Got bored and made a plate ... it stopped 3 rounds of 556 and 4 rounds of .308 before it failed... but for 25$ and all materials came from Lowes I was impressed
@@AlaskanBallistics 2 pieces ceramic flooring 12 by 12 .... fiberglass cloth with resin ... 5/16 ar 400 steel In the middle which I already had ... after the steel .. another layer of fiberglass with resin followed by the last ceramic flooring... followed by wrapping it in duct tape... this was before Biden inflation so I dunno what it would cost now
im guessing the last plate had oobleck in it. its a neat concept but it just shatters too easely. and the kevlar didnt seem like it was woven the way body armour would be. i wonder if some one soked gevlar in fiberglass resen and also maybe had fiberglass around that and some carbon fiber around that and some steel around all that . or maybe switch the steal and carbonfiber layers
@@TheOldFatDadGoober oh lol hmm. maybe jbweald would be better. actually try getting a lot of e6000 glue. it hardens into a very strong material that is dence, sticks to everything yet is a bit flexable so it wont crack. also heat resistant. do be aware that it does shrink when it dries. i found a suitcase with a huge hole on the bottom by the wheels and i out some tape or toothoicks and layerd a bunch of that glue on there to fill it. that spot is now the strongest part of the suitcaise wich i have put through hell by caring likr6 gallond of water up stares with it many times
Time to start pillaging scrap from home renovations I guess. Mans stopping assault rifles with floor tiles, framing wood and drywall compound. lmao This is the best thing I have seen in ever. I am fairly confident every one of those shots would have been stopped with a decent spread of resin as the first and middle layer, and it wouldn't even add much weight either.
Thanks for the video. To me, the real value in this kind of effort would be finding an economical way to keep bullets from going through walls in a suburban home. Ideally, we'd all set up our home defense plans to try to funnel an attacker into a specific choke point where we would be able to shoot from a position of relative safety and make easy hits. We'd also want to have the downrange area be one where missed shots or bullets going through the attacker don't injure innocent bystanders. If one could fortify a wall in the downrange area, then missed shots wouldn't endanger the neighbors. I could see value in fortifying the walls of a child's bedroom this way. I could see value in putting these kinds of plates on the back of furniture to stop stray rounds. I love your testing as part of trying to achieve that kind of effect.
For a wall it'd obviously be costly but you could; fill the cavity will something like stones (similar to ceramic ball idea I saw yrs ago), then something like the first vest, a thin sheet of metal, tiles glued to that maybe even a double layer & then marine plywood. You could just paint the plywood or glue a sheet of drywall & paint you could even use the fireproof drywall 15 or 20mm pink stuff.
He did pretty damn well! Good stuff man. I actually work at a fabrication shop and we have some composite that might need to be tested. I’m willing to put my work up against you!
Yep, composite is the way to go. I was also thinking the guy should use smaller single tiles instead, so only one small spot is compromised, and not the huge cracks in one single tile.
@@scaleworksRC I was thinking about a layer of the small octagon type in front and middle of the layers of composite. I think I can keep it around 8 pounds too. I stopped by the shop and looked at a few things. I’m hoping to get some together. Since we are already on the same thought process if you have any suggestions I would like to hear from you
After watching Buffman Range I can't help but mention how using a shooting rest, and a representative backing (like clay) would/could have changed the performance of the plates. Fair hits and a static plate (meaning the plate wouldn't have been affected by reciprocal impact force, and having a body-like medium behind it to dispurse force) may have been a more realistic scenario as well as preventing the plate from moving or absorbing reflective force that was induced by the concrete block. Good video, though.
This armor surprised you>> In WWII, the PT boats used a plywood gunshield of highly compressed 1.5" (1.25"?) marine grade plywood that stopped Japanese 20 mm
That PT boat armour impressed you ??? In world war 1 they had a fully bullet resistant jockstrap that was made out of crushed up camel teeth that was mixed up with the entire "Goony Goo Goo" tribes feces that had been urinated on by grasshoppers and then highly compressed and it stopped the drones carrying hollow point scud missle war heads with tribesmens under pants glued to thw back for longrange aesthetic wonder!!!!
I'm curious what the velocity of the bullet is after it passes through the body armor. So maybe a bullet will pass through the body armor, but does it still have a velocity that would make it absolutely lethal? If the bullet is traveling at 2500 feet per second when it hits the armor, is it only going 500fps when it exits? 500fps will enter the body, but will it penetrate enough to puncture vital organs?
