Viral $4,600 Dinner Bill Fight Stirs Fiery Debate
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- Restaurant etiquette about splitting checks among groups is stirring up major debates on social media. Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola discusses on The Young Turks. shoptyt.com/collections/justi...
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"A video that appeared to show a group of diners arguing about splitting the check for an expensive meal blew up on TikTok and prompted a massive online debate - but some users say the drama may have been fabricated for views.
On Monday, a TikToker who goes by Viccgotti posted a video of diners arguing whether they should split the cost of a birthday meal."
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If I eat $50 of food and drink.. I am absolutely not paying $550.00 no damn way!….
Absolutely 💯
A 4600 bill should absolutely be discussed BEFORE the meal.
I agree. Who goes to a restaurant that’s clearly an upscale restaurant with no discussion of the bill prior? That’s just a recipe for disaster. Everybody should just pay for what they ordered. Period. I don’t care if people or dating or whatever, that should’ve been discussed beforehand, not once the bill arrives. What if one person orders lobster and the other a salad? They should split it equally? Nah, that’s unfair, unequal, and inequitable.
Did she say it came out to be $600/person? 🤜😳🤛
The only time people like this know how discuss numbers that big is tax return time
Before I leave my house! lol
I'm going to guess the $4600 includes liquor..the liquor orders should be agreed on ahead of time and paid on separate bill..two $100 bottles of champagne 🍾 and the guest share the costs and happy birthday 🎂
I feel bad for the the other customers having to listen to that BS.
Unless someone specifically told you they will pay for you, you are responsible for your bill.
I’d still bring my own money. lol I don’t have time for the drama
First thing: That's not a"split bill" situation. That's a "chip-in" situation. I'll pay for my portion.
Second thing: Don't you DARE order lobster & caviar and ask me to split the bill an equal way when all I wanted was a burger...
Third thing: Don't invite my ass _anywhere_ again. Oh Hell no...
Fourth thing: don't show up to a dinner with a bunch of people you're not on the same page with.
You are too funny! Thanks for the laugh!
Like I said, there are cheap people out there.
@@markmurphy558 , It’s not cheap to refuse to be taken advantage of. If I ate $50 worth of food I sure as hell am not paying $600 for it.
Sounds like my wife's side of the family tight asses and no class thieves bringing ghetto into a nice restaurant
*Orders $30 worth of food* * Gets told they owe $350 because they're splitting the bill* NOPE
You are a broke boy
if your on welfare and food is usually free because of skin color when you go out for nice dinner and find out you have to pay with USD it will be a shocker 🥲
@@bobbysmith270 black people live off welfare…jamesp3254 is black and on welfare. He doesn’t know the decency of dining out.
If you are on welfare and vote Dem thinking u can get more handouts u should not be eating a fancy meal ever
@@bobbysmith270 not being American….is this true? Are most on welfare?
100% the real people who got screwed in this was the wait staff
Eveyone pay for their own meal.... Problem solved!
That's the way we do it, everyone understands beforehand so no stress, no agro.
Note to self: Never agree to split a group dinner at an expensive restaurant, particularly with an expensive menu.
...some people can run up a mortgage in McDonalds.
Better note to self: don't have classless "friends" who demand this of you then call you broke for not wanting spend $600 on food that wasn't even for the bday person, but included a group of people trying to live above their means at others expense...
The real question is, What the hell is wrong with these people? I watched the video, and the restaurant was pretty busy, and there were a whole bunch of other people there eating as well, and these people were screaming and shouting and dropping the f-bombs in the middle of the restaurant. It's like these people have absolutely zero class and decorum, and they're acting like wild animals in the middle of the restaurant. What the hell is wrong with these people? The real question that I want to know is who raised these people? 😲😲😲
Is there such thing as an expensive restaurant with a cheap menu...?
@Vasilia4 the ones with $1000 and up bottles should answer that.
Easy resolution....pay for what you ordered. The girl who says split the bill must have racked it up😂
Everyone in the table, Pitch in for the birthday girl plate and everyone else pay for your own plate
I'm still not sure about splitting the birthday girl's check if she's ordering bottles.
