"I lack the intellect to know precisely" - a first step of a humble, honest and true to himself Scientist. Know your limitations and take it from there. A nice scene.
@@fjccommish Except no living scientist has ever said this... or anything equivalent. If they did, the rest of the scientific community would be laughing out loud.
@@jimbutler1189 "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: "Ye must have faith". " Max Planck (I'd say this is pretty close)
@@timorean320 Yea but you better have big time evidence if you want other scientists to follow you. Scientists are extremely competitive and are dying to tear apart other scientists.
@@ricomajestic Which should make one wonder. Is it ego, or truth driven. For hundreds of years, we looked to men in robes for "Truth", now we look to men in Lab Coats. I doubt they will do much better, than the guys in robes did.
Rest in peace to Sal Mineo, the actor who portrayed Dr Milo. I was reading about his life story and it was incredibly tragic and troubled. Sad that he was taken from us far too soon
The actor who played Dr. Milo, Sal Mineo found the ape makeup to be uncomfortable and even wants out of the movie. So, they have his character killed off by being mauled to death by an unevolved gorilla. In the original script, the character was supposed to be in the film a lot longer.
I wish there was a version of the earlier script available to read somewhere- I'd love to see what Milo had going on in the version that featured more of Sal Mineo's character. Far as I know only the later revised versions are easily viewed.
@Hattan AlShutaifi Killed him off way too soon way before the end of the first half of the film. Cornelius and Zira named their son after him, but in the movie after their death at the end, their son's name was changed to Caesar in the next film.
@@HamanKarn567 Dr. Hassllein wants to kill little Milo (later renamed Caesar), even when he was still in his mom, Zira's womb to prevent the Planet of the Apes, especially a sooner one from ever happening.
Sal was wonderful in this scene. I wish he had been in more of the film. (I understand the reason it was done, but I wish the circumstances had been different). Devastating that this became his final big screen appearance,
It's a real shame, that Sal Mineo did not stick around for the rest of the film. Dr. Milo would have been a great character in the film if he had continued.
@@SlickArmor Not according to the police report it wasn't, there was no evidence it was anything to do with drugs. The killer confessed that he didn't know who he even was. It's all online this story and information. 👍🙂
@@SlickArmorIn your defence, the police did investigate the possibility of his murder being drugs related, but they quickly discredited the idea due to lack of evidence and his killer served 11 years or so. 👍
One thing I always thought silly about any movie with time travel is when they have some kind of clock/calendar that moves forward or back with the time travel. It would only make sense if it was reversing time but that would mean everything reversed, as in the occupants and the materials.
I loved that they explained how the apes went back in time because they obviously needed a way to continue the franchise, but the biggest plot hole is the fact that the apes didn't possess the technology or resources to repair either Taylor's or Brent's ship or even have the intellect to operate it.
Milo was a genius ape who had consulted and talked extensively with Taylor about the ship and about the technology behind it. He found the service manual for the ship given to the astronauts on his hundreds of expeditions to the crash site and had the necessary tools to repair it. The repair was simple actually. The ship was still in good condition.
@@thegreyavenger2 How the hell did the Egyptians built the pyramids? Apes obviously built large structures. They made rifles and bullets and did experimental surgery without their patients dying.
@@ricomajestic they may have had the right tools and resources to build weaponry and operate on humans, but they still lived primitive and didn't have the logistics it would take to repair a fallen space capsule. Especially ones that were either sunken in water (Taylor's )or burnt/crashed (Brent's). But I still love the franchise regardless cause they're all classics
@@elijahvigil7467 I guess you have to use your imagination. The apes were communicating with Taylor and Brent and this might have lasted for years with each learning from the other. We are not given a timeline for how long all these characters interacted with each other. It is highly unlikely they would be able to repair it even with some assistance from the humans but not impossible. Most of them have been great films though even if some things are not explained fully.
They never explain how Dr. Milo is somehow able to reverse engineer the two wrecked spacecrafts and somehow launch it back into space right before the nuclear bomb goes off.
@@kjthekunoichi He originally was supposed to be in the rest of the movie, but the actor played him, Sal Mineo found the ape makeup uncomfortable and even wants out. So, the script have been rewritten and have the character killed off during the first couple of minutes.
