Building taller buildings has become a dick measuring contest for developing countries. They don't actually need tall buildings but just want to become more renouned and gain tourism.
To be fair there was some of that in the US also, though they were largely privately funded, not gov't vanity projects- the Empire State being an exception..
@@usernotfound7481anyone has a legitimate right to their opinion. And besides, Europe does have plenty of skyscrapers, but only in selected areas of some major cities because of the need to preserve historic architectural heritage. We have relatively little of that in the US.
Historically cities that didn't have area to build in needed to go vertically. NYC and Chicago have gentrified massively in the last 3 decades. For instance, if a new company wants to open their headquarters in NYC, they don't need to put a skyscraper in Manhattan, they can just build a wider building in Brooklyn or Queens. So NYC and Chicago don't need to build vertically anymore.
I'd say it's largely about commercial v residential. Most of the US tall buildings were always office buildings. As the suburbs spread, commercial buildings went with them where land and taxes were cheaper. I used to work in downtown Chicago, commuting & parking was a huge issue also. Ultimately it's about regulation, a lot of places just don't allow low density suburbs to be built, they build a virtual wall around cities to keep in tax revenue- 'green belts' so people have little option to leave- so residential buildings climb along with the home prices.
I mean It’s really more about longevity, then just building random tall, skyscrapers. Anyone can do that but after so many years of having the same skyscrapers America has some of the most visited skyscrapers till this day.
not everyone can build skyscrapers, if anyone can do that surely the USA would've build at least two or three of the tallest skyscrapers in their vast and highly populated country, yet they have no any, their own norm make it impossible for them to have super tall skyscrapers so obvioulsy no, not everyone can build skyscrapers
ya this is so off. the US remains the country where millions of people live and work above the 5th floor. these oil republics/states building them as tourist traps doesnt change that they have a few dozen buildings meant to look cool. in the US, we use them functionally.
@@lemonmelon1767 Eh, not really. There are no functional reasons why most of its tallest buildings need to be that tall. The surrounding areas don't match the density of their skyscrapers. If you would like an example of a practical skyscraper, you can just look at Tokyo. The skyscrapers they have try to maximize floor area while minimizing height and generally match the density of the general areas they're in.
USA-New York, Chicago has been home to skyscrapers nearly for 100 years. In last decades, years Asian, Arab countries have buildings more higher. Dubai, UAE cities, Katar, Kuwait etc. dont need these, just for show. That countries population are smaller than USA cities
I feel the same way about the imbeciles who refuse to allow developers in suburbs to build denser housing. It just continues to drive up the price of housing, and making living in American suburbs shit in comparison to how suburbs are developed in Europe and Japan.
@@davidjordanoski801 go to paris, less than 10% of a major city needs tall skyscrapers for office space, if you dont like it move to the other 90% of the city or to a rural area
@@AnixCo1990And I feel bad for the people that live in single-family suburbs and have to rely on their car for something as simple as groceries, it’s just sad that America is built on suburbs.
The United States doesn’t need to compete with the UAE or East/Southeast asian countries over the tallest skyscrapers. Asian people are used to living in high density cities with skyscrapers. The culture in America and the type of demand for housing is still the famous post-WW2 style single-family home, with a driveway, garage, and a fence in a suburban neighborhood. Of course, we have some pocket cities in the country for any urban dwellers that wants to experience the big city life and there’s plenty of construction for high rises in apartments. That is NYC, Chicago, Washington DC, San Francisco, Philadelphia, and Boston.
While new skyscrapers are still not popular in the US (even in the big cities), a noticeable shift is occurring in American development patters as the consequences of predominantly "American-style" single family home zoning have become more apparent. Due to traffic, the finances of it (namely the fact that single family home zoning is financially in the red without continuous growth), and many American cities hitting size limits (either geographic or due to practicality and the limits of car infrastructure), the demand and production of multi-use, multi-family, or even just alternate, slightly denser forms of single family homes have been rapidly gaining popularity in the states.
How much taller can buildings go? I’ve seen video from condos at the top of Burj Khalifa. There is a ton of sway and creaking. I wouldn’t want to live there.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639 how where the floods and living in a city where that spend millions of dollars on a building that hasno suwedge. Also a country where there no freedom of speech and has essentially slave labor ass they will have foriner fly in take away there passports so they can't leave and when they protest to get more money jail them and take away there pay. The hole city is essentially one giant amusement park.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639just because its instagrams darling doesn’t mean its a good place to live it’s just flashy ahmed all the oil barons and drug lords live there for no taxes
USA real estate markets are facing major uncertainty due to the working from home phenomenon that has firmly taken root reducing the need for office space and saving companies money. Both Chicago’s and New York City’s days of having the worlds tallest buildings is pretty much over for the foreseeable future.
I do wonder if we're approaching a window or already in a period where the height of the tallest skyscraper in the world might plateau. It's already been over 15 years since the Burj Khalifa was completed, and no one seems to be building higher (except maybe the Saudis if Jeddah Tower ends up being completed). Given populations trending downwards in many developed countries, it could be quite awhile before a true skyscraper becomes the new tallest (imo a new tallest tower exceeding the height of the Burj Khalifa could become a big race in future decades especially in developing countries)
This doesn't matter the city of Dubai is terribly Designed with the worlds tallest building there just recently got proper plumbing before they had line ups of pool trucks on massive highways to get rid of waste
Well Oklahoma City is on path to build a 1907ft tall tower, which would be the 6th tallest building in the world, and tallest in America. And with how things are going, its chances of it actually happening are pretty high. They will start construction on its lower towers this fall, and depending on its demand, they will determine the height, it’s a residential tower, and OKC is one of the fastest growing cities in the country, so that’s something it has the demand for, OKC is also down 3000+ hotel rooms, and it includes a hotels. It seems very likely that Oklahoma City will be home to the countries tallest building. (And yes this tower will be built to survive the almost impossible chance of it being hit by a tornado)
A economic turndown can get it cancelled or downsized as sooooo many others in our cities have. Chicago literally had 2 or 3 supertalls under construction and a mega-tall 2000 footer when the 2007 08 Crash occurred. Trump Tower Chicago which was to be taller in 2000 planning considerably, got scaled down by 9 11 and of course... financing as cost skyrocket just after like 40-stories, yet alone 100 +. It was about 1/2 way up with financing by mostly Dueschbank in place, so it got finished. Another by a Japanese company for a luxury hotel and condos also was 20 stories up and got stopped and literally cancelled LITERALLY.... at 20-stories up. It was finished as a totally other building at 50- stories vs 90+ a few years later. The mega-tall for 2000 ft Chicago Spire. Had LITERALLY its circular foundation in when the Crash occurred and all its international financing suddenly dried up. It stopped dead in its tracks for decades as proposals by new owners and designs made public... came and went with no replacement. That hole FINALLY 2008 or so after numerous owners, new plans that hit economic changes etc and plans drawn up and going public.... still had not come to fruition. A twin tower design came before Coovvid was 2-towers one a super-tall with joint podium and hotel lower levels. Nimby's and the Alderman then claimed the hotel had to go... bringing too much traffic and blocking light etc. That then had to be redesigned minus the hotel and podium. They kept the similar look/design by scaled down the height and it was approved as short of super-tall. Then Covvvid hit and delays again. Now earlier this year FINALLY the old foundation got cleaned out and water removed.... reinforce and ground-breaking for the twin-tower concept now ongoing.... Still it is the taller one first and not completed till 2027. The second tower will depend on demand fo apts in that era. So for Oklahoma City.... economy even after approval matters. Scaling back is for most tower in the USA anyway. Even beginning construction does not guarantee it completes and at anytime it could be scaled back. Actually, that height means luxury high-cost by how much it cost that high. Will people pay as much as a NYC nearly or a Chicago to live without a skyline view as those other cities or water to look over? So we shall see.... if all goes with no changes? Even mighty Houston had 80s supertall by Big oil and early 80s deep recession it was canceled and no other since.... Chicago got a supertall glory tower fo Big Oil when early 70s its 2nd super-tall came as the Standard Oil building.... then soon no Standard Oil as it merged and got split and of course.... big Oil of Indiana was no more. Still the tower exist today standing proud.
@@davidw7 those were downsized for multiple reasons. They didn’t have enough money, the plans were canceled, ect. The developer for this project is quite literally trying as hard as he can to make this a reality, he’s passionate about it, he wants it to happen, he has secured all the money needed, he has gotten it approved and everything. Quite literally the only thing he needs left to build it at its full height is its demand, and once again almost all of the stuff included are stuff the city is in desperate need of, and if I’m not mistaken it will also be determined off the success of the bottom towers which will be affordable housing and hotels. Considering how strongly the developer wants it to happen I wouldn’t be surprised if they just built it to its full height without the needed demand. I mean they would probably be able to make their income off tourism alone, the tourism this thing could bring could literally be what makes it happen. It being in such a random city, and standing out so much is what’s going to go get people to go and see it.
