My Ultimate Category (Multi-Item) & Bulk Sorting + Storage System - Allay Accelerated MIS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- UPDATE (Aug 29, 2023): The tutorial for the full system is now live! • TUTORIAL: Ultimate Cat...
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When I came back to the game, the biggest problem was inventory management! My sorting + storage solution combines several different systems - here are the features:
- 2x intake/sorting speed
- Can take any item type (stackables, nonstackables, full/empty shulker boxes)
- Multi-item/category sorting
- Bulk item sorting + shulker compression
- Chunk-loaded (machine won't unload when you travel out of range/to the nether and fits inside a 3x3 chunk area)
One thing I also want to call out here is how brilliant @MaizumaGames 's original system is - the ability to have 1-wide category assignment of items is just absolutely mindblowing to me, and the solution is so elegant and easy to understand.
I also believe I may have made a novel contribution to multi-item sorting tech (at least, as far as I know, I haven't seen this approach/modification for multi-item sorting up to the release of this video)! I'm calling it Allay Accelerated Multi-Item/Category sorting! It's certainly not the fastest, but it's reasonably effective, and fun! :P
World Download:
Full tutorial (recommended) version (Nov 17, 2023) here: • TUTORIAL: Ultimate Cat...
Ver02 (Nov 26, 2023): www.mediafire.com/file/pbv1rq...
- corrected orientation of systems so they were consistent with the curved rail patterns (current item system rails are correct if you are facing west when you are looking in from the main entrance of the room)
- added guide for curved rails based on north/south/east/west direction of the minecart (straight powered rails are fine everywhere, but are just a bit slower!)
- added note about resetting allays if trying to copy + paste schematic into world
- added a cross section of the full AA 1.0/2.0 MIS + bulk sorting
For anyone having trouble getting the allays in place, here's a mini-guide (the fuller tutorial will explain this in more detail): imgur.com/a/1P7fHMG
IF YOU HAVE ROTATED YOUR SYSTEM COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL SCHEMATIC, REFER TO THIS GUIDE: imgur.com/a/TpS3SAu
Timestamps:
0:00 - spooky title & survival world intro
1:29 - intro to item room (input, basic setup, and chest layout)
4:04 - visual showcase
5:19 - component breakdown
8:15 - explaining allay acceleration
12:15 - small scale speed testing (allay acceleration vs. original system - 360% improvement!)
14:15 - large scale speed testing (over 250% improvement!)
17:16 - allay acceleration V2.0 (over 2x hopper speed category sorting!)
18:12 - world download description and schematic placement guide
NOTE: If you're on a server that uses Paper, you'll need to have the following settings to get the item batching and merging to work:
spigot.yml and set merge-radius: item: 0.5 and entity-activation-range: misc: 0
Enormous thanks to @goldace2837 for the solution with this!
Outsourced Components (check them out!):
Original multi-item sorting system by @MaizumaGames : • The Categorizer: Multi...
Compact Shulker unloader by @Dutfer : • Smaller Super Fast Shu...
2x Hopper Speed item batcher by @rooftopjoe6729 : • Reliable Double-Speed ...
2x Shulker Box Filler by @samosthesage3719 : • Compact 2x Speed Shulk...
@MaizumaGames 's updated multi-item sorter (which resolves the original version's item release issues): • ReCategorizer Multi-It...
SHADERS:
Sildur's Vibrant Shaders v 1.40 High shader pack: sildurs-shaders.github.io/
The default options are pretty crap, so if you're using them/planning on using them and haven't tweaked any settings, I'd start with the following:
Shader Pack Options/Emissive Light/
Minimum Light: 0.030
red: 1.1
green: 0.7
blue: 0.5
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UPDATE (Jul 12, 2023): The mini-tutorial on the Allay Acceleration upgrade is out!
HERE: • Mini-Tutorial: How to ...
This video is a step-by-step guide for upgrading Maizuma's category sorting system with Allay Acceleration - relatively small modifications for roughly a 360% speed boost in your category sorting!
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UPDATE (Jun 17, 2023): Thanks everyone for the comments, feedback, and general interest in my storage system - I was completely blown away! I've also received enough requests - I'll be doing a full tutorial for the system! Please give me a bit of time to pull it together, there are a ton of pieces and the editing will take me a while. I've already started on recording footage for it, though!
But before that, I'll be releasing a mini-tutorial: How to double/triple your MIS sorting speed with Allay Acceleration! (step by step directions on how to upgrade Maizuma's MIS with Allay Acceleration). This will contain most of the vital info for those primarily interested in building that part of the sorting system.
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The tutorial for the full system is now live! th-cam.com/video/Hid_axROLic/w-d-xo.html
will there be a world download for the full base?
also how did you make that door
we need a block by block tutorial, this is amazing!
we really do
U can get litematica
@@marcvogler2724 litematica is for losers
@@marcvogler2724ok tell me how will I sort items and which items to put in which hoppers...what to give to the allays.