Put a chronograph after the armor to see how much the armor slows down the projectile. Obviously it has to be close range. But I have always wondered how fast the bullet is going after the armor slowed it down. Is it enough to keep it from penetrating to our organs?
First plate was impressive. Second one is scary because not only are getting a bullet through you but a large wad of kevlar and special sauce. That would be a nasty wound.
You’d be amazed what two pieces of aluminum with a piece of fiberglass in the middile will stop. 1/8” alumin on the strike face, plus 3/4” fiberglass in the middle with a 1/4-1/2” piece of aluminum in the rear. Use the fiberglass cloth, right weave.
At 13:46 you see some of the .308 bullet strike the red metal target at it's extreme right towards the bottom. I wonder if the grass you saw moving was reacting to a richochet?
You take the material from the car seat belt, they are made of strong nylon and then you weave them like a chessboard and at the end you glue 5-7 layers with epoxy resin.
That first plate would be good enough for many parts of Africa where AKs are very widespread, maybe could work against 556 and 545 with a IIIA layer behind, who knows. However, that second one, the BFD would just be a deal breaker, though. Great video!
1st shot on second plate test you closed bolt I saw something fly out from your left . But did you also know if you heat up metal sheet steel it tempers it same as if ar500 steel is heated it goes soft 🇬🇧👍🐾🦊
Secret Service commenting about Donald Trump's second assassin had home made ceramic armor..... I think it looks a lot like those are ceramic plates usually used for protection against high-powered rifles. A lot of military and law enforcement wear them in a high-risk operation,” Skulke said. “It allows … them better protection than the flak jacket or bulletproof vest they’re wearing. That’s what it looks like to me.”
Not really. A lot of name brand plates can stop rounds more powerful than it's rated for. The main cost is the R&D to ensure it'll stop multiple rounds that it is rated for. Then once they do that, it is then sent to get NIJ certified which is costly as well.
Another firearms channel recently did a similar test, the material that on your test was extruded 10" out the back, was inside of and hanging out the back of the ballistic gel zombie torso the ballistic plate was in front of. Not survivable.
.223 is not moving that fast out of your short barrel pistol. Try a 16" barreled AR and it will go right through. It's the same reason why you were able to get penetration with the 5.45 x 39.
I realize that you are a fair distance from the target but in a real life shooting, which is usually less than 10 feet the results will be way more different, and not in a good way for the armor.
You also shot the 5.45 out of a long barrel and shot the 5.56 out of a 10 inch barrel. M855 out of an 18 inch barrel would probably go through as well.
Sure you can have an AR, buttstock? Oh no, thats too dangerous man, the precision that you will gain from it will do a shitload at 10m. They smoke some heavy shit out there broski. Thanks for vid! And wtf, AK with stock is ok? What? AHhahahahahahahahahahah insane
Porcelain or ceramic ? Not the same material. It became apparent that after the damage from the first shots broke up the plates enough to invalidate the other shots.
Wow, it’s so great to know that if the bad guys come, and you don’t have any armor, you can just run into the bathroom and rip two tiles off the floor and duct tape them to a frying pan and you’ll probably be good!! I’m actually quite impressed! 👍🏼😬👍🏼
@@MylesDavid as absurd as that sounds, it is funny as hell after seeing this video. Freaking gold, man. 😂 one of those times you wish 'funny because it's true' wasn't applicable - but it's very real. 💀
Got bored and made a plate ... it stopped 3 rounds of 556 and 4 rounds of .308 before it failed... but for 25$ and all materials came from Lowes I was impressed
i dont suppose i could talk you into sharing the recipe for that armour
You got a materials list?
@@AlaskanBallistics thats what im wondering too..i want that recipe ,if it can stop .308 then it must be a good one
@peacemaker121772 put it in my walls for when the AFT comes for 25 bucks i can armor the walls, at least in spots
@@AlaskanBallistics 2 pieces ceramic flooring 12 by 12 .... fiberglass cloth with resin ... 5/16 ar 400 steel In the middle which I already had ... after the steel .. another layer of fiberglass with resin followed by the last ceramic flooring... followed by wrapping it in duct tape... this was before Biden inflation so I dunno what it would cost now
Thanks for putting my homemade crap through the ringer!