Too bad Dr. Milo got killed off so early in the story; in his brief scenes, he was one of the most interesting characters in the movie (and Sal Mineo gave a superb performance, even underneath the heavy makeup.)
Someone wondered about the ship's clock clicking backwards, suggesting that it's some kind of mistake. In my opinion, the ship's computer is programmed to adjust the EARTH-TIME chronometer in relation to the SHIP-TIME chronometer based on what the spacetime-warping engine is doing -- its "Hasslein Drive" to give it a name. In the opening scene of the 1st film, we see 3 days of EARTH-TIME click by as Taylor monologues for his 'Final Report', citing "Doctor Hasslein's theory of Time in a vehicle traveling nearly the speed of light" etc. The EARTH-TIME clock clicks forward at a faster rate relative to the SHIP-TIME clock because the computer knows that relativistic Time Dilation is happening, due to the manner in which the Hasslein Drive is bending spacetime around the ship. Similarly, the ship's computer must have been calculating a NEGATIVE flow of EARTH-TIME when the Apes were in it, following the 'shockwave' that intercepted them while in orbit above the doomed Earth, all the while the SHIP-TIME clock kept on clicking by at the same rate they were experiencing inside the ship. The EARTH-TIME clock merely displays the Time that the computer calculates is going on OUTSIDE the 'warpfield' generated by the Hasslein Drive. This can only mean that Hasslein knew that under certain possible-if-improbable situations, the ship just MIGHT find itself in a zone of spacetime 'bent' in a negative direction, requiring the clock to register a negative flow of time outside the ship. And the computer's ability to gauge this backwards-through-Time phenomenon must be finely tuned, because the "date meter" (as Hasslein calls it, when chatting with Zira, whom he's gotten tipsy on 'Grape Juice Plus') -- the EARTH-TIME chronometer -- ends up reading "Nineteen Seventy Three" after having previously read "Thirty-Nine . . . Fifty . . . something" -- the President later confirming that it had read "Thirty-Nine Fifty Five -- A.D., presumably." Since the Presidential Commission is dissolved on a date "in the year of our Lord Nineteen Seventy Three," then the clock managed to ACCURATELY calculate at least the YEAR the Apes had traveled back to -- and I got a feeling that if the clock had ended up on the wrong Month-and-Day, it would've been mentioned by the NASA experts who examined this ANSA ship on the President's behalf.
You know it's odd that no one ever mentions that the baby chimp was to have been named Milo and so later on, when he grew up, they gave him a book and got him to name himself, he changed it. Maybe Zira should have spoken to the kid more before switching him with the other chimp.
Following Sal Mineo's abrupt departure, why didn't producers just find a new actor and reshoot the few scenes Mineo appeared in, rather than rewrite the whole script and have Dr. Milo killed so quickly into the film?
Budget. If I remember, this film had a very tight budget. It likely would’ve costed them extra money to pay a new actor, new makeup and reshoots. Being cheap.
Milo said the Earth would be destroyed in the future timeline. It didn't happen. In the last movie of the 70s era, Battle of the Planet of the Apes (1973) apes and humans co-exist. It was Taylor's arrival on the future Earth that changed the timeline and eventually saved the Earth, Planet of the Apes, Planet of the Humans.
To be fair, Dr. Milo's self-deprecating statement wasn't entirely accurate. He OBVIOUSLY has the intellect to understand their situation. He simply lacks the KNOWLEDGE.
These costumes were state of the art. The best that money could buy. And yet people think a couple of cowboys actually managed to come up with a far superior monkey suit, for a one minute film. The Planet of the Apes was released in 1968. The Patterson-Gimlin Film was shot in 1967.🤔
Did you notice the dials in (our) ship😂. How come if Taylor went forward in time & the apes went back in time. How come the USA never even noticed that ship was theirs. Some of the components must have had written on them,made in the USA . Surely even the space suits would had a flag or something.
@@r0bw00d Nah, that only proved that we COULD be that way and weren't so noble as Chuck Heston claimed...when his character, who lamented over the fools that blew up human civilization, literally hits the button that destroys the Earth itself, THAT proves it .