Thank you for your great, high quality presentation, thoughtful design, and generous world download. I also would love to see your tutorial, since this was really enjoyable to watch. Welcome back and thank you again!
The allay-enabled fast sorting is a major improvement on a design that was already hella slick. Very cool! 😎
This is amazing. Completely underrated.
Been looking for a new storage system and this looks super fun to put together
That's impressive! I already have original multi-item sorting system and I am very happy with it. However, I wanted to have shulker loaders for the bulky items but my redstone knowledge is not that great so I was putting it away. Also, I love how you incorporated allays!
I will definitely get back to this video next time I am building big storage system!
Please reach out if you'd like to chat when you start! Either here or on my reddit page (same username), I'm always happy to help!
Great design, impressed with the speed gain, keep up the good work.
Nice build. I appreciate these sorts of videos where focus is on what is really needed and not solely on optimization and efficiency for the sake of that alone. A world tour would be great! I liked your calm and well edited presentation btw
Thanks so much for your feedback!! I'll get started on the world tour!
Crazy build, so many MIS storage systems have been made in the past few months and this is pretty unique. Now I don't know which one to build.
Please reach out if you decide to go with this one, I'm happy to assist!
I already love the fact that you used prismarine, one of my favorite blocks ^^
This is incredible - blew my mind
I've been wanting to build an 'ultimate' storage system in my family's world for over a year now, but I was waiting for a design that resonated with us and ticked all of our boxes. And finally, this video appears in my recommended and does both. We really like the L-shape layout, and we absolutely LOVE the hybrid bulk-storage/MIS sorting. This is literally our dream stoage system!!
+1 for a full tutorial 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks so much! I, too came in with really specific requirements (especially with the 1-wide chest setup and 7 block high to align with max reach), which is how this whole thing got cobbled together. I think it's sometimes worth considering customizing the components of your storage system, so please reach out if you're considering some kind of variation on the system, I may be able to help! Tutorials on the way!
BRO YOURE A GOD. This is awesome and thx A LOT for putting the world download, cuz im defenitely gonna do a schematic and build it on my world. Keep up!
You're too kind, thank you! So happy to hear you're building it - full tutorial should drop in a few weeks but please reach out in the meantime if you have any questions!
Very very nice! I like your design. I bet it was also a shock to see how differently the game plays after so many updates :D
Thank you!! Absolutely, it felt like a totally new game and I had to rewire my brain a bit to adjust! Out of everything, I think I was most excited about elytra travel, expanded nether and deep dark biomes, and I like that redstone feels pretty much the same (is it weird that I was more excited about the target block than the observer? xD) - I'm a bit broken up about what they did to iron farms/village mechanics, though!
Wow Thnx for this love it!
Now, the storage system is actually 🔥🔥🔥!!!!
Wow, the allay acceleration is so smart! Finally, they have a use!
This is amazing. My brain hurts. Definitely gonna wait for the full tutorial to build this myself!
On the way, stay tuned!
Patiently waiting for the tutorial. Don't worry take the time you need. I'm building with litematica but there are some things i dont know how to do like getting the allays to fit
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the encouragement and patience!! Tutorial coming out within the next few weeks, but within the next day or two, I'll be releasing a mini-tutorial on how to upgrade Maizuma's category sorter with Allay Acceleration, and it'll contain steps for getting the allays inside the hopper. In the meantime though, I've created a short album on imgur to provide you with the basic steps for the allay setup, in case you'd like to proceed with the build in litematica: imgur.com/a/1P7fHMG please take a look and give me a shout if you have any questions!
@@Toots_Thielemansthis is so helpful thank you so much! I'll wait for the vid until i finish in case i miss something.
Amazing, I’ve been looking everywhere for the best storage I wanted to build for my survival world and finally found this!! I think I’ll be making this in the next couple weeks 😊👍 Tysm
So glad to hear! Check out the upgrade video in case you want to build from those schematics, and please give me a shout if you've got any questions along the way!
@@Toots_ThielemansTysm! Right now I have the 2.1 schematic 😊 I’m subscribed for any of your future updates
Incredible build
Can’t wait for the tutorial, been holding off building my storage for it!
Tutorial's coming out in a week, but please hit me up on discord (same username) if you're looking to start sooner than that! Your patience is appreciated!
@@Toots_Thielemans ahhh you don’t have to go into any extra efforts on my behalf bud! Appreciate that your taking the time to do the tutorial in the first place :)
Great! I need to see a tutorial how to customize these cool things 🤯
You're a genius... U just blew up my brain!!! . I beg you, do a step-by-step tutorial with explaining all the mechanics u used for it🙏🙏🙏
It’s on the way, stay tuned! ❤️
WOW, im just mind blown.
