Worked for a smaller family owned company for 29 years and they paid me a better than average wage. Told owners ( a sister and brother) of my desire to retire and asked them if they wanted me to train my replacement. They asked me to sell the company for them insted so we all could retire. I did that for them and they paid me a nice bonus as a thanks on the way out the door. I consider my self fortunate and grateful for my work career.
I also worked for a good company, I told them a couple years ahead of time I was going out at 66. This ended up being right at the start of the pandemic when they had to let a bunch of people go so my timing was pretty good. I have no regrets and feel so blessed. Now I work part time because I like work.
That is nearly the exact same story as mine. I stayed on an extra 11 months to help them transition my systems. Then the day I left, my boss didn't even come into the office. When they called me 1 month after I retired for help, I told them my contract rate is $175 an hour.
That’s terrible that your boss felt no desire, or even duty, to thank you, shake your hand, and see you off. Good job on the consultancy rate. I just advised that to some lady in a comment, who let them walk all over her.
I worked for a small government contractor for 25 years. Last December, I was ready to go part-time after all that time working on projects and being the IT Director. The last week of December, they asked me to take a pay cut of $30 an hour, even though my project to IT time was 70/30. When I refused, I received an email from the CEO saying my last day was December 31, 2022. So much for loyalty or appreciation for all the hard work I had put in! Then they told everyone at the company that I had decided to retire. I am glad that I have retired. I had been planning it since I was 50 years old when I paid off all of my bills. My health and frame of mind have improved immensely at the ripe old age of 58.
@@lmilostr Joshua Fluke’s channel is specific to IT. Apparently they change jobs every 2-3 years to get bumps in salary. He says you get a bigger raise by changing jobs than from going hat-in-hand to ask your boss for a raise, which usually just ends in frustration over their gaslighting and manipulation.
Hi Josh. I retired from the NYPD after 21 years I remembered what an old time cop told me when I started on patrol in the Bronx. He said, "kid, never forget you are just a number. This job doesn't care about you. When you retire and turn in your shield the last thing you'll hear is the person at the personnel desk yelling 'NEXT!'. I thought he was burnt out. Over two decades later when I retired and handed in my shield the last thing I heard as I was heading for the door was,'NEXT!'. I thought to myself, S.O.B. was right. I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and keep the faith.
Amen brother. Retired LE after 32 years. Same thing. Your just a cog in the machine. Nobody cares whether you stay or leave. Get out while your still sane!
My boss congratulated me and told me he'd recommend anyone retire if they had the chance. It was a manufacturing plant, so individuals were a small step above being just a clock number. All the management people I spoke with wished me a happy retirement.
I was fortunate to get the last laugh on my exit. I retired on my terms, but my company hadn't prepared well and begged me to come back as a casual employee to fill in until they secured my replacement. "Generously" they offered to pay me my previous hourly rate, of course no benefits. I knew they were in a jam for dragging their feet, I counter offered a rate 2X my previous rate of pay, they reluctantly agreed. I gave them another six months, then I ended it.
I was forced out August of 2022 after 40 years from a large I.T company. Fortunately, my current boss warned me it would happen, so I knew it was coming. What did he say to me, sorry, but your job is offshored, and we don't need you anymore! That was it! I did get 2 months' severance. However, I got the last laugh. I started saving for that day in my early twenties. I told my boss, as we hung up the phone, look, I am going to be okay. I really don't need to work anymore. The power of investing really paid off, and at 62, I will be just fine! Let's face it, it was always going to end, so maybe I didn't pick how it would end, but I did control what would happen after it ended. Retired and doing just fine.
I worked for the world’s largest airline for 34 years as a pilot. I was out processed by the Chief Pilot office secretary- I turned in company equipment and I.D. I finished the out processing checklist, turned around and walked out. I know it during Corona Virus, but could not even an assistant Chief Pilot say bye?
I was an engineer on a salary, working long hours. When I gave notice, the boss made me leave with all of my books during a thunderstorm . I asked if I could leave my books and pick them up the next day, and they refused.
I am planning of retiring in 2 years. Your company cannot ask you when you will retire, so it is hard to plan for when people will retire. My boss is a good guy and I have known him for 15 years. Over the years he has helped me and I have helped him. So I told him I will give him 6 months notice when I decide to retire.
Everyone has a boss and they paid me for my services. I did not work to make friends, I worked to provide a good living for my family. It worked out well for me and the family and I feel blessed to have had the many things that came from my toil/productivity. Life is like pulling your hand from a bucket of water, when you pull your hand out everything fills in around you. Take the best and leave the rest!!
Fred, what a terrible thing that was. How cruel and envious people can be. I hope the best revenge is that you are now enjoying a great, relaxing retirement.
I had a boss once that said companies are like social paths, they will do what they need to do to survive, they can fake empathy or knock you off as needed.
Gave my notice almost two weeks ago. My boss was very happy for me, of course he was sad I'd be gone too. At the end of the week they broke it to the rest of the company and projects I was taking care of. Everyone has been very happy for me. They really are like family and through my tough times have taken care of me. I have been very fortunate to have such a great place to work. Sorry to hear the comments of others that they have not had such a good experience. BTW, my job wasn't a COJ, it was just time. As Josh has said, "You won the game, why are you still playing?"
When I retired, my employer was extremely appreciative of my contributions. I felt that when I retired, I didn’t owe them anything and they didn’t owe me anything either. This is the best case scenario, at least as far as I’m concerned.