@@-OAK- It must be profitable not a tourist looking attraction.... that can help to be with a hire profitable desire for leasing its space. If it is, it gets tenants to pre-order residences (they can still get out of) and a hotel chain promise, plus if some offices perhaps and that space booked. Sure it has a good chance right now in the stage and apparently financing. Still this is AMERICA. We have recessions, stock market downturns. Companies in a heyday find declines. TIMING YES IS EVERYTHING. Some of us older realize how many projects of our fav cities from planning to financing to favorable economic climate for leasing, renting, selling in place at time of building and they go up.... Still that is not solid and scales back have occurred. Recessions hitting big Oil when Houston was to get 1980s supertall killed it. TIMING again. It was a beauty too sad it never got built or plans reused. Most companies that move to Texas for the cheaper....are not looking to pay for a extra-pricey supertall... not even big oil anymore... basic glass boxes in a office park more some of their speed as a workplace. I get young ZEAL... I had it for Chicago booming core thru the 2000s 2010s. Fastest growing downtown still is growing fast... just not the same economy. Again, SO MANY SUPERTALLS PLANNED that from start to beginning a ECONOMIC CHANGE kills it. I mean many. Even for mighty NYC many planned never got built. All of these towers built and some not built or scaled down had dreamers as a sort of glory tower as a life passion. I know of Chicago's in the 2000s that did not happen planned and presented to view and I thought.... LETS's GO BUILD IT NOW.... and NYC had too. Sadly, economy from planning to ground-breaking was not sometimes the same. One the main billionaire who one supertall was his dream was killed before went up. Others a downturn in a economy or condo/rental market can suddenly have some investors get cold feet. Most it is a small miracle they get built. OK city is not even a highly speculative market as a Miami where some think and thought it would boom always and towers built leased easily. You go back a few years and even mighty Miami had a surplus of residence towers literally. Then the climate was rip for demand... they finally leased over years and again, demand again and plans for new towers came and many under construction. Now a hope no calamities, economic slowdowns or our election having a major issue some fear. Even Chicago's defunct megatall 2000 footer that was killed in 08 by the Crash and foundation in had most condos pre-ordered by international buyers .... but the crash had cancelling galore... its international backers lose millions in the Crash and global meltdown. Many other towers across America did also get a ax. There is not guarantee in our market-based economy. Fear can kill the best of projects that looking back would have been a success of timing only was a couple years earlier or later.... A Chicago latest supertall was planned and started by a Chinese billionaire... China made its companies scaled down owning American assets... the project almost was not. US investors saw a promise in buying out the plans and completing the tower....even the original Chinese hotel was at risk and another secured and they canceled.... St Regis did then commit to a hotel lower portion and it was renamed St Regis tower a Supertall along the Chicago river that opened 2020 21. It was a small miracle again that many almost-fails could have had it end.... yet it did get built with luxury condos going for many millions $$$.... can a OK City get 100s of residences to lease for millions in a supertall??? We shall see. Good Luck OK City.
@@davidw7 well to be fair a project like this will have a massive economic impact, the other ones in the other cities wouldn’t be as impact aside from Chicago, and there were multiple reasons the spire didn’t happen. Building this without the demand would be extremely beneficial, it would massively impact the city, like I said from tourism alone they could probably make their profit, Dubai tripled its growth rate and skyrocketed tourism the year the burj khalifa built, they weren’t necessarily a place that people wanted to go at the time, and they had nowhere near the needed demand, yet now it’s one of the worlds most popular spots because of that tower, the same thing would happen to OKC if it were to be built, more buildings and skyscrapers being built next to it for easy recognition, a higher growth rate, more tourism, so even if they wouldn’t make the profit off making it its full height, it would still be worth the money, they have all the money needed to build full height. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they build full height even without the needed demand.
Other than what was planned and agreed upon in Oklahoma City, I doubt there’ll be any skyscrapers in America that will reach among the world’s tallest mainly for fear of it being a terrorist target.
The current tallest building in the world isn't even hooked up to a sewer line. Human waste has to be trucked out. Can't imagine what would happen if the waste management people ever went on strike. 😂😂
Nice vid covering the US side, but there are quite a few discrepancies and assumptions for those outside. For starters the region with the most skyscrapers -East Asia -is both an earthquake zone and typhoon one, so everything has to be over-engineered. China additionally goes through annual flooding, and 'mega-floods' that hit once every 50 years due to global warming, which is something you instantly notice in the array of specs demanded if you work out there as an architect / engineer. A lot can be said too about the 'tofu' dregs construction of corrupt builders in the 80s and 90s, but those were decades that vast amounts of illegal housing went up (which btw underwent the world's largest demolition drive in the 2010s). For all the uproar about rural schools and villages in Sichuan that collapsed within seconds during the 2008 earthquake, that coined the local 'tofu' phrase, the entire city of Chengdu, pop 10 million, survived largely unscathed at twice the shaking intensity for global standards of earthquake-proofing (7.0 rather than 8.0), along with thousands of other towns and cities. Also residents cannot simply be 'mandated' off their land -it would be good to have done more research (just look up 'nail houses' and why they're so common in the country). In 2007 China underwent 1 million demonstrations largely over residential and workers issues, and environmentalism -twice the usual amount, that terrified the authorities just one year before the Beijing Olympics. They quickly drafted a whole slew of workers rights on par with the EU, and land/ hukou reform. Although the land belongs to the state, what is on it belongs to the people. This traditional impasse is now heavily suited for the residents - it's illegal to forcibly evict anyone, and everything taken must be compensated -not just in money but in accommodation too, which is why having your house slated for development is now seen as a windfall, akin to winning the lottery. -Free mod cons home (often with the choice of having it in the new development), plus payment for the cost of the building and land, over market rates. The nail houses are the ones who just simply refuse, no matter what they offer. This is why China often has to build its HSR network on pillars to circumvent farmers, effectively building the world's largest bridges hundreds of km long and why its showpiece Maglev tech never reached central Shanghai, due to demonstrations over cancer fears -the country has its fair share of nimbyism too. The note about how Shanghai is able to build on 'flat' pieces of land dismisses the fact those parcels are way harder to find than the US, as China does not have large parking lots everywhere, and has far higher population densities -the city records 30,000-50,000 per sq km for a central area 6x the size of Manhattan (28,000 per sq km), and 50,000 -130,000 for 4x. Also as the city is largely marshland, they require the world's deepest foundations and piling, while dodging the world's largest subway network. Likewise, Hong Kong, the worlds densest, most expensive place to build with the highest property values, is still one of the world's most prolific builders every year, currently with 4x the built height of NYC (if you added all the heights up). The reason there are more tall buildings in the region is not the logistics, but of course the larger, denser population, the lack of wfh, and that you correctly point out, the lower labour costs (for example a night shift takes over each evening so construction never pauses). It's also the fact building tall is so common and normalised every process is now largely automated. Chinese SOP for example uses 3D apps to plan every shift beforehand, for every worker, girder and nail, in cram meetings that Ive never seen in the US -a process that saves huge amounts of time later on and identifies endless issues beforehand. They also build a small section off-site just to see what it would look and 'feel' like (as opposed to computerised fly-throughs and rose-tinted renderings). It would save a huge amount of cost and time if these practices were adopted.
Yeah, his points regarding China were just the usual, badly researched points, some of which are not even true anymore. Cheap labor, the government can just take people's houses and land without permission or compensation etc..
@@HipHopIsLifee Only applies to portions of Houston. The city is frankly enormous on a geographic scale so there's not going to be a universal design restriction (except maybe in regards to flood proofing).
60-70 stories is ideal height for maximizing revenue. After that, you’re using most of your square footage for elevators. (On a personal note, the taller the better though.)
To a person on the street, the height of a building doesn't matter above 3 or 4 floors. Skyscrapers have always been a pissing match. I'm glad America stopped participating.
Skyscrapers are not cost-effective. Their construction requires ridiculous amounts of steel and concrete for what you get as a result, and their elevator cores waste too much floor space. And growing numbers of global skyscrapers are sitting half-empty or failing to complete construction.
Quite a lot of us don't like to go anywhere where we couldn't walk up the stairs,..and aren't they rather a fire hazard? Most of the beautiful buildings in the cities you mentioned aren't very tall...I mean the ones in Classical, Baroque and Rococo styles etc..but also, don't they become rather dysfunctional beyond a certain height?
