Hog never countered Tank Doom until just now with this vape change. Doom is going to feel even worse to play now that you can’t cancel his heal outright + the stun nerfs. We’re back to C tier
@@Pam234 Hog never countered Tank Doom besides in S2, but that was when he was hard meta and countered everyone besides Orisa. Since S3 the matchup has been in Dooms favor. It was fun while it lasted.
@@StarCrow77Gaming Can't say it's what'll work for you and it's pretty general advice you probably already know, but crank those sensitivities up if you haven't.
Honeslty full effect of Doom nerf on display at 3:25 . An almost full charged emp punch into wall and no kill on the Sojourn. If the best Doomfist in the world cant consistently convert this kill you know something is wrong.
The issue is less about the duration and more about the displacement after the impact. The stun effect ends before you can even land a clean shot in most cases. The other day I hit a hanzo directly on a flat wall at 90 degrees and he flew 10m into the air on impact.
@@jonableek9452 it’s not completely about how the nerf impacts game, it’s about how unnecessary it is, also there a lot of situations now where because of the nerf, even good doom players fail to get kills that they should have gotten.
@jonableek9452 No, dude. The nerfs were uncalled for, and the hero's overall impact is worse than Doomfist before the 6s and block buffs. Current iteration is the weakest iteration of him from OW2 Alpha till now. Oh, and I'm a GM1 Doomfist main with 1k+ hours, lmfao.
my two fav streamers fighting each other. we had diffrent outcomes over the last past encounters :). Both absolutely masterclass onetricks. Both playing alternative heroes. Doom is now in a way better spot but hog had hes peak to :).
Only Cyx can counter zbra, and only zbra can counter cyx. Really wish to see one you both duo or in the same team but too bad we'll never see it happen unless they change doom back to dps
I don’t see why people view Hog as a counter to Doom overall still. He technically is on paper but if you just play corners, bait hooks, and have an escape plan if you are hooked, there’s nothing really the hog can do.
I love Zbra’s iconic line where a match is winnable and he says “it’s Doomfistable!” And then he Doomfists he enemy team with his favorite hero Doomfist
Would honestly only agree if they buff the duration of it by a lot, like it should be able to be used as a escape tool if necessary and with the timer on it currently you will 100% have people wake up and catch up to a Ana player
i still feel like it’s harder though because with orisa you can just completely ignore those odds since you’re fighting her backline not her, hog forces you to fight him
i personally think that hog is the best tank to pick against doomfirst, because of how he can hook him out of block. Why didn't this hog go for that at all?
He did several times, but his team couldn't follow up because they weren't with cyx and zbra usually had both his slam and punch to escape. So seeing that hooking block wasn't bringing any value, he started trying to get a dps/support pick to start a push
Just climbed out of gold to almost masters. After seeing this level of gameplay, I have determined I don’t have the money for the amount of crack it takes to play like this. I’m now happy with my rating and will continue to improve at a non-cracked-out pace. Thank you.
Hello zbra, I don't know if you like this topic for a video, less than a month ago I switched to PC (console era) and I feel that I am developing very well and I don't know if you would like to react or coach
Crazy how people can sit in ur chat and hate on cyx even tho he’s in a higher elo than they ever be in. No hate tho, it just shows a lot about the world nowadays
More that Hog countering Doom, I’d say this shows how hard Ana counters Hog, half of the kills here were while Hog was anti’d.
Hog never countered Tank Doom until just now with this vape change. Doom is going to feel even worse to play now that you can’t cancel his heal outright + the stun nerfs.
We’re back to C tier
@@TheWorldTurntlehog has always countered tank doom
@@Pam234 Hog never countered Tank Doom besides in S2, but that was when he was hard meta and countered everyone besides Orisa. Since S3 the matchup has been in Dooms favor. It was fun while it lasted.
@@Pam234maybe in lower ranks but not in higher elo
@@TheWorldTurntlemy hope is he will get a buff when mauga drops in
It's less about Hog countering you & more about stopping you from going on a rampage and killing his teammates.