I'd love to see a block for block of this, impressive build and great video!
Coming right up (in... a few weeks once I can assemble all the footage heheh)!
@@Toots_Thielemans yipee!!!!
great help thnx for hopping in the world and find the problem wonderfull storage
Happy to help, glad it was a quick fix! For anyone who's having issues with the build: for any of you who have rotated the system and built it, make sure the rail shortcut system is flipping the right way when it receives power - sometimes the signal will need to reverse, so just add a redstone torch at some point in that circuit and you should be good to go!
absolutely incredible
if anyone was having a problem with the allays like me, i solved by puting and observer on the redstone that activate the note block so it activate it twice, great storage i really like it :D
This is exactly the upgrade I am looking for. Will need to play with the world download. But I am guessing it will be easy enough to also have water stream from my farms feed into this.
Definitely, especially if those farms are sending items to the bulk storage - depending on the speed you’d either route them into the item batcher or if slow enough, you could feed them directly into the bulk item stream!
“I haven’t played in 7 years”
**Proceeds to cook up an amazing storage system**
No way, I used the same allay system when they were added to the game to improve my item sorter. I never followed through on making a tutorial though as LummieThiefs sorter came out and it was slightly better and infinitely expandable. Awesome to see someone else use that same concept!
I was surprised a video on this type of system didn't already exist when I originally came up with it, it certainly does seem like low hanging fruit! But you're right, pretty much everything else is fighting for second place against LummieThief's masterpiece!
This is such a cool design, works perfectly for my needs. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this and allowing us to get the schematics so easily. I was wondering if removing the on/off mechanism for the chunk loader and putting a chunk loader underneath that is always on is a bad idea or will break anything?
Thanks so much, I’m glad it suits your needs! Full tutorial in a few weeks if anything gives you trouble when you build! No problem at all to move the chunk loader below the system, as long as it stays within the same chunk as the original one. Your username + profile pic are cracking me up btw 😂
Love it. Minor comments-
you could make the input a little more compact and seamless with one of the Storage Tech discords interfaces-just simplifies the loading process
Would be nice (and super easy) to add a shulker display under the bulk
Oof, of course there's a Storage Tech discord!! I've got some catching up to do there, surely - I'm pretty new to this world!
Thanks so much for your suggestions!!
- awesome suggestion with the input, regrettably it's the part I put the least time into outsourcing the design for
- I was always a bit wary of shulker displays due to the space that most of them seemed to take, but I'd be happy to add a low-profile one! Do you have any particular authors or builds I should investigate? Any recommendations would be appreciated!
@@Toots_Thielemans disclaimer - I have way less practical knowledge than you, just an understanding of where the tech landscape is atm.
The Storage Tech discord (which I just realized I should NOT try to abbreviate 😂) has a whole archive of components including shulker displays, so I'd start there. You could also swap the loader+display setup for a Hybrid bulk, which is (objectively) way cooler. I think MoonyInspired has some designs for that.
Also, the categorizer isn't currently the best mis available- I think most people would say it's rapscallion's Misv5. The problem is that most of those storagetek guys talk so far over my head that nothing makes sense 😅
There's definitely nothing wrong with your system, though. The allay thing is legitimately very cool and nothing I've seen before.
wtf the spam filter caught this and I’m a noob with the creator platform 😅 thanks for getting back to me, I’ll chase these down before I roll out the tutorial!
@Toots_Thielemans If you could do a setp by step tutorial that would be amazing as I do love the way you had done it
This is so cool! Will you ever make a block by block tutorial?
I've been grinding the past couple of weeks, the full tutorial will be ready in a few days!
@@Toots_Thielemans niceeee!!
bros base is gorgeous
Thanks so much!! I've been putting in a lot more effort into aesthetic building lately, and I'm currently working on a base tour, please stay tuned for that!
This is a genius Idea
Thanks so much!! Speaking of genius, your system is BEAUTIFUL! There are SO many brilliant solutions working together for an incredibly robust, comprehensive storage/sorting solution. I was actually poking around your world save a few months ago, and picked up so many useful techniques/tricks. It's also gorgeous (especially the way you piped items back through the middle through the glass), which I feel like not many solutions take into consideration. I'm looking forward to learning more from your upcoming videos!
@@Toots_Thielemans Actually I didn't play since a long time but your video and the announcements of 1.21 motivated me to dig deeper in this concept. I think there is still a lot of improvement potential.
holy shit
im going to build this in my survival world now :()
Please reach out with any questions!
This is very interesting. Just wanna ask, how does this system compares to J-MIS or Moony-Mis though?
