I really appreciate your contribution to men’s lives. Speaking for myself I’ve rediscovered my wardrobe and am dressing better even on casual outings, for the first time in years. I’d be interested in seeing you do a video on the contemporary Canadian shoe making legend John Fluevog. Also on the the Mr. Maxwell tailors trunk show based out of Hong Kong
As a 5th generation cobbler I loved this video. To appreciate the craftsmanship put into ones attire is to be proud of what you wear and to be more confident in it.
I picked up my JL Prestige line black cap-toe oxfords for a fraction of what they retail for, through being shelf models, the prestige line with the seamless back is one of those details I have never seen on other RTW shoes and find them superior in many ways to my G&G's and Edward green's, however they're not very far off.
gorgeous shoes! I spotted a black pair made in the 1930s for a South American client. They said the glossy look was from boning them for fifty years. I did.not have that commitment.
I'm 56 and have always had very wide feet, now requiring purchase from specialty builders, and I have a warning for your younger viewers; prioritize your feet. If you have to budget on your wardrobe, don't skimp on your footwear. Quality, well made, professionally fitted shoes will prevent problems later in life, and if you have ANY size, shape, or leg irregularities, should be thought of as a necessity on the same level as corrected vision and dental care. Before you spend one hour in discomfort due to wearing those ill-fitting but ultra spec kicks you picked up for spit on the mark down rack, consider the actual loss of income, status, and position a week on your back due to something like turf toe or plantar fasciitis can cause at age 40. It gets worse from there; even with surgery, most foot debilities will have to be thought of as chronic, recurring situations- very unpredictable ones at that.
Antonio Meccariello makes gorgeous shoes. Even his RTW is better than John Lobb RTW. His shoes are a bit more sophisticated and daring than John Lobb too. Definitely if you’re in the market for bespoke, Antonio Meccariello near Napoli in Italy is one of the best. I’d also mention people like Tony Gaziano in England, Pierre Corthay in Paris, Stefano Bemer in Florence, Saint Crispin in Romania, and Norman Vilalta in Spain.
@@Nathan_Wright highly recommend Stefano Bemer. They have a flagship in NYC now and the experience is fantastic. Tommaso has great taste and is a wonderful guy to talk to.
10, 000 for a shoe is an interesting price point. I am perfectly happy with Allen Edmonds for business such as appearances in court as an expert witness or meeting with attorneys, and running shoes or franken shoes for casual wear when I am plan on doing a lot of walking. You might want to do more on active wear. People who are into more expensive clothes are probably also interested in fitness. I certainly am.
I recall purchasing the canvas slip on sneakers from KMart in the 80s and 90s for $4 a pair. Even with inflation, I'm trying to imagine what elements of build and material would amount to $745 for a pair.
i have many brands of bespoke shoes, but theJohn Lobb Paris make my foot feel better than a;y other bespoke shoe. The John Lobb Paris bespoke shoe makes my foot feel as if it is being held up by a cradle. The middle pary of the foot feels as if it is being held up! the feel almost like the shoe facilitates your lifting your foot off the ground.I have 10 of theirbespoke shoes. When I had them make me booys they actually consulted orthopedic people and put s brace on 1 side of the leg part of the boot. By the way, the John Lobb ready made heel is the best construction of multiple layers of real leather- the best construction of any heel
They are beautiful shoes, but no shoe is worth it if it doesn't fit. Unfortunately, most shoe makers think all men have the same width feet. If you have bunions, forget finding any dress shoe that will fit. Even sneakers are a problem. Thankfully I now live in a warm climate and wear sandals pretty much all year round. My feet have never felt better.
I've owned leather shoes from brands like Allen Edmonds to Cobbler Union to Vass and John Lobb. John Lobb's leather quality is nowhere near the best. It can be considered great at most with Allen Edmonds being good. The best I've seen so far have been Foster & Son RTW and this one shoe from Ferragamo's Tramezza line.
I'm a beginning collector/wearer, but I'm surprised Ferragamo is considered high-tier. I've always put them amongst Gucci/Prada, where you're mostly paying for brand with less favorable methods of construction.Foster & Sons seems to be good value.
Not sure if you heard of the brand Cobbler's Union. They're an Atlanta brand that does the fiddle back bottom on their rtw shoes for around the same price as Carmina.
THANKS for the video!! PS: I "Graduated" to AE about 15 years ago and I really cannot even consider buying anything else (nothing less expensive...nothing more expensive).