That's what tank is supposed to do
Unless the tank is fighting an orisa
W game, I like how you and cyx be lowkey calling each other out
I'm baffled at how no one went kiriko😊
Cyx played pretty good tbh lol
As a subscriber to Cyx I never knew he could lose. Guess Zbra is built different.
They’ve both won and lost a lot of games against eachother
he just lost bc no kiriko lol
This map is just unplayable for characters without mobility, hog has no chances against doom
Zip it up when you're done.
Thanks man for saying hi back too me last time I just got too plat 4 by playing doom thanks
You gotta believe! I got to diamond with doom only
@@Darkness-g7wI am trying to get there but it's hard on ps5
@@StarCrow77Gamingim top 500 one trick doom on console it’s easier on that even with ximmers
@@StarCrow77Gaming Can't say it's what'll work for you and it's pretty general advice you probably already know, but crank those sensitivities up if you haven't.
@@StarCrow77Gaming I’m on ps4 but I dropped down to plat 1-2. I was at D4 before
Nothing counters zbra
Cyx does tbh
Only zbra and cyx can counter zbra 💀
@@gonll5541he does it regularly
squirrels
Besides ml7 lol
Honeslty full effect of Doom nerf on display at 3:25 . An almost full charged emp punch into wall and no kill on the Sojourn.
If the best Doomfist in the world cant consistently convert this kill you know something is wrong.
The issue is less about the duration and more about the displacement after the impact. The stun effect ends before you can even land a clean shot in most cases. The other day I hit a hanzo directly on a flat wall at 90 degrees and he flew 10m into the air on impact.
Adapt, this patch was mostly to shave off some players off of doom. Get good, truly good doom players can still make stuff happen w the changes.
@@jonableek9452 it’s not completely about how the nerf impacts game, it’s about how unnecessary it is, also there a lot of situations now where because of the nerf, even good doom players fail to get kills that they should have gotten.
@jonableek9452 No, dude. The nerfs were uncalled for, and the hero's overall impact is worse than Doomfist before the 6s and block buffs. Current iteration is the weakest iteration of him from OW2 Alpha till now. Oh, and I'm a GM1 Doomfist main with 1k+ hours, lmfao.
@@فهدعبدالعزيز-ب2ع Yep, I'd like for them to buff his slam and block/shotgun a little, and especially his ult.
Been playing doom for a bit now thankyou zbra for teaching me the way
The gods battle once again
my two fav streamers fighting each other. we had diffrent outcomes over the last past encounters :). Both absolutely masterclass onetricks. Both playing alternative heroes. Doom is now in a way better spot but hog had hes peak to :).
Not even roadhog can counter average Doomfist enjoyers
Been watching you since ow1 love the content keep it up
Bro was BLESSED 1:55
Only Cyx can counter zbra, and only zbra can counter cyx.
Really wish to see one you both duo or in the same team but too bad we'll never see it happen unless they change doom back to dps
In that jay3 videos of 2v10 with more stats could be, cyx has already participated in one of those and i think zbra too
@artavia9208 do you have a link ?
Virgin “zbra better 🤓” “cyx better 🤓”
Vs.
Chad “both of them are incredibly talented one tricks 🤝”
Cyx isn't a hog one trick he'll swap when he needs to.
The best doom ever
All it takes is
ONE ANTI NADE
I don’t see why people view Hog as a counter to Doom overall still. He technically is on paper but if you just play corners, bait hooks, and have an escape plan if you are hooked, there’s nothing really the hog can do.
With the hog rework is gonna be harder now
We love Cyx hog ‼️
Is it me or after getting hooked then buffer powerblock not work anymore? or buffering E ( Slam ) after using ult
With the new hog remake, I feel like Hog will be MUCH better against doom now. What do you think?
I love Zbra’s iconic line where a match is winnable and he says “it’s Doomfistable!” And then he Doomfists he enemy team with his favorite hero Doomfist
Its fistin' time?
Their Ana was hitting crazy sleeps.
Gutmann Gateway
How do you feel about that trap?
Setup vid next mabye?
Also idk when you hit 50K but congrats!