After 40 years of corporate work I learned that there is zero desire for our employee happiness rather all about the company long term profit. That taught me to be fully a mercinary with principles when it came to work and decided to only stayed in a role where the balanced 3 were met. I had to have fun, make a decent wage and make a positive contribution. If one was missing, I wuld seek a new role or change my reality to get back to the balanced 3. At 40 years of work I gladly left and never looked back.
I never would have guessed what my boss said when I told him I wanted to retire. He said “The employee handbook states give two week notice”. After 29 years I left 5 minutes later and went back once to sign docs to get my unpaid vacation. And my company also told everyone I retired.
Sad situation but everyone needs to keep in mind what the priorities of companies are. Profits. Employees are a means to an end. Of course some and Boss's are much better than others. We all work to provide for our families. It's easy to forget that. I was terminated in 20 minutes once after 15 years of helping manage a large scale mfg plant because a new regime wanted new blood. But karma came for them too 6 months later. My work ethic is still intact but I do now look after #1 first. My health, relationships and spiritual well being are also much better. I missed way too much family time the last 20 years giving 150%.
After a month, a few people might remember your name at work, after a couple months, maybe a co-worker friend or two, after three, no one notices anymore. Life moves on.
I worked for an oil mega-corp for 25 years. Within a year of my retirement, about 3 years ago, I was complaining a little in a private conversation with my like minded boss about the company's direction. I'll always remember his response - "Yeah, the company is getting F'ed up, but I accept their apologies on the 1st and 15th of every month.". I imagine that quote will stick with me until the end, I still smile.
I’m 55yrs old and I’m retiring in a year. With or without me, the company will move on. As Josh always says, they are not your friend, it’s your family and true friends that really matter. If it wasn’t for Josh, I never would have known I can retire early, so thank you Josh!!! I am spreading the word about your channel and hopefully you can help more people see the light.
Nope. Employers are not “friends”. It is a very transactional relationship. Once your contribution is deemed “not valued” - you gone without so much as a goodbye.
With your help Josh I decided to retire last December. I had worked for a 2 doctor eye practice for 33 years and decided I had enough stress and worry and it was time to retire. I tried to retire at the end of 2021 and the docs convince need me stay for 6 months, and then to stay until they found the right person. That turned into training the new person and staying an extra 10 months. When I finally put my foot down and put an absolute end date, they stopped talking too me, tried to deny my vacation and sick time. Lucky for me my replacement made sure I got what was due me, because she knew they would do the same to anyone, including her when it was her time to leave. I have not heard a word from my old “family” since the day I left. Nice to know life goes on. My advice is do what is right for you, because most companies are looking out for themselves at your expense. Retire as soon as possible. I retired at 53 and should have went sooner. YOLO
Apparently if you stay, they start looking for you replacement and mistreating you. They do not want to pay that higher rate, they just want you to leave on their terms, not yours. They probably wait until you expand your lifestyle to use the higher income, so you won’t be able to make the payment on your new house when they yank the rug out from under you. Sickos. I learned about these games on Joshua Fluke’s channel.
IMO...Our generation thought companies and bosses appreciated us for the life long work we gave them. As I watch more of my friends retiring...they couldn't care less. We were fools...
True and I’ve watched this happen at my job. A close friend retired after 40 years and they told him, they we’re going to take him out for lunch, didn’t happen. Those POS can kiss my butt if they think I’m going to give them a notice.
I retired on my own terms ten years ago today! Worked for a large defense contractor and had enough of the nonsense they fished out. Gave them three months notice but was ready if they walked me out. They didn’t and surprised me by hiring a replacement in time for me to train. Two of my peers left shortly after I did. Life is good.
I served in the Army 27 years. To my “Army family” I’m deader than George Patton. I knew that going in so not broken hearted. They just better not ask me to come back and serve the current regime. Fool me once…
I retired 4 years ago at age 66 and gave the company 11 months' notice. I feel lucky I retired on my terms and had zero stress in a high stress environment during my last year at work.
I don't have a problem with someone saying I hope you find what your looking for to me. Its just about the context maybe someone says that to everyone and sometimes it doesn't apply
I had an interesting last year and half working for the State of Florida. I was in a Senior Management position after years of climbing the latter. I was basically being forced out, but the funny part I was getting ready to retire anyway which made the effort to force me out a waste of time. I was treated very poorly at the end of my career, but it really had no impact on me as I was focused on retirement. The state is now having a very difficult filing position. Things have really changed. If I was young person, I would be looking to have my own business and developed a number of revenue streams. Working for organizations is not good. This sounds so familiar and betting there are a number of people experiencing the same thang.
I work in senior management in local government in Florida. State has a reputation for low pay and being a meat grinder. Glad you made it out and we’re planning on retirement anyway.
Being young and an independent contractor is very difficult. Senior managers in State governments don't want to work with young independent professionals. If you already have your tiny house paid off with a little dividend income to cover food and housing costs, then sure, try to get on a contract. Otherwise, W2...
I learned awhile ago that everyone is replaceable in a corporation. No matter how experienced, smart, capable or skilled. I just retired at age 66 after 40 years in IT and enjoyed my job for the most part. But it was time to go and I am not looking back.
So very true Josh. Your just another number. When you leave another number just falls into place. I was lucky the last guy I worked for, I started working for him when I was at Cat then when I was self-employed, and then as an employee for him for the last five years . He took me out to eat and sent me on my way.🎉
Sadly, Josh that's all too common with today's upper management. My bosses didn't have the temerity to let me go gracefully. Instead, they eliminated my and a colleague position and turned around and hired replacements for us. Real "class" act.