John Lobb is a legacy brand. Definitely overpriced and the information on their website is thin. I get my shoes handwelted, tapered heel, fiddlewaist, MTO for $600 if you know where, you know where and yes I can afford JL bespoke - just dont see value there
You have exposed them. They capitalize too much on the fact they belong to Hermès. They good but definitely not $1500 good. For the quality you get, I’d say they are worth $850
I'm sure many watching your videos are familiar with Kirby Allison. I really appreciate how you're much more realistic and honest than Kirby when it comes to reviewing "luxury" brands. Thank you for cutting open a very expensive pair of shoes so we can all learn from it!
After seeing their glued construction loafers on Kirby Allison's channel for over $600, I confirmed my suspicion that they are very overrated. There is no shortage of better quality shoes from other makers.
@@Aggnog except that Rolex is not to be opposed to John Lobb. Rolex is Gucci among watches, an expensive fashion brand, nothing else. John Lobb is a shoemaker of high-quality shoes. I know you want to believe in Raphael's (quite negative) review simply because you cannot afford a pair of John Lobbs. However, you are not even ware of the fact that Raphael applies criteria in his review that are not applicable to a "classic" British shoe like a fiddle waist or fancy lasts, colours, and patinas (Gaziano & Girling is not a classic brand at all, btw). The primus of British clothing style is understatement. This is perfectly embodied by John Lobb. As for the quality, John Lobb shoes are perfectly Ok, they are of the same quality level as Crockett & Jones. So, it will take you quite an effort to wear them to death. As for the price, a pair of Crockett & Jones shoes costs a half of what's the price of a John Lobb pair. It's up to you to choose between these brands. Or you can go to a local shoemaker as Raphael suggest. But desperately try to believe in bad quality of John Lobb shoes is simply ridiculous as it has nothing to do with the reality. And yes, it's a very particular feeling if you go along a street wearing a pair of simply looking sandals, but you are the only one who knows they are from John Lobb. You basically wear them for yourself, not for others.
Best value for quality to price ratio remains Crockett and Jones. At this price range for English RTW, Gaziano & Girling or Edward Green are far better.
When I heard thermoplastic, I was surprised. I probably won't be able to tell the difference wearing them but at that price range I did not expect a plastic stiffener.
These are still mass-produced, ready-made shoes. If you are prepared to spend that kind of money on such, you should be able to go the extra expense of bespoke made-to -measure shoes. There is NO comparison.
I prefer my Crockett & Jones. I'll stick to them. Crockett & Jones is very expensive. I purchased two pairs of the Tetbury Chukka boot one in black and another pair in brown @ $650.00 a pop. The James Bond boot Daniel Craig wore in the opening of the movie SkyFall. Great boot looks very sharp. I'll stick with Crockett & Jones. I had purchased Crockett & Jones she tree's they come seperate also pricey too.
To me the best rtw value brand is TLB Mallorca and their artista line. They offer some beatiful shoes with some qualitues you would usually only find in bespoke shoes.
I handled a pair of lobb RTW in a store. If I recall they were approximately 2k. I think there are better quality shoes out there at only half the price. Would never buy a pair of these
That's why I like your channel more than Kirby Allison's He never speak any bad things about overpriced brand such as John Lobb and he called them review
@@mikemacheese7174 What he means is he calls the videos reviews, even though they are just a 10minute long fawn over some shoes he got for free that he hasn't even worn once.
If one divides how much you pay for a expensive shoe , by the days of a year. It could equal how much people pay for a fancy cup of coffee daily. So I think it could be worth it.👞
Excellent “is it worth it” video. You always gives honest reviews, detailing the plus and minus features of the product. That’s why I look at your videos mad not TH-camrs that always gives rave reviews.
Having had bespokes made at the St James’s branch, I’d say steer clear and go to Gaziano & Girling instead. A friend of mine had exactly the same disappointing experience. The measurements were poor and I had to press for a remake (the shoes still don’t fit properly). The prices are astronomical and the styles old-fashioned. You don’t even get shoe trees unless you pay $1000 extra. Avoid.
They're not. They're in the same boat as john lobb. For the same amount of money, you can find much better quality shoes. They are nice, they're just not so nice that they're worth what they ask. You are paying a lot for the name
Berluti is all about the quality of the leather and patina. Construction is very commonly used Blake stitch. So if you like the look of patina, you can get a lot out of your money from other smaller brands out of Spain and Italy or even patina artists. Andres Sendra is a brand out of Spain who has very unique patina styles, also Altan Bottier out of France. Then you have many makers from Italy like Paolo Scafora, Antonio Meccariello, etc who can make anything you want
Berluti shoes used to be produced by Stefano Branchini (I don't know who's producing them now, though). I haven't had any Berlutis in my hands or on my feet, as they are too pricey for me. But I confirm that Stefano Branchini and StefanoBi (another Branchini brand) are of an extremely high quality. I personally adore StefanoBi shoes.