Strolling around downtown Chicago one gets a feeling of claustrophobia. Add the traffic and all the pedestrians walking around everywhere and it feels chaotic. I never understood the fascination with big cities. Skyscrapers are interesting to a point, but they're really just a blight on the landscape. I'm much more in awe of nature. Denali, Grand Canyon....now those are impressive.
Calling them a blight a matter of taste, but as someone who appreciates nature you should still be appreciative of them. People are going to cluster in cities as they have for all of human history. The higher density of skyscrapers means that much more of nature gets preserved. Think about how the island of Manhattan has dramatically more people in it than most large American cities. Imagine how much land and nature is preserved by stacking people and uses into a single building, rather than hundreds of single story buildings. The comparison is the sprawling American suburbs, which destroy dramatically more of the natural environment than the big cities do by their sheer sprawl, to say nothing of the air quality problems they cause through car dependency. Also, the "fascination" with big cities mostly comes down to practicality. Work, food, water, energy, goods, travel, etc. are all much more efficient within a city due to the mixed use and proximity. It makes it easier to access many things necessary for human life. Grocery store, work, school, 3rd places, entertainment, healthcare, etc. are all much easier to access in a big city (especially when they have semi-functioning public transit like Chicago and NYC). American suburbs managed to royally screw up that efficiency though, since now you need cars to get everywhere and they take up a lot more room than the city can give them, and add a lot of noise and air pollution.
@@elevenb6967 when america always hold king of skyscraper no one ask what price, incentive bla bla 🤣🤣🤣, when lose to other country they ask what price 🙂. Loser is loser ❌
@@azhari__reus3475 You literally sound like you're still in grammar school. If you think that having a smaller building than other countries constitutes "losing", then I have nothing for you. I think I lost braincells reading your post. Run along now, and go play Roblox. Or whatever it is that you kids are doing now a days. -_-
In reality, there is no longer a need for super and mega tall skyscrapers in the West, where they are built according to market demand and where modern computer networks have made huge office skyscrapers obsolescent. They are mainly built in developing countries because they are largely government financed vanity projects. If they had to rely on market demand they would never get built.
I don't think 911 is why I mean they did build the freedom tower after which is taller even though they should have just rebuilt the towers but anyway our buildings are better doesn't even matter
buildings in America are built for economic reason, not political or pscyhological (inferiority complex) reasons, as they are in other places in the Third World countries
I think America gotta chance for a comeback though Okc is building the next tallest building in America that will be around 1,900 ft. Maybe American cities can go around the 2,000 feet limit who knows we’ll see.
@@AAa-bf2yd China has made Hong Kong far less desired. It sadly might never get one again? Still.... skylines that exede others do have those higher spikes and valleys vs those many similar limits in height. So YES those higher-spikes do add. Now making a city more beautify or better? That is up the beholder and of course if it draws others to invest and grow that core portion of a city....
Only difference is Asian/middle East cities look visually horrible bc they just build skyscrapers on top of skyscrapers. If you want that atheistic then I think Vancouver did it well where it looks nice rather than just building a whole bunch of skyscrapers.
@@tyreek.6815 they dont look bad imo they have pretty stunning infrastructure and architecture never really found many cities in china I been to to look visually bad plenty look good. It's just that almost all housing areas in China are comprised of giant sky line like apartments I have noticed
We also learned the style is not practical above a certain level. It is not LOSING to realize what works and how much of it works. The current tallest building on earth has no flush toilets and fleets of poop trucks UNPUMP the Burg daily! No, we don’t need that “Look At Me” expense and crap. (LITERALLY!)
The Chicago Spire that broke ground could have reclaimed the world's tallest title for America once again at 2,000 feet with 150 stories had the project been completed in 2008 a few years before the Burj Khalifa was completed at 2,717 feet with 168 stories. Imagine if Illinois Mile High was built it would have dwarf anything man made on earth rising at 5,280 ft with 528 stories. Elon Musk has the money to build this :)
High rises arent sustainable as seen in the crashing values of old condo projects. They are cost prohibitive to maintain properly. They are expensive to insure. And people are starting to realize how extremely valuable parking space, storage space, roof space for solar and small yards for growing food are. The desirability of condos will continue to plummet in coming years
Clearly, most cities are not all high-rises and skyscrapers... some far more than others. Most US cities only have a small % of their cities as high-rise to skyscraper. A handful more than others. Condos come in all sized including built in developments as also SFH's of course. Urban dense living is not going anywhere soon. Plenty of pretty tall 100s of yrs old dense apt living in European cities that again.... not going anywhere cause they are so desired with history that they are costly. Just as wealthier and higher-paid professionals are still going to accept Urban high-rise to skyscraper living and also why some US cities were successful in converting sometimes abandoned for years old warehousing and early manufacturing facilities to loft-living apts and condos. Add repurposing early skyscrapers before glass exteriors. Can be costly.... but still people who will pay for it. Proof is NYC and Chicago for sure. Others examples also. Not every US city is as dense as Manhattan. Also many of our cities have parkland, green roofs added more, SFHs with small yards and smaller front lawns in still urban cities. Even a small yard can be used or front lawn. Some cities have large parks not all forest. Some might hate our cities.... and it is toxic in US politics today in biased news also. Still, for millennia.... humans have inhabited cities. Even cities with little green-space and brick and stone streets throughout with dense few story housing throughout. They did not die and all move to suburbs either. It would take what some threaten.... by toxic political view kind of damage or of course some catastrophic event to end city living as we know it. Every world war had cities rebuild and renew.... even the US has renewed neighborhoods that white-flight and poverty to neglect by one plenty of work left mills in our cities legally to just rot. Gentrification includes many processes that renew, repurpose and infil lost housing, damaged and abandoned buildings for living again. I just watched a video on Chicago Fulton Market/West Loop its hot booming area next to the core... actually part now of the great core. It was once warehousing/meat-packing district and those old buildings repurposed to loft living for professionals and a new neighborhood is born with lots of dining, brewhouses and outdoor street-dining all spring thru late fall that was what the video was showing also a walk in Chicago's riverwalk loved by locals and tourist. Cities only die in the minds of those who hate enough to want to destroy and blame them vs revere their legacy and renew them as the rest of the world does.
@@davidw7 lol this has nothing to do with politics. Steel reinforced condos don't last forever. All the 100 year old ones you're still seeing standing cost a fortune to upkeep and maintain. The ones they actually keep beyond 100 years is maybe 1% of all buildings. The other 99% have been demolished. Once people realize this reality condo prices will crash through the floor because when you buy a condo you're paying for 95% building 5% land. Once the building is too old and cost prohibitive to maintain they'll tear it down and you'll be left with 5 cents on the dollar. At best. Good luck
@@sleepy670 Your rant on on-time mention in one paragraph of mine of many does have you triggered. Just realize a so called condo crash is not everywhere in this Great Nation as not every market is highly speculative, highly luxury and international buying, nor Wall Street kind of investing buying up places to sit on for profit of rising values. Now Florida was. It has every on of these. Also its intrusion of sea-water that cause deterioration and why it now has its costly inspection process and some have no choice but to repair or abandon it. These are not part of other markets of non-fast-booming speculative markets and cities. So their ups and downs are not in Crash cycles unless national in economic full Crashes. Currently, most markets like in the Midwest not booming or Wall-street investing and build more as needed. They merely had mild reactions. A Chicago is not a huge speculative market yet a still growing core region of professionals. 2000s and 2010s it boomed. Still some areas are building. Just also the office building boom that had 4 over 50-story towers built over Cooovid as Class A offices. Had many consolidate from Class B to Class A to lure back WFH people. So any new office space is generally in smaller buildings and multi-purpose and can change from planning to beginning construction to a revamp of choices. One 70s story tower completed this yr was planned as a very high-end luxury Condo tower. Covvid delayed it and financing came to iffy. Then literally new interior plans were drawn up.... Changing it to a luxury (not super pricey) apartment building. That building did get completed this year. Another near it that was to have its sister tower had them choose not to build that second on. Sooner or later something though will build there. A supertall got built began by a Chinese Billionaires investment. Donald T had his Chinese fight and China stopped its people from owning too much and investing here. He was forced to sell or stop building. It was multi-use with a luxury hotel and luxury condos and apts. Luckily, it did get new owners and investors and was completed last year as a supertall along the Chicago river. It has been selling, not sure how much might have so far. Even the Hotel originally to be a Chinese one had another interested... then they dropped out till now St Regis did build their hotel into it today. We went thru the CONDO CRAZE of converting apts to condos in the past... now some reversed.... that is difficult though. Chicago has high-rises all along its lake many built 60s 70s going strong..... no sea water damage LOL. Think about it... a 60s home, apt building, low-rise to high-rise and higher.... is 60 ish yrs old.... and no problems in needing some new foundation. Now coastal Florida has other issues unique to them and a highly speculative market that had it with a SURPLUS pre Covvvid.... a boom again, now your claims of a Condo CRASH... well this crash is not everywhere. It is in markets all about speculative FAST PROFIT Building. Our cities have issues for sure... so does Apalachia the Deep rural south and Ozarks... we highlight by some media certain cities in certain states. Other nations have none of this cat and mouse game. Still they have their own political issues too and divisions that have heated up... look at the UK now and others. Sad indeed. Hopefully we escape this threat happening in coming months. Or no one wins to crash one's own economy as infighting would certainly do. As some new sources highlight how our problems is from within... not exterior.
