Nope. It is much stricter than a simple assist. I think assists will still register as long as your last hit is 10 seconds earlier. The talent will only activate if the last hit is ONE second earlier.
Tenacity's effectivity reduces by Sky Piercer. I wonder Moonton is not nerfing it for non-assassin heroes. I mean, every Tom, Dick and Harry uses it, if Moonton cuts its stats by half for non assassin heroes people will be more creative with their builds and low hp battles will be fun again. There are role specific items in the game (wind of nature, rosegold meteor, thunderbet) and I think it's about time Sky Piercer gets the same treatment.
Tenacity is TRASH, especially for tanks. I've calculated it, and Tenacity only gives an extra, like, 2% damage reduction. That's nothing, and you have to be at low health to gain that tiny effect, as well. I pick the discount talent EVERY SINGLE TIME for tanks that aren't compatible with Festival of Blood.
Tenacity is only barely useful for Marksmen that won't build any defence (Tenacity basically acts as their sole defence source, maybe except for WoN), which is FUCKING IRONIC.
Mm is now left with weapon master, and master assassin. Why not pull yourself together? Well it's most effective when in teamfigths you need to get a lot of kills or assists to be able to take the full effect the battle speed cd reduction, now you need to stack it. Mages are now left with maybe wilderness blessing or weapon master or mystery shop so I suggest moontoon buff mystery shop most mm and mage are really reliant on items they cannot do much without items
you are in a game, playing adc, hylos gets picked, goes to your lane lvl 4, gets behind your wave, hylos ults you, you run to your turret somehow, he follow behind, activates vengeance, enemy adc kills you, and when he is about to die to the turret, he gets + 1500hp and runs away
I think its better if they just completely changed the wishing lantern into lost hp instead of current hp, as the butterflies will only attack the enemy after you have dealt damage to them which is different with the Demon hunter sword, as the demon hunter sword's passive can be easily proc as soon as you land a basic attack.
@@isaiahduran9495 just like every other item, dmg are calculated BEFORE the skill hits an ennemy, so it deals 10% of his HP BEFORE being damaged by the skill
the point of it is to counter tanks, and that isnt even a problem because thats not how the damage calculation works, you don't even know what youre talking about.
Deadass, that buff was too overpowered, having 120 attack just because of having 2.5k+ extra HP is not something you would like to see when used by fighters, if I were to apply that thing to my sustain Dyr, he would hit as hard as a goddamn assassin while only having war axe and hunter strike to begin with, plus the attack on queen's wings is going to be way too painful, that's literally 2/3 the attack as the blade of despair and in top of that, it's a defense füçkïñg item, yeah, not a good adjustment to begin with, it's going to bring back tank jungle which Moonton recently dealt with.
@Gokuknows I agree with you and still Bruteforce simply sucks and the 2 adaptive attack buff per stack is not gonna do anything. They could have made it give 6% movement speed + another 1% movement speed for every stack. That would make the item more useful
@treeseeker5884 it already has movement speed + CC reduction in it, and the 8 attack per stack may not matter a lot to you, but I swear, that hurts enough for a fighter that's literally running quite fast, you'll get a good 48 with it, combining it with queen's wings and you pretty much have a hunter strike with you with just DEF items, DEF items, those items aren't supposed to hurt, so you may get the whole gimmick about the items wrong, because BFB is quiet literally OP with YZ if you can use him good.
That Selena stun viewer is great for people with Samsung Fold series that make it hard to Pan around map as you can only Pan using the Top Quarter of the screen in its Wide screen mode which makes extremely difficult as opposed to the normal Candybar shape phones.
Karrie getting buffed for Kishin Densetsu. Selena for Zenith. Temporal Reign and Inspire is an indirect Buff to Cyclops. By combining Genius Wand, Buffed Cursed Helmet and Silvanna's passive, Silvanna can now reach the Maximum -60 Magic Defense.