Hello, I just discovered your channel, it's very interesting and seems objective. Thank you for this overview of John Lobb models that I tended to put a little above everything else, if only because of the price positioning. I completely agree with you about shapes, luxury brands generally offer several to suit different morphologies (apart from made-to-measure, of course). I have to admit that the John Lobb ready-to-wear range has a number of coarse details. What shocked me most: the brand doesn't even offer half sizes Hello, Hello, I just discovered your channel, it's very interesting and seems objective. Thank you for this overview of John Lobb models that I tended to put a little above everything else, if only because of the price positioning. I completely agree with you about shapes, luxury brands generally offer several to suit different morphologies (apart from made-to-measure, of course). I have to admit that the John Lobb ready-to-wear range has a number of coarse details. What shocked me most: the brand doesn't even offer half sizes ! All this seems to illustrate that the brand is over-priced because of its prestigious origins, a bit like when Boss in its day expanded into the mass market, the basic quality was no longer assured and the seams didn't hold. Well, that's not the case here, but thanks to you we can see that lesser-known and slightly less expensive brands are doing better in this respect. Thanks for clarifying things for me. ❤
I'm a bit more broke I know you can't make great things on a huge budget but does anyone have a recommendation where I can find a size 13 shoe of decent quality for around 500 dollars?
Allen Edmonds if you want American made. Cobbler’s Union is pretty good for below that price range. Plenty of mid-range brands making great boots in that price range
500 is the sweet spot before you get diminishing of return in my opinion. Check out TLB Mallorca, Carmina, Cobbler Unions, Carlos Santos, Septeim Larguer and Vass.
John Lobb are great shoes, especially Lopez loafers. They fit perfect and comfy, compared to other Northampton shoes like Edward Green or Girling. If you can afford one invest in Lopez, personal recommendations
edward green,gaziano girling in the UK and handwelted shoes out of UK like saint crispins and many many chinese and indonesian makers are much better value.
John Lobb shoes are made in an ordinary shoe factory in Northampton. They must NOT be confused with John Lobb Bespoke; a different ball game entirely……you really are “paying for the label” with this ready to wear brand. Please don’t waste your money……🇬🇧
Wow when I saw the john lobb city 2 next to the allen edmonds park ave I thought the john lobb shoe looked way cheaper like something you would find at cole haan lol I guess I have bad taste cause john lobb is way more expensive.
If you're young and think this person has a clue what he's talking about, consider he is wearing corduroy with seersucker. Distinctly winter jacket and tie with distinctly summer trouser. A wale and stripe of similar scale. He's clearly confused, even before you get to the clownish boutonniere... Just read Permanant Style and save yourself.
Looks more expensive than an Allen Edmonds?? Yeah, it better!! AE’s are fine shoes, but there’s no illusion of them being in the 4 figure threshold. Comparing to Carmina or Churches would have been more relative for that cap-toe Oxford
There is something this gentlemen did not notice: the quality of leathers and hardware (gold, palladium, silver …) They source them from their mother company: Hermès which controls the best leather of the world and reproduce the best hardware piece for bags and shoes.
I have a pair of Church’s brogues and a pair of monk strap Edward Green’s in addition to some prestige John Lobb monk strap shoes - I sincerely mean this when I say that the quality of leather, the comfort of the shoe and the contruction overall is better on the JL’s than the Churchs or Edward Greens - yes the price the higher than both, but there’s something special about the JLs that I don’t feel in the other two big name British shoemakers.
Hi, Raphael and team. Gosford Park (a film set in a 1930s English country house) recently arrived on Netflix. I noticed that you had a short review on the film from all the way back in 2011 (!) but you omitted to discuss the outfits worn by Ryan Phillippe’s character Henry Denton after his outing as a Hollywood actor. I wonder if you might revisit the production and take a look at these wonderful menswear items. If you could find ready-to-wear garments for sale so that we could re-create these outfits that would be even better. Many thanks. Your work is very much appreciated.
I have had good luck with J. FitzPatrick for a style-forward high quality shoe. They have one called Magnolia that's in the same ballpark as that City II. I own a pair along with 2 other styles. All have been of a high quality.
the leather sole is the best quality of shoes or boots , I love all leather boots ! leather sole has my casadei boots, and gianvito rossi, also atribute london but NOT PRADA boots, so I am so disappointed
That's because it is Newcastle upon Tyne. The image was taken from the Illustrated London News 14th July 1866 and depicts a sculling race between Henry Kelley of England and James Hamill an American on the river Tyne. There were two races over two days each worth £250. Henry Kelley won both races.