Everything about that is disgusting. The insanely expensive restaurant with people who don't have that kind of money, the yelling in a restaurant where other people are trying to enjoy a meal, the ripping off of the people who didn't drink the Champaign. The likely stiffing of the waitstaff on the tip. They should have gone to Popeyes.
I'll bet you the woman in pink who said " we split the bill, period" had the least money and ordered the most expensive things.
Yup! That’s usually the case!
She had the steak and was happy splitting the bill. She was mot counting on the pushback
Everybody wanna party like they got a shitload of cash until the bill comes due, typical LMAO
It's simple, you ordered something, you pay for it.
People with champagne taste but ripple money. Life lesson: NEVER agree to split a dinner bill with black folks.
If I ordered heaps of drinks and an expensive meal, I would feel uncomfortable having other people have to pay towards it
Me too! I would be too embarrassed to even think about getting others to pay my bill
I taught my daughter that when someone else is paying, be cognizant of what u order. Nothing expensive or excessive
The only people that are objecting to paying for what they've ordered are the people who had ordered too much.
I hate that whole split the bill nonsense. Pay what you ordered very simple.
Pay for what you ordered plus a portion of the birthday girls meal, yes. There is usually a huge difference between the bills run up by drinkers and non-drinkers.
Yes. Then everyone chip in for the Bday girl. As long as she wasn't the one buying bottles
Very simple ....Ask for a separate bills when going out with a gang of narcissists.
$4600 for a Bday dinner?!?!?
For $4600 they could have rented an Air - B&B for a weekend and had the party AND the weekend catered, TF?!?!
I could have taken a nice vacation to Amsterdam to visit the local 🌼 🔥 🚬 shops.
"It is my birthday. Why the f would I have to pay for something on my birthday." That gotta be the most entitled statement I have ever heard.
yup!
U do know her ancestors were slaves, right?
@@criminalfactorymachine3961so?
At the office where I worked, on your Birthday, YOU pay the bill...At the office, YOU bring the cake for office staff..I never understood that!!
You're adults. Pay for what you ordered. 🙄
Friends don't use friends like this.
I was a server for over ten years…. When I had big parties like this. I bring up the bill BEFORE I take ANY ORDERS. I say I need everyone to have a clear understanding of who’s paying, who needs separate checks, and who is on the same check. I announce that I DO NOT split bills after the meal, nor to I divide checks. If it’s not stated beforehand, it MUST be paid by one credit card (no cash accepted at big parties -my rule). All my managers LOVED this and made it the standard at literally every restaurant I worked at. (I worked at high end sushi bars in an expensive tourist area). I NEVERRRR HAD ANY PROBLEMS 😂😂😂😂
Birthday person gets their bill split among the friends. Everyone else gets their own bill.
People acting like they're rich, until the bill comes.
This is what happens when the Waffle House crowd goes uptown!!!!
Exactly- you don't want to make a scene.
I'm sure they left at least a 20% tip😂😂
It's simple. Pay for what you ordered. Period.
God damn I'd be so embarrassed to be in that group acting like that in a restaurant
Trifling folks have no idea what embarrassment feels like.
If you watch your "friends" ordering bottles and food for hundreds of $, it's not easy to keep cool if rhey want to split the bill.
I understand him and I hope he never greets them again. A bunch of sadists.
@@robertspengeler6632 It's the restaurant's fault. When they seen them coming, extract the money from their account first! Upon completion, take them out to the back and let them discuss it!
This isn’t splitting the bill for birthday girl. This is splitting the bill for birthday girl and her greedy, friends.
I went to a Meet Up and thr same thing happened but luckily I immediately requested a seperate check. When they started arguing, I paid my bill and left. Waaaay too much drama for me!
There's no way I'd hang out with people who'd pull crap like this.
As a career waiter; I'm wondering how they treated the staff?
As a server most of my life too , how much you do you think that server got tipped ? But she had to claim. .
I would say they probably got nothing
You know they ain't tipping
Let's be honest... You really wondering? Lol
This is why they include gratuity for large groups
When that grown woman said "its my birthday, why should I have to pay for anything" I knew i hated her.