Why dont you post a video on how to make that body armor
im guessing the last plate had oobleck in it. its a neat concept but it just shatters too easely. and the kevlar didnt seem like it was woven the way body armour would be. i wonder if some one soked gevlar in fiberglass resen and also maybe had fiberglass around that and some carbon fiber around that and some steel around all that . or maybe switch the steal and carbonfiber layers
@@kirill2525 That's actually just caulk. I was hoping it would hold everything together. Obviously didn't work out that well. 😅
@@TheOldFatDadGoober oh lol hmm. maybe jbweald would be better. actually try getting a lot of e6000 glue. it hardens into a very strong material that is dence, sticks to everything yet is a bit flexable so it wont crack. also heat resistant. do be aware that it does shrink when it dries.
i found a suitcase with a huge hole on the bottom by the wheels and i out some tape or toothoicks and layerd a bunch of that glue on there to fill it. that spot is now the strongest part of the suitcaise wich i have put through hell by caring likr6 gallond of water up stares with it many times
@@kirill2525 Neat idea, I'll check it out.
Time to start pillaging scrap from home renovations I guess. Mans stopping assault rifles with floor tiles, framing wood and drywall compound. lmao This is the best thing I have seen in ever. I am fairly confident every one of those shots would have been stopped with a decent spread of resin as the first and middle layer, and it wouldn't even add much weight either.
Thanks for the video.
To me, the real value in this kind of effort would be finding an economical way to keep bullets from going through walls in a suburban home. Ideally, we'd all set up our home defense plans to try to funnel an attacker into a specific choke point where we would be able to shoot from a position of relative safety and make easy hits. We'd also want to have the downrange area be one where missed shots or bullets going through the attacker don't injure innocent bystanders. If one could fortify a wall in the downrange area, then missed shots wouldn't endanger the neighbors. I could see value in fortifying the walls of a child's bedroom this way. I could see value in putting these kinds of plates on the back of furniture to stop stray rounds. I love your testing as part of trying to achieve that kind of effect.
For a wall it'd obviously be costly but you could; fill the cavity will something like stones (similar to ceramic ball idea I saw yrs ago), then something like the first vest, a thin sheet of metal, tiles glued to that maybe even a double layer & then marine plywood. You could just paint the plywood or glue a sheet of drywall & paint you could even use the fireproof drywall 15 or 20mm pink stuff.
Dude I love the idea to incorporate into furniture, lawn or porch furniture ,never know when you gotta take cover.
👍😊 the camera and light was spot on that day, you could see the bullet neat 😊. My take is if an person has a semi 308 you will have a bad day.
He did pretty damn well! Good stuff man. I actually work at a fabrication shop and we have some composite that might need to be tested. I’m willing to put my work up against you!
Go for it! I really enjoy doing stuff like this. Love to see what people come up with.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober hey bud I just subbed. I appreciate the encouragement. I’m going to start working on something on my lunch breaks.
@@Thegoofyairgunner thanks!
Yep, composite is the way to go. I was also thinking the guy should use smaller single tiles instead, so only one small spot is compromised, and not the huge cracks in one single tile.
@@scaleworksRC I was thinking about a layer of the small octagon type in front and middle of the layers of composite. I think I can keep it around 8 pounds too. I stopped by the shop and looked at a few things. I’m hoping to get some together. Since we are already on the same thought process if you have any suggestions I would like to hear from you
As someone that makes homemade body armor too very impressive stuff!!
Thanks!
Nice, I make custom slugs ☺️
After watching Buffman Range I can't help but mention how using a shooting rest, and a representative backing (like clay) would/could have changed the performance of the plates. Fair hits and a static plate (meaning the plate wouldn't have been affected by reciprocal impact force, and having a body-like medium behind it to dispurse force) may have been a more realistic scenario as well as preventing the plate from moving or absorbing reflective force that was induced by the concrete block.
Good video, though.
How about an old cookie tray of tin front back or center
This armor surprised you>> In WWII, the PT boats used a plywood gunshield of highly compressed 1.5" (1.25"?) marine grade plywood that stopped Japanese 20 mm
That PT boat armour impressed you ??? In world war 1 they had a fully bullet resistant jockstrap that was made out of crushed up camel teeth that was mixed up with the entire "Goony Goo Goo" tribes feces that had been urinated on by grasshoppers and then highly compressed and it stopped the drones carrying hollow point scud missle war heads with tribesmens under pants glued to thw back for longrange aesthetic wonder!!!!
Oh also As a guy who loads. .223 and .308, I love EITHER Hornady BTHP/nosler BTHP. I’d be curious to see that style bullet hit body armor!!
My gues is the white paste is ooblek, a combination of cornstarch and water making a non-newtonian liquid.
steel and ceramics. thats why armor is now like 150 for carrier and 2 plates. cool video. love to see how it turned out! thanks!
