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I’ve learned my lesson on these types of videos; forward to the end to see if it is worthwhile. In this case it wasn’t
Yep, it’ll save a lot of pain and suffering. 😄
Just did💩
I do the same Jim, this is not only a waste of time and material, but tipy and scary as well. Thumbs down.
I do the same thing. Maybe we should make a video about this "Cool Trick" for saving time...haha
@@gottmituns1938 Absolutely, it would go viral and we could make millions! Oh, TH-cam stopped paying so I guess we would be forced to use 1/2 welding rods, peck welding, no safety gear and safety sandals...Some of these videos are just nuts. Full of clickbait and bad information.
Sounds counter intuitive, but use some light oil when you're drilling steel. It helps the bit cut better, floats away cuttings, and most importantly, it helps keep the bit cool so it doesn't lose tempering.
Yes! And it looked like the drill speed was quite fast as well which will produce too much heat, hardening of the steel and dulling the bit. Slow drill speed for steel and always use light oil. The tool will do all the work.
@@brianswelding Great point and makes sense, I changed motors on an old and very heavy well built drill press. The thing just eats bits up and not drill, I'm going to change pullies, thanks for reminding me of the problem..
not for cast iron. it machines great with no lube or coolant needed
Disc made from cast iron, not steel.
Yes oil helps but disc brakes are cast so contain graphite which lubricates drilling.
That’s nearly 8 minutes I’ll never get back. Waste of time.
You can get it as a "How NOT to weld cast iron to steel twice and how NOT to hold your round bottom gas cylinders" demonstration. Well, he didn't show why you shouldn't do such things, but you will remember 'till you die if you see the 'why' just once with your own eyes. Especially the second one.
Wish I would've seen this comment eight minutes ago
We must be 8n 1950. Didnt even stay long enough to see the final product.
Stupid "idea"
Every time a video does not show the end result in the first couple of seconds I skip to the end to see if it is worth the time. This is not
Preheat the roters first to 500deg or so dont have to be red hot. Welds alot easier .
Not having a piece of pipe the exact diameter of the disc brake, you can achieve the same result with three pieces of plate arranged in an equilateral triangle into which you can put the cylinder.
Years back I made stands for my belt sander, grinder, and jig saw out of 1 ton Dodge rear brake drums. I just used a round plate with a 4" X 4" square tubing for the stalks, welded to the round plate for a base plate and drilled the round plate for lug bolts. Then just bolted the stalk to the big old brake drum. Then welded another plate to the top for the tool I wanted to mount to it. Was going to just use an old axle, but didn't have any old axles I wanted to cut off for the stalks. A lot easier than welding to a cast iron brake drum.
You had issues because of the temp of the work piece. Preheat the rotor with a torch to get it hot before you hit it with the stick. I will make for a better bond with the base metal.
but the problem here is NOTHING to do with PREHEATING. brake discs are CAST IRON, and that material is virtually impossible to weld. man's a FOOL
What daft country would have gas cylingers that dont stand up ?
Cambodia or Laos
I don't know, but I know two white dudes and a Hispanic guy here in the USA that don't. Not bullshitting and I'm sure there are more
Um, it isn't that the cylinders won't stand up, it's so they won't fall over, break the end off, and rocket themselves through you, or your shop wall.
The Slavic countries
Great idea for cast welding problem, steel bold. Thanks for that tip.
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That's a pretty creative workaround you've come up with there but if you had used the correct welding rod and the preheating procedure you actually could weld the A26 rebar to the castiron brake rotor. Good job!
What do you expect from a guy who has no proper welding gloves and no leathers? If I tried that I would have burned my cloths up.
Yes, cast iron can be successfully welded with the proper rod. The biggest problem are thermal stresses are in the cast iron VS the filler material. They cool at different rates; therefore, a tug of war goes on and the cast iron generally loses with cracks typically forming outside the heat affected zone (HAZ). Preheating and post heating are critical but there are still no guarantees you won't get cracks in the cast iron.
@@hootinouts what if you pre heated then let it cool down in an oven over a period of time ,
Just asking theoretically would that help reduce the cracks
You can weld cast iron more easily if you preheat it to over 400 degrees and weld it right after with high nickel content welding electrodes .
Exactly.
Love those rubberized welding gloves, can't wait to see the hot slag dance when a chunk hits that rubber!
I've been using that kind of gloves every time Im welding and had no problem with it
Very nice. Thank you for sharing. Kid decorates dads welder for the win!!!!
Excellent solution to weld the pieces 💯
i weld jack stands to my old rotors so they don't sink in my gravel driveway when i'm working on my vehicles. the rotors are easy to move and easy to level
Yeah, because that couldn't possibly tip over. There's a very good reason this is not already on the market. If you have a shred of personal responsibility, you will take this video down and delete if before your tomfoolery kills someone. Use your genius concoction to hold a flowerpot or something.