She's right tho. Shouldn't her meal be free?
@@kaii231 She needed to take a nuanced approach. She sounded like an unsympathetic ass.
@@kaii231 says who?? What are you, 10? You shouldn't make demands like that if you're a decent person and if you have good friends they'd have offered to pay. Both groups are ridiculous.
@@kaii231 Why? Because she was born? GTFOH
Why not? If she’s celebrating her birthday with friends and family
Pay for what you ordered. There, problem solved. Its not rocket science!!
Watch video again. Observe participants. Come back and modify comment.
That poor waiter probably busted his ass for a $5 tip
I hate going out with a lot of people and splitting the bill....always uncomfortable
Simple. No debate. Pay for what YOU ordered. Split the BIRTHDAY girl’s bill. Find NEW friends.
Pay only for what you ordered!
Pay for what YOU eat. PERIOD. Carry your own water people.
Hell naw, we ain’t splitting the bill evenly! Folks are roguish, trifling and greedy as hell. Trying to take advantage. They know they wouldn’t order all that food if they were by themselves, celebration be damned.. I’m paying for what for what I ordered!
My wife and I went to a dinner with some people that we were friendly with but not really friends (maybe more correctly associates). This was at a sports bar, not a high dollar place. We are not drinkers but most of the group, apparently, was. I have no problem with them drinking but I'm not paying for it. The bill came, leader of the pack says everybody put in $100. I was like hold up Bud. My wife and I ordered $14 dollar burgers and iced tea. That comes to about $35. Here's $50 for the food and tip. I'm not paying for your night on the town.
After that, whenever there was a function that brought us together, leader of the pack couldn't help but call me out as being cheap. After several such instances, I finally had enough of it. He started in with something about my wallet squeaking when I open it. I laughed and said, in front of the group that it wasn't because I was cheap , I just wasn't going to enable his alcoholism. Everyone laughed a little and I think he got the message that I was done with the nonsense.
I'd never expect anyone to pay for me, even if it was my birthday. If you want to be Mr Big Shot and spend stupid money, go ahead, have a ball. Just be prepared to pay for it.
Good for you. The cheapskates are the “let’s split the bill 💸, alcoholic mooches “.
The people choosing expensive plates and then expecting the bill to be split evenly are selfish and GREEDY. VERY vile behavior.
It's normal for these people!
Caviar dreams with canned tuna budget.
Splitting the bill is a surefire way to destroy friendships. Everyone pays for their own meal, and perhaps split the birthday person’s only.
It is crass to expect your guests t pay for your dinner just because it is your birthday. Gifts should NEVER be EXPECTED!!!! It honestly seems that etiquette is sadly lacking here.
What the hell did they order! There were at least 8-12 people. But, I don’t see $4,600 worth of food!
No subsidies here. Outside of the Bday girl, pay for what you ordered. Period.
You never make someone pay for drinks when they didn’t drink.. that’s RIDICULOUS!!!!
If I invite people out to celebrate something with me, I AM PAYING. I can't imagine inviting people to a celebration for ME, and expect THEM to pay for it.
Or going out with a group and expecting people who ordered a water and salad to pay for someone else's $200 meal and alcohol. NOOOOOOOO!!! Everyone pays for their own.
Have you ever noticed that the people that ordered over the top are always the ones screaming split the bill evenly?
You, sir, are a man of keen observation skills. 😆👍💯
Always!!!
Everyone should pay for their own meal and just divide the Birthday Person's meal amongst everyone.. That was a Ridiculous Bill!!!
blacks on welfare have no buisness going to high class dinner. just scam pizza hut order pizza and say the toppings were not right and get a free credit
For all we know she may have a circle of expensive restaurants that she organises a group for celebrations and gets 15% plus free meal and drinks from guests . If she is working a online scam she could easily have a birthday every month.
Folks on welfare have no business eating a fancy meal. People been voting by skin color for many years now starting to see the Dem party has been playing them for a fool
REMINDS ME OF TRUMP - Bragging he will be paying for everyone and then sneaking out without even paying for himself.
How embarrassing. Should've went to McDonald's lol
Black people not wanting to pay a bill............never heard such a thing.