Focus mark is actually game changer! I always want to use it as a support/tank player but most of the time, I have bad teamates so I just carry with Blast.
Not really because it would take most of the view if enemy ganks u and u stun one It.would be better if they did something like below her hp bar like a warning And selena is one of my mains
@@1HPSmurf coul've been wayyy better to make it like novaria's second skill, without extra vision just a bigger point of view when on this form, or like layla lvl12 but again without extra vision u'll still see the ennemies at the same distance without a nearest allie
I wonder if Temporal Reign will finally have a use for Minotaur now that the duration can be extended with Assists. I'm pretty happy with these new changes, roamers will be eating well if these are implemented. I do hope Tenacity is changed because they really made it worse lmao. Perhaps small Damage Reduction? (10% maybe? Or maybe with level scaling until 10% at late game or whatever)
For tenacity, they should give it some sort of secondary effect aside from low hp defense points, because its definetely one of the most neglible talent even for its intended users, atleast other talents can be a good pick in their niche.
I think the tenacity is supposed to activate when you lose 35% hp and I still think it's bad because it's just 15 hybrid def if it's 25 it would be doable
Questionnnn If I get 2k mmr does he reset when the new season comes around and if he does how much does it go to is it based on the mmr/rank you get in the season or does it reset to the same for everyone?
I liked almost every change in the server. The ones I didn't are Chip's and YSS's. I like Chip as it is now, but if I am to nerf him, I'd just give a 1s delay on his teleports and lower his shields. For YSS we just need an indicator for his melee and distant attacks.
Wtf did they do to tenacity? Have the devs forgot there's sky piercer, execute and dire hit?! You're basically dead before tenacity gives you defense buff
They might really be bringing Tank Meta back. Those changes to the talents seems to play around with having better synergy to Damage Roamers for when the Junglers are Tanks.
Luo Yi needs some adjustments 😅. Ultimate Cooldown nerf (60s --> 80s) plus add mana cost (120, 180, 240). In exchange, her passive should pull enemies harder (closer to each other or 2nd skill), and her 1st and 2nd skill should have lower mana cost (50-90 > 40-70 in 1st skill and 120-170 > 100-150 in 2nd skill). This should give her more potential in solo play while toning down her capabilities in team-organized matches. She's a top pick in team tournaments but she's rarely picked in solo matches.
IMO, they could've just adjusted the defense Tenacity provides. Like, idk, maybe double the defense stats if a tank or fighter is using it? Or maybe make it scale with HP or hybrid defense. Just don't touch the trigger condition; in that way, both squishy and durable heroes can still benefit from it.
They should make PYT and Focusing Mark exclusive for tank and support heroes. Then, non-tank and non-support heroes would receive half of the benefits.
maybe Moonton knew that other countries have a fighting chance if they bring back the tank jg instead of the assasin/damage focus meta, good move since we have more versitility and other heroes might be pick because of the adjustment. 👍🏿
Heyy i got a question If I get 2k mmr does he reset when the new season comes around and if he does how much does it go to is it based on the mmr/rank you get in the season or does it reset to the same for everyone?
Focusing mark will be strong for mages and some fighters as well. Just imagine cici with ice queen wand, or xborg with ice queen AND focusing mark 💀 That's an almost 50% slow effect
It would be better if killing spree was unaffected by anti heal, it was already nerfed a lot in the past. Anti heal ruins the whole point of killing spree.
*Nah that assisting machine Mathilda with Killing Spree is never going to die* 💀
idk man the talent everyone uses on her when hitting a passive is like a sprint.
Nope. It is much stricter than a simple assist. I think assists will still register as long as your last hit is 10 seconds earlier. The talent will only activate if the last hit is ONE second earlier.
For real though, when I use mathilda I sometimes get confused when getting an assist even if I'm far from team fights HAHAHAHAHA
@@maxnapula324 me too lol
Still all boots talent better
Finally they paying attention to talents
Tenacity should have its defence buffed if the hp threshold is lower, basically like old tenacity
Tenacity's effectivity reduces by Sky Piercer.