@@gentlemansgazette Easy mistake to make. Well it made a change from showing the Houses of Parliament😉. Your videos are great and I always look forward to them.
I am glad that you are mentioning the brand name of your outfits because it is helping me in planning what to buy next. I am actually looking at purchasing some trousers from Berle, but I'm curious about how well they fit because my quads and seat limits my options in trousers.
Of course they’re not really worth it, you’re buying the brand. (Which there’s nothing wrong with) personally I buy some shoes that are less known/better made/value, then I also totally buy some things “because it’s a _____” both offer different things that I covet. Something like the Gucci bit loafer comes to mind with the latter.
Depends on how you define “worth”. If you see worth as social worth, then absolutely not worth it. 99.9% of population has never heard of it. Quality wise there are many other quality brands that cost much less. To me I only accept brand premium for brands like Rolex, Hermes or Louis Vuitton because they bring social worth. Not John Lobb.
I'm well versed in the handmade, bespoke St. James area of London from the Cheney shoes ASMR video... Ahhh, my youtube world's are colliding. Maurice Sedwell suits for war next? Actually a series looking at the various ASMR fashion videos would be amusing. What better way for the refined, menswear enthusiast to relax or sleep then the dulcet tones Maurice Sedwell expounding on his signature style... Again...
Well if it is my business and the business pays for the shoes, the business cannot pay me that money. Yes it is an expense, and I would have to pay taxes on earnings the business paid to myself, but it is still money I could have used for personal use. But we decided we wanted to do it so you don't have to
I really appreciate your contribution to men’s lives. Speaking for myself I’ve rediscovered my wardrobe and am dressing better even on casual outings, for the first time in years. I’d be interested in seeing you do a video on the contemporary Canadian shoe making legend John Fluevog. Also on the the Mr. Maxwell tailors trunk show based out of Hong Kong
As a 5th generation cobbler I loved this video. To appreciate the craftsmanship put into ones attire is to be proud of what you wear and to be more confident in it.
“$8,000 . . . without shoe trees.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Well, that’s a deal breaker for me. ☝️🥴👎
I picked up my JL Prestige line black cap-toe oxfords for a fraction of what they retail for, through being shelf models, the prestige line with the seamless back is one of those details I have never seen on other RTW shoes and find them superior in many ways to my G&G's and Edward green's, however they're not very far off.
gorgeous shoes! I spotted a black pair made in the 1930s for a South American client. They said the glossy look was from boning them for fifty years. I did.not have that commitment.
I'm 56 and have always had very wide feet, now requiring purchase from specialty builders, and I have a warning for your younger viewers; prioritize your feet.
If you have to budget on your wardrobe, don't skimp on your footwear. Quality, well made, professionally fitted shoes will prevent problems later in life, and if you have ANY size, shape, or leg irregularities, should be thought of as a necessity on the same level as corrected vision and dental care. Before you spend one hour in discomfort due to wearing those ill-fitting but ultra spec kicks you picked up for spit on the mark down rack, consider the actual loss of income, status, and position a week on your back due to something like turf toe or plantar fasciitis can cause at age 40. It gets worse from there; even with surgery, most foot debilities will have to be thought of as chronic, recurring situations- very unpredictable ones at that.
Well said Floyd. I'm 58 and have had P F. Good quality shoes are a must. I look after my feet much more the older I have got
Antonio Maccariello is still alive and makes some of the most beautiful shoes I’ve seen
They also carry very nice summer socks from Stemeso for a much better price than most luxury socks. They are on sale on their own website too.
Antonio Meccariello makes gorgeous shoes. Even his RTW is better than John Lobb RTW.
His shoes are a bit more sophisticated and daring than John Lobb too. Definitely if you’re in the market for bespoke, Antonio Meccariello near Napoli in Italy is one of the best. I’d also mention people like Tony Gaziano in England, Pierre Corthay in Paris, Stefano Bemer in Florence, Saint Crispin in Romania, and Norman Vilalta in Spain.
@@Nathan_Wright highly recommend Stefano Bemer. They have a flagship in NYC now and the experience is fantastic. Tommaso has great taste and is a wonderful guy to talk to.
10, 000 for a shoe is an interesting price point. I am perfectly happy with Allen Edmonds for business such as appearances in court as an expert witness or meeting with attorneys, and running shoes or franken shoes for casual wear when I am plan on doing a lot of walking.
You might want to do more on active wear. People who are into more expensive clothes are probably also interested in fitness. I certainly am.
I don't have much interest in high end dress shoes but jeez that was an interesting video, thanks.
Loved the video, you should do J.M. Weston & Carmina next !