My system's intake speed is throttled to 2x hopper speed - this is because of the way the bulk storage works, but technically, the MIS component operates at >3x hopper speed. As far as I know, the Mooney-Mis system operates at just under 1x hopper speed, so this is more than twice as fast. That said, there are plenty of faster systems than mine out there, like Lummie Thief's (th-cam.com/video/tRj52w8dptc/w-d-xo.html). A lot of the effective speeds of these systems depend upon the distribution of the item input and number of item types, though!
Hey man, great system that you're showing up here, thanks for that. I first tried to buid it myself and I came across a little problem, the multi-item sorter was simply sucking up all my filters and the sorter blocks once i put Shulker/items in the input. I've later noticed, there was iron block in the dropper all around the rails and i just forgot them... I cannot tell exactly why, because after some time spent on it I just paste the schematic hey :p
Ahhh! yeah that makes sense, without those iron blocks in the dropper latches, everything is fully unlocked and I'm sure it just wrecks everything with those top hoppers below the rails! I think it's an understandable issue though, I've noticed when pasting schematics onto servers that none of the contents of containers are brought into the build (I think it happens when you don't have litematica on the server, or potentially NBT data not carrying over), so the iron blocks would be missing upon pasting the schematic! Sounds like you have it working now which is great to hear! Give me a shout if it's giving you any troubles!
@@Toots_Thielemans Update : So I've pasted the schematic on single player mode, everything was working fine till I edit all the chests to custom sorters as i wanted but I wasn't aware of specifications about x16 stcackable items so it wasn't working. I then corrected that by taking out 3 filter items per x16Items and replaced water bottles by x64 filter sticks instead, just to check.
Now when the minecart hopper goes around, between 1 to 4 filter sticks get sucked in and the blocks I'm trying to sort out get stuck in the hopper beside comparator that's above the sorting chest.
Iron blocks are in the droppers this time ^^
Post Update : Everything's alright !!! When i tried to find out what was the problem I took all the wooden shovel out the hoppers/barrel in the minecart area. I admit i just try to build it like this, without really understnding what going on, stupid me, that's how we get better haha.
Thanks again for that system, brillant man, and for being actively helping anyone having trouble i've noticed how much you're present in the comment section.
Appreciate all the work, hope you'll share more of you're minecraft creation in future ;)
@@sarsedasek8824 Excellent solve! I'm so happy to hear you've gotten it working!!! I couldn't agree more about how fixing broken stuff is a great way to level up your redstone knowledge. And boy can this system break! 😂Please reach out if you have any more issues, the tutorial's coming out soon but I'm always happy to work through stuff, more than anything I want everyone to have a system that allows them to dump their stuff off and focus on the rest of the game!
just started building this and I'm baffled how you got the hopper minecarts in between the white glass block and the iron bars!! do you share your secrets?
Hey there! I'm racing to finish my tutorial (I'm about a week away from editing it all), but fortunately this is a design from -Dutfer-, who already has a great tutorial on making that shulker unloader (which I also use part of for the item intake) - here's the part relating to your question (link to -Dutfer-'s tutorial with the appropriate timestamp): th-cam.com/video/N9BaftOY1vE/w-d-xo.html - please reach out if you have any other questions!
Awesome!! The buk storage only works loading full shulkers and storing them, right? or it can storage any item stack set?
Thank you! Hmm by item stack set do you mean category of multiple items? With this system, you can set any single stackable item in the bulk storage filter, and it will load that item into shulker boxes for you. I hope I answered your question, please let me know if I’ve misunderstood!
This is hype, gonna be 2025 before I can make something like this, but I'm sure as hell gonna try
This system is just a network of many very simple connected ideas - none of it is too complex on its own! I'll be making a tutorial video in a while, but in the meantime, please reach out if you're trying to build it before that and I'd be happy to give any guidance where needed!
Do you know how does it work on servers? Im looking for storage that doesnt break with some lag issues that some servers has some times. The storage looks great thanks for the video i hope i can do this one one my base :)
Thank you!! I built the system originally on a tiny server (2GB of RAM) that was pretty laggy, and I haven't had any issues! As long as it's vanilla and there aren't any special rules about item grouping, hopper speeds, or hopper minecart speeds, you should be good!
I love this, it's very clever and works great -- however, if you plan on building it on a server check to see if mobGriefing is enabled. If that rule is not enabled then this will not work - allays do not pick up items if mobGriefing is false
I haven’t played with mobGriefing on false since 1.8, I had no idea!! Great point - pinning this!
So I have made this full thing on a SMP server using papermc - some things to keep in mind.