I wonder Moonton is not nerfing it for non-assassin heroes. I mean, every Tom, Dick and Harry uses it, if Moonton cuts its stats by half for non assassin heroes people will be more creative with their builds and low hp battles will be fun again. There are role specific items in the game (wind of nature, rosegold meteor, thunderbet) and I think it's about time Sky Piercer gets the same treatment.
Tenacity is TRASH, especially for tanks.
I've calculated it, and Tenacity only gives an extra, like, 2% damage reduction. That's nothing, and you have to be at low health to gain that tiny effect, as well.
I pick the discount talent EVERY SINGLE TIME for tanks that aren't compatible with Festival of Blood.
Tenacity is only barely useful for Marksmen that won't build any defence (Tenacity basically acts as their sole defence source, maybe except for WoN), which is FUCKING IRONIC.
Mm is now left with weapon master, and master assassin. Why not pull yourself together? Well it's most effective when in teamfigths you need to get a lot of kills or assists to be able to take the full effect the battle speed cd reduction, now you need to stack it. Mages are now left with maybe wilderness blessing or weapon master or mystery shop so I suggest moontoon buff mystery shop most mm and mage are really reliant on items they cannot do much without items
@@Tl.2255 I Agree, as advance server player and tester, i found that PYT way more benefit especially if you use wind of nature or winter
Those are some good update for some Hero and as always get to point
That chip adjustment is gonna break the game
Break the game by getting banned all the time 😅
@@lavibgaming8091 they like buffing already op heroes they did the same thing with zhuxin.
@@dragushcobaj4121 It's all business in my opinion every hero they are buffing a skin is getting ready to launch 😵💫
This update is actually huge
Killing spree is finally back
Crazy honestly even aggressive roams can use it
@@Relaxish imagine gatot with this 🥶
That Chip adjustment is OP AF!
It’s basically a built in arrival
Crazy
I don't like Chip update, what if you're facing an Enemy Chip and you almost killed him and boom he teleported
@@tangkamssangma3353 nope he needs to be out of battle so he can't do that
@@tangkamssangma3353it only works if Chip is out of combat. It won’t be able to escape if you’re attacking Chip
Focusing mark changes were definitely made with Angela specifically in mind cause of her kishin skin lol
It'll be broken on tank chou with cursed helmet new passive + chou's passive
Angela is not the main character 🙄 because there are Rafaela and Estes that can also inflict slow.
you are in a game, playing adc, hylos gets picked, goes to your lane lvl 4, gets behind your wave, hylos ults you, you run to your turret somehow, he follow behind, activates vengeance, enemy adc kills you, and when he is about to die to the turret, he gets + 1500hp and runs away
HAHAHHAHA BAN HYLOS
ANGELA ROT HYLOS JUNGLE OR XP GG
That's the 4th buff on Karrie in a row...
bc of kishin densetsu skin coming lmao
@@lynix9195 The what?
@@ICE-KING-2cant u fkn read?
@@lynix9195But yet the skins got cancelled for a year 💀
So many tanks getting buffed so it makes sense
The developer who came up with yss revamp deserves to be in Jaill
straight up copying hok hero😂
Thanks wu ze tian for that
And if they try to make it global range, its going to be regarded as a copied gp ult
They did that because his ultimate is similar to the new hero wu zetia
@Rennxyy-2But similar to Aurora.
ALL THOSE WHO STAND IN MY WAY WILL BE DEVOURED
OMGGGG
They use the same voice actor for hayabusa 😂😂😂. Just like vale and claude
Chang'e and Yve will love the new supp emblem for sure i just realised 😂
Valir*
@@bythe_xsword yup him too i always forget him
Even Lylia and Aurora can use it. They act as utility mages, after all.