Blacks not getting along is not of this world...
I’m sure the waitress was tipped very well
I don't know why this was so complicated. Each person pays their own bill and everyone chips in to pay for the birthday girl's bill. WTF
Hello... SEPARATE CHECKS! Then, split the birthday person's meal!! #DONE 😉
**AND, don't hang around "friends" that would EVER act like that out in public!!
1. the meal should have been discussed up front
2. everyone pay for their own meal
3. everyone contribute for the birthday meal
Let everybody know to bring enough CASH to cover whatever they order, their portion of the birthday person order and tip. 🤷🏻♀️
I am older & wiser. I now avoid group dinners like the plague because of: 1) splitting of the bill aggravation 2) maybe sitting next to someone unpleasant or he/ she’s a stranger 3) not really having a friendly, personal chat with the guest.
How tf did they end up with 4,600 bill?!?! Even my family and extended family of 12 went to a restaurant and ended up even under 900 dollars 😂!
I would check the bill and make sure the restaurant wasn’t being shady towards a large group hoping for everyone to overlook extra charges. I always double check the costs with the check. I’ve caught 2 restaurants doing it and had to chat with their managers about it. However it usually doesn’t happen at more upscale places in my experience.
I bet they ordered a lot of alcoholic drinks.
Some of these "friends" take advantage of the situation and order all the food they want to eat and expect others to subsidize their orders.
We had a group of friends who loved to order away in fancy restaurants and then wanted to split the bill. I very discreetly would tell the waitress to keep my bill separated and i always paid my bill and always left them arguing about the bill.
You dont have to make a scene 😮😅
In most countries in Europe, if you invite people for your birthday party you pay the whole bill. The guests are invited they don't pay anything but they bring presents.
That's usually the rule here as well.
Usually the birthday person doesn’t pay. But also usually people don’t expensive things in big groups and people split by item or break it even. But it also depends on how close you are. The money matters less with close family and friends or one person pays and it is split later after we leave.
Europeans have far more class than Americans
How do friendships end?
With a $4,600 bill split...
I would have paid for my meal, gave birthday girl some money and flew the coop on that situation, plans change when you get drunk. BYE!!!
Never go out to dinner with more than one person as a man, they will expect you to pay.
Did she invite them out for her birthday then insist she isn’t paying? That’s crazy. And honestly more than likely she probably ordered the most stuff knowing she wasn’t going to pay
It sounded like they offered to cover her as it’s her birthday but when they started arguing she insisted that she wasn’t gonna pay because they had told her they would cover but were now arguing over the bill
Most likely she picked the restaurant.
Look, never go out to expensive restaurants with large groups of black people. There will always be individuals who order more than they can afford.
Finally, these women truly believed the men were going to pay.
You sound dumb af cause it’s not all Black folks. This can happen to any group of young people. Also have you seen the kardashian’s of white housewives who argue over money. Please stfu
@@gracegreen1859 damn... that fall in your garden hard... 😂😂
I'm guessing since they didn't want to pay for their stuff, they certainly weren't worried about a tip for the wait staff. Low class, trashy ash, broke, entitled behavior
Female privilege makes male privilege look like indentured servitude. Welcome 🤗 to the Matriarchy.
Preach on brother! So true!
This is what happens when you invite mooches to an expensive place. They always order things they can't afford and try to pawn it off on other people. It's obvious by their behavior that they don't frequent places like that.
This is what happens when entitled mooches invite normal people to places. One is about the money and using people to their advantage and making a fkin show about it the other is trying to accompany/enjoy their "friends" company. Birthday girl.. of course fine she dont pay itd her bday; everyone else, priced accordingly, as stated above.
I went to a family dinner of a friend, and the amount of food some of the people ordered was insane. I had a bowl of pasta and a beer, whilst many others had starters, mains, desserts. They ordered sides that I didn't touch, or a drop of the 6 or so bottles of red wine they consumed. The bill came to £875 and they truly expected me to pay £90.....my friend stood up and said "no way" she not paying that amount for a bowl of pasta!!! They were shocked.