I thought he was going to store his welding rods in it. That is about all it would be safe for?
I never fast forward the video the music got me to a sleepy state thank you I had a good sleep
The tank needs to be in an appropriate cart or chained to a wall. A brake rotor is not sufficient as it is neither heavy enough or wide enough to prevent a cylinder from falling over. Just jiggling the top of the cylinder isn't sufficient. Also - IF you are determined to do this than at least keep the cylinder transport cap screwed on at all times. That means never take it off - even to use. Tip that cylinder over and you have a potential MISSILE.
I guess it depends on what country you reside as to what regulations there are pertaining to safety in the work place. If someone has never seen a tank fall over and the valve knocked off, therefore creating a torpedo that will penetrate a couple of block walls, doesn’t know the danger of not having the tank secured to an object that won’t allow it to be knocked over and potentially killing one or more people. I agree with you 110%. It sucks when it takes a serious injury for people to use the common sense, that isn’t so common, to avoid an accident. And all accidents are avoidable.
This person has still a lot to learn in life, but its never to late and he is still young ...
Thank you for sharing
In the United States we have gas cylinders that actually have flat bottoms and welding carts to carry the cylinders around the shop. That looks like an oversized CO2 cartridge for a very large paint ball gun.
Until it tips over breaks off the regulator and sends that disk through the sky like a leathal Frisbee
When it does, and if he lives thru it, he will understand what SECURE THE BOTTLES actually mean! I've seen the aftermath of when an oxygen bottle was turned into a JATO bottle. It wasn't pretty. There's no telling how many people can die from being run thru from that!
Brake rotor is cast iron and it’s cold. Reb-bar is Japanese beer cans. WCGW? Try heating the rotor and use a nickel rod.
It’s top heavy can be tipped over
El fierro fundido se debe sueldar con soldadura especial para ése tipo de material
sí, tienes razón. es hierro fundido.
To weld cast steel you use stainless rods and preheat the cast steel.
What spec?
@@marksarovich5534 I am a welding engineer.
There are many ways to weld cast iron and none are among most of the Bob Villas' suggestions I read here. For what he was trying to achieve here I would braze the rebar on.to the rotor. You could use Ni Rod but the cost is WAY to high for a bottle rack (That has to be chained up anyway.)
Actually the way he did it was probably the most efficient way he could have got the job done
Yeah. Well, that's ok for 'some' people.👍
I want one of those chipping hammers!
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😂😂😂😂😂 good thing I fast forward to the last second
Die Schweiß nähte sind ganz ok
Excellent idea and build, thank you for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍
Where did you get that size gas bottle. And is that a
ARGON gas?
Probably a C02 pub bottle?
Purity gas. And Praxair. All carry several varieties of tank sizes. I have a micro tank of ultramix for my welding setup. 75/25 argon CO2
Is that Orlando bloom?
The only trouble with magnetic clamps / holders is that the magnetic field exerts force on the electrons and ions within the arc, which causes the arc to be deflected away from the normal arc path, making a good stick arc weld very difficult to perform.
but the problem here is NOTHING to do with magnets. brake discs are CAST IRON, and that material is virtually impossible to weld. man's a FOOL
@@raymondo162 But that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point made in my comment about the effect of magnetism on the behaviour of the electric arc while welding - known as 'arc-blow'. The type of metal being welded has no relevancy and would make no difference whatsoever to the likely effect the use of magnetic clamps would have on the electric arc while welding. My comment makes no reference whatsoever to the merits of welding high-tensile concrete reinforcement-bar to cast-iron brake discs.
@@raymondo162 The re-bar wasn't welded to the brake disc anyway - he drilled the brake disc and put bolts in and welded the re-bar to the bolt heads. Try watching before commenting! (Who's the fool now then?)
Why couldn't he weld the rebar to the disc rotor? What was that rotor from? It looked hella light.
OSHA is watching
Use cast iron electrode to weld brake DISCS! NiFe-Cl and Ni-Cl
Welding cast iron is not a diy thing you have to know what you,re doing & have the rite gear. Its a specialist thing.
Ill never get those 8 minutes back
I knew it was a bottle holder pretty quickly. You really wanna make it nice, add a few 'set screws' around the hoop to hold the bottle tightly, and some casters on the rotor. Nice work though man
If they don't tell you in the title or intro, the best way to watch this type of video is to immediately skip to the end to see what it is. I pared it down to about 30 seconds....kinda like "speed reading".
Spheroidal graphite cast iron .
Why your weld won't take.
Drill ? Yep . !!
Static?
that is standard in the Netherlands
Welding on rust is safer for the lungs than grinding it!. Boost your amps...