"Time dilation" is inferred by the doctor. Einstein's relativity and the Lorentz-Contraction of time travel explored here. Clocks, distance, and time differentials prove out how time is shorter for travelers while those observes on Earth aged out. Thier older than those... much older, while the travelers barely aged at all.
I hate that they created a character, not present in the first two films, just to kill him off. Plus, THREE chimpanzees are enough to pry off a solidary gorilla's hand. Sheesh.
That is just poor animal handling there. Putting Chimps next to a gorilla? What were they thinking? Have they not seen what apes do to other species of apes?
The Gorilla costume and sound effects are so dumb haha....understand why ridiculously difficult to get a real Gorilla or imitate actually Gorilla noises in the 70's....but still...😂
Too bad everything looks so fake. The story development of the first three movies was better than the recent films, though. Today’s movies rely on technology so much, now.
So you are saying you have undeniable proof that time travel is indeed impossible? Id love to read your paper on the subject, what qualified publications have you filed it under, so I can read it someday.
"I lack the intellect to know precisely" - a first step of a humble, honest and true to himself Scientist. Know your limitations and take it from there. A nice scene.
"I don't know. Therefore, I'm right." That's the motto of arrogant scientists.
@@fjccommish Except no living scientist has ever said this... or anything equivalent.
If they did, the rest of the scientific community would be laughing out loud.
@@jimbutler1189 "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: "Ye must have faith". "
Max Planck
(I'd say this is pretty close)
@@timorean320 Yea but you better have big time evidence if you want other scientists to follow you. Scientists are extremely competitive and are dying to tear apart other scientists.
@@ricomajestic Which should make one wonder. Is it ego, or truth driven. For hundreds of years, we looked to men in robes for "Truth", now we look to men in Lab Coats. I doubt they will do much better, than the guys in robes did.
Rest in peace to Sal Mineo, the actor who portrayed Dr Milo. I was reading about his life story and it was incredibly tragic and troubled. Sad that he was taken from us far too soon
The actor who played Dr. Milo, Sal Mineo found the ape makeup to be uncomfortable and even wants out of the movie. So, they have his character killed off by being mauled to death by an unevolved gorilla. In the original script, the character was supposed to be in the film a lot longer.
I wish there was a version of the earlier script available to read somewhere- I'd love to see what Milo had going on in the version that featured more of Sal Mineo's character. Far as I know only the later revised versions are easily viewed.
@@yeldarbarrow3172 same
@Hattan AlShutaifi Killed him off way too soon way before the end of the first half of the film. Cornelius and Zira named their son after him, but in the movie after their death at the end, their son's name was changed to Caesar in the next film.
Dr Hassllein probably would have tortured him to death
@@HamanKarn567 Dr. Hassllein wants to kill little Milo (later renamed Caesar), even when he was still in his mom, Zira's womb to prevent the Planet of the Apes, especially a sooner one from ever happening.
Sal was wonderful in this scene. I wish he had been in more of the film. (I understand the reason it was done, but I wish the circumstances had been different). Devastating that this became his final big screen appearance,
Ironic he was killed by an ape and in the movie as well.
he had issues with the make up causing panic attacks
Me too.
It's a real shame, that Sal Mineo did not stick around for the rest of the film. Dr. Milo would have been a great character in the film if he had continued.
Yeah, I've thought the same thing myself many times over the years.
R.I.P. Sal Mineo (1939-1976) (Milo), Roddy McDowall (1928-1998) (Cornelius) and Kim Hunter (1922-2002) (Zira).
bruh the trio were good
I'm a time traveler too. I travel from time to time.
Rest in peace Sal Mineo (Dr Milo), who was killed only four years after this movie was released, aged 37. ☹️
He died in Vietnam?
@@neilreynolds17681 actually I believe it was a back alley drug deal gone bad.
@@SlickArmor Not according to the police report it wasn't, there was no evidence it was anything to do with drugs. The killer confessed that he didn't know who he even was. It's all online this story and information. 👍🙂
@@neilreynolds5003 well then I guess I stand corrected.. That's just what I remember.
