god.. just a thought 😊
Hm, interesting idea. I think believing in God and knowing him are two different things because the former rather means trust than knowledge. In what context did we use the phrase "believe in God" in this video? I don't remember this
@@BiblicalBookworm when ever I get a thought I just go to your channel and find the first video I see and comment 😂, but , thanks for always having good content , it makes me think about different ideas , edit: fr mike shimitz has been having really good topics lately also
Real faith and real love for god and real catholic values are super attractive 👍 not the big butt, big lip, nasty attitudes that are hidden behind a smile , it is mind blowing what is considered main stream beuity (sorry im dexlexic)😊
Most people wouldn’t know that you’re a consecrated virgin because you’re wearing secular clothing, unless you had the chance to get into a Catholic conversation (which is often rare) and therefore most people would be unaware of your commitment. God calls us into a community, family or religious order, plus you have to be well off to meet your financial needs as an individual. Sounds more like being a semi-quasi hermit in the mist of a secular society.
You are right that this vocation is rather hidden and I would say that it's not necessary for it to be seen: "But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." Matthew 6:6
Can I ask can a rape victim with child be a consecrated virgin?😭
Here I am, survivor and once a victim of yeterdays nightmares.. I was a victim of molestation when I was grd 3
It always makes me wonder who am I to the Lord!
many catekists had told me
If a woman was raped and concived a child, she cannot be a nun or a consecrated virgin...
If its allowed she must raise the child fiirst and wait for many years...
this makes me sad...
But thats okay.... atleast Im an outcast yet still a beleiver of the Lord!
Jesus was the only man and the prince of my heart!
I am very sorry to hear about your experience. I asked Ms. Hausmann (the woman in the video about this) and she asked me not to discuss this publicly. So if you'd like you can contact me privately over: thebiblicalbookworm@gmail.com
Then I can forward you Ms. Hausmann's response and give you her email address.
She assured me of her prayers for you! I will pray for you as well!
@@BiblicalBookworm Thank you
What I wish is that the church May give chance
For rape victims with child,
To be the bride of Christ
Despite of my abusive history, I do believed that God did not desires everything that happened to this world 💝🙏🏻🤍
May God and the church hear my prayer
May Santa Maria Goretti
Hear my prayer for justice
If rape victims are still virgins for Saint Thomas Aquinas.
Those that mean rape victims who became mothers are still virgins?
And if they want to be consecrated virgin they can be?@@BiblicalBookworm
Devoting this portion of your eternal life in service of God and church is admirable and noble.
When God created marriage it was between one man and one woman as a picture of God’s marriage to his people/nation. People were married to other people at the same time God was married to a people/nation.
Jesus is still very much one human man (and God) of flesh and bone with digestive and reproductive organs. As God is still the Father and still the Son in singular human form, he could marry a nation and one single woman at the same time.
Jesus' own definition of marriage is between one man and one woman who are joined through physical intercourse.
Is it God’s ideal marriage of one man with 1,000's of individual women? Is polygamy an ideal form of Godly marriage?
While God was married to Israel, Mary wasn't married to God or the Holy Spirit individually. She was married to a man, Joseph. In order for that marriage to be legal she would have had to have intercourse, otherwise she was not married. Jesus wasn't raised by a single mom.
If you wanted to base your life on Mary's wouldn't you trust God and also marry a man and have kid(s) like her?
Do you want to share your husband with 1,000's of other women like Solomon? Is that God's ideal form of marriage?
A little much there , keywords are better
@@changedlife1904 You're talking to a novelist, so little chance of that happening lol
Are you aware of the fact that Mary remained a virgin?
@@BiblicalBookworm Are you aware of the fact the Bible says she didn't remain a virgin?
"Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus” (Matthew 1:24-25)
“Knew” was a modest way of describing sexual relations in ancient times. For example, Adam knew Eve, and she conceived Cain, and he knew her again, and she bore Seth (Genesis 4:1, 25).
"Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are not His sisters here with us?” So they were offended at Him. (Mark 6:3)
Some suggest these brothers and sisters were cousins or more distant relations. If true, why didn’t the writers use the Greek term for cousins (anepsios)? The Greek word did exist and was used in Scripture (Colossians 4:10). If they were more distant relatives, then why not use a Greek word that meant relatives (suggenes), such as the one describing Mary and Elizabeth’s relational status in Luke 1:36? Why did Matthew and Mark use the words most commonly translated as brothers (adelphos) and sisters (adelphe)?
It would not be a sin for Mary to have sexual relations with her husband Joseph, but it would have been sinful for her to withhold herself from him throughout their marriage (1 Corinthians 7:3-5).
I have never understood Christian sex obsessions. In Buddhism in my country, we certainly have celibacy laws (stricter for monastics than laypeople) but these precepts are for reasons that have zero to do with godly prohibitions or the preservation of “purity” (as if sex were some kind of dirty an unnatural activity). For us, being sexually active can very easily disturb one’s samadhi (concentration) and lead to mental distraction, which will certainly hinder your progress toward higher states of meditation. But there seems to me no practical value for celibacy in your religion whatsoever. In fact, i find your scriptures rather schizophrenic relationship with sex very strange: encouraging you to go forth and multiply, be a mother, have children, but also… don’t have sex, be a perpetual virgin, and condemn the sexual habits of others. It all sounds very shamanistic from my point of view. Interesting interview. Thanks.
Holy spirit is coming to the world to clean it and give every men their wifes. Dont be surprised but i m jesus wife.
That's nice. But we need Catholic women who are willing to marry and have kids. Be fruitful and multiply. That's one we can counter Satan.
You are right, the Church needs mothers as well. However, the US has ~300 consecrated virgins and 300,000,000 inhabitants. There is no reason to worry about multiplying. 🙃
@@BiblicalBookworm we do need to worry. Because in the United States and in most of Europe. The progressives are over running the countries. And in Europe the Muslims are taking over many of the countries.
Probably consecrated virgins can do as much or more to improve the world through their work and prayers
@@BiblicalBookworm Also many Catholic families are only have two kids at the most. That's not really being fruitful.
We need women who will follow their vocation given to them by God. If a woman has a calling to be a consecrated virgin or a nun, and follows it, why would you complain? She followed _her_ vocation, and it _wasn't_ about being a wife to an earthly husband and a biological mother. Don't complain about people pursuing what they're called to. We counter Satan by ourselves becoming holy and following _our_ vocation, each their own.