Paper defaults to 2.5x the radius of vanilla for grouping item entities, so the item batcher doesnt really function - I tried adjusting the amount of blocks in teh hoppers to drop 11 blocks instead of 22 - worked in single player but not multiplayer, even took a full schematic of the one i built and it works fine so idk whats up with that. I used the same 2x shulkerbox loader shown here, but I flipped it so I could put on a different item filter (one that allows me to get 62 of an item and wont overflow into other filters - but it uses 2 stacked cursed books, and paper also fixes that bug so I had to ask server admin if they could change that in config)
I would suggest setting up a fail safe/auto off if the allays stop picking up shovels, which mine did - I took a comparator signal off of the first barrel of shovels, if it becomes empty then it will set off an audible alarm and stop the minecart hopper underneath the input chest, a messy solution but a quick one
If the allays stop grabbing shovels then I found undloading the chunk then coming back usually worked, but they will also sometimes throw a shovel into the item stream so there is a slow but continuous bleed of shovels into the system, and losing all the shovels is catastrophic for the sorter.
I added on the compressor segment on the end of the system (stolen shamelessly from the ReCategorizer by Maizuma) to be able to box load unstackables at will.
Overall works great, I strongly suggest putting in a failsafe as the shovel problem is significant.
@@SAPuddles - appreciate you! I'll be releasing this tutorial tomorrow (if all goes smoothly with the render) - I've just recorded a last-minute design for a failsafe to turn the system off when blocker items run low (it basically pulses the dropper which keeps the RS-latch piston extended, so it will cut off all future cycles until the user goes up manually and fixes it) and will add it into the video before pushing it out! :D
@@Toots_Thielemans awesome I bet it's better than my solution so I'll probably just snag that too :) look forward to see the tutorial.
This might be a dumb question. But could you get rid of the Allay’s by using shulker boxes as non stacking fillers. Then just dump them into shulker chest at the end of the loop?
I definitely considered it. The problem with that is that we’d then have to pass all of the items through a filter, which would constrain the speed of that release process. The main advantage of this approach is that we avoid any filtering or hopper processing since we’re able to separate all of it as entities. Lmk if it doesn’t make sense!
this is amazing but i'd just like to ask, how laggy is it server-wise?
I’m on a pretty tiny 2gb server with my friend and I’d say the impact on the server is pretty minimal (other players never report lag while it’s running). I’d say on a server that isn’t already resource constrained (and even maybe some that are), I’d expect this system to have a minimal/unnoticeable lag footprint.
Which shaders are used? and This system is amazing , I will make this in my server
Thank you!! That's awesome to hear, please reach out if you have any questions before I publish a tutorial (should be a few weeks away still).
For shaders, I use Sildur's Vibrant Shaders v 1.40 High shader pack: sildurs-shaders.github.io/
The default options are pretty crap, so if you're using them/planning on using them and haven't tweaked any settings, I'd start with the following:
Shader Pack Options > Emissive Light >
Minimum Light: 0.030
red: 1.1
green: 0.7
blue: 0.5
Enjoy! :)
How much it left for a full build tutorial, i really want to make this one, but I don't know that much about this huge mechanism
I have a mini-tutorial on just the category sorting component coming out within the next few days, but the tutorial on the full system is still probably a couple weeks out. Appreciate your patience as I work on this, please reach out if you'd like any assistance/guidance before the full tutorial comes out - I'm always happy to help!
@@Toots_Thielemans ty for the info mate
It’s a great system but in my opinion there is one problem. If you don’t have enough to fill a whole skulker box it won’t get dropped into the chest. So you have to put items into the system until a whole shucker box is filed and just than you are able to get to the items. But besides this it’s really great.
That’s a totally fair point. I’ve been considering a resolution for it but haven’t found anything low-profile enough to consider adding. I think this also might speak to the system being designed for my specific playstyle (which usually leads to an inventory with a relatively small count of many different category items and a huge count of a relatively small number bulk items due to farms feeding directly into the system). It’s definitely not perfect for everyone and that’s worth calling more attention to. The one thing I’ll say though is that for items I didn’t start with much of, I put those into the upper category chests, and as it looked like I was starting to accumulate too much (maybe 1-2 shulker’s worth), I’d move them down into the bulk section and remove them from the category. Not an ideal way to handle the issue, but it makes the system a bit more usable!
I have a question:which shader are you playing on?
I'm using Sildur's Vibrant Shaders v 1.40 High shader pack: sildurs-shaders.github.io/
For Sildur's the default options are pretty crap, so if you're using them/planning on using them and haven't tweaked any settings, I'd start with the following:
Shader Pack Options > Emissive Light >
Minimum Light: 0.030
red: 1.1
green: 0.7
blue: 0.5
Hope this helps!
hey man, my friend and i are currently building this on survival, but we have a problem, it seems that the minecarts with hoppers are desicronized and we think it can be because of the rails, bc the orientation of them is west and north, so it may be something with the timing, this makes the allays to not drop the shovels in time and they dont get the new ones in coming (or thats what we think), also now for some eason when we put an item that is not filtered, instead of going to the overflow, the minecart's cycle just stops, any help will be much apreciated, thanks
Hey there! Take a look at the world download if you're rotating the direction of the system, it has guides on how to do curved rails to speed things up depending on the direction the minecart is headed (N/S/E/W), but you could use straight rails while you debug this, it shouldn't play a factor. If the allays aren't picking up the items, make sure 1) there's space for the nonstackable blocker items in the hoppers the allays are sitting in (it should be enough to empty just that top hopper they're all in, but you could leave more space to be safe, and since you're doing this in survival, I assume the allays weren't copy + pasted (this sometimes breaks them), but the other thing i'd check is 2) if you have more than 5 allays. I noticed that when I had too many (7+), they would start tossing the item back and forth, which completely threw off their item cycle pickup and broke the system. Is it possibly either of those?