@@SlickArmorIn your defence, the police did investigate the possibility of his murder being drugs related, but they quickly discredited the idea due to lack of evidence and his killer served 11 years or so. 👍
"I'm just a humble Cave-Man Lawyer, your honor...your world, frightens and confuses me..."
"The voices in your cell phones - are they evil spirits? I don't know... but I do know this... "
The smarter you are the more you realize how much you don't know.
That is wisdom.
“For the moment, we should follow their example”
*Gets murdered by one
" I LACK THE INTELLECT...." I LOVED THAT PHRASE!!! JUST A PHRASE FOR A HIGH LEVEL SCIENTIST ;)
Neither did I - came as a huge shock to realise this was him. He hated the prosthetics apparently and found them very claustrophobic.
Bill Bixby said that too about his mid trans. he didn't even like the white contacts
Einstein told the widow of a fellow scientist at his funeral don’t be sad, your husband being a physicist knew that time doesn’t exist.
Man, I loved this character. His death early in the movie was a misstep to be sure, but I understand why it was done.
Surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one
Yes, it was!
Love the photo.
I have all the original D&D stuff.
1974... I think.
Dr.Milo was right to be cautious about humans, because he knew that they would act quickly to stop a future where apes take over.
Just a great movie. I must have watched in a 100 times. The make-up, costumes and actors were just awesome.
One thing I always thought silly about any movie with time travel is when they have some kind of clock/calendar that moves forward or back with the time travel. It would only make sense if it was reversing time but that would mean everything reversed, as in the occupants and the materials.
They look like they got the gorilla suit in the next cage from eBay!
Amazon special.
I loved that they explained how the apes went back in time because they obviously needed a way to continue the franchise, but the biggest plot hole is the fact that the apes didn't possess the technology or resources to repair either Taylor's or Brent's ship or even have the intellect to operate it.
Milo was a genius ape who had consulted and talked extensively with Taylor about the ship and about the technology behind it. He found the service manual for the ship given to the astronauts on his hundreds of expeditions to the crash site and had the necessary tools to repair it. The repair was simple actually. The ship was still in good condition.
@@ricomajestic Well how the hell did they drag the ship out of the lake?
@@thegreyavenger2 How the hell did the Egyptians built the pyramids? Apes obviously built large structures. They made rifles and bullets and did experimental surgery without their patients dying.
@@ricomajestic they may have had the right tools and resources to build weaponry and operate on humans, but they still lived primitive and didn't have the logistics it would take to repair a fallen space capsule. Especially ones that were either sunken in water (Taylor's )or burnt/crashed (Brent's). But I still love the franchise regardless cause they're all classics
@@elijahvigil7467 I guess you have to use your imagination. The apes were communicating with Taylor and Brent and this might have lasted for years with each learning from the other. We are not given a timeline for how long all these characters interacted with each other. It is highly unlikely they would be able to repair it even with some assistance from the humans but not impossible. Most of them have been great films though even if some things are not explained fully.
Ape shall not kill Ape.
It's a shame that Dr. Milo died so early on in such a tragic fashion.
omg, i NEVER realized he played this (short) role....
dragonboy718 I found out 6 years after you!! How do you think I feel????
@@davidjames666 i found out 4 years later
That gorilla suit was from the Spirit Halloween discount rack
They never explain how Dr. Milo is somehow able to reverse engineer the two wrecked spacecrafts and somehow launch it back into space right before the nuclear bomb goes off.
That explains the three new stray cats that came around recently dressed like they were from the space federation.
Its too bad Milo died.
Andmaketherain yeah it would be totally interesting to have Dr Milo for the rest of the movie!!!
Andrew Gaska wrote two books and Milo was the protagonist(well and Landon)
Cornelius and Zira originally named their son, Milo after him, but his name was changed into Caesar in the next movie.
@@kjthekunoichi He originally was supposed to be in the rest of the movie, but the actor played him, Sal Mineo found the ape makeup uncomfortable and even wants out. So, the script have been rewritten and have the character killed off during the first couple of minutes.
@@fucheduck Like how Milo found Taylor's spaceship, rebuilt it and reused it?
Ironically, Cornelius later tells Hasslein that ape never kills ape. However, that's exactly how Milo dies.