Agree need to look out for #1 Retired in 2020 at 58yr, Gave 8 mo notice and could have given 2 wks if I wanted. 2nd level boss calls me in his office and talked to me from his position only and tried to convince me to stay and never once said congratulations, never said wish you the best, never said wish you could stay longer but I understand your life is priority #1. Selfish talk. Hope he gave the next retiree better treatment than me.
There's a reason I've followed a couple manager types through 4 companies now. They treat people right and they appreciate you. If you have options, why would you ever want to work for someone that doesn't care about you one way or the other?
I’m so glad I won’t have to deal with that when I retire. Everyone always says congratulations, good luck and so on. I feel for that guy on his disappointment like he never mattered. His CEO is a PO💩!
That is good advice, I recently became a supervisor and I am mediately hate it. And I have been saying to myself that I’m going to stick around to do some good things in the office and clean some stuff up with paperwork and other stuff and then I will retire. And you’re right, I don’t know the company anything. And after I decide to retire I will be easily replaced and it will be like I never existed
I like to work and I like where I work. I'm two years past my FRA and still plan to stay there until I want but I let them know that if things start going terribly wrong, I'm out of there.
Great! Never retire. Did Moses retire? Does anything in nature retire? Six days work, one day rest. Sabbaticals and long vacations, even. Retire? Never.
I quit my job in January after 28 years at 52. I gave them 6 months notice. My bosses right up to the CEO wished me well and publicly thanked me for my contributions. Not all companies are ass holes.
My last was yesterday after 36 years. Finally drew the short straw in head count reduction at 60. Have a lead with a client for another job, but trying to figure out is I should just retire. Not sure what to do.
During employment in my younger years there were a group of guys bitching. The Supervisor told everyone that you are here to work, not to have a good time. "Hope you find what you are looking for" is a pretty good comment.
I was fortunate enough to work for a good privately owned company for my last 7 years. I was asked to train my replacement and of course I complied. On my last day I was given two watches by my coworkers ( I am a collector ) and the President came into the lab to present me with an appreciation plaque. I have two weeks of extra pay to take me to the end of the month as a bonus from the boss. I was paid well by this company and have absolutely no complaints. I wish I would have discovered them earlier in my career.
Retired when i was 60 years old on my birthday didn’t expect anything special.They 😮weren’t my family or best friends I already had those.was there to make a living thankful they hired me 34 years ago.Very happy and in much better health.Thank you Lord.
My stepfather received a gold Rolex from work. He never wears it because it’s so heavy. The statistics on who buys a Rolex are interesting. Mostly it’s aspirational, not the wealthy.
Guess im strange but when the biggest airline in ATL coerced the older employees including me to go i didn't stress over it. Spent 42 plus there but i just moved on because i knew i was a number from day one.
One thing you want to do when you retire is train yourself in being a "handyman". Timelines, costs and the quality of work a lot of people you hire these days is on a very sharp decline......I've found I can do a lot of these jobs better than what shows up at the house these days. Do this and you will save a lot of money. Example...my under cabinet reverse osmosis system wasn't working. Contractor quoted me $1800 to replace. Found on TH-cam that I could just replace the water container that holds the pressure for $48.00. Took literally 5 minutes to replace.
Companies are not families and families are not companies. Like you said, there is nothing wrong with companies' priorities being profit driven and our priorities being not in the company. Our values are not in our job or work, so we just have to set our priorities right.
My boss kissed my butt until the last two weeks before I retired. Because so many people were leaving during COVID he had me doing all the most difficult work and training two new people at the same time. On the last day I came in to clean out my desk and he wouldn't even shake my hand! I was honest and upfront with him about my retirement several years in advance! That was a huge mistake!
Right on. I think when I’m ready, I’ll start burning my sick time and screw them over for months. Then when they think they got me, I’ll tell them to come and get your truck.
Which is why I am not even giving them notice. One day I will just not show up. Maybe I will send them a text that I am retired. Companies do not appreciate workers.
worked for big intl transport company. two of us in my dept, in the whole state, my colleague covered North, I covered South. Paid hourly, not management. Not supposed to be called on at home. I took calls at home on nights and weekends. I sometimes on weekends had to travel into North to fix issue, because my colleague never answered his work provided phone. His day ended at his scheduled time regardless. If i had issue I would stay until resolved, often times not on clock. when it came time for corp to cut it back to one support person in state, guess who got axed...
The Boss said: "Josh, stop drinking and go home, you retired a year ago". ;) lol. Seriously though, the boss could had complemented the employee for his work. I wonder if there was a back story.
From a well-off friend who retired even earlier than I did: " A $200 Japanese-made Citizen watch tells time just as accurately as a $20,000 European-made Rolex watch." You're the only one watching out for you. Due to some bad employment experiences early in my full-time work life I started investing early. When I was in my 60s and things started to get nasty at work for us older folks (we were still on the old company pension plan, and change in management direction to more bureaucracy), I was able to walk out at age 61 when they gave incentives at the height of the pandemic. Good riddance!
If you know the company may downsize due to financials it might be best to wait for a severance package. My job was outsourced overseas but I was able to get a full year's pay due to my tenure with the company during the 2008/2009 great recession. I was in my upper 50's and still needed to work. The severence gave me time to secure another job during a very difficult job market without worrying about paying the bills or withdrawing from savings.