I think its better if they just completely changed the wishing lantern into lost hp instead of current hp, as the butterflies will only attack the enemy after you have dealt damage to them which is different with the Demon hunter sword, as the demon hunter sword's passive can be easily proc as soon as you land a basic attack.
@@isaiahduran9495 just like every other item, dmg are calculated BEFORE the skill hits an ennemy, so it deals 10% of his HP BEFORE being damaged by the skill
the point of it is to counter tanks, and that isnt even a problem because thats not how the damage calculation works, you don't even know what youre talking about.
the point of the item is to melt down high hp tanks, if you're looking to burst down enemies, lightning truncheon does it better with similar stats
that would completely invalidate the item's purpose, ud be better off with a skypiercer if you want a finisher
wait did the brute froce armor passive change get cancelled? i really like it for the extra 120damge increase
Where were you
Yeah it got canceled and now its back to being a useless ahh item, thanks moonton
Deadass, that buff was too overpowered, having 120 attack just because of having 2.5k+ extra HP is not something you would like to see when used by fighters, if I were to apply that thing to my sustain Dyr, he would hit as hard as a goddamn assassin while only having war axe and hunter strike to begin with, plus the attack on queen's wings is going to be way too painful, that's literally 2/3 the attack as the blade of despair and in top of that, it's a defense füçkïñg item, yeah, not a good adjustment to begin with, it's going to bring back tank jungle which Moonton recently dealt with.
@Gokuknows I agree with you and still Bruteforce simply sucks and the 2 adaptive attack buff per stack is not gonna do anything. They could have made it give 6% movement speed + another 1% movement speed for every stack. That would make the item more useful
@treeseeker5884 it already has movement speed + CC reduction in it, and the 8 attack per stack may not matter a lot to you, but I swear, that hurts enough for a fighter that's literally running quite fast, you'll get a good 48 with it, combining it with queen's wings and you pretty much have a hunter strike with you with just DEF items, DEF items, those items aren't supposed to hurt, so you may get the whole gimmick about the items wrong, because BFB is quiet literally OP with YZ if you can use him good.
We can now build Uranus with
- emblem support
- inspire atribut (+2 mana regen)
- impure rage (mana regen)
- clock of destiny (mana regen)
WHERE'S THE DAMN LANE SELECTION??
IM TIRED OF 3 MONO ADC IN MY TEAM
Probably still in testing, not sure why they're so slow in releasing it
Yup
I'm calling it. It's going to be next season.
removed
I dont mind waiting but pls tell me they wont cancel it@@lieuso7
When will it be on the main servers?
Maybe 18th jan
Cuz hanzo revamp will be released into Og server on that time
I noticed since chip can teleport anywhere the cool down also increase by 80 second it's basically like a spell for chip only
Thanks for the update Mr. Elgin
tank meta gonna go crazy💀
tank will be good. tank jungle not good
Good thing they buffed Uranus because he’s been barely noticed by the developers😌.
@@duskgleam4634 yup only buffing defense wont help in clearing speed, no chance to compete w suyou or this damn lukas
@@Jaylordleguiz2468same with Baxia
Fr bro takes like half your hp in his one first skill even when he doesn't have any offensive items @@PandaEnPleurs
Roam will be fun after this patch, I'm hoping sustain/spellvamp fighters to come back on this meta
That Selena stun viewer is great for people with Samsung Fold series that make it hard to Pan around map as you can only Pan using the Top Quarter of the screen in its Wide screen mode which makes extremely difficult as opposed to the normal Candybar shape phones.
they just buffed uranus, baxia and barats, aka my mains ? okay I might play this game again
i hope it goes on official server i used to play a lot of esme, uranus and barats xp
Uranus is also my main
If I'm not wrong it's gonna release on the 18th of jan because hanzo revamp [he almost finished]
I really needed Uranus to get Buffed for once
I loved the emblen's Adjustments
Karrie getting buffed for Kishin Densetsu. Selena for Zenith.
Temporal Reign and Inspire is an indirect Buff to Cyclops.