I recall purchasing the canvas slip on sneakers from KMart in the 80s and 90s for $4 a pair. Even with inflation, I'm trying to imagine what elements of build and material would amount to $745 for a pair.
John Lobb Paris are well made, but they don’t do wide fittings. If you need a G or GG you’ll need to look at one of the other makers like Grenson.
i have many brands of bespoke shoes, but theJohn Lobb Paris make my foot feel better than a;y other bespoke shoe. The John Lobb Paris bespoke shoe makes my foot feel as if it is being held up by a cradle. The middle pary of the foot feels as if it is being held up! the feel almost like the shoe facilitates your lifting your foot off the ground.I have 10 of theirbespoke shoes. When I had them make me booys they actually consulted orthopedic people and put s brace on 1 side of the leg part of the boot. By the way, the John Lobb ready made heel is the best construction of multiple layers of real leather- the best construction of any heel
They are beautiful shoes, but no shoe is worth it if it doesn't fit. Unfortunately, most shoe makers think all men have the same width feet. If you have bunions, forget finding any dress shoe that will fit. Even sneakers are a problem. Thankfully I now live in a warm climate and wear sandals pretty much all year round. My feet have never felt better.
I've owned leather shoes from brands like Allen Edmonds to Cobbler Union to Vass and John Lobb.
John Lobb's leather quality is nowhere near the best. It can be considered great at most with Allen Edmonds being good. The best I've seen so far have been Foster & Son RTW and this one shoe from Ferragamo's Tramezza line.
I'm a beginning collector/wearer, but I'm surprised Ferragamo is considered high-tier. I've always put them amongst Gucci/Prada, where you're mostly paying for brand with less favorable methods of construction.Foster & Sons seems to be good value.
@@TheNunakun Only the highest end Tramezza shoes are of high quality. Not that you can consider them good value though.
Not sure if you heard of the brand Cobbler's Union. They're an Atlanta brand that does the fiddle back bottom on their rtw shoes for around the same price as Carmina.
Of course, part of our collection
THANKS for the video!! PS: I "Graduated" to AE about 15 years ago and I really cannot even consider buying anything else (nothing less expensive...nothing more expensive).
_ Rafael, ¿who is the woman making shoes in this video? ¡Please!. I want to know. Cheers, from Argentina.-
If I'm paying over $2k for a shoe, it better fit me perfectly the first time around.
I like berlutti more, i only own the J. Lobb sneakers, but their shoes look too traditional for me.
Raphael is wearing a pinky ring to take apart a shoe. Ridiculous.
What brand would you recommend for some nice balmorals?
John Lobb is a legacy brand. Definitely overpriced and the information on their website is thin. I get my shoes handwelted, tapered heel, fiddlewaist, MTO for $600 if you know where, you know where and yes I can afford JL bespoke - just dont see value there
Vass?
I think it's worth it 🙋🏻♂️🥇
Do your tie knot correctly.
No is not
You have exposed them. They capitalize too much on the fact they belong to Hermès. They good but definitely not $1500 good. For the quality you get, I’d say they are worth $850
I can get full bespoke shoes for 1000€ here in Vienna.
1500 is a joke to be fair.
really hard to hear you in this video
They are way overpriced
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I'm sure many watching your videos are familiar with Kirby Allison. I really appreciate how you're much more realistic and honest than Kirby when it comes to reviewing "luxury" brands. Thank you for cutting open a very expensive pair of shoes so we can all learn from it!
After seeing their glued construction loafers on Kirby Allison's channel for over $600, I confirmed my suspicion that they are very overrated. There is no shortage of better quality shoes from other makers.
They definitely are extremely well made shoes. But the price is also not only for the product. Its for the provenance the brand carries.
@@Nav-nj9xx yes, exactly. Not to mention quality and scarcity of the leathers used.
Knowing that you wear a pair of John Jobbs is priceless. It's not a suspicion, it's experience.
@@blackMZworld I mean you can say the same about a Rolex if that's your thing, but I'd rather get a better watch than an overpriced rolex.
@@Aggnog except that Rolex is not to be opposed to John Lobb. Rolex is Gucci among watches, an expensive fashion brand, nothing else. John Lobb is a shoemaker of high-quality shoes. I know you want to believe in Raphael's (quite negative) review simply because you cannot afford a pair of John Lobbs. However, you are not even ware of the fact that Raphael applies criteria in his review that are not applicable to a "classic" British shoe like a fiddle waist or fancy lasts, colours, and patinas (Gaziano & Girling is not a classic brand at all, btw). The primus of British clothing style is understatement. This is perfectly embodied by John Lobb. As for the quality, John Lobb shoes are perfectly Ok, they are of the same quality level as Crockett & Jones. So, it will take you quite an effort to wear them to death. As for the price, a pair of Crockett & Jones shoes costs a half of what's the price of a John Lobb pair. It's up to you to choose between these brands. Or you can go to a local shoemaker as Raphael suggest. But desperately try to believe in bad quality of John Lobb shoes is simply ridiculous as it has nothing to do with the reality. And yes, it's a very particular feeling if you go along a street wearing a pair of simply looking sandals, but you are the only one who knows they are from John Lobb. You basically wear them for yourself, not for others.