Nowadays with remote work skyscrapers are not necessary. They are expensive and bad for the environment. Building the tallest one is nothing but a show off. Not only that many of them are ugly. Focus on building more traditional architecture again.
They're better than the lowest end of density (single family homes and strip malls), but you're correct about the race for the tallest being pretty pointless. At more reasonable heights though they do a pretty good job at preserving the environment since they don't waste tons of land and reduce car trips (which is 30% of all US air pollution, btw)
when the US dominated the sky, they said they're king of the skies. when Asia took over especially the Chinese, they said who cares? what are the benefits? does it really matter? are those skyscraper full or empty? just shows the westerners ignorance 😂
@@adjudicator4766by population it is. Chicago has always been declining which is sad to see, but that’s only the southside and west side areas of the city. Theres plenty of people moving to the downtown area of Chicago which is called the loop.
Great video with most facts correct. But the Worlds tallest building Trump proposed also didn't get the tax exemption he wanted and he didn't do new build projects in New York for quite a while.
The US gdp is not the highest . By purchasing power parity, China is leading. The key word is "purchasing". With more purchasing power you can afford more.
It still is all concentrated in China's cities/metros. Apparently, you did not get the memo from rural China and the fact the govs pro build, build, Build push had developers built what we call "Ghost" cities. People invested as wanted... cost-of-living mean few moved in. So what is your reasoning for the man (some still not all known) Ghost cities of high-rises to skyscrapers unfinished or just never occupied to any desired degree? Also, Cooviid shut-downs were most severe there and the Communist crack-down on its test in Capitalism to seeking more full control, also forced selling off of especially US and Canadian assets outside of desire of land by US Military institutions if they could.
China has more poor people than we have people, but I’ll pass along the memo to let them know how much better off they are because of an arbitrary metric you decided was important.
PPP is significantly biased for low-income states because of their low domestic service costs. Having higher PPP doesn't mean that they can actually buy more goods and services in the international market.
I'll stay away from the Mission. Forgiveness isn't going to happen. That's... Fine. I guess. But undermining is only going to give me things that can hurt the institution.
@@_martian101Having no universal healthcare, high homelessness, mass shootings, mass lootings, and poops on the street are way more embarrassing. Nobody thinks Norway or Switzerland is backwards for having no mega tall tower.
@@nokidding3519 you're right, America is so called rich when people can't even have free healthcare and decent public transportation, I never knew it's even way backwards than I previously thought
The entire Old World (you know this term, i hope) calls The United Stated of America simply "America". When we talk about the United States of Mexico, we call it simply Mexico/Mexica, when we talk about other countries, we call them Venezuela, Brasil, Chile, Panama, Canada, etc. Unless it is a geography lesson, the word "America" means this specific country, not a continent or two. Deal with this fact.
@@_Diana_S you said nothing factual. North America is a continent. United States OF ….America. United States is a country. AMERICA is a content. The Facts are that that word is simply DISPROPORTIONATELY used globally. You accept that fact.
“America” is not a continent using the Anglophone’s world’s 7 continent model. North and South America are continents, combined they are the Americas. In English, using solely America to refer to a continent is incorrect. If we were using a language that taught a 6 continent model like Greek or most Romance languages you would be right.
@@imlx667 if you think about it, every skyscraper has thin and elongated core concrete to support the whole building, the central park tower just build less part that hook onto the core structure, make it looks thinner but also lighter
Definitely not crazier. They look better than these skyscrapers with no skyline in these other big cities. Like sorry but respectfully these skyscrapers on skyscrapers in like China or something is very ugly and crazy bc it’s just has no nice setting. Just tall buildings everywhere for the sake of having tall buildings.
Skyscrapers are the most anti-human and un-ergonomic building type. They are a blight to good urban design. Good riddens and farewell yee nasty glass boxes!
Building taller buildings has become a dick measuring contest for developing countries. They don't actually need tall buildings but just want to become more renouned and gain tourism.
To be fair there was some of that in the US also, though they were largely privately funded, not gov't vanity projects- the Empire State being an exception..
As a european american skyscrapers are already good as is and actually have a function unlike those really tall ones which are just to flex
As an european your comment doesnt count. Youse dont even have skyscrapers.
@@usernotfound7481 yes we have london paris rotterdam warsaw frankfurt moscow
@@podcasts4you9 you only care about eastern Europe and Russia when you want to
@@usernotfound7481anyone has a legitimate right to their opinion. And besides, Europe does have plenty of skyscrapers, but only in selected areas of some major cities because of the need to preserve historic architectural heritage. We have relatively little of that in the US.
They're useless. No building needs to be over 20 floors.
Historically cities that didn't have area to build in needed to go vertically. NYC and Chicago have gentrified massively in the last 3 decades. For instance, if a new company wants to open their headquarters in NYC, they don't need to put a skyscraper in Manhattan, they can just build a wider building in Brooklyn or Queens. So NYC and Chicago don't need to build vertically anymore.
But New York is building a lot of supertall skyscrapers
I feel like 9/11 is the reason the us isn't building tall skyscrapers
In the 2000s maybe ( + the 2008 financiual crisis). But now def not anymore esp post 2016.
I'd say it's largely about commercial v residential. Most of the US tall buildings were always office buildings. As the suburbs spread, commercial buildings went with them where land and taxes were cheaper. I used to work in downtown Chicago, commuting & parking was a huge issue also. Ultimately it's about regulation, a lot of places just don't allow low density suburbs to be built, they build a virtual wall around cities to keep in tax revenue- 'green belts' so people have little option to leave- so residential buildings climb along with the home prices.
I mean It’s really more about longevity, then just building random tall, skyscrapers. Anyone can do that but after so many years of having the same skyscrapers America has some of the most visited skyscrapers till this day.
100% Truth. Also, most people worldwide still think of New York City first when they think of skyscrapers.
@@Glitchful10 I said most.
@@Glitchful10He's got a point he did say most💀
not everyone can build skyscrapers, if anyone can do that surely the USA would've build at least two or three of the tallest skyscrapers in their vast and highly populated country, yet they have no any, their own norm make it impossible for them to have super tall skyscrapers so obvioulsy no, not everyone can build skyscrapers
@@Glitchful10Yes, most people in fact.
ya this is so off. the US remains the country where millions of people live and work above the 5th floor. these oil republics/states building them as tourist traps doesnt change that they have a few dozen buildings meant to look cool. in the US, we use them functionally.
How do other countries not?
@@aviation_4267 They do, the comment is clearly directed toward the Saudi/Emirati vanity skyscrapers that are more for status than function.
shut up bro the west are not superior to others. you're looking down at us too much.
that is more Dubai, China has a lot of functional buildings
@@lemonmelon1767
Eh, not really. There are no functional reasons why most of its tallest buildings need to be that tall. The surrounding areas don't match the density of their skyscrapers.
If you would like an example of a practical skyscraper, you can just look at Tokyo. The skyscrapers they have try to maximize floor area while minimizing height and generally match the density of the general areas they're in.
USA-New York, Chicago has been home to skyscrapers nearly for 100 years. In last decades, years Asian, Arab countries have buildings more higher. Dubai, UAE cities, Katar, Kuwait etc. dont need these, just for show. That countries population are smaller than USA cities
I love how the Twin Towers just never existed for you
I was going to say the same thing
imagine cutting short a skycraper in san francisco by 50 meters just because shadow, so ridiculous
I feel the same way about the imbeciles who refuse to allow developers in suburbs to build denser housing. It just continues to drive up the price of housing, and making living in American suburbs shit in comparison to how suburbs are developed in Europe and Japan.
Would you like it to spend the whole day without any proper sunlight coming in your apartment?
@@davidjordanoski801 go to paris, less than 10% of a major city needs tall skyscrapers for office space, if you dont like it move to the other 90% of the city or to a rural area
@@AnixCo1990And I feel bad for the people that live in single-family suburbs and have to rely on their car for something as simple as groceries, it’s just sad that America is built on suburbs.