@@Toots_Thielemans Hey toots! We managed to solve the problem, it happened because of the orientation of the whole thing. In the rail of the corner, which change orientation in order to prevent the minecart of going all the way through the other chests unnecessarily, when activated, it should point to the shortcut, but because of the orientation, it was inverted, so when activated it went through the long way. To fix this we just add a block with a redstone torch to invert the redstone signal. Idk if you already knew this but i hope it can help you with the tutorial or something. There are some photos if i didn't explain it well (english is not my native lenguage):
(sorry youtube didn't let me send you a link :c)
Thank you for your time, have a great day :)
@@xavierisg9133 - AHHHH, and if you're doing the 2.0 version, triggering the next cycle with the shortcut signal but not getting the shortcut rail would be disastrous! In fact, I imagine what was happening was the 2nd minecart that was triggered by the shortcut signal was re-locking the categories as it went under the filter chests, and since the 1st minecart had been sent on the long route, all categories had been re-locked by the time we released the items onto the ice path! Definitely will call that out in the tutorial (mini-tutorial on the allay section is nearly done, not that you need it at this point 😝)! Great detective work, thanks for the follow-up, glad you got things working, please give me a shout and let me know how you like the system or if you have any suggestions after you spend some time using it!
what does the nether side of the chunk loader look like?
I'm also struggling a bit. The multi sorter on west aka the back wall is causing me problems. The Item from the sorting chest gets taken out but when the hopper minecart, but when it goes back over it. It isn't putting the item back in and unlocking the hoppers. If i run it with an item from the right side or north it works great the item gets taken out then put back in no problem. Ive recopyed the world download multiple times and looked at every block. I just cant figure out what i did wrong.
Hey there! So for the chunk loader, it's just soulfire/regular fire right on the ground level of the nether portal (you want the fire to break the minecart when it gets sent through, which will turn it into a dropped entity and pass it through the portal, activating it again before it gets sucked into the hopper minecart and pumped back through the system again. Here's a straightforward tutorial: th-cam.com/video/ZGoPerYa8aw/w-d-xo.html but really, you can use any chunk loader you like!
The issue described sounds most like a problem with the category filter chests. Something that sometimes happens is that if there are too many sticks loaded into it (the blocker sticks named "s1"), removing a single category filter item won't drop the signal by 1 and unlock the hopper above it. You can check to see if this is the problem by going down the line of your category filter chests on that side. Verify that when you remove a category filter item, the torch above the category (running out of the target block) should turn on, and when you replace the item it should turn off again.
I'll have more guidance on this when I release a tutorial, but in the meantime if you still have questions, I'd recommend Maizuma's original video which provides a great reference for the proper category filter chest setup: th-cam.com/video/2pEZbF2pWqY/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps!
Gonna build it in my single player world
Most excellent! Please reach out if you have any issues with the build!
@@Toots_Thielemans sure
03:08 why are there 2 command blocks in the chest?
I’ve messed with command blocks a bit to help out with some quality of life upgrades in our server (stuff like auto crafting honey bottles into honey blocks and returning the bottles, auto tp-ing slime into the void for newer players who unknowingly built their bases in slime chunks)
Could you tell me how to properly copy this storage to a world? Structure blocks are to small and worldedit doesn't copy entities (for me atleast). Also both methods don't copy the rails correctly.
Thanks for pointing out one of the more problematic oversights with the world save! I've updated the world save with a few guides that will hopefully assist you with this for future attempts:
- the systems have all been rotated towards West to be consistent with the curved rail patterns we see there
- if you're looking to rotate the system, the starting area of the world save has some basic guides for the alternative curved rail patterns you'd need based on which direction the hopper minecart is moving - I'll be slowly gathering together a tutorial for this in the coming weeks, where I'll discuss this stuff more thoroughly, but hopefully this is enough to provide some temporary assistance in the meantime!
- yeah entities seem to get messed up when copying to different worlds (especially online worlds where the servers don't have litematica installed), my guess would be that NBT data is somehow getting lost or not stored in the schematic + loading step
- to assist with this, i've added a full cross section of the MIS + bulk storage so you can see how the hopper minecarts should look, and have added a special note about how allays sometimes need to be reset if you're copying and pasting from a schematic across worlds.