Josh towards the end of my career I always heard these comments. "You cannot do this job forever." "Once you hang it up do not look back." Both comments both hit home with as my job was stressful and very physical. Since my retirement at the end of 2022 I am virtually stress free and I have not looked back. Each day I move forward with complete happiness. I do projects at my own pace and help local organizations as well as donate to them when I have the time available. I do it because I care about my community and the people that reside in it. Thanks for this video.
I made poor career decisions in my 20s because of my sense of obligation. I later learned the means to success. Achieved some. I can't regret those decisions because I never would have met my godly wife. She is worth much more than a career. BTW, 6 digit USAA number.
Absolutely agree. the big man don't care about you or your retirement. Even the Departing unit when I retired didn't give a rats ass about the 24 years of service I put into the Army when I was getting out. they didn't even get me a retirement gift. who cares anyway right? My retirement gift to myself was a 75K job a year for the last 13 yrs that I have right now that I'm 5 months away from retiring again...along with my wife at the same time. COJ gone for good.
I have a great boss, but if he gets promoted/ wins powerball and they replace him with a bone head, I'm done. Next time you're in Maine, Josh, I'd be honored to buy dinner for you and your wife.
Sounds like the boss is jealous of him. I would imagine that people who retire early in life, and earlier than their older piers, are often a little bitter that a younger person can retire and they cannot.
Josh unfortunately that's the culture nowadays of upper level management and even owners and I'm sure you know this all too well from hearing all the stories from people. It's really pretty sad what our culture is turned into. It's dog eat dog that's why you've got to take care of yourself.
I get what you are saying but I was a small business owner. Over almost 5 years I had 4 employees: Employee #1 - Fired because they was late 3 times and missed 1 day in their first 4-6 weeks of working for me.. (I was only 3 days a week.) Eventually I had to talk with a judge because I refused to pay them unemployment. Employee #2 - Fired because they lied straight to my face. I had left early because I get migraine headaches and I told them to just stay and answer the phones. When I woke up at 4:30 pm I called and no one answered. I called back 4 times more until 5:00 pm and never once was the phone answered. The next day when we were at worked I asked them we then left and they said 5:00 pm. I went to the phone system and showed where I had called. Their excuse was that they were in the bathroom for 30 minutes. Employee #3 - Fired for theft and I called in the police. ..... with this kind of work ethic from American workers, why should a company have loyalty back ? I have been an employer and an employee and the morality of this country is gone.
@@dforrest4503 I paid them more then I got paid so now how will you indirectly try and insult me. No matter how much you get paid, lying and stealing are never acceptable.
After 18 yrs , gave them a two week notice ….. Companies that say “ we cant find anyone that wants to work “ = “ we cant find anyone to exploit anymore “
5 months to go... maybe earlier, if hiring the perm fill moves faster than normal. My boss says "you've earned it" and "thank you" for taking care of some critical issues since I agreed to take care of a problem. And "I hope you find what you're looking for...".
I work in a skilled engineering business, in 2016 , I was booked for two weeks holidays, a big contract came in, my boss had let a colleague go and was overseas, he pleaded with me to not take, the holidays , after some time I passed and stayed at work, he promised me he would look after me, time passed my boss got a promotion, my colleague got a holiday, I got a hard time from my partner, never seen any bonus, and really felt stupid. I changed company, 6 months later 💥
Worked for a smaller family owned company for 29 years and they paid me a better than average wage. Told owners ( a sister and brother) of my desire to retire and asked them if they wanted me to train my replacement. They asked me to sell the company for them insted so we all could retire. I did that for them and they paid me a nice bonus as a thanks on the way out the door. I consider my self fortunate and grateful for my work career.
I also worked for a good company, I told them a couple years ahead of time I was going out at 66. This ended up being right at the start of the pandemic when they had to let a bunch of people go so my timing was pretty good. I have no regrets and feel so blessed. Now I work part time because I like work.
What a great story! That is a real team.
That is nearly the exact same story as mine. I stayed on an extra 11 months to help them transition my systems. Then the day I left, my boss didn't even come into the office. When they called me 1 month after I retired for help, I told them my contract rate is $175 an hour.
I love it!
That’s terrible that your boss felt no desire, or even duty, to thank you, shake your hand, and see you off. Good job on the consultancy rate. I just advised that to some lady in a comment, who let them walk all over her.
Good for you. 22yrs for me and now no one ever calls.. sniff... hahahah
I worked for a small government contractor for 25 years. Last December, I was ready to go part-time after all that time working on projects and being the IT Director. The last week of December, they asked me to take a pay cut of $30 an hour, even though my project to IT time was 70/30. When I refused, I received an email from the CEO saying my last day was December 31, 2022. So much for loyalty or appreciation for all the hard work I had put in! Then they told everyone at the company that I had decided to retire.
I am glad that I have retired. I had been planning it since I was 50 years old when I paid off all of my bills. My health and frame of mind have improved immensely at the ripe old age of 58.
@@lmilostr Joshua Fluke’s channel is specific to IT. Apparently they change jobs every 2-3 years to get bumps in salary. He says you get a bigger raise by changing jobs than from going hat-in-hand to ask your boss for a raise, which usually just ends in frustration over their gaslighting and manipulation.