Wow, I forgot about that. I guess he didn't know Ape History that well. His father wasn't around to tell him about the Gorilla killing another ape.
And Cornelius' grandson will be killed by a gorilla too.
I like how Dr. Milo now knows the truth about what happens to earth .
Its not an action film but its a good 1970s film.
That gorilla costume is Roger Patterson's Bigfoot costume shrunk down in size and retouched for the role here.
Too bad Dr. Milo got killed off so early in the story; in his brief scenes, he was one of the most interesting characters in the movie (and Sal Mineo gave a superb performance, even underneath the heavy makeup.)
Simplemente esta saga es la mejor de todas y es de las mejores de las peliculas del cine de toda la historia
And in that moment that Cornelius and Zira understood the fact that Taylor was from Earth's Past and experienced the ordeal to their deaths
The trouble with predicting the future is you can misinterpret what you see.
The only other ape scientist to survive the future destruction of Earth was of course Dr. Bobo, who ended up with Pearl and Brain-Guy.
Don’t forget Peanut, though he just got sent back in time and shacked up with the distant descendant of a 20th Century Wisconsin astronaut.
Someone wondered about the ship's clock clicking backwards, suggesting that it's some kind of mistake. In my opinion, the ship's computer is programmed to adjust the EARTH-TIME chronometer in relation to the SHIP-TIME chronometer based on what the spacetime-warping engine is doing -- its "Hasslein Drive" to give it a name. In the opening scene of the 1st film, we see 3 days of EARTH-TIME click by as Taylor monologues for his 'Final Report', citing "Doctor Hasslein's theory of Time in a vehicle traveling nearly the speed of light" etc. The EARTH-TIME clock clicks forward at a faster rate relative to the SHIP-TIME clock because the computer knows that relativistic Time Dilation is happening, due to the manner in which the Hasslein Drive is bending spacetime around the ship.
Similarly, the ship's computer must have been calculating a NEGATIVE flow of EARTH-TIME when the Apes were in it, following the 'shockwave' that intercepted them while in orbit above the doomed Earth, all the while the SHIP-TIME clock kept on clicking by at the same rate they were experiencing inside the ship. The EARTH-TIME clock merely displays the Time that the computer calculates is going on OUTSIDE the 'warpfield' generated by the Hasslein Drive.
This can only mean that Hasslein knew that under certain possible-if-improbable situations, the ship just MIGHT find itself in a zone of spacetime 'bent' in a negative direction, requiring the clock to register a negative flow of time outside the ship. And the computer's ability to gauge this backwards-through-Time phenomenon must be finely tuned, because the "date meter" (as Hasslein calls it, when chatting with Zira, whom he's gotten tipsy on 'Grape Juice Plus') -- the EARTH-TIME chronometer -- ends up reading "Nineteen Seventy Three" after having previously read "Thirty-Nine . . . Fifty . . . something" -- the President later confirming that it had read "Thirty-Nine Fifty Five -- A.D., presumably." Since the Presidential Commission is dissolved on a date "in the year of our Lord Nineteen Seventy Three," then the clock managed to ACCURATELY calculate at least the YEAR the Apes had traveled back to -- and I got a feeling that if the clock had ended up on the wrong Month-and-Day, it would've been mentioned by the NASA experts who examined this ANSA ship on the President's behalf.
Apparently they went back in time to restart the process of earth's destruction, got it!
You know it's odd that no one ever mentions that the baby chimp was to have been named Milo and so later on, when he grew up, they gave him a book and got him to name himself, he changed it. Maybe Zira should have spoken to the kid more before switching him with the other chimp.
Following Sal Mineo's abrupt departure, why didn't producers just find a new actor and reshoot the few scenes Mineo appeared in, rather than rewrite the whole script and have Dr. Milo killed so quickly into the film?
Budget.
If I remember, this film had a very tight budget. It likely would’ve costed them extra money to pay a new actor, new makeup and reshoots. Being cheap.
I will name one of my kids Milo!
This is amazing
And the Gorilla in this scene went on to star in a Cadbury’s advert.
Sal Mineo. Gone way too soon.