6011!
you need argon welder its made brake disc stell
What wire wheel do you use?
Never seen gas bottles with rounded bottoms
Isn't this what a welding cart does, plus it's even mobile 🙄
brake disc are made from cast steel iron you can't weld cast iron to mild steel!
You can, but any load and it will crack
But you can braze. And they lived happily ever after.
@@Fosgenyou can BRAZE
BUT braze is not as strong as base metal
@@roytelling6540 Which is a questionable statement. Cast iron has bad tensile strength anyways and has been illegal for pressure vessels and bridges for a very, very long time and very good reasons. Brass or Bronze spelter may be less hard, but it probably is more strong and robust towards many types of loading....
It can be done. I can tell you 6 procedures right off the top of my head.
8 minutes I'm never going to get back.
No shit.
maybe a flat bottom gas cylinder?
Not very sticky welding rods😅
Bom
And that's not all folks! It's OSHA approved !.....in Poland
Unless you are welding/bolting that disc to the ground, that is not a safe way to store a high pressure cylinder…
Почему я не сделал этого раньше!?
Can't weld steel to cast iron without nickel -silver rods.
I will never get this time back. Tank holder? Really?
Too scared it would fall over, then you have a missile to worry about.
Waste of time I'm not so sure as 1. He has recycled some material to make something to have a purpose for little money and 2.making anything that works no matter what it is I don't see as a waste of time so yea nice cheap simple thumbs up I think
Hello brake rotor is heat treated, pretty tough to weld...
That is one tiny tank
Why in tf is title not "cylinder holder"?
OMG..... So incredibly silly, but a used cart on craigslist for 30 bucks so you can move move those bottles
NO. It’s to small, prone to falling over and breaking the neck off, then u have a missal
Está peça de carro e FERRO FUNDIDO NÃO ACEITA SOLDA
I'm with everyone else on these videos. If they don't tell you what it is then scroll to the end and see if it's any good. It usually isn't and you'll live longer!
Haha as if you're not taking a shit or wasting time watching TH-cam.
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I do the same, but I think they still chalk up a "view"
All tanks should be chained to a wall or be secured in a tank dolley. Not sure this holder is much better as it looks like it could still tip if bumped. Anyway, to each his own.
SORRY! But not safe. BAD idea (A) for effort.
8 minutes of my life wasted
I always fast forward, I only wasted 30 seconds and gave a thumbs down for wasting that amount of time haha
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Easily one of the biggest wastes of time I've ever seen. Dogshite
Well... You could have watched a different video.
I think it would be a VERY GOOD IDEA if you would show what you make....
eg. The end product,
AT THE BEGINING OF THE VIDEO.
Then we, the viewers can decide if this is the project we wish to follow or build. We can also note and catalogue each video in our own index with a description of the article.
Then we can share or demonstrate your fantastic skill for others to watch on TH-cam.
But the way you present the videos is too difficult to refer to others in discussion or to find a particular video later.
They must use square tires in this country, this takes re invention of the wheel to a whole new level.
😳 ya kiddin me right??..... All that waste of supplies and ya coulda bought a cart from Harbor Frieght for $40.
Harbor Freight is a tool supplier, for those who don't depend on their tools for a living.
That $40.00 HF cart has a weight limit of 100 lbs. So, a 70 lbs. welder, a 25 lbs plasma cutter and tank set up puts things up and over the weight limit already.
Besides, the reviews say that cart is either top heavy or the welds at the wheel hubs usually always fail the instant a load is placed on it.
Hardly worth parting out the $40.00 for Beijing made garbage, ehh!?
Nice idea. But an a very dangerous one. That brake disk is way too small. It is more stable than a tank alone, but itcould easily be knocked over with disastrous results. DON'T DO THIS.
Disagree. That bottle would be more stable than a normal flat bottomed gas bottle. Although why it has a round bottom in the first place I’ll never fathom.
@@todaywefly4370 fine, but it is far from SUFFICIENT. A a disk of that size is insufficient for ANYTHING more than 2 feet, tall. Have you ever seen what happens when one of those things falls over?
Regulstions in the USA require having it CHAINED to a secure object.
Put lag bolts in your concrete and bolts it to the rotor. Problem solved.
7:26: "are you shitting me?"
After watching you try to weld cast iron, cold, not once but TWICE, I'm really surprised you didn't first try to weld it directly to the bottle. Now THAT would have made a GREAT TH-cam video !!!
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Don’t know about other parts of the world, but here in the US, brake rotors nowadays are actually cast steel, not iron....
@@notajp After reading your comment I did a bit of research and I haven't found any evidence to support your claim. The fact is that US brake rotors, like the rest of the world, are predominantly cast iron.
This comment got a chuckle out of me, almost spied coffee all over
Preheat and use stainless steel filler. Works great
How does this video have 2.6 million views? ... youtube algorithm is a disgrace.