Hi Josh. I retired from the NYPD after 21 years I remembered what an old time cop told me when I started on patrol in the Bronx. He said, "kid, never forget you are just a number. This job doesn't care about you. When you retire and turn in your shield the last thing you'll hear is the person at the personnel desk yelling 'NEXT!'. I thought he was burnt out. Over two decades later when I retired and handed in my shield the last thing I heard as I was heading for the door was,'NEXT!'. I thought to myself, S.O.B. was right.
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and keep the faith.
Amen brother. Retired LE after 32 years. Same thing. Your just a cog in the machine. Nobody cares whether you stay or leave. Get out while your still sane!
My boss congratulated me and told me he'd recommend anyone retire if they had the chance.
It was a manufacturing plant, so individuals were a small step above being just a clock number.
All the management people I spoke with wished me a happy retirement.
That says a lot about you Blain. Congrats.
I was fortunate to get the last laugh on my exit. I retired on my terms, but my company hadn't prepared well and begged me to come back as a casual employee to fill in until they secured my replacement. "Generously" they offered to pay me my previous hourly rate, of course no benefits. I knew they were in a jam for dragging their feet, I counter offered a rate 2X my previous rate of pay, they reluctantly agreed. I gave them another six months, then I ended it.
I was forced out August of 2022 after 40 years from a large I.T company. Fortunately, my current boss warned me it would happen, so I knew it was coming. What did he say to me, sorry, but your job is offshored, and we don't need you anymore! That was it! I did get 2 months' severance. However, I got the last laugh. I started saving for that day in my early twenties.
I told my boss, as we hung up the phone, look, I am going to be okay. I really don't need to work anymore.
The power of investing really paid off, and at 62, I will be just fine! Let's face it, it was always going to end, so maybe I didn't pick how it would end, but I did control what would happen after it ended. Retired and doing just fine.
I love hearing a winning story. Congratulations and enjoy!
I worked for the world’s largest airline for 34 years as a pilot. I was out processed by the Chief Pilot office secretary- I turned in company equipment and I.D. I finished the out processing checklist, turned around and walked out. I know it during Corona Virus, but could not even an assistant Chief Pilot say bye?
I was an engineer on a salary, working long hours. When I gave notice, the boss made me leave with all of my books during a thunderstorm . I asked if I could leave my books and pick them up the next day, and they refused.
That tells you all you need to know
I guess everyone should learn don’t retire in a thunderstorm
@@patricke170 😂
I am planning of retiring in 2 years.
Your company cannot ask you when you will retire, so it is hard to plan for when people will retire.
My boss is a good guy and I have known him for 15 years.
Over the years he has helped me and I have helped him.
So I told him I will give him 6 months notice when I decide to retire.
Everyone has a boss and they paid me for my services. I did not work to make friends, I worked to provide a good living for my family. It worked out well for me and the family and I feel blessed to have had the many things that came from my toil/productivity.
Life is like pulling your hand from a bucket of water, when you pull your hand out everything fills in around you.
Take the best and leave the rest!!
Back in the day when I was young and worked for Jack Welsh, I learned early on and never forgot what he said - Every two weeks we are even!
When I retired I was told they were jealous, hated me, and get out now. No two week notice required. True story. This was from a bank working in IT.
Fred, what a terrible thing that was. How cruel and envious people can be. I hope the best revenge is that you are now enjoying a great, relaxing retirement.
I had a boss once that said companies are like social paths, they will do what they need to do to survive, they can fake empathy or knock you off as needed.
Gave my notice almost two weeks ago. My boss was very happy for me, of course he was sad I'd be gone too. At the end of the week they broke it to the rest of the company and projects I was taking care of. Everyone has been very happy for me. They really are like family and through my tough times have taken care of me. I have been very fortunate to have such a great place to work. Sorry to hear the comments of others that they have not had such a good experience. BTW, my job wasn't a COJ, it was just time. As Josh has said, "You won the game, why are you still playing?"
When I retired, my employer was extremely appreciative of my contributions. I felt that when I retired, I didn’t owe them anything and they didn’t owe me anything either. This is the best case scenario, at least as far as I’m concerned.
Josh you rock and speak the truth. You’re one of the best on TH-cam.
After 40 years of corporate work I learned that there is zero desire for our employee happiness rather all about the company long term profit. That taught me to be fully a mercinary with principles when it came to work and decided to only stayed in a role where the balanced 3 were met. I had to have fun, make a decent wage and make a positive contribution. If one was missing, I wuld seek a new role or change my reality to get back to the balanced 3. At 40 years of work I gladly left and never looked back.
T minus 3 weeks and counting. There will be a new butt in my chair before anyone sees it coming. Life goes on, but mine will be much, much better.
I always said it doesn’t matter if your the janitor or the CEO if you dropped dead tomorrow they will replace you almost immediately..
I never would have guessed what my boss said when I told him I wanted to retire. He said “The employee handbook states give two week notice”. After 29 years I left 5 minutes later and went back once to sign docs to get my unpaid vacation. And my company also told everyone I retired.
Sad situation but everyone needs to keep in mind what the priorities of companies are. Profits. Employees are a means to an end. Of course some and Boss's are much better than others. We all work to provide for our families. It's easy to forget that. I was terminated in 20 minutes once after 15 years of helping manage a large scale mfg plant because a new regime wanted new blood. But karma came for them too 6 months later. My work ethic is still intact but I do now look after #1 first. My health, relationships and spiritual well being are also much better. I missed way too much family time the last 20 years giving 150%.
After a month, a few people might remember your name at work, after a couple months, maybe a co-worker friend or two, after three, no one notices anymore. Life moves on.