They honestly thought they could offload their gluttony onto my purse without even considering that I ate the least. I honestly think it is a greedy and ignorant expectation of some people, who believe the less greedy of the group should compensate them for stuffing their faces. Such entitlement.
At least 5 of them should have paid £140 each, but they refused. My friend ordered duplicate bills and made each of them cross off their food order. The waiter came around and charged their card for that amount.... Epic!!! I really respected her for that.
Once everything settled down, I
ordered a taxi, my friend made a joke and asked everyone who had initially fussed and expected to split the bill, if they could all collectively pay for my cab 😂😂😂😂 Their faces was a picture...... I will never get roped into having a gathering again unless the bill is discussed before ordering.
4600$...what did they order... the unicorn steak....?
That's 12 months of groceries for most people!
My mom taught us on someone else's dime, it's manners to be modest. You can pick up the most expensive toy in the store, or order the highest priced menu item, but that's rude af. Instead, you look at the cheapest items and the moderately priced items, and you pick from there something you like, or something you can work with. As an adult, I don't even do the "What can I afford" thing on someone else's dime because I'm expensive. I do the "What would I want to pay if I was broke and treating someone else". It never fails. I actually get scolded for picking something cheap and budget friendly sometimes.
FACTS!!! To think these girls did this to actual friends..
WELL former friends ;D... Thos emen are parma disgusted as they should.....
Im even offended..
I never, ever, ever suggest dinner or brunch for my birthday. I throw a party or I do nothing. Asking people to pay to celebrate me feels so tacky.
It is tacky. She was probably the one ordering bottles.
If y’all are out screaming in public u need new friends 🤣
I’m sorry but 8 people running up a $4600.00 bill is insane! And I’d be changing my circle of friends…phuc that…
I’m not paying over five hundred bucks for a meal
Seems like everyone thought someone else would be footing the bill
Dam right. I'd go to an expensive restaurant in an occasion with my babe. And me. Or a friend...
If you go to Chef Ramsay's steak house called Steak....it would be difficult to spend 600 on dinner per person. And his prices is a cool 250 to 300 to do it right. But 600? Somebody bought some Chateau-how much for this bottle of old grapes-lefite 1982. A fine year.
Some people love living above their means and think it's a flex. Only made worse by the gram.
@@jdamoormartinirossi791 Yeah. Sadly..
Order only what u can pay for. Stop trying to get free stuff from people. He was right not to split it. I wouldn't be friends with anyone who acted like that.
Exactly I would’ve paid just for my stuff and left.
Still should chip in a reasonable amount for the birthday girl, but don't let her go overboard with the spending, unless it's her money. If each of 7 guests allow up to $40, then bd girl has up to $320 before she has to pay out of pocket. No $700 bottle of Cristal.
@@oahuhawaii2141 u said it all with 1 word: reasonable. Nothing in this situation was reasonable, except for the gentleman refusing to pay His money for Their dinners.
Maybe 15 people at the table? $306 per person ? I would not ask my friends to do this for me.
I thought I heard 7 guests besides the birthday girl, who wants the others to pay for her extravagant meal. Bill was $4600, so $657 per guest, if split evenly.
The ones who want to split the bill are always the ones ordering everything on the menu.
Yes 👏🏻
Everyone should be separately billed for their order, and split the celebrated’s bill.
Rational people would sort this out before dinner. It's called separate checks.
Don’t go to a restaurant if you can’t afford the prices yourself. Don’t order more than you would do alone or with your family. Finally say something before the meal gets out of hand.
Anna, as a Black woman, I do not understand what "cultural differences" you are referring to. Nobody is paying upward of $500-$900 for other people to eat without prior consent. Whoever decided to order those expensive drinks will be paying for said drinks ALONE.
Separate checks. Pay your own check and tip. Period. Then everyone chips in an approximately equal amount for the Birthday person's check and tip. It's not freaking rocket science for Heaven's sake.
EDIT: And pay for your own BOOZE!!
A lot of high end places say they won’t split a bill into 12 separate ones, I’m sure they eventually do it though if they want to get their money.
It’s always the people that order the most expensive things that want to split the bill.
and yall already know no one tipped.