Tile is porcelain. Big difference
That first plate was really impressive. Great work 👏 👏 👏.
I'm impressed with the first plate.
I'll definitely pass on the secret sauce.
It's usually just French dressing anyway 😁
The 308 on the saucy plate actually went thru the plate, inside of the cinder block and then hit the red steel target. Check the slow mo again:)
Like hi-test fluid & cornstarch where speed/pressure tightens it up?
I'm curious what the velocity of the bullet is after it passes through the body armor. So maybe a bullet will pass through the body armor, but does it still have a velocity that would make it absolutely lethal? If the bullet is traveling at 2500 feet per second when it hits the armor, is it only going 500fps when it exits? 500fps will enter the body, but will it penetrate enough to puncture vital organs?
what comes flying off your mag at 11:42?
What did you see? All I saw was a shell normally eject from the chamber on the right hand side.
I think if you combined that second plate with gambeson or something in that vein the preference towards deformation makes a lot more sense.
2:32 RIP inch worm 😪
Put a chronograph after the armor to see how much the armor slows down the projectile. Obviously it has to be close range. But I have always wondered how fast the bullet is going after the armor slowed it down. Is it enough to keep it from penetrating to our organs?
But will it stop hand thrown rocks? Like golf ball size rocks thrown by someone who is good at throwing rocks.
That Shockwave looked more like a ricochet of part of the bullet
First plate was impressive. Second one is scary because not only are getting a bullet through you but a large wad of kevlar and special sauce. That would be a nasty wound.
Try standard 556 - Steel core (green tip)
You’d be amazed what two pieces of aluminum with a piece of fiberglass in the middile will stop. 1/8” alumin on the strike face, plus 3/4” fiberglass in the middle with a 1/4-1/2” piece of aluminum in the rear. Use the fiberglass cloth, right weave.
I wonder what would happen if the 2 ceramic tiles were replaced with cement made with carbon fiber as the aggregate?
At 13:46 you see some of the .308 bullet strike the red metal target at it's extreme right towards the bottom.
I wonder if the grass you saw moving was reacting to a richochet?
That first plate seemed a bit better.
You take the material from the car seat belt, they are made of strong nylon and then you weave them like a chessboard and at the end you glue 5-7 layers with epoxy resin.
That shockwave was nuts
That first plate would be good enough for many parts of Africa where AKs are very widespread, maybe could work against 556 and 545 with a IIIA layer behind, who knows. However, that second one, the BFD would just be a deal breaker, though. Great video!
Your 223 isn’t getting those velocities in an ar pistol configuration.
The first piece would be good for some book bag Amor 👍👍👍 as long as it works 👍👍👍👍👍👍
1st shot on second plate test you closed bolt I saw something fly out from your left . But did you also know if you heat up metal sheet steel it tempers it same as if ar500 steel is heated it goes soft 🇬🇧👍🐾🦊
1st shot I got notification of reply but nothing there
I bet if you use Kevlar in place of the fiberglass fibers it will do so much better
Secret Service commenting about Donald Trump's second assassin had home made ceramic armor..... I think it looks a lot like those are ceramic plates usually used for protection against high-powered rifles. A lot of military and law enforcement wear them in a high-risk operation,” Skulke said. “It allows … them better protection than the flak jacket or bulletproof vest they’re wearing. That’s what it looks like to me.”
I would like for you to add to your test, the 7.62x25 Tokarev S&B loading, fired from a CZ-52.
you need a softer backing like a sand bag with clothing on it.
Lmao! That random maggot cruising along after that first 9mm shot xD
Hey FYI 223 won't make 3k fps out of ur mk 18 may b 2500& 4to5 Hindi fps can b a big diff.
Considering how cheaply effective body armor can be made I am beginning to think some of these manufactured armors are a bit of a ripoff price wise. 🤔
Not really. A lot of name brand plates can stop rounds more powerful than it's rated for. The main cost is the R&D to ensure it'll stop multiple rounds that it is rated for. Then once they do that, it is then sent to get NIJ certified which is costly as well.
you are paying for lawyers and insurance, or else they wouldn't risk the liability to sell it
dude put a ceramic tile in the secret sauce, you can see the "honey comb" back pattern of the tile @ 13:08
Ur slow mo camera is soooooooo badass 👍👍👍
556 only goes 3000+ out of a 20" barrel. A low-pressure 223 out of that DD 11.5" is probably around 2600-2700 fps.