I worked for an oil mega-corp for 25 years. Within a year of my retirement, about 3 years ago, I was complaining a little in a private conversation with my like minded boss about the company's direction. I'll always remember his response - "Yeah, the company is getting F'ed up, but I accept their apologies on the 1st and 15th of every month.". I imagine that quote will stick with me until the end, I still smile.
Greatness!
I’m 55yrs old and I’m retiring in a year. With or without me, the company will move on. As Josh always says, they are not your friend, it’s your family and true friends that really matter.
If it wasn’t for Josh, I never would have known I can retire early, so thank you Josh!!!
I am spreading the word about your channel and hopefully you can help more people see the light.
Nope. Employers are not “friends”. It is a very transactional relationship. Once your contribution is deemed “not valued” - you gone without so much as a goodbye.
@@martywilliard Very well said. " It's a very Transactional Relationship".
With your help Josh I decided to retire last December. I had worked for a 2 doctor eye practice for 33 years and decided I had enough stress and worry and it was time to retire. I tried to retire at the end of 2021 and the docs convince need me stay for 6 months, and then to stay until they found the right person. That turned into training the new person and staying an extra 10 months. When I finally put my foot down and put an absolute end date, they stopped talking too me, tried to deny my vacation and sick time. Lucky for me my replacement made sure I got what was due me, because she knew they would do the same to anyone, including her when it was her time to leave. I have not heard a word from my old “family” since the day I left. Nice to know life goes on. My advice is do what is right for you, because most companies are looking out for themselves at your expense. Retire as soon as possible. I retired at 53 and should have went sooner. YOLO
Unbelievable. You are extremely fortunate your replacement paid what was due. Congratulations!🎉🍾🎈
What a couple of selfish, childish losers. A lesson for the rest of us
I love the "we will pay you more" thing. It's so true. Why didn't you pay me more to begin with? I might not be leaving if you had.
This whole thing totally drives me nuts. If you ask for a raise they say no when you quit the money falls out of the sky.
Apparently if you stay, they start looking for you replacement and mistreating you. They do not want to pay that higher rate, they just want you to leave on their terms, not yours. They probably wait until you expand your lifestyle to use the higher income, so you won’t be able to make the payment on your new house when they yank the rug out from under you. Sickos. I learned about these games on Joshua Fluke’s channel.
IMO...Our generation thought companies and bosses appreciated us for the life long work we gave them. As I watch more of my friends retiring...they couldn't care less. We were fools...
True and I’ve watched this happen at my job. A close friend retired after 40 years and they told him, they we’re going to take him out for lunch, didn’t happen. Those POS can kiss my butt if they think I’m going to give them a notice.
I retired on my own terms ten years ago today! Worked for a large defense contractor and had enough of the nonsense they fished out. Gave them three months notice but was ready if they walked me out. They didn’t and surprised me by hiring a replacement in time for me to train. Two of my peers left shortly after I did. Life is good.
I served in the Army 27 years. To my “Army family” I’m deader than George Patton. I knew that going in so not broken hearted. They just better not ask me to come back and serve the current regime. Fool me once…
I retired 4 years ago at age 66 and gave the company 11 months' notice. I feel lucky I retired on my terms and had zero stress in a high stress environment during my last year at work.
I don't have a problem with someone saying I hope you find what your looking for to me. Its just about the context maybe someone says that to everyone and sometimes it doesn't apply
I had an interesting last year and half working for the State of Florida. I was in a Senior Management position after years of climbing the latter. I was basically being forced out, but the funny part I was getting ready to retire anyway which made the effort to force me out a waste of time. I was treated very poorly at the end of my career, but it really had no impact on me as I was focused on retirement. The state is now having a very difficult filing position. Things have really changed. If I was young person, I would be looking to have my own business and developed a number of revenue streams. Working for organizations is not good. This sounds so familiar and betting there are a number of people experiencing the same thang.
I work in senior management in local government in Florida. State has a reputation for low pay and being a meat grinder. Glad you made it out and we’re planning on retirement anyway.
Being young and an independent contractor is very difficult. Senior managers in State governments don't want to work with young independent professionals. If you already have your tiny house paid off with a little dividend income to cover food and housing costs, then sure, try to get on a contract. Otherwise, W2...
I learned awhile ago that everyone is replaceable in a corporation. No matter how experienced, smart, capable or skilled. I just retired at age 66 after 40 years in IT and enjoyed my job for the most part. But it was time to go and I am not looking back.
That is virtually the same treatment I received after quitting every job I ever had.
So very true Josh. Your just another number. When you leave another number just falls into place.
I was lucky the last guy I worked for, I started working for him when I was at Cat then when I was self-employed, and then as an employee for him for the last five years .
He took me out to eat and sent me on my way.🎉
Sadly, Josh that's all too common with today's upper management. My bosses didn't have the temerity to let me go gracefully. Instead, they eliminated my and a colleague position and turned around and hired replacements for us. Real "class" act.
Agree need to look out for #1 Retired in 2020 at 58yr, Gave 8 mo notice and could have given 2 wks if I wanted. 2nd level boss calls me in his office and talked to me from his position only and tried to convince me to stay and never once said congratulations, never said wish you the best, never said wish you could stay longer but I understand your life is priority #1. Selfish talk. Hope he gave the next retiree better treatment than me.
You got the last laugh when you walked.