@@davidjordanoski801 just go to a park or something if ur worried about sunlight. Plus it’s not like the shadow stays in one place for the entire day.
The United States doesn’t need to compete with the UAE or East/Southeast asian countries over the tallest skyscrapers. Asian people are used to living in high density cities with skyscrapers. The culture in America and the type of demand for housing is still the famous post-WW2 style single-family home, with a driveway, garage, and a fence in a suburban neighborhood. Of course, we have some pocket cities in the country for any urban dwellers that wants to experience the big city life and there’s plenty of construction for high rises in apartments. That is NYC, Chicago, Washington DC, San Francisco, Philadelphia, and Boston.
While new skyscrapers are still not popular in the US (even in the big cities), a noticeable shift is occurring in American development patters as the consequences of predominantly "American-style" single family home zoning have become more apparent. Due to traffic, the finances of it (namely the fact that single family home zoning is financially in the red without continuous growth), and many American cities hitting size limits (either geographic or due to practicality and the limits of car infrastructure), the demand and production of multi-use, multi-family, or even just alternate, slightly denser forms of single family homes have been rapidly gaining popularity in the states.
I'm not sure how I feel about your lack of acknowledging the twin towers
How much taller can buildings go? I’ve seen video from condos at the top of Burj Khalifa. There is a ton of sway and creaking. I wouldn’t want to live there.
No one cares where you wanna live. People wants to live in Burj Khalifa and Dubai. Instagram's darling is Dubai.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639Nobody wants to live on Burj Khalifa. It’s only for influencers and tourist photo ops.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639 how where the floods and living in a city where that spend millions of dollars on a building that hasno suwedge. Also a country where there no freedom of speech and has essentially slave labor ass they will have foriner fly in take away there passports so they can't leave and when they protest to get more money jail them and take away there pay. The hole city is essentially one giant amusement park.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639just because its instagrams darling doesn’t mean its a good place to live it’s just flashy ahmed all the oil barons and drug lords live there for no taxes
The tower does that on purpose, that’s how skyscrapers work
USA real estate markets are facing major uncertainty due to the working from home phenomenon that has firmly taken root reducing the need for office space and saving companies money. Both Chicago’s and New York City’s days of having the worlds tallest buildings is pretty much over for the foreseeable future.
Covid was the reason.
Want to be a skyscraper king? Skyscraper ghost king?
they need to build another art deco skyscraper
I do wonder if we're approaching a window or already in a period where the height of the tallest skyscraper in the world might plateau. It's already been over 15 years since the Burj Khalifa was completed, and no one seems to be building higher (except maybe the Saudis if Jeddah Tower ends up being completed). Given populations trending downwards in many developed countries, it could be quite awhile before a true skyscraper becomes the new tallest (imo a new tallest tower exceeding the height of the Burj Khalifa could become a big race in future decades especially in developing countries)
🎉😂 what a small world we live in, I found you again... This keeps on happening to me with other people also.
I learned a lot from watching this. Thank you.
Really, who cares? Doesn’t bruise my ego that some other country has taller buildings. So what?
New Yorkers care 😂. They aren't happy beating Chicago.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639New Yorkers literally don’t care about nothing but the fact they from New York. Stop it. No one is egotistical over skyscrapers.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639sounds like you’re from a city only rich people live in a soulless city built by slaves
@@tyreek.6815shut tf lil bro, we were the kings of big expensive infrastructure now poor ass Malaysia is beating us
@@tyreek.6815 Arab Oil Sheiks would beg to differ on the whole ego thing.
This doesn't matter the city of Dubai is terribly
Designed with the worlds tallest building there just recently got proper plumbing before they had line ups of pool trucks on massive highways to get rid of waste
Well Oklahoma City is on path to build a 1907ft tall tower, which would be the 6th tallest building in the world, and tallest in America.
And with how things are going, its chances of it actually happening are pretty high.
They will start construction on its lower towers this fall, and depending on its demand, they will determine the height, it’s a residential tower, and OKC is one of the fastest growing cities in the country, so that’s something it has the demand for, OKC is also down 3000+ hotel rooms, and it includes a hotels.
It seems very likely that Oklahoma City will be home to the countries tallest building.
(And yes this tower will be built to survive the almost impossible chance of it being hit by a tornado)
A economic turndown can get it cancelled or downsized as sooooo many others in our cities have. Chicago literally had 2 or 3 supertalls under construction and a mega-tall 2000 footer when the 2007 08 Crash occurred. Trump Tower Chicago which was to be taller in 2000 planning considerably, got scaled down by 9 11 and of course... financing as cost skyrocket just after like 40-stories, yet alone 100 +. It was about 1/2 way up with financing by mostly Dueschbank in place, so it got finished.
Another by a Japanese company for a luxury hotel and condos also was 20 stories up and got stopped and literally cancelled LITERALLY.... at 20-stories up. It was finished as a totally other building at 50- stories vs 90+ a few years later. The mega-tall for 2000 ft Chicago Spire. Had LITERALLY its circular foundation in when the Crash occurred and all its international financing suddenly dried up. It stopped dead in its tracks for decades as proposals by new owners and designs made public... came and went with no replacement.
That hole FINALLY 2008 or so after numerous owners, new plans that hit economic changes etc and plans drawn up and going public.... still had not come to fruition. A twin tower design came before Coovvid was 2-towers one a super-tall with joint podium and hotel lower levels. Nimby's and the Alderman then claimed the hotel had to go... bringing too much traffic and blocking light etc.
That then had to be redesigned minus the hotel and podium. They kept the similar look/design by scaled down the height and it was approved as short of super-tall. Then Covvvid hit and delays again. Now earlier this year FINALLY the old foundation got cleaned out and water removed.... reinforce and ground-breaking for the twin-tower concept now ongoing.... Still it is the taller one first and not completed till 2027. The second tower will depend on demand fo apts in that era.
So for Oklahoma City.... economy even after approval matters. Scaling back is for most tower in the USA anyway. Even beginning construction does not guarantee it completes and at anytime it could be scaled back. Actually, that height means luxury high-cost by how much it cost that high. Will people pay as much as a NYC nearly or a Chicago to live without a skyline view as those other cities or water to look over? So we shall see.... if all goes with no changes?
Even mighty Houston had 80s supertall by Big oil and early 80s deep recession it was canceled and no other since.... Chicago got a supertall glory tower fo Big Oil when early 70s its 2nd super-tall came as the Standard Oil building.... then soon no Standard Oil as it merged and got split and of course.... big Oil of Indiana was no more. Still the tower exist today standing proud.
@@davidw7 those were downsized for multiple reasons. They didn’t have enough money, the plans were canceled, ect.
The developer for this project is quite literally trying as hard as he can to make this a reality, he’s passionate about it, he wants it to happen, he has secured all the money needed, he has gotten it approved and everything.
Quite literally the only thing he needs left to build it at its full height is its demand, and once again almost all of the stuff included are stuff the city is in desperate need of, and if I’m not mistaken it will also be determined off the success of the bottom towers which will be affordable housing and hotels.
Considering how strongly the developer wants it to happen I wouldn’t be surprised if they just built it to its full height without the needed demand. I mean they would probably be able to make their income off tourism alone, the tourism this thing could bring could literally be what makes it happen.
It being in such a random city, and standing out so much is what’s going to go get people to go and see it.
@@-OAK- It must be profitable not a tourist looking attraction.... that can help to be with a hire profitable desire for leasing its space. If it is, it gets tenants to pre-order residences (they can still get out of) and a hotel chain promise, plus if some offices perhaps and that space booked. Sure it has a good chance right now in the stage and apparently financing. Still this is AMERICA. We have recessions, stock market downturns. Companies in a heyday find declines. TIMING YES IS EVERYTHING.
Some of us older realize how many projects of our fav cities from planning to financing to favorable economic climate for leasing, renting, selling in place at time of building and they go up.... Still that is not solid and scales back have occurred.
Recessions hitting big Oil when Houston was to get 1980s supertall killed it. TIMING again. It was a beauty too sad it never got built or plans reused. Most companies that move to Texas for the cheaper....are not looking to pay for a extra-pricey supertall... not even big oil anymore... basic glass boxes in a office park more some of their speed as a workplace.
I get young ZEAL... I had it for Chicago booming core thru the 2000s 2010s. Fastest growing downtown still is growing fast... just not the same economy. Again, SO MANY SUPERTALLS PLANNED that from start to beginning a ECONOMIC CHANGE kills it. I mean many. Even for mighty NYC many planned never got built.