Hope this helps! :)
@@Toots_Thielemans Hey I managed to move the 2.0 allay system to a different world and setup the minecarts + allay. But I still have one problem. The signals are correct where the item should go. So it detects the item correctly, but in the water stream (catogorizer-system/upper chests) one chest-system is pulling in all the items. In detail the birch tree chest is pulling in every item even tho the signal was correctly detected for books (for example). So the books never reach their dedicated chest. Do you have a troubleshoot or do you know the cause?
If I’m understanding you right, one section is always unlocked, so items always get sucked in? If that’s the case, it seems like something is keeping power from going into that activator rail between the two hopper minecarts. Id make sure first off that your RS-latch droppers for that slice contain 1 item, and that the bottom signal from the detector rail (which resets the top and locks everything) is powering all of the lower droppers properly. From there, make sure the block with the activator rail is solid, and if none of that helps, maybe send me a SS or short clip of the problem?
@@Toots_Thielemans Hey, so I checked and all of the dropper have one item in. If the minecart runs the lower track until the detector rail the lower part gets activated and they drop the items to the upper dropper. If the item runs the upper track and the item belongs to that chest the dropper activates again and drops the item back to the lower one so the power gets removed. It looks like everything is working as intended, but idk... maybe I'm still missing something, because it works fine on your map. Here's the clip: th-cam.com/video/3jxH9Vldfd8/w-d-xo.html
Hey! So sorry for the delay on this, I'm in the process of moving and haven't had access to my PC! Thanks so much for going through all the trouble to show me this stuff in survival - it looked like a royal pain to have to jump around the top and bottom sides of things! I've replied with a timestamp on your video with a more detailed comment, but the short story is that from what I'm seeing, everything SHOULD be working perfectly, I'd just consider resetting the hopper minecarts (and as a last resort rails) in that birch section. Please let me know if the problem persists!
8:12 thats it? o_o I can barely understand what are you doing. This is crazy, an amazing job, but seems really complicated to replicate
I’d like ti see a totorial for the 1.0 version
Tutorials on the way!
What is your resource pack you use?
I use the redstone tweaks resource pack: www.9minecraft.net/redstone-tweaks-resource-pack/
and Sildur's Vibrant Shaders v 1.40 High shader pack: sildurs-shaders.github.io/
For Sildur's the default options are pretty crap, so if you're using them/planning on using them and haven't tweaked any settings, I'd start with the following:
Shader Pack Options > Emissive Light >
Minimum Light: 0.030
red: 1.1
green: 0.7
blue: 0.5
@@Toots_Thielemans 1st link work, second one didn't?
It takes you to the Sildurs page though, right? It's a bit of an involved process to install them, so I figured you'd want the page. You ought to be able to navigate to the download tab on the left side and pick the specific version of the shader pack that works best for you. :)
i did build your wonderfull system i have 1 problem what is making crazy 1 of the minecarts got dispensed early since somehow the clock goes of double what then locks the dropper to let treu the carts who got back from there rounds i cant find an solution for it
can you help what i do wrong
the water bgucket is correctly placed in the dropper
So sorry to hear it's giving you trouble (on a side-note: my full tutorial video will be releasing within a week in case that's of interest to you!), so basically 2 minecarts are firing when there should only be 1? Did you build the 2.0 version (with the early triggers for the next minecart cycle) or the original 1.0 version? If you could record a video, take a screenshot of the area, or even ideally share a world save, I'd be happy to dive in and help you out! (also, if it's on a server, happy to hop on and take a look)
I took some time to think about what you said, and by the sound of it, it seems like you're getting 2 quick pulses before the first minecart can even get to the detector rail. The system locks itself with that detector rail, but if you get a quick on-off-on pattern before it hits that detector rail, it can happen. That suggests the issue might be your item intake. Is all of the batching stuff setup, as well as the hopper minecart stacking that goes into the main input chest (by main input chest, I mean the one the hopper minecart takes items from at the start of the sorting cycle)? It should allow for gaps so this doesn't happen, but I'm positive there's a workaround if that's the issue. Don't worry, we'll fix it! :D
@@Toots_Thielemans the last sounds like the issue yes if you want you can hop on on the server and have a look its probly something small i did wrong but i cant figure it out.
else i can offcourse wait for te vid to see if i can still find the mistake
@@Toots_Thielemans thnx for the quick response
@@niksertt010 not sure if you use discord, but my username is Toots_Thielemans there, if you can send me the server details through that I’ll hop on and take a look!
Is this System working in Bedrock (PS4/5) too?
Unfortunately, not that I'm aware of. I'm not very experienced with Bedrock so I could be wrong, but from what I've seen there might be too many issues with hopper minecarts and entities for this to run smoothly :(
Im currently building this in survival and got stuck, because i cant figure out how to place the allays. Help would be appreciated.