There's a reason I've followed a couple manager types through 4 companies now. They treat people right and they appreciate you. If you have options, why would you ever want to work for someone that doesn't care about you one way or the other?
Some bosses/managers have terrible interpersonal skills. They're clueless about what effect their dismissive behavior will have on their employees.
I’m so glad I won’t have to deal with that when I retire. Everyone always says congratulations, good luck and so on. I feel for that guy on his disappointment like he never mattered. His CEO is a PO💩!
That is good advice, I recently became a supervisor and I am mediately hate it. And I have been saying to myself that I’m going to stick around to do some good things in the office and clean some stuff up with paperwork and other stuff and then I will retire. And you’re right, I don’t know the company anything. And after I decide to retire I will be easily replaced and it will be like I never existed
That is a piece of garbage boss!!!!!
That's why I'm not telling anyone when I'm going to retire. In 6 months, they won't even remember you were there.
Six months? Try six minutes.
I like to work and I like where I work. I'm two years past my FRA and still plan to stay there until I want but I let them know that if things start going terribly wrong, I'm out of there.
I had a colleague who would declare, “I’m one bad day from retirement!”
That’s a good-natured warning not to give her any guff. 😆
Great! Never retire. Did Moses retire? Does anything in nature retire? Six days work, one day rest. Sabbaticals and long vacations, even. Retire? Never.
I quit my job in January after 28 years at 52. I gave them 6 months notice. My bosses right up to the CEO wished me well and publicly thanked me for my contributions. Not all companies are ass holes.
My last was yesterday after 36 years. Finally drew the short straw in head count reduction at 60. Have a lead with a client for another job, but trying to figure out is I should just retire. Not sure what to do.
During employment in my younger years there were a group of guys bitching. The Supervisor told everyone that you are here to work, not to have a good time. "Hope you find what you are looking for" is a pretty good comment.
Aren't you being paid to work? Have a good time on your own time.
He found it. Retirement.
I was fortunate enough to work for a good privately owned company for my last 7 years. I was asked to train my replacement and of course I complied. On my last day I was given two watches by my coworkers ( I am a collector ) and the President came into the lab to present me with an appreciation plaque. I have two weeks of extra pay to take me to the end of the month as a bonus from the boss. I was paid well by this company and have absolutely no complaints. I wish I would have discovered them earlier in my career.
Another great post, Josh!! Thanks!
I loved getting a haircut from the Korean lady in the px when I was in the army because I knew the shoulder massage was coming
Retired when i was 60 years old on my birthday didn’t expect anything special.They 😮weren’t my family or best friends I already had those.was there to make a living thankful they hired me 34 years ago.Very happy and in much better health.Thank you Lord.
My stepfather received a gold Rolex from work. He never wears it because it’s so heavy. The statistics on who buys a Rolex are interesting. Mostly it’s aspirational, not the wealthy.
boss is just worried about himself and where he is gonna get that production from
Guess im strange but when the biggest airline in ATL coerced the older employees including me to go i didn't stress over it. Spent 42 plus there but i just moved on because i knew i was a number from day one.
One thing you want to do when you retire is train yourself in being a "handyman". Timelines, costs and the quality of work a lot of people you hire these days is on a very sharp decline......I've found I can do a lot of these jobs better than what shows up at the house these days. Do this and you will save a lot of money. Example...my under cabinet reverse osmosis system wasn't working. Contractor quoted me $1800 to replace. Found on TH-cam that I could just replace the water container that holds the pressure for $48.00. Took literally 5 minutes to replace.
Terrific advice!
Companies are not families and families are not companies. Like you said, there is nothing wrong with companies' priorities being profit driven and our priorities being not in the company. Our values are not in our job or work, so we just have to set our priorities right.
My boss kissed my butt until the last two weeks before I retired. Because so many people were leaving during COVID he had me doing all the most difficult work and training two new people at the same time. On the last day I came in to clean out my desk and he wouldn't even shake my hand!
I was honest and upfront with him about my retirement several years in advance! That was a huge mistake!
Bottom line. Do what's best for you. Don't have feelings for the company, because they have none for you.
Right on. I think when I’m ready, I’ll start burning my sick time and screw them over for months. Then when they think they got me, I’ll tell them to come and get your truck.
Just retired last week. I left in good term and gave enough training for my replacement. Life is too short.
Sometimes you are not a valued person. You are just a tradable commodity and therefore replaceable.
Your job will be posted before the obituary hits the paper
Totally agree! You need to take care of number one because no one at work will take care of you or your family if you get sick.
Which is why I am not even giving them notice. One day I will just not show up. Maybe I will send them a text that I am retired. Companies do not appreciate workers.
worked for big intl transport company. two of us in my dept, in the whole state, my colleague covered North, I covered South. Paid hourly, not management. Not supposed to be called on at home. I took calls at home on nights and weekends. I sometimes on weekends had to travel into North to fix issue, because my colleague never answered his work provided phone. His day ended at his scheduled time regardless. If i had issue I would stay until resolved, often times not on clock. when it came time for corp to cut it back to one support person in state, guess who got axed...
The Boss said: "Josh, stop drinking and go home, you retired a year ago". ;) lol. Seriously though, the boss could had complemented the employee for his work. I wonder if there was a back story.
From a well-off friend who retired even earlier than I did: " A $200 Japanese-made Citizen watch tells time just as accurately as a $20,000 European-made Rolex watch." You're the only one watching out for you. Due to some bad employment experiences early in my full-time work life I started investing early. When I was in my 60s and things started to get nasty at work for us older folks (we were still on the old company pension plan, and change in management direction to more bureaucracy), I was able to walk out at age 61 when they gave incentives at the height of the pandemic. Good riddance!