All of these towers built and some not built or scaled down had dreamers as a sort of glory tower as a life passion. I know of Chicago's in the 2000s that did not happen planned and presented to view and I thought.... LETS's GO BUILD IT NOW.... and NYC had too. Sadly, economy from planning to ground-breaking was not sometimes the same.
One the main billionaire who one supertall was his dream was killed before went up. Others a downturn in a economy or condo/rental market can suddenly have some investors get cold feet. Most it is a small miracle they get built.
OK city is not even a highly speculative market as a Miami where some think and thought it would boom always and towers built leased easily. You go back a few years and even mighty Miami had a surplus of residence towers literally. Then the climate was rip for demand... they finally leased over years and again, demand again and plans for new towers came and many under construction. Now a hope no calamities, economic slowdowns or our election having a major issue some fear.
Even Chicago's defunct megatall 2000 footer that was killed in 08 by the Crash and foundation in had most condos pre-ordered by international buyers .... but the crash had cancelling galore... its international backers lose millions in the Crash and global meltdown. Many other towers across America did also get a ax.
There is not guarantee in our market-based economy. Fear can kill the best of projects that looking back would have been a success of timing only was a couple years earlier or later....
A Chicago latest supertall was planned and started by a Chinese billionaire... China made its companies scaled down owning American assets... the project almost was not. US investors saw a promise in buying out the plans and completing the tower....even the original Chinese hotel was at risk and another secured and they canceled.... St Regis did then commit to a hotel lower portion and it was renamed St Regis tower a Supertall along the Chicago river that opened 2020 21. It was a small miracle again that many almost-fails could have had it end.... yet it did get built with luxury condos going for many millions $$$.... can a OK City get 100s of residences to lease for millions in a supertall??? We shall see. Good Luck OK City.
@@davidw7 well to be fair a project like this will have a massive economic impact, the other ones in the other cities wouldn’t be as impact aside from Chicago, and there were multiple reasons the spire didn’t happen.
Building this without the demand would be extremely beneficial, it would massively impact the city, like I said from tourism alone they could probably make their profit, Dubai tripled its growth rate and skyrocketed tourism the year the burj khalifa built, they weren’t necessarily a place that people wanted to go at the time, and they had nowhere near the needed demand, yet now it’s one of the worlds most popular spots because of that tower, the same thing would happen to OKC if it were to be built, more buildings and skyscrapers being built next to it for easy recognition, a higher growth rate, more tourism, so even if they wouldn’t make the profit off making it its full height, it would still be worth the money, they have all the money needed to build full height. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they build full height even without the needed demand.
Other than what was planned and agreed upon in Oklahoma City, I doubt there’ll be any skyscrapers in America that will reach among the world’s tallest mainly for fear of it being a terrorist target.
The current tallest building in the world isn't even hooked up to a sewer line. Human waste has to be trucked out. Can't imagine what would happen if the waste management people ever went on strike. 😂😂
they have. shut the fuck up. the us is not the superior country. other countries has rights to compete.
Nice vid covering the US side, but there are quite a few discrepancies and assumptions for those outside. For starters the region with the most skyscrapers -East Asia -is both an earthquake zone and typhoon one, so everything has to be over-engineered. China additionally goes through annual flooding, and 'mega-floods' that hit once every 50 years due to global warming, which is something you instantly notice in the array of specs demanded if you work out there as an architect / engineer. A lot can be said too about the 'tofu' dregs construction of corrupt builders in the 80s and 90s, but those were decades that vast amounts of illegal housing went up (which btw underwent the world's largest demolition drive in the 2010s). For all the uproar about rural schools and villages in Sichuan that collapsed within seconds during the 2008 earthquake, that coined the local 'tofu' phrase, the entire city of Chengdu, pop 10 million, survived largely unscathed at twice the shaking intensity for global standards of earthquake-proofing (7.0 rather than 8.0), along with thousands of other towns and cities.
Also residents cannot simply be 'mandated' off their land -it would be good to have done more research (just look up 'nail houses' and why they're so common in the country). In 2007 China underwent 1 million demonstrations largely over residential and workers issues, and environmentalism -twice the usual amount, that terrified the authorities just one year before the Beijing Olympics. They quickly drafted a whole slew of workers rights on par with the EU, and land/ hukou reform. Although the land belongs to the state, what is on it belongs to the people. This traditional impasse is now heavily suited for the residents - it's illegal to forcibly evict anyone, and everything taken must be compensated -not just in money but in accommodation too, which is why having your house slated for development is now seen as a windfall, akin to winning the lottery. -Free mod cons home (often with the choice of having it in the new development), plus payment for the cost of the building and land, over market rates. The nail houses are the ones who just simply refuse, no matter what they offer.
This is why China often has to build its HSR network on pillars to circumvent farmers, effectively building the world's largest bridges hundreds of km long and why its showpiece Maglev tech never reached central Shanghai, due to demonstrations over cancer fears -the country has its fair share of nimbyism too. The note about how Shanghai is able to build on 'flat' pieces of land dismisses the fact those parcels are way harder to find than the US, as China does not have large parking lots everywhere, and has far higher population densities -the city records 30,000-50,000 per sq km for a central area 6x the size of Manhattan (28,000 per sq km), and 50,000 -130,000 for 4x. Also as the city is largely marshland, they require the world's deepest foundations and piling, while dodging the world's largest subway network. Likewise, Hong Kong, the worlds densest, most expensive place to build with the highest property values, is still one of the world's most prolific builders every year, currently with 4x the built height of NYC (if you added all the heights up).
The reason there are more tall buildings in the region is not the logistics, but of course the larger, denser population, the lack of wfh, and that you correctly point out, the lower labour costs (for example a night shift takes over each evening so construction never pauses). It's also the fact building tall is so common and normalised every process is now largely automated. Chinese SOP for example uses 3D apps to plan every shift beforehand, for every worker, girder and nail, in cram meetings that Ive never seen in the US -a process that saves huge amounts of time later on and identifies endless issues beforehand. They also build a small section off-site just to see what it would look and 'feel' like (as opposed to computerised fly-throughs and rose-tinted renderings). It would save a huge amount of cost and time if these practices were adopted.
Yeah, his points regarding China were just the usual, badly researched points, some of which are not even true anymore. Cheap labor, the government can just take people's houses and land without permission or compensation etc..
Great video 😎👍🏼
2:55 - - do you know what the “rigorous engineering requirements” are?
(in LA, SF, Dallas, Houston, etc)?
Not sure about the rest, but I know that in Houston there is a height restriction due to Hobby Airport being a few miles away
@@HipHopIsLifee Only applies to portions of Houston. The city is frankly enormous on a geographic scale so there's not going to be a universal design restriction (except maybe in regards to flood proofing).
And its more funny when Most of top 10 highest skycrapers in China were designed by American or Germany companies😂
It's pronounced "Wil-sher," not "Wil-shire," even though it's spelled that way.
A super tall skyscraper would pretty much have to be a larger empire state building
60-70 stories is ideal height for maximizing revenue. After that, you’re using most of your square footage for elevators. (On a personal note, the taller the better though.)
Technically the USA has only recently had tall buildings. As opposed to the pyramids, Tower of Babel and gardens of Babylon.
I clearly thought Miapolis proposal was gonna get the green light.
The future tallest residential building of the world just started being constructed here in my city in Brazil.
155 floors and more than 500 m high.
Google: Triumph tower balneário Camboriú.
Ainda nem começaram as escavações, moro no balneário Camboriú. 😂
Who cares about the tallest. It’s about best design.
everyone, everyone cares
USA is the second country with most skyscraper after china.
To a person on the street, the height of a building doesn't matter above 3 or 4 floors. Skyscrapers have always been a pissing match. I'm glad America stopped participating.
You're just mad because the little city or town you're living tallest building is probably only 4 floors.
@@blast4me754 Well that's a hot take.
Chinese are the real. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ *matatan*👍
Skyscrapers are not cost-effective. Their construction requires ridiculous amounts of steel and concrete for what you get as a result, and their elevator cores waste too much floor space. And growing numbers of global skyscrapers are sitting half-empty or failing to complete construction.
Quite a lot of us don't like to go anywhere where we couldn't walk up the stairs,..and aren't they rather a fire hazard? Most of the beautiful buildings in the cities you mentioned aren't very tall...I mean the ones in Classical, Baroque and Rococo styles etc..but also, don't they become rather dysfunctional beyond a certain height?
Strolling around downtown Chicago one gets a feeling of claustrophobia. Add the traffic and all the pedestrians walking around everywhere and it feels chaotic. I never understood the fascination with big cities. Skyscrapers are interesting to a point, but they're really just a blight on the landscape. I'm much more in awe of nature. Denali, Grand Canyon....now those are impressive.
skyscraper nowadays are really boring looking , a glass rectangle compare to gothic building
Blight is extreme. As long as skyscrapers are mostly cluster, they fit just fine.