Best value for quality to price ratio remains Crockett and Jones. At this price range for English RTW, Gaziano & Girling or Edward Green are far better.
the fact they till charge about 500 quid for a pair of plastic sneakers just show its just branding and overpriced
When I heard thermoplastic, I was surprised. I probably won't be able to tell the difference wearing them but at that price range I did not expect a plastic stiffener.
And here I am annoyed that my £150 brogues have faux leather heel lining
Instant like because I’m part of the GG Squad. 🎩
Greetings all Gents.
Great video. My first Edward Greens, purchased in 1987 while I was in law school, still fit and look great. Thanks again.
I love these “is it worth it videos” 😊
Nice tear down and very informative video, Raphael!
These are still mass-produced, ready-made shoes. If you are prepared to spend that kind of money on such, you should be able to go the extra expense of bespoke made-to -measure shoes. There is NO comparison.
I buy john lobb ready to wear chelsea boots because I can't find a last that looks even close to as good on my foot.
I prefer my Crockett & Jones. I'll stick to them. Crockett & Jones is very expensive. I purchased two pairs of the Tetbury Chukka boot one in black and another pair in brown @ $650.00 a pop. The James Bond boot Daniel Craig wore in the opening of the movie SkyFall. Great boot looks very sharp. I'll stick with Crockett & Jones. I had purchased Crockett & Jones she tree's they come seperate also pricey too.
Shoe trees are generally always purchased separately.
So nice to see a new video from Raphael. Well done and informative.
To me the best rtw value brand is TLB Mallorca and their artista line. They offer some beatiful shoes with some qualitues you would usually only find in bespoke shoes.
I handled a pair of lobb RTW in a store. If I recall they were approximately 2k. I think there are better quality shoes out there at only half the price. Would never buy a pair of these
That's why I like your channel more than Kirby Allison's
He never speak any bad things about overpriced brand such as John Lobb and he called them review
What did he call them?
@@mikemacheese7174 What he means is he calls the videos reviews, even though they are just a 10minute long fawn over some shoes he got for free that he hasn't even worn once.
@@Aggnog Oh yes I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up!
Thank you, this is sorely needed. Companies shouldn't hide behind brand names just for a quick cash grab.
Ouch...the JL fanboys are going to be livid.
If in the UK, just visit Northampton and go to the factory shops for around 50% off.
If one divides how much you pay for a expensive shoe , by the days of a year. It could equal how much people pay for a fancy cup of coffee daily. So I think it could be worth it.👞
I love that you dismantled the shoes yourself
I find Gaziano and Girling to be more aspirational.
Excellent “is it worth it” video. You always gives honest reviews, detailing the plus and minus features of the product. That’s why I look at your videos mad not TH-camrs that always gives rave reviews.
What would it take for gents from GG to get a true bespoke pair of shoes from John Lobb made, I wonder ?
Stay tuned
@@gentlemansgazette Oh I will ...
Bordom!
Having had bespokes made at the St James’s branch, I’d say steer clear and go to Gaziano & Girling instead. A friend of mine had exactly the same disappointing experience. The measurements were poor and I had to press for a remake (the shoes still don’t fit properly). The prices are astronomical and the styles old-fashioned. You don’t even get shoe trees unless you pay $1000 extra. Avoid.
Overpriced, overrated, and a snobbish illusion for the money no object crowd!
Would love to see "is it worth it" about berluti shoes. I've recently seen a couple of pairs at a store and loved the design!
Unique design of shoes
They're not. They're in the same boat as john lobb. For the same amount of money, you can find much better quality shoes. They are nice, they're just not so nice that they're worth what they ask. You are paying a lot for the name
Berluti is all about the quality of the leather and patina. Construction is very commonly used Blake stitch. So if you like the look of patina, you can get a lot out of your money from other smaller brands out of Spain and Italy or even patina artists.