If you know the company may downsize due to financials it might be best to wait for a severance package. My job was outsourced overseas but I was able to get a full year's pay due to my tenure with the company during the 2008/2009 great recession. I was in my upper 50's and still needed to work. The severence gave me time to secure another job during a very difficult job market without worrying about paying the bills or withdrawing from savings.
I'm looking for "not here anymore". Found it.
The boss said…”Don’t let the door hit you in the ### on the way out”
Josh towards the end of my career I always heard these comments. "You cannot do this job forever." "Once you hang it up do not look back." Both comments both hit home with as my job was stressful and very physical. Since my retirement at the end of 2022 I am virtually stress free and I have not looked back. Each day I move forward with complete happiness. I do projects at my own pace and help local organizations as well as donate to them when I have the time available. I do it because I care about my community and the people that reside in it. Thanks for this video.
I’m semi retired, working flexible part time for travel.
This one of the reasons why the next generation is asking for more....they watched their mother and father work, work and work.
So true.
It takes two zoomers to replace one boomer.
Except they expect more for nothing.
Not all of them. It's hard to put an entire generation in a category. I work with well educated 20 somethings. @@garagehobbies
I made poor career decisions in my 20s because of my sense of obligation. I later learned the means to success. Achieved some. I can't regret those decisions because I never would have met my godly wife. She is worth much more than a career. BTW, 6 digit USAA number.
When you work for a company,,, I learn ,,,you are a name and employee number on a piece
Of paper,,,
I guess we are all more disposable than we think, LOL.
It’s a sad way to begin retirement, reading all the bad ending stories in the comments. I feel even more blessed about my retirement situation.
Absolutely agree. the big man don't care about you or your retirement. Even the Departing unit when I retired didn't give a rats ass about the 24 years of service I put into the Army when I was getting out. they didn't even get me a retirement gift. who cares anyway right? My retirement gift to myself was a 75K job a year for the last 13 yrs that I have right now that I'm 5 months away from retiring again...along with my wife at the same time. COJ gone for good.
Josh you the man! I love the Lord as well. Everything you say makes sense.
Amen Josh
Ask yourself if you are working to live, or living to work.
I have a great boss, but if he gets promoted/ wins powerball and they replace him with a bone head, I'm done. Next time you're in Maine, Josh, I'd be honored to buy dinner for you and your wife.
Sounds like the boss is jealous of him. I would imagine that people who retire early in life, and earlier than their older piers, are often a little bitter that a younger person can retire and they cannot.
I can listen to you all day. If we were neighbours we’d be great friends lol!!
You are only as good as your last envelope, Tony Soprano
and Pablo says, "Cannibal" 2:15
2:10 PABLO alert ! 🐕
Josh unfortunately that's the culture nowadays of upper level management and even owners and I'm sure you know this all too well from hearing all the stories from people.
It's really pretty sad what our culture is turned into.
It's dog eat dog that's why you've got to take care of yourself.
l understand what you are talking about. we are on the same page.
The number 1 priority is your Boss only cares about himself.
I get what you are saying but I was a small business owner. Over almost 5 years I had 4 employees:
Employee #1 - Fired because they was late 3 times and missed 1 day in their first 4-6 weeks of working for me.. (I was only 3 days a week.) Eventually I had to talk with a judge because I refused to pay them unemployment.
Employee #2 - Fired because they lied straight to my face. I had left early because I get migraine headaches and I told them to just stay and answer the phones. When I woke up at 4:30 pm I called and no one answered. I called back 4 times more until 5:00 pm and never once was the phone answered. The next day when we were at worked I asked them we then left and they said 5:00 pm. I went to the phone system and showed where I had called. Their excuse was that they were in the bathroom for 30 minutes.
Employee #3 - Fired for theft and I called in the police.
..... with this kind of work ethic from American workers, why should a company have loyalty back ? I have been an employer and an employee and the morality of this country is gone.
No offense, but you hired bad people. Did you pay enough to get good ones?
@@dforrest4503 I paid them more then I got paid so now how will you indirectly try and insult me. No matter how much you get paid, lying and stealing are never acceptable.
It's a shame you can't be happy for people who played hard and won the game.
Pablo strong
I'm 67, and have been trying to retire for a couple years now, but my boss says I can't.
Greetings to the dog
PAWblo makes a cameo Yea PAWblo ..! Yup you have to look out for yourself the Companies Do …!
After 18 yrs , gave them a two week notice ….. Companies that say “ we cant find anyone that wants to work “ = “ we cant find anyone to exploit anymore “
5 months to go... maybe earlier, if hiring the perm fill moves faster than normal.
My boss says "you've earned it" and "thank you" for taking care of some critical issues since I agreed to take care of a problem. And "I hope you find what you're looking for...".
I work in a skilled engineering business, in 2016 , I was booked for two weeks holidays, a big contract came in, my boss had let a colleague go and was overseas, he pleaded with me to not take, the holidays , after some time I passed and stayed at work, he promised me he would look after me, time passed my boss got a promotion, my colleague got a holiday, I got a hard time from my partner, never seen any bonus, and really felt stupid.
I changed company, 6 months later 💥
USAA just layed off 400+ ppl today
yeah, I mentioned in that in my other video. Hard times coming for USAA it appears