By combining Genius Wand, Buffed Cursed Helmet and Silvanna's passive, Silvanna can now reach the Maximum -60 Magic Defense.
And Guinevere players will love it as well I think.
Looks like my Chip-Roamer-Pusher strat is gonna be meta. :)
LOL at tenacity, the only nerf in these adjustments.
it still does the same amount of defense but to trigger are the problem for non tanks especially mm heroes whose using this
Focus mark is actually game changer! I always want to use it as a support/tank player but most of the time, I have bad teamates so I just carry with Blast.
I feel the tenacity when I'm almost dead anyways so it's not too bad
Love that Pull Yourself Together buff as a damage roam
The mini camera shot on selena's skill is a big help.
Not really because it would take most of the view if enemy ganks u and u stun one
It.would be better if they did something like below her hp bar like a warning
And selena is one of my mains
@@1HPSmurf coul've been wayyy better to make it like novaria's second skill, without extra vision just a bigger point of view when on this form, or like layla lvl12 but again without extra vision u'll still see the ennemies at the same distance without a nearest allie
@@slamaniamine5491
Its jz a small view,like moskov ult.
Its the same play as moskov,u know which one got stunned and u make ur play from there.
@@PandaEnPleurs
Yea,it'll be much better if the camera zooms out while holding the arrow or jz zoom out when it hits a target.
Well. Selena banned will be the meta now.
I wonder if Temporal Reign will finally have a use for Minotaur now that the duration can be extended with Assists.
I'm pretty happy with these new changes, roamers will be eating well if these are implemented. I do hope Tenacity is changed because they really made it worse lmao. Perhaps small Damage Reduction? (10% maybe? Or maybe with level scaling until 10% at late game or whatever)
Flicker+ Ice queen cd being reduced drastically will benefit Odette the most! I wonder if she getting a new skin
For tenacity, they should give it some sort of secondary effect aside from low hp defense points, because its definetely one of the most neglible talent even for its intended users, atleast other talents can be a good pick in their niche.
Martis is gonna have a field day with the buffed temporal reign.
I think the tenacity is supposed to activate when you lose 35% hp and I still think it's bad because it's just 15 hybrid def if it's 25 it would be doable
Tank jungle meta is back which means rafa, estes will be back to the meta
Questionnnn
If I get 2k mmr does he reset when the new season comes around and if he does how much does it go to is it based on the mmr/rank you get in the season or does it reset to the same for everyone?
2k mmr is so low, basically there is no point asking about mmr if you only have 2k in first place.
So they canceled brute force gives dmg from hp?
The emblem and item update is crazy
I liked almost every change in the server. The ones I didn't are Chip's and YSS's. I like Chip as it is now, but if I am to nerf him, I'd just give a 1s delay on his teleports and lower his shields. For YSS we just need an indicator for his melee and distant attacks.
Update on fragments please
Wtf did they do to tenacity? Have the devs forgot there's sky piercer, execute and dire hit?! You're basically dead before tenacity gives you defense buff
Kapag bumalik veewise sure meta nnmn nila yan dahil goods sa support yung bagong emblem at pasok sa playstyle ni vee + buffs din mga hero ni wise
i think killing spree should require to atleast do a certain % dmg threshold for triggering on assist
I'm a Xavier main, and I already used the temporal reign talent, imagine now ❤
focusing mark being active for 3 seconds is crazy
They might really be bringing Tank Meta back. Those changes to the talents seems to play around with having better synergy to Damage Roamers for when the Junglers are Tanks.
When release the adjustment of selena??
i main chip and his new adjustment is gonna be very very good.. i’m ready for it !!
Luo Yi needs some adjustments 😅. Ultimate Cooldown nerf (60s --> 80s) plus add mana cost (120, 180, 240). In exchange, her passive should pull enemies harder (closer to each other or 2nd skill), and her 1st and 2nd skill should have lower mana cost (50-90 > 40-70 in 1st skill and 120-170 > 100-150 in 2nd skill). This should give her more potential in solo play while toning down her capabilities in team-organized matches. She's a top pick in team tournaments but she's rarely picked in solo matches.