Andres Sendra is a brand out of Spain who has very unique patina styles, also Altan Bottier out of France. Then you have many makers from Italy like Paolo Scafora, Antonio Meccariello, etc who can make anything you want
@@frankmai1824 Seconding Meccariello. I have a pair. The quality for the price is unbeatable. 1k and just as nice as shoes that cost double or more
Berluti shoes used to be produced by Stefano Branchini (I don't know who's producing them now, though). I haven't had any Berlutis in my hands or on my feet, as they are too pricey for me. But I confirm that Stefano Branchini and StefanoBi (another Branchini brand) are of an extremely high quality. I personally adore StefanoBi shoes.
Hello,
I just discovered your channel, it's very interesting and seems objective. Thank you for this overview of John Lobb models that I tended to put a little above everything else, if only because of the price positioning.
I completely agree with you about shapes, luxury brands generally offer several to suit different morphologies (apart from made-to-measure, of course).
I have to admit that the John Lobb ready-to-wear range has a number of coarse details.
What shocked me most: the brand doesn't even offer half sizes Hello,
Hello,
I just discovered your channel, it's very interesting and seems objective. Thank you for this overview of John Lobb models that I tended to put a little above everything else, if only because of the price positioning.
I completely agree with you about shapes, luxury brands generally offer several to suit different morphologies (apart from made-to-measure, of course).
I have to admit that the John Lobb ready-to-wear range has a number of coarse details.
What shocked me most: the brand doesn't even offer half sizes !
All this seems to illustrate that the brand is over-priced because of its prestigious origins, a bit like when Boss in its day expanded into the mass market, the basic quality was no longer assured and the seams didn't hold.
Well, that's not the case here, but thanks to you we can see that lesser-known and slightly less expensive brands are doing better in this respect.
Thanks for clarifying things for me.
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I'm a bit more broke I know you can't make great things on a huge budget but does anyone have a recommendation where I can find a size 13 shoe of decent quality for around 500 dollars?
Ebay
Allen Edmonds if you want American made. Cobbler’s Union is pretty good for below that price range. Plenty of mid-range brands making great boots in that price range
Carmina shoes
TLB Mallorca or Vass Budapest
500 is the sweet spot before you get diminishing of return in my opinion. Check out TLB Mallorca, Carmina, Cobbler Unions, Carlos Santos, Septeim Larguer and Vass.
John Lobb are great shoes, especially Lopez loafers. They fit perfect and comfy, compared to other Northampton shoes like Edward Green or Girling. If you can afford one invest in Lopez, personal recommendations
edward green,gaziano girling in the UK and handwelted shoes out of UK like saint crispins and many many chinese and indonesian makers are much better value.
John Lobb shoes are made in an ordinary shoe factory in Northampton. They must NOT be confused with John Lobb Bespoke; a different ball game entirely……you really are “paying for the label” with this ready to wear brand. Please don’t waste your money……🇬🇧
Wow when I saw the john lobb city 2 next to the allen edmonds park ave I thought the john lobb shoe looked way cheaper like something you would find at cole haan lol I guess I have bad taste cause john lobb is way more expensive.
If you're young and think this person has a clue what he's talking about, consider he is wearing corduroy with seersucker. Distinctly winter jacket and tie with distinctly summer trouser. A wale and stripe of similar scale. He's clearly confused, even before you get to the clownish boutonniere... Just read Permanant Style and save yourself.
Looks more expensive than an Allen Edmonds??
Yeah, it better!!
AE’s are fine shoes, but there’s no illusion of them being in the 4 figure threshold.
Comparing to Carmina or Churches would have been more relative for that cap-toe Oxford
There is something this gentlemen did not notice: the quality of leathers and hardware (gold, palladium, silver …) They source them from their mother company: Hermès which controls the best leather of the world and reproduce the best hardware piece for bags and shoes.
I have a pair of Church’s brogues and a pair of monk strap Edward Green’s in addition to some prestige John Lobb monk strap shoes - I sincerely mean this when I say that the quality of leather, the comfort of the shoe and the contruction overall is better on the JL’s than the Churchs or Edward Greens - yes the price the higher than both, but there’s something special about the JLs that I don’t feel in the other two big name British shoemakers.
Try Portuguese shoes. You won't regret it. Extremely underrated.
Hi, Raphael and team. Gosford Park (a film set in a 1930s English country house) recently arrived on Netflix. I noticed that you had a short review on the film from all the way back in 2011 (!) but you omitted to discuss the outfits worn by Ryan Phillippe’s character Henry Denton after his outing as a Hollywood actor. I wonder if you might revisit the production and take a look at these wonderful menswear items. If you could find ready-to-wear garments for sale so that we could re-create these outfits that would be even better.
Many thanks. Your work is very much appreciated.
It was quite interesting hearing Raphael review a shoe brand that's heavily favored by Kirby Allison.
I'd love to see an "is it worth it" on Alden or Bill's Khakis
Hi your volume setting are low and at the end of the video I had forgotten it.