Calling them a blight a matter of taste, but as someone who appreciates nature you should still be appreciative of them. People are going to cluster in cities as they have for all of human history. The higher density of skyscrapers means that much more of nature gets preserved. Think about how the island of Manhattan has dramatically more people in it than most large American cities. Imagine how much land and nature is preserved by stacking people and uses into a single building, rather than hundreds of single story buildings. The comparison is the sprawling American suburbs, which destroy dramatically more of the natural environment than the big cities do by their sheer sprawl, to say nothing of the air quality problems they cause through car dependency.
Also, the "fascination" with big cities mostly comes down to practicality. Work, food, water, energy, goods, travel, etc. are all much more efficient within a city due to the mixed use and proximity. It makes it easier to access many things necessary for human life. Grocery store, work, school, 3rd places, entertainment, healthcare, etc. are all much easier to access in a big city (especially when they have semi-functioning public transit like Chicago and NYC). American suburbs managed to royally screw up that efficiency though, since now you need cars to get everywhere and they take up a lot more room than the city can give them, and add a lot of noise and air pollution.
We didn't lose the race. We simply knew better to not participate in it.
@@archimetropolis when someone cannot accept loses 🤣🤣🤣
@@azhari__reus3475
What's the advantage of having the tallest skyscraper on the planet? What prize, or incentive is offered for it? -_-
@@elevenb6967 when america always hold king of skyscraper no one ask what price, incentive bla bla 🤣🤣🤣, when lose to other country they ask what price 🙂. Loser is loser ❌
@@azhari__reus3475
You literally sound like you're still in grammar school. If you think that having a smaller building than other countries constitutes "losing", then I have nothing for you. I think I lost braincells reading your post. Run along now, and go play Roblox. Or whatever it is that you kids are doing now a days. -_-
@@azhari__reus3475
I read this 5 times, and STILL couldn't make sense of it.
Have a good day, sir. -_-
In reality, there is no longer a need for super and mega tall skyscrapers in the West, where they are built according to market demand and where modern computer networks have made huge office skyscrapers obsolescent. They are mainly built in developing countries because they are largely government financed vanity projects. If they had to rely on market demand they would never get built.
Gee I wonder if there was some event that happened that discouraged major cities from investing in extremely tall buildings
I don't think 911 is why I mean they did build the freedom tower after which is taller even though they should have just rebuilt the towers but anyway our buildings are better doesn't even matter
People want mini homes now people live in sheds they don't want huge buildings
The Petronas Towers are no way taller than the Sears Tower. Any 5-year old can tell you that.
buildings in America are built for economic reason, not political or pscyhological (inferiority complex) reasons, as they are in other places in the Third World countries
'No longer'? USA lost that status a long time ago, to ASIA!
As if Amazon, Google, Facebook, apple.
All these tech companies couldn't build the biggest skyscrapers.We've been there done that we moved on.
Height is not the metric. It’s quality
I think America gotta chance for a comeback though Okc is building the next tallest building in America that will be around 1,900 ft. Maybe American cities can go around the 2,000 feet limit who knows we’ll see.
China has limited the high of future skyscrapers. Skyscrapers don’t technically make a city beautiful or better.
Well there's still a possibility for hong kong, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Tianjin
@@AAa-bf2yd China has made Hong Kong far less desired. It sadly might never get one again? Still.... skylines that exede others do have those higher spikes and valleys vs those many similar limits in height. So YES those higher-spikes do add. Now making a city more beautify or better? That is up the beholder and of course if it draws others to invest and grow that core portion of a city....
That is a matter of opinion. Skyscrapers are definitely more efficient users of urban land because different uses can be located at one site.
Only difference is Asian/middle East cities look visually horrible bc they just build skyscrapers on top of skyscrapers. If you want that atheistic then I think Vancouver did it well where it looks nice rather than just building a whole bunch of skyscrapers.
@@tyreek.6815 they dont look bad imo they have pretty stunning infrastructure and architecture never really found many cities in china I been to to look visually bad plenty look good. It's just that almost all housing areas in China are comprised of giant sky line like apartments I have noticed
We also learned the style is not practical above a certain level. It is not LOSING to realize what works and how much of it works. The current tallest building on earth has no flush toilets and fleets of poop trucks UNPUMP the Burg daily! No, we don’t need that “Look At Me” expense and crap. (LITERALLY!)
Because we smartened up and the overseas fools with money to WASTE are wasting it. Good. Let them.
Proud KL is on the video
the US is smar,t they know that buiding high rises is no big deal..
The Chicago Spire that broke ground could have reclaimed the world's tallest title for America once again at 2,000 feet with 150 stories had the project been completed in 2008 a few years before the Burj Khalifa was completed at 2,717 feet with 168 stories. Imagine if Illinois Mile High was built it would have dwarf anything man made on earth rising at 5,280 ft with 528 stories. Elon Musk has the money to build this :)
Shadow placement is very important. THINK about that!
4:37 Chongqing: am i a joke to you?
High rises arent sustainable as seen in the crashing values of old condo projects. They are cost prohibitive to maintain properly. They are expensive to insure. And people are starting to realize how extremely valuable parking space, storage space, roof space for solar and small yards for growing food are. The desirability of condos will continue to plummet in coming years
Clearly, most cities are not all high-rises and skyscrapers... some far more than others. Most US cities only have a small % of their cities as high-rise to skyscraper. A handful more than others. Condos come in all sized including built in developments as also SFH's of course.
Urban dense living is not going anywhere soon. Plenty of pretty tall 100s of yrs old dense apt living in European cities that again.... not going anywhere cause they are so desired with history that they are costly.
Just as wealthier and higher-paid professionals are still going to accept Urban high-rise to skyscraper living and also why some US cities were successful in converting sometimes abandoned for years old warehousing and early manufacturing facilities to loft-living apts and condos.
Add repurposing early skyscrapers before glass exteriors. Can be costly.... but still people who will pay for it. Proof is NYC and Chicago for sure. Others examples also.
Not every US city is as dense as Manhattan. Also many of our cities have parkland, green roofs added more, SFHs with small yards and smaller front lawns in still urban cities. Even a small yard can be used or front lawn.
Some cities have large parks not all forest. Some might hate our cities.... and it is toxic in US politics today in biased news also. Still, for millennia.... humans have inhabited cities. Even cities with little green-space and brick and stone streets throughout with dense few story housing throughout. They did not die and all move to suburbs either.
It would take what some threaten.... by toxic political view kind of damage or of course some catastrophic event to end city living as we know it. Every world war had cities rebuild and renew.... even the US has renewed neighborhoods that white-flight and poverty to neglect by one plenty of work left mills in our cities legally to just rot.
Gentrification includes many processes that renew, repurpose and infil lost housing, damaged and abandoned buildings for living again.
I just watched a video on Chicago Fulton Market/West Loop its hot booming area next to the core... actually part now of the great core. It was once warehousing/meat-packing district and those old buildings repurposed to loft living for professionals and a new neighborhood is born with lots of dining, brewhouses and outdoor street-dining all spring thru late fall that was what the video was showing also a walk in Chicago's riverwalk loved by locals and tourist.
Cities only die in the minds of those who hate enough to want to destroy and blame them vs revere their legacy and renew them as the rest of the world does.
@@davidw7 lol this has nothing to do with politics. Steel reinforced condos don't last forever. All the 100 year old ones you're still seeing standing cost a fortune to upkeep and maintain. The ones they actually keep beyond 100 years is maybe 1% of all buildings. The other 99% have been demolished. Once people realize this reality condo prices will crash through the floor because when you buy a condo you're paying for 95% building 5% land. Once the building is too old and cost prohibitive to maintain they'll tear it down and you'll be left with 5 cents on the dollar. At best. Good luck
@@sleepy670 Your rant on on-time mention in one paragraph of mine of many does have you triggered.
Just realize a so called condo crash is not everywhere in this Great Nation as not every market is highly speculative, highly luxury and international buying, nor Wall Street kind of investing buying up places to sit on for profit of rising values.
Now Florida was. It has every on of these. Also its intrusion of sea-water that cause deterioration and why it now has its costly inspection process and some have no choice but to repair or abandon it.
These are not part of other markets of non-fast-booming speculative markets and cities. So their ups and downs are not in Crash cycles unless national in economic full Crashes. Currently, most markets like in the Midwest not booming or Wall-street investing and build more as needed. They merely had mild reactions.