IMO, they could've just adjusted the defense Tenacity provides. Like, idk, maybe double the defense stats if a tank or fighter is using it? Or maybe make it scale with HP or hybrid defense. Just don't touch the trigger condition; in that way, both squishy and durable heroes can still benefit from it.
0:35 it's meaningless they just had to boost the heal or movement speed
Where is the lane lock? Why is it not here yet?
Temporal reign is crazy
Need that Chip update right now on original server
Looks like Tank/Support meta gonna come now.
Yve and valir using the new focusing mark while also using ice queen wand 💀
Valir's slow effect + burning effect + Glowing Wand
Tanks a lot moontoon
As a Gloo player, I'm doing backflips right now
If hanzo revamp is finally official in the official server before the end of jan, i get play him in my school foundation esport tournament.
When is the update?
They should make it so that one pairs of boots have a passive where each kill or assist grants more gold
Good for roamers
There's something like that at old times 😂 tho they removed it
There was a boots that had that passive. Miss that boots
Hanzo new design feels like he's a cracked addict lol well to be fair he is possessed by evil that makes powerful and corrupted
It’s because of that wild dog Lukas that made Montoon rethink and buff equipments and other roles
Imagine getting hit by a Johnson has a focusing Mark with ur flicked on CD after this gets patched 😂
Elgin is using the heroes that can greatly benefit from these talents
Tank hyper meta gon be back shehs
I just want the old fighter emblem back where you do more dmg with lower hp
Love you Elgin!!
Basically, Tank Meta is Back!
Assassin's mains just wait until exp and tanks mains see this
Nice selena adjustments🎉
So the new support emblem is a better version of weakness finder
Niche question but what if someone dies to minions or tower past the one second for killing spree... do you get the kill but no healing?
the non existent Ling damage slight buff is what im most interested in
We Definitely gonna love this patchhhh
This is best update they r experimenting in right way with the unused talents
That Chip's buff is crazy.
When will it be in original server?
Finally a satisfying update..
Esma buffed here i come 😊😊
Belerick with cursed helm with radiant gona be scary asf
They should make PYT and Focusing Mark exclusive for tank and support heroes. Then, non-tank and non-support heroes would receive half of the benefits.
We're goint support meta with this one ladies and gentlemen
maybe Moonton knew that other countries have a fighting chance if they bring back the tank jg instead of the assasin/damage focus meta, good move since we have more versitility and other heroes might be pick because of the adjustment. 👍🏿
How about the flameshots???
Heyy i got a question If I get 2k mmr does he reset when the new season comes around and if he does how much does it go to is it based on the mmr/rank you get in the season or does it reset to the same for everyone?
Focusing mark will be strong for mages and some fighters as well. Just imagine cici with ice queen wand, or xborg with ice queen AND focusing mark 💀
That's an almost 50% slow effect
I am excited for Hanzo
Belerick with the new killing spree talent will be a regen machine since he gets assists very easily
Keuntungan besar bikin hari ini makin ceria, makasih DEW𝐴𝘋𝐎𝑅𝘼!
The ganking potential of Chip is crazy
Когда на основных серверах будет?
It would be better if killing spree was unaffected by anti heal, it was already nerfed a lot in the past. Anti heal ruins the whole point of killing spree.
no way it's too op
about the updates im just getting excited on hanzo😁😂
The definition of "Strongest ninja has arrived "
i don’t play those heroes nothing to be exited about and the items seems alright
I can already imagine Zhuxin being a bigger problem with the focusing mark talent
karrie, yve and lunox would've love this patch.
Imagine combining killing spree with red roam boot(i forgot what name it is)
Adding mana regen on Inspire talent will be a huge help for mages and supports and I can see Chip getting perma banned again in MPL