Well I've sewn little silver bells onto my sneakers/slippers. Makes them tingle! & Cheery in the mornings..
I’ll stick with my $600 CARMINA’s thank you very much!!
Great video! I agree there are many more shoe makers that are far less expensive and far better superior quality.
I have had good luck with J. FitzPatrick for a style-forward high quality shoe. They have one called Magnolia that's in the same ballpark as that City II. I own a pair along with 2 other styles. All have been of a high quality.
I'm a huge fan of this channel. Could you do me a favor and speak up a bit?
Can you do Louboutin “is it worth it”? Even though I know the answer lol
the guy who looks like grannys chair from 30s telling than john lobb not worth it ok
I’m learning so much about high end Gentlemen brands. My goodness what real refined taste looks like compared to all the hype bling bling.
Edinburgh isn't pronounced "Edin-burrow" but "Edin-burruh"
the leather sole is the best quality of shoes or boots , I love all leather boots ! leather sole has my casadei boots, and gianvito rossi, also atribute london but NOT PRADA boots, so I am so disappointed
Can you review the Beluti company next?
Overpriced, only their patina is very nice, but you can get the same quality patina from Santoni, Bontoni etc
YOU SIR DOING A GREAT SERVICE TO THE WORLD SHOWING US THE REALITY
/QUALITY OF THE FAMOUS BRANDS.
Could you make this type of review for Shopeassion?
Sneakers 😱 They seem to have gone the way of Church’s
As a price comparison, a pair of shoes from John Lobb Ltd will set you back a little under £6000.
Stay tuned 😜
Alden, Carmina, and a quickly fading Allen Edmonds (who still has some great socks) in that order for me. I have Lobb's and I'm not a fan.
I really like those shoes at 14:51. Are those also Gaziano & Girling? I am looking on their website and cant find that particular pair.
I swear I saw them this afternoon on Regent Street or Jermyn Street. But I can't put my finger on it. Sorry...
That image of London is suspiciously a lot like Newcastle Upon Tyne
That's because it is Newcastle upon Tyne. The image was taken from the Illustrated London News 14th July 1866 and depicts a sculling race between Henry Kelley of England and James Hamill an American on the river Tyne. There were two races over two days each worth £250. Henry Kelley won both races.
@@Dooguk Thanks for doing the research, and sorry for the inaccuracy. We shall do better job next time.
@@Dooguk Ah thank you for the explanation! It's always nice to see my home town pop up.
@@gentlemansgazette Easy mistake to make. Well it made a change from showing the Houses of Parliament😉. Your videos are great and I always look forward to them.
I am glad that you are mentioning the brand name of your outfits because it is helping me in planning what to buy next. I am actually looking at purchasing some trousers from Berle, but I'm curious about how well they fit because my quads and seat limits my options in trousers.
Weston shoes in Paris are much better.
As always, nice video. I’m on the fence with your corduroy / searsucker combo… Please tell me your thoughts how this works in the summer??
Of course they’re not really worth it, you’re buying the brand. (Which there’s nothing wrong with) personally I buy some shoes that are less known/better made/value, then I also totally buy some things “because it’s a _____” both offer different things that I covet. Something like the Gucci bit loafer comes to mind with the latter.
Depends on how you define “worth”. If you see worth as social worth, then absolutely not worth it. 99.9% of population has never heard of it. Quality wise there are many other quality brands that cost much less. To me I only accept brand premium for brands like Rolex, Hermes or Louis Vuitton because they bring social worth. Not John Lobb.
Don't forget Allen Edmonds
I'm well versed in the handmade, bespoke St. James area of London from the Cheney shoes ASMR video... Ahhh, my youtube world's are colliding. Maurice Sedwell suits for war next?
Actually a series looking at the various ASMR fashion videos would be amusing. What better way for the refined, menswear enthusiast to relax or sleep then the dulcet tones Maurice Sedwell expounding on his signature style... Again...
Just seen six pairs of John Lobbs for sale second hand in a charity shop for £85 per pair. Unfortunately, they were too slim fitting for my son.
Imagine having enough money to tear apart a $1,500.00 shoe just to see if the insides are up to your standards...
I highly doubt he paid it from his own pocket man, afterall the gentleman's gazette is a business
Well if it is my business and the business pays for the shoes, the business cannot pay me that money. Yes it is an expense, and I would have to pay taxes on earnings the business paid to myself, but it is still money I could have used for personal use. But we decided we wanted to do it so you don't have to
Thank you 😎
Nicely done.
Oh, I'm very much enjoying my 13-pairs of Fort Belvedere socks!
20:06, haha.