What is my man harmless poke doing 0:25
was that arikadou?
No amount of Vaxta will make my shotgun aim like yours Zbra, Tell me the secret sauce
Many many hours of practice in ranked
5:32 what saved him there? He was pushed away from hook lol
brig flail bonk
@@justdabbin omg if you stop exactly at the point you see two chains. That was insane from the other brig
@@samsbookbook3425ikr
Very hot take: Ana’s sleep should only work close to her so she can’t randomly sleep ppl and get a free pick from across the map
Would honestly only agree if they buff the duration of it by a lot, like it should be able to be used as a escape tool if necessary and with the timer on it currently you will 100% have people wake up and catch up to a Ana player
Like awkward said “you can’t counter pick skill”
Sure you can you just need a well coordinated team.
Zbar of course u made this game a vid
why u never wave hello like "hey theeeeere 😏"
ZBRA counters Cyx
Unlike Orisa, you can actually counterplay hog. Hog isn't even a counter, it's like a 6-4 matchup in favor of hog. Orisa is like a 9-1 matchup.
i still feel like it’s harder though because with orisa you can just completely ignore those odds since you’re fighting her backline not her, hog forces you to fight him
If you see a hog on your team, try to go Kiriko, here tank games are often defined by heals...
i personally think that hog is the best tank to pick against doomfirst, because of how he can hook him out of block. Why didn't this hog go for that at all?
well whatever he did was the best option, he has been in top 500 longer than zbra and is the best hog player ww, with more than 3000 hours on hog
He did several times, but his team couldn't follow up because they weren't with cyx and zbra usually had both his slam and punch to escape. So seeing that hooking block wasn't bringing any value, he started trying to get a dps/support pick to start a push
bcs zbra was avoiding him as plague, and as much as i noticed, zbra usually puts videos where his teammates are overall performing better than enemy’s
@@darchandarchan7036sound like a hater tbh cyx does the same thing
@@darchandarchan7036 bro thinks people upload gameplay of them doing bad... Do you even watch you tube ?
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Just climbed out of gold to almost masters. After seeing this level of gameplay, I have determined I don’t have the money for the amount of crack it takes to play like this. I’m now happy with my rating and will continue to improve at a non-cracked-out pace. Thank you.
What can counter your doom ?
Chase him as tank
If it's not Zbra or GetQuakedOn
Mercy can just fly and outheal his damage as long as it's not an Emporewed Punch
Davis Inlet
7:32 how to take 500 damage in 3 seconds.
Hello zbra, I don't know if you like this topic for a video, less than a month ago I switched to PC (console era) and I feel that I am developing very well and I don't know if you would like to react or coach
The bad thing is that at the moment I only play quick play to improve my level but I feel like I'm at a 7/10 or 8
He's about to :(
i mean, does current roadhog counter anything?
a good one can
@@jordan-gx8ijthat doesn't explain the lowest pick rates of hog
Maybe he has a chance against Ball?
cyx countered zbra a lot of games already, this is just one of the few games he defeated hog
Winston, 99% of Doom players, a majority of other dive heroes, and he's pretty good against Rein I think.
lmao free first point on round 2. hog got forced into own backline ez shit
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Only positivity101 counters zbra
I ain’t gone lie yo team did a lot of work 🤣 but doom and hog or such in a bad state
I remember seeing a video of when he 💩 on u
511 Keeling Orchard
It’s just a DPS/brig gap tbh.
Gardner Port
Oooo
407 Kirk Road
Nah cyx still his daddy for sure. In the hog doom onetrick match up cyx has beat zbra 3 other times
Edit from 26/12/23 it's 4 actually
Anti heal is worse than res, hot take
People who hate Bridget
What a toxic twitch chat lmao
noti
this doom is pretty bad XD. All he does is run away and do chip damage with knuckle bullets. Completely out classed.
? Because is hog
Because if he goes full force Unga bunga against hog he will be melted instantly
Cyx L’s are always a treat
Crazy how people can sit in ur chat and hate on cyx even tho he’s in a higher elo than they ever be in. No hate tho, it just shows a lot about the world nowadays