You put in the amount of money that you spent on your own dinner and drinks plus tax and tip and throw in something for the birthday girl's dinner. The End. Those people that ordered expensive dinners and bottles and then wanted to divide the check evenly were trying to get over. Hell naw.
Everyone pay their own and then split the Birthday persons meal. Problem solved.
No one OWES her a meal just because it's her Birthday. How entitled. But you 2 agree to that? That she was entitled to a free meal? Seriously? A gift is offered NOT mandatory.
i agree with the hosts. it's a common courtesy.
@@whitesoxMLB a COURTISY is just that. and NOT implied.
@@user-sk1fw3wu7h i disagree
Once it became an issue why didn't everyone just pay for what they ordered ? It's a simple, fair, elegant solution
Don’t attend. Pay zero. Send a card for best wishes, $4.99.
I say this as someone who would order alcohol, there's no way non-drinkers should chip in for the drinks.
Split only the birthday person bill the rest EACH PAY THEIR MEAL...
This is why i dont like going to restaurants with big groups. There's always someone who takes advantage by ordering large and avoids paying. They suddenly go very silent or disappear to toilet when it comes time to pay.
4,600 dollars. How many were there?
Friends the tv show did a good section on this.
Americans have this habit of making everything more expensive than it needs to be. Graduation from high school was never a big thing until Americans going ott became a thing.
The people who felt the cost of the dinner was not excessive were probably the ones who ordered the high end dinners and had several drinks. They expect the others to subsidize their meal. NO WAY.
I never understood the "split the bill" mentality (And I worked as a server for over 10 years, and virtually never saw anyone else do this either). I get one person treating everyone at the table, I do that. I get everyone paying for their own ticket (easily done, the server just has to do a little bit of extra work, and we are prepared to do that). I get splitting the Birthday girl's dinner amongst the whole group (everyone paying a little more as a present), but I don't get why anyone would split the bill evenly. That just guarantees someone is getting screwed at the table.
Sounds like a lazy idea
I agree. I’ve never understood this idea myself. When I am invited out I either will pay for any extras I get or someone usually offers to treat eveyone
My best friend and i do it all the time. We basically order food and drinks and it all comes out around the same price. So if we order an appetizer to share and two burgers and two cokes we will pretty much be paying the same amount so instead of making the server give us two bills we just split it and if one of us has to pay an extra .20 no one is crying about it.
@@Carmen698 Three Points for this:
1) You are going into this dinner with this tradition in mind so you can plan and order accordingly.
2) You intentionally order similar items, while sharing an item (part of the planning accordingly). You are not ordering $100 worth of food while your friend orders $20, and expect her to pay $60. (Which is what happened in this situation)
3) It is still a very weird thing to do. I imagine it is for the bonding experience, but you are still paying separately, just with your actual total being off a bit. It takes virtually no extra effort for the server to split the shared appetizer and you pay your actual amount correctly. If you want to bond like that, alternate paying for the whole meal (so it's all on one check). It would make it actually faster, easier, and you'd be bonding even more since you are treating each other.
Your current plan has you both still paying separately, still making the server split your check, but you are limited from ordering anything significantly more expensive than the other if you feel like it, without being rude.
@@Carmen698 .20¢ is a whole different level from an extra $600 babes...
Pay your own bill. Each leave a tip. Grow up immediately.
You pay your share plus a tip and leave it at that.
How is this complicated? You pay for what you ordered, MAYBE treat the birthday girl, that's it. This is not complicated. What makes this complicated?
When someone treats you, that doesn't mean take advantage and be reckless. Have some respect for your peers.
Blacks...
@@truthbtold2910 Every/ Any body.
People collectively trying to scam poor restaurant workers.
@@truthbtold2910 Anybody.
I'm financially secure, I don't drink alcoholic beverages, I'm 6'5" but my stomach isn't equipped to handle that much food. With THAT said, there's no f**kin' way I'm splitting a $4600 dinner bill when I know that I'm not eating more than $60 worth of food that may not even taste all THAT great. Hell... I typically don't even order dessert after my meal because I'm always stuffed from the little bit of food I ate. 😄