That was definitely a fragment that hit the grass
Another firearms channel recently did a similar test, the material that on your test was extruded 10" out the back, was inside of and hanging out the back of the ballistic gel zombie torso the ballistic plate was in front of. Not survivable.
Sure, but for a car door insert/ panic room that isn’t an issue, so the testing still yields interesting results.
Try making it thicker and try mag 44
Too much fun…. Have u seen the new on G&A the.308 in an AR15 platform?? Very nice an comes in around $1,300. Might have been a Ruger, not sure.
Thanks
What optic is on your poison bullet AK? My 762x39 AK looks almost identical to it with a pic rail on the gas tube cover.
i'm gonna do this and put inside my children clothes so they can go to school, love it!
2:28 Oh hey there Mr Caterpillar! 2:32 oh..
How much does it weigh? Steel plates, fiberglass, ceramic, ballisticrete?
So would this even fit in a standard plate carrier?
Did you say your range? I missed it. I really wanna see these tested at various ranges aka much closer.
Depending I guess where you live. It would be nice to put into exterior walls, from drive by and such.
Kevlar infused with shear thickening liquid is better
amazing really think he is on to something with that first one 👍👍💪💪
Woot woot I can't wait to make my own body armor.
Great video and good job on the armor
.223 is not moving that fast out of your short barrel pistol. Try a 16" barreled AR and it will go right through. It's the same reason why you were able to get penetration with the 5.45 x 39.
You can literally hear the 308. Hitting the steel plate behind it.
I realize that you are a fair distance from the target but in a real life shooting, which is usually less than 10 feet the results will be way more different, and not in a good way for the armor.
How about I supply home made thinner and lighter against AP 7.62 x 51 mm or 12.7 x 99mm ball. Challenge for $?
Pretty cool.
Ahh TH-cam algorithm, great what 308 rifle was that ?
Well nice to show how to defeat body armor n way to drive it home to sketchy people
I can make some body armor that will defeat 50 cal but not sure you will survive the impact.
would it still be considered a stock if it is permanently attached?
What were the weights of these two plates?
You also shot the 5.45 out of a long barrel and shot the 5.56 out of a 10 inch barrel. M855 out of an 18 inch barrel would probably go through as well.
Tungsten armor would be great to test
Secret sauce secret was a layer of mustard
Layered ceramic plate, asphalt and fiber glass cloth 😂😂😂
"Good mooooorning, Internet! This is The Old Fat Armor-Producing Dad!"
If that was ar 500 or600 1/4 inc no pennatrasion
Look like tile mastic
I don’t think that was the shock wave of the 308 I think that was a ricochet it sounded like u hit steel and then u can see that after
Wow....this is some wicked stufff. Where can I buy it?
I loved this video bro u are great very Entertaining
Thanks for doing these videos!!!
Love your content bro
Wow 😮
Secret sauces probably some stupid lock tight glue.
From home depot
The Vagaholic shirt needs to come back out of the closet for the next video!
non-Newtonian fluid ?
Don't know what you have in it? CHECK
where do you buy that bullet proof duct tape?
Love your vids man keep it up
There is no scheels link
Glitch in the matrix
Sure you can have an AR, buttstock? Oh no, thats too dangerous man, the precision that you will gain from it will do a shitload at 10m.
They smoke some heavy shit out there broski. Thanks for vid!
And wtf, AK with stock is ok? What? AHhahahahahahahahahahah insane
Cornstarch and Water...
Your rang looks like it is at Kentucky ballistics. Lol
Porcelain or ceramic ? Not the same material. It became apparent that after the damage from the first shots broke up the plates enough to invalidate the other shots.
The first plate held up better.
How much does it Weigh???
Made a full body armor from this
I think a 5.56 out of a full rifle length barrel would be a better option to test plates against
Yeah I agree, but it does take some of the fun out of the testing
Good idea
100% agree
Wow, it’s so great to know that if the bad guys come, and you don’t have any armor, you can just run into the bathroom and rip two tiles off the floor and duct tape them to a frying pan and you’ll probably be good!!
I’m actually quite impressed!
👍🏼😬👍🏼
@@MylesDavid as absurd as that sounds, it is funny as hell after seeing this video. Freaking gold, man. 😂 one of those times you wish 'funny because it's true' wasn't applicable - but it's very real. 💀
Now I'm thinking of making a full size ballistic shield 🤔
Shields are amazing and like closing the gap by forcing the perspective it can force errors.
Or maybe even a full sized ballistic umbrella with a Bluetooth tooth brush holder that is ballistic also ,ofcourse!