Milo said the Earth would be destroyed in the future timeline. It didn't happen. In the last movie of the 70s era, Battle of the Planet of the Apes (1973) apes and humans co-exist. It was Taylor's arrival on the future Earth that changed the timeline and eventually saved the Earth, Planet of the Apes, Planet of the Humans.
Dr. Milo and Dr. Hasslein could have had a solid intellectual discussion on the nature of time travel-too bad it didn’t happen in the film.
Very well explained.... for a Talking Monkey.
R.I.P- GEORGEBUSH.
I've watched this movie last year it was pretty good on til when I got to the ending
To be fair, Dr. Milo's self-deprecating statement wasn't entirely accurate. He OBVIOUSLY has the intellect to understand their situation. He simply lacks the KNOWLEDGE.
Yeah that makes sense
These costumes were state of the art. The best that money could buy. And yet people think a couple of cowboys actually managed to come up with a far superior monkey suit, for a one minute film. The Planet of the Apes was released in 1968. The Patterson-Gimlin Film was shot in 1967.🤔
That was a wrong idea.
Did you notice the dials in (our) ship😂. How come if Taylor went forward in time & the apes went back in time. How come the USA never even noticed that ship was theirs. Some of the components must have had written on them,made in the USA . Surely even the space suits would had a flag or something.
I always hated how the sequel proved Dr Zeus right about man...
Right, because the first movie hadn't already done that.
@@r0bw00d Nah, that only proved that we COULD be that way and weren't so noble as Chuck Heston claimed...when his character, who lamented over the fools that blew up human civilization, literally hits the button that destroys the Earth itself, THAT proves it .
Dr. Zaius was only partly right about man because the ape's entire culture was based off of what human from Taylor's time had accomplished.
I thought Roddy McDowell wasn't in this one...
that was beneath.
Milo should've been in the film longer and its sad he wasn't, Sal Mineo must have HATED being in that ape suit.
"Time dilation" is inferred by the doctor. Einstein's relativity and the Lorentz-Contraction of time travel explored here. Clocks, distance, and time differentials prove out how time is shorter for travelers while those observes on Earth aged out. Thier older than those... much older, while the travelers barely aged at all.
No way!! A BACKWARD DISTURBANCE IN TIME! FARK!
*Dr Milo admits he can't explain time travel
Yeah the title was false advertising.
Do you see how fake that gorrilla suit looked? And that was 5 years AFTER the Patterson film.
'They're....'
Queria muito assistir completo.
I wish some of our local elected leaders would do the same...
You mean you want us to throw crap at eachother?
We already do. Did you see the last presidential debates?
Wish that character wasn't killed off so fast.
i wouldn't exactly call that "explaining" anything...
Maybe them damn apes can explain transgender someday ?
I hate that they created a character, not present in the first two films, just to kill him off.
Plus, THREE chimpanzees are enough to pry off a solidary gorilla's hand. Sheesh.
dam furries are everywhere these days
That is just poor animal handling there. Putting Chimps next to a gorilla? What were they thinking? Have they not seen what apes do to other species of apes?
Those aren't real monkeys. Rip-off.
oh man not cool man
The Gorilla costume and sound effects are so dumb haha....understand why ridiculously difficult to get a real Gorilla or imitate actually Gorilla noises in the 70's....but still...😂
Too bad everything looks so fake. The story development of the first three movies was better than the recent films, though. Today’s movies rely on technology so much, now.
The imperfection only increases the brilliance & intensity of the story.
The limitations of practical makeup and effects of the time could have had a hand in the enhancement of the creativity of the overall story
Because of the time and resources
Great scene. But the gorilla costume looks cheap and shoddy.
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Jesus Christ loves you
Donald Trump is able to talk, so what give ?
Not a very large vocabulary. Says the same words over and over again.
Loved the Ape movies, but time travel is impossible, might as well believe crap is a sentient life form 🤪
So you are saying you have undeniable proof that time travel is indeed impossible? Id love to read your paper on the subject, what qualified publications have you filed it under, so I can read it someday.
Apparently, the movie turned into an episode of Three’s Company at the end of the clip.
@@Shiirow I'll give you proof: time doesn't exist; we made it up like every other unit of measurement. Therefore, travelling back is impossible.
Theoretically it is. We just don't have the tech.