Oh excellent!! A tutorial is on the way, apologies for the delay (I've just made a big move and am still unpacking my setup, but it'll be coming soon!). In the meantime, I put together a short guide on how I've managed to do it. It seems they've made it much harder to force allays into spaces (forcing slabs over allays tends to just make them clip through the slab and fly out of the hopper at will). I haven't really seen a "go-to" guide for this, but the trick I've found is to get one single allay into a hopper, push a slab over it, then just duplicate it as needed (should only need 3 waves of duping to get 5-6 with a 2.5 min cooldown). In lieu of the forthcoming video tutorial, I've put together a few screenshots with comments for my method of doing it. Here's the album: imgur.com/a/1P7fHMG Please reach out if it's still giving you trouble, and good luck!!
@@Toots_Thielemans Thanks for the help!!
@@Toots_Thielemans I have built the sorting system, but there is a problem. When i put items into the system the sorters dont pick up everything and the items end up in the next sorters. If you know how to fix this let me know!
@@antonboiii318 Yeah there's a lot that can go wrong here - could you give me an example with specific items and specific sections (which items, where you intend for them to go, and where they end up actually going), I'd be happy to help you troubleshoot it!
@DrOctagonMD I only have put a couple of the shulker sorter items in and when i put a lot of items into the system some of it goes to the first sorter that doesnt have any items
can this work in bedrock too?
Sadly, I think there are too many consistency issues with bedrock redstone, but one day I hope!!
@@Toots_Thielemans very sad, is their any slowet build but still fast or maybe just some feature missing so i can build it :D
How’s you get barriers at 3:07
And command blocks
I'll occasionally try blocks out in creative mode (mostly out of curiosity), but I'll usually avoid anything that makes the game too easy or revert any changes that aren't achievable in survival, though. I didn't really find any immediately interesting uses for barriers in my world, but I have definitely enjoyed implementing modless autocrafting with pretty simple command block setups to cut out some of the more tedious work (I use command blocks to compress stuff like iron ingots into blocks and dried kelp into blocks from farms). I've got a few tutorials in the queue for my next vids, but once those are done I plan to make a video about how I use some of that stuff for anyone interested! :)
@@Toots_Thielemans interesting stuff! I’d highly recommend using data packs instead, as they’re pretty much command blocks without the block and apply to the whole world. They’re not too hard to set up and if you know how to use commands, then making one is pretty simple. They could be used to do the various custom crafting things you were talking about
Excellent, thanks for the tip!! Is there a good place to learn about that stuff?
@@Toots_Thielemans much of what I know came from TH-cam tutorials, especially Legitimoose and Cloud Wolf. Here’s a link to legitimoose’s playlist on data pack creation th-cam.com/play/PLpjtAMQmETlSOZzZbQOmoU87js78dZGbO.html
Can you make tutorial
why do so many items go into over flow
Hmm, there shouldn't be THAT much overflow. The real problem is if assigned items go into the overflow, but even still, that shouldn't be happening in general.
@@Toots_Thielemans assigned items are going into overflow...
Can I build this on bedrock?
Unfortunately this is for Java only :(
@@Toots_Thielemans rip
@@user-nr8bv9es8i it DOES look like some bedrock multi-item sorting exists though from what I can tell: th-cam.com/video/f7kejWU4Rec/w-d-xo.html - on a quick look it seems that this uses category filtering with a minecart in a way that's extremely similar to Maizuma's design (which is what mine uses) - so this might be a good starting point, then you could see what's possible to build next to/alongside this system in terms of bulk storage. That would be pretty close to this system!
@@Toots_Thielemans ty
@@Toots_Thielemans I will check it out
Now we need one for bedrock edition. There's a challenge😂
I think I saw some minecart-based sorting system for Bedrock the other day, but it seemed like there were a lot of cross-chunk and minecart entity consistency issues. Are those the main problems?
@@Toots_ThielemansIt's not often that see a creator reply to one of your comments lol. I heard of entity unloading issues but I've never personally encountered them. I'm looking for a storage system that has the same, or as close as possible to the UI, as the one in this video. I've been looking around, but haven't found anything yet. I'm not what you would call a redstone engineer but I might have a go at designing one myself. If you find anything, I would appreciate it if you sent links. Or, if you feel up to it, it might be a neat challenge for yourself lol.
I invite you both to my realm
th-cam.com/video/iimA434pbDk/w-d-xo.html
Now do a block by block tutorial ;)
Provided there's sufficient demand, sure!
Hi my Man, awesome storage system you put together here. I would like to build it before the tutorial comes out and have some questions functionwise. Do you mind sharing your discord tag so i can add you ? Conversation on youtube is not too great :)
toots_thielemans on discord - reach out whenever!