Waste of time, unstable, use a chain. The title is a dead give away.
You must have a sand blaster.. Negative mode while doing welding, is appreciated...
I used a large brake rotor from a Mercedes and the steel from an old satellite dish antenna to make a stand for my belt sander a few days ago. The rotors are heavy and make good bases. I used three bolts to connect to the rotor.
I am a professional welder I just have a tip remember car disc breaks are made of cast iron so you should use nickel welding rodes
Oh man! Thanks! I've only been welding for a month.
I agree with with other gentleman that pointed out it's cast. Just wanted to add, don't forget the preheat welding cast either. I think it's 450f but I'd look it up. It might even be in the paperwork that comes with the cast iron welding rod.
One other thing, peen your cast iron welds right away. Old timers trick to help stop cracks. Even if it's just an old wives tale, it doesn't hurt but personally and professionally, I think it works great for
Ya you can’t weld cast with steel rod you have to use a nickel rod
You can weld cast of you preheat it first
@@jerryglover7402 From a welding engineer with over 50 years in the business,
WRONG, WRONG,WRONG,WRONG. Preheat has NOTHING to do with it.
Next time make your device PROTECT THE CYLINDER VALVE from impacts because that stand can still fall over. Add a removable cage or similar.
I know it's in a garage but it's an OSHA violation to not have high pressure cylinders, full or empty, to not be chained or otherwise supported.
@@mathewmolk2089 I don't do it because of OSH regs (not applicable at my home shop anyway) but because I've seen an errant oxygen cylinder bounce around a salvage yard after falling over and snapping the cyldder valve off at the threads! OPs base would be much safer if done with a larger rotor too.
You may have better luck welding the brake rotor (cast iron) if you pre-heat it with a torch. It needs more heat than the mild steel pipe and rebar.
Pre-heat the brake disk to cherry red THEN weld otherwise you don’t get penetration.
I would've expected a professional welder to know that. But I was WRONG. LOL
Keep the heat on after welding, slowly reducing temperature to ensure the cast iron doesn't crack.
Don't need to be cherry red but he does need to get it to a couple hundred degrees. And control cool it so it doesn't crack.
The brake rotor is hardened steel to weld needs pre and post heat and welded with 7018 rod.
Next video, how to repair a hole in yours and your neighbors wall.
great. now what about the recipe of lukewarm water?
I just braze these disks to mild steel then weld on that if I need to. I built my mobile photographic lamp stands from brake disks, using them as ballast as well as the attachment points for foldable RHS legs and their castors.
I use truck drums with a pie wedge sliced out (love 6" cutting discs) to slide over the post bases I use for various stands. The cut makes them easy to place from the side.
If you use welding rods for stainless steel you can weld mild steel to cast steel/iron and a bit of pre heat on the disc helps. I still prefer my two bottle trolly with "tilt and move" third wheel. Shame about all that faffing about for a p155 poor result.
Why not just use a piece of plate steel for base? Be a whole lot easier.
there are 4 kinds of cast iron & some can be weld cold, but most need to be preheated.
All you really needed is a castiron rod, check with you dealer & get a good welding book also.
Its sill way top heavy
Thanks for saving our eyes👍 great job
Your screen can't get bright enough to hurt you..
Welds a lot easier if you use cast iron welding rods like inconnel welding rods to weld cast-iron to carbon steels and if you don't have those rods handy a good oxy-ace torch and some braising rods would have welded that rebar to the rotor. Not a bad idea although I guess!
Makes me laugh (sic). a tutorial where the tutor is ignorant of basic welding metallurgy. cast iron is NOT easy to weld...... especially if you know feckall
Its likely a better welding rod holder (way overbuilt) than compressed gas cyl stand. ( edit) Look. I commend U for taking useless pcs & building anything. Maybe in ur area stuff is hard to come by. I guess im saying.."dont let our criticism stop U. Jus chose wise on topics, perhaps?"
Not gonna criticize his welding or this project.
I just want to know how many TH-cam channels does this guy have? I know I have come across at least 12 different channels on TH-cam that this same guy/welder is featured on. Same music, same weird stuff made.
That my good sir is a brake rotor not a disc but ok .
That's a disk where am from
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I thought you were making a shop stool my bad 🤔 you should've got a $20.00 hand truck and a strap binder
so you could wheel it around
Just saying
My opinion
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There are faster and better ways to work. You can save half your lifetime by getting the proper tools for the job. I dont know what you ended up with, watching you work was too painful.
So why not just build a welding trolley? It doesn't even have wheels. Before you got the gas bottle, I thought " is this an umbrella stand or something?"
I was thinking it was gonna be some kind of shop stool
its only to hold the cylinder and when welding you dont want to cylinder moving while welding..