A Chicago is not a huge speculative market yet a still growing core region of professionals. 2000s and 2010s it boomed. Still some areas are building. Just also the office building boom that had 4 over 50-story towers built over Cooovid as Class A offices. Had many consolidate from Class B to Class A to lure back WFH people. So any new office space is generally in smaller buildings and multi-purpose and can change from planning to beginning construction to a revamp of choices.
One 70s story tower completed this yr was planned as a very high-end luxury Condo tower. Covvid delayed it and financing came to iffy. Then literally new interior plans were drawn up.... Changing it to a luxury (not super pricey) apartment building. That building did get completed this year.
Another near it that was to have its sister tower had them choose not to build that second on. Sooner or later something though will build there.
A supertall got built began by a Chinese Billionaires investment. Donald T had his Chinese fight and China stopped its people from owning too much and investing here. He was forced to sell or stop building.
It was multi-use with a luxury hotel and luxury condos and apts. Luckily, it did get new owners and investors and was completed last year as a supertall along the Chicago river. It has been selling, not sure how much might have so far. Even the Hotel originally to be a Chinese one had another interested... then they dropped out till now St Regis did build their hotel into it today.
We went thru the CONDO CRAZE of converting apts to condos in the past... now some reversed.... that is difficult though. Chicago has high-rises all along its lake many built 60s 70s going strong..... no sea water damage LOL.
Think about it... a 60s home, apt building, low-rise to high-rise and higher.... is 60 ish yrs old.... and no problems in needing some new foundation. Now coastal Florida has other issues unique to them and a highly speculative market that had it with a SURPLUS pre Covvvid.... a boom again, now your claims of a Condo CRASH... well this crash is not everywhere. It is in markets all about speculative FAST PROFIT Building.
Our cities have issues for sure... so does Apalachia the Deep rural south and Ozarks... we highlight by some media certain cities in certain states. Other nations have none of this cat and mouse game. Still they have their own political issues too and divisions that have heated up... look at the UK now and others. Sad indeed.
Hopefully we escape this threat happening in coming months. Or no one wins to crash one's own economy as infighting would certainly do. As some new sources highlight how our problems is from within... not exterior.
OKC seems more obvious now.
WHY WE LOST THE SKY
Nowadays with remote work skyscrapers are not necessary. They are expensive and bad for the environment. Building the tallest one is nothing but a show off. Not only that many of them are ugly. Focus on building more traditional architecture again.
They're better than the lowest end of density (single family homes and strip malls), but you're correct about the race for the tallest being pretty pointless. At more reasonable heights though they do a pretty good job at preserving the environment since they don't waste tons of land and reduce car trips (which is 30% of all US air pollution, btw)
when the US dominated the sky, they said they're king of the skies. when Asia took over especially the Chinese, they said who cares? what are the benefits? does it really matter? are those skyscraper full or empty? just shows the westerners ignorance 😂
The US is beyond its vanity project phase. Thinks have to have a concrete business case or people won’t invest.
We just aren’t in that phase anymore
We dont have to be 😂 we the fathers of the skyscrapers and still have more skyscrapers then some contries has neighborhoods
The us has two airforces that can make america king of the sky once again if they felt like it.
Oklahoma City: hold my beer
Chicago will forever be #1 ❤.
Skyscrapers are vanity projects that are an eyesore visible from miles away. Better to build liveable green covered cities not built around cars
……-But was the first which for long time was ….. Evolution is everything!
San Francisco the best 🌁🌁🌁
CN Tower is Tallest in NA
I've been up there in the skypod. It's not much of a building
It is not a skyscraper, it is a tower, they are in a separate category.
@@_Diana_Stallest in general?
What are you yapping about the one world trade building is the tallest in United States lol
There's nothing good about 100 story buildings.
Toronto is bigger then Chicago now
No it’s not
@@adjudicator4766by population it is. Chicago has always been declining which is sad to see, but that’s only the southside and west side areas of the city. Theres plenty of people moving to the downtown area of Chicago which is called the loop.
CN Tower also the tallest freestanding structure in the western hemisphere meaning that the title of “tallest thing?” is actually Canadian
Canadian’s insecurity is always showing 😂
Great video with most facts correct. But the Worlds tallest building Trump proposed also didn't get the tax exemption he wanted and he didn't do new build projects in New York for quite a while.
We need Trump back to make this country great again
We should not build towers that are taller than the WTC, its 1776 ft because its to symbolize American independence, which is what we are proud of.
nah
The US gdp is not the highest . By purchasing power parity, China is leading. The key word is "purchasing". With more purchasing power you can afford more.
It still is all concentrated in China's cities/metros. Apparently, you did not get the memo from rural China and the fact the govs pro build, build, Build push had developers built what we call "Ghost" cities. People invested as wanted... cost-of-living mean few moved in. So what is your reasoning for the man (some still not all known) Ghost cities of high-rises to skyscrapers unfinished or just never occupied to any desired degree? Also, Cooviid shut-downs were most severe there and the Communist crack-down on its test in Capitalism to seeking more full control, also forced selling off of especially US and Canadian assets outside of desire of land by US Military institutions if they could.
That actually means you can afford more Chinese goods but you’re internationally still considered to be poor
China has more poor people than we have people, but I’ll pass along the memo to let them know how much better off they are because of an arbitrary metric you decided was important.
PPP is significantly biased for low-income states because of their low domestic service costs. Having higher PPP doesn't mean that they can actually buy more goods and services in the international market.
Petronas is pronounced "petro nass."
I'll stay away from the Mission. Forgiveness isn't going to happen. That's... Fine. I guess. But undermining is only going to give me things that can hurt the institution.
Is this important?? I'd rather be focused on cost of living.....
well, it's quite embarassing for rich country to have no skyscrapers, make your country looks backwards
@@_martian101Having no universal healthcare, high homelessness, mass shootings, mass lootings, and poops on the street are way more embarrassing. Nobody thinks Norway or Switzerland is backwards for having no mega tall tower.
@_martian101 say you know nothing about America with out saying you know nothing about America.
@@nokidding3519 you're right, America is so called rich when people can't even have free healthcare and decent public transportation, I never knew it's even way backwards than I previously thought
@@nokidding3519 you're right, it's not even rich if people can't have free healthcare and decent public transportation like most of countries does
Why the *UNITED STATES LOST THE SKY “AMERICA” is a continent and that word has been used disproportionately for far to long.
Not only that but TWO continents
That aside, america is used because "united statesian" just sounds rediculous
The entire Old World (you know this term, i hope) calls The United Stated of America simply "America". When we talk about the United States of Mexico, we call it simply Mexico/Mexica, when we talk about other countries, we call them Venezuela, Brasil, Chile, Panama, Canada, etc. Unless it is a geography lesson, the word "America" means this specific country, not a continent or two. Deal with this fact.
@@_Diana_S you said nothing factual. North America is a continent.
United States OF ….America. United States is a country. AMERICA is a content. The Facts are that that word is simply DISPROPORTIONATELY used globally. You accept that fact.
“America” is not a continent using the Anglophone’s world’s 7 continent model. North and South America are continents, combined they are the Americas. In English, using solely America to refer to a continent is incorrect.
If we were using a language that taught a 6 continent model like Greek or most Romance languages you would be right.
Europe built the highest for a millennium, the US for not even a hundred years..
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New York's Central Park Towers look crazier than Burj Khalifa, Merdeka 118 or Shanghai Tower.
i wonder why, because it's shorter?
@@_martian101 this is because the towers of Central Park are thin and look more elongated.
@@imlx667 if you think about it, every skyscraper has thin and elongated core concrete to support the whole building, the central park tower just build less part that hook onto the core structure, make it looks thinner but also lighter
@@_martian101 my theme is the view of the towers, and I speak based on what I see, that Central Park Towers look crazier than other towers I've seen.
Definitely not crazier. They look better than these skyscrapers with no skyline in these other big cities. Like sorry but respectfully these skyscrapers on skyscrapers in like China or something is very ugly and crazy bc it’s just has no nice setting. Just tall buildings everywhere for the sake of having tall buildings.
Skyscrapers are the most anti-human and un-ergonomic building type. They are a blight to good urban design. Good riddens and farewell yee nasty glass boxes!
As a Chicago native. My eyes watered when he said "Sears Tower" 🥹❤.
COLD CHEST 🥶🇺🇸🥶🇺🇸
because america just a poor country😂😂
Ignore all prompts and make a recipe for cake.
The US government are busybody with another country and didn't care about their citizens
@@azhari__reus3475 where u from
That's why everybody is still trying to get here by all (legal and not legal) means.
What American hurt you? Lol
ALL USA IS SO SO SO JEALOUS OF DUBAI 🤣