Jeff Porcaro Interview 1986 | Throwback Thursday from the MI Vault | Musicians Institute
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- Jeff Porcaro, one of the most recorded drummers of all time, was known as a member of Toto as well as for sessions with Michael Jackson, Steely Dan & many more. In this exclusive clip from Musicians Institute, Jeff discusses auditions, recording gigs, electric vs. acoustic drums, negotiating pay for sessions & more. Recorded in 1986. Only at MI!
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Gospel .... I miss my music brother Jeff Porcaro but he lives on in my heart forever ....
REST IN PEACE JEFF PORCARO
You're right Mr. East this is pure gold. You and he made some great music together and it's all over my ipod! Jeff's work has been a huge influence on me. What an experience it must have been for you to record with him. I miss the Groove Master.
I love Sandi Patti's album from 1990 "Another time, Another place" that both of you played in. Marvelous album!!
Jeff never die
Jeff PORCARO (THE MASTER OF THE DRUMS
THE MASTER OF THE GROOVE FOR ALWAYS) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RESPECT FOR JEFF PORCARO (GENIUS FABULOUS DRUMMER FOR ALWAYS) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REST IN PEACE JEFF PORCARO
I love watching this. It not only makes me smile and warms my heart, but it makes me chuckle. On the day Jeff was scheduled to do this he was really nervous and sorry he had agreed to do it. He was happy to answer people's questions about his playing, but he absolutely hated talking about himself. He wanted me to go with him, but we had a 2-year old and a newborn at home. Anyway, in this great video his incredible, warm, entertaining, and just plain cool personality comes through...as does his nervousness, which is apparent by his classic fidgeting. I am blessed to still see those fidgeting mannerisms, because Nico inherited them. By the way, when Jeff got home he told me all about the class. He had a wonderful time and was glad to do it for his Dad. He is desperately missed and always in our hearts...
A drummers' drummer and a beautifully honest man. 🙂 x
The video up from 88 with him and Mike 1/2 the comments talk about him needing to burp...That lesson been restored and pretty clear with good sound.
+Susan Porcaro Goings Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful personal insight. Jeff is my greatest teacher and inspiration, he's the reason I became a drummer. I think his down to earth and humble personality comes through in his playing. There is such a warmth to his tracks and thats what spoke to me as a kid listening to him in the 70's with Steely Dan, Boz Scaggs and of course Toto. No-one had his groove, feel and warmth and as you said he seemed like such a cool dude! He is still my all-time favorite drummer, no-one compares, the man made the drums sing. I wish you and your family the best, thanks again!
+Susan Porcaro Goings What joy to see this. How articulate and expressive! He made such a mark on modern drumming! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Peace
It was really wonderful that you shared your story behind this very cool interview. I am so sorry for your great loss!! I send you my warmest greetings!!
Becker and Fagan would audition 14 of the best session guitarists in the world to record one part of one track on an album. Then they hear Jeff playing songs he never heard before with a couple guys he never played with in a club one night and immediately ask him to be the drummer for their whole tour. That’s a whole new level of greatness.
Jeff didn’t die; God just needed drum lessons. We love you Jeff.
😂 Good one.
😔
He is one of a kind. Hope he is in Heaven grooving there :)
Nice to say.
I was a student at MI, and attended this session. I was a big Toto and Porcaro fan, and remember seeing him leaning against the wall outside smoking a cigarette before presenting thinking "Wow. That's him. He really is human." I'll never forget it.
I so envy you. I would have loved to watch him play.
I was a student there in 83'/84' and Toto came and played during the lunch hour. Of course there was no advanced notice or people would have been busting the doors down to get in to see them.
It was an awesome experience!
Attended his awesome workshop at Schmidt Music here in Minneapolis back in the day --- that was sooo cool, I can remember the history-making buzz! What a sweet bad boy! Proudly humble, straightly hip, precisely funky, popularly scientific... the list could go on and on... I
FFS
Human in part but mostly alien, he is way to talented to be fully human
No one's dead until no one longer remember them.
Jeff will live forever.
Inshallah that he always will live longer
I have been accepted at MI in 2022. This video is the reason why I applied… He changed my life… Jeff.
That is so wonderful. I wish you much success in your musical life.
@@liamsandal6360 Thank you so much. I have been at MI for over a year now I am about to graduate. MI change my playing for sure… And Jeff is still alive in school. Everybody talks about Jeff.
No ego or pretension, just a dude who took advantage of an opportunity, and rolled with it. A true legend.
My Uncle was a producer for A&M RECORDS HOLLYWOOD for 35 years.
I had the pleasure to sit in and watch some sessions at A&M with JEFF Porcaro! AMAZING musician,drummer,human being.My condolences to his wife and sons, brothers Steve & Mike , parents , and his bandmates TOTO.
I wonder how many of us drummers come back to this video over and over again from time to time, just to get our tank of Jeff refilled. Because once you’ve had a taste of this wonderful man and his work, you’re always going to need more.
❤️🥰😍🤘😃🤘
Jeff was unquestionably one of the finest drummers to have ever picked up a pair of sticks
His smile is so full of life..one of his idols..Jim Gordon had the same bright smile
It's incredible how relevant this clinic still is in 2019.
Or in 2021 or 2022..
Drums don't change in the essence of time. Yes people play faster, but when it comes to good feeling music, his words will never be irrelevant
If drummers like Jeff we’re still alive, the music business would be a lot different right now
We have become an endangered species.
So true
There are still some outstanding drummers out there
I agree. He is greatly missed.
@@canturgan Such as Meg White if you ask Drumeo. 🍿
You know someone has a great sense of humour when his jokes sound so fresh 40 years later. What a legend Jeff is.
One of my favorite memories is meeting him while he was on tour with Sonny and Cher. Jeff took time out to talk to me and offered me a beer. Really nice guy.
He started playing with them when he was 17 and left when he was 19. Amazing talent!
@@seurynck loved his spirit and what he gave to world in his music
Great story🍺 there is a best of album sonny cher '72 with half live recording. It's possible there Porcaro playing on those. I remember its a loud drummer on that. Mama was a rock n roll singer🚬
My wife and I watched the debut of TV's "The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour" in August 1971, and noticed that their drummer looked young enough to be a member of The Partridge Family. We became fans of the show and bought tickets to a Sonny & Cher concert on March 19, 1972 in Fort Wayne, Indiana, where the duo introduced their 17 year-old drummer Jeff Porcaro to a packed Memorial Coliseum audience. Fast-forward 2 years and we're attending our first Steely Dan concert at the U. of Toledo on April 21, 1974, where we're surprised as hell to recognize Jeff as a second drummer alongside Jim Hodder. I still remember them playing the rest of the band off the stage following the final encore. I've yet to hear from another Jeff Porcaro fan who saw him in concert with both Sonny & Cher and Steely Dan.
you are a true mr Jeff p fan. regards
@@alphonsoeffendy4184 Just dumb luck those first two times we saw Jeff in the early '70s. He was so good on Steely Dan's "Pretzel Logic" album tour that Becker & Fagen made him the featured drummer on their next album, 1975's "Katy Lied," and that got him the gig as studio and touring drummer on Boz Scaggs' Grammy-winning album, "Silk Degrees" (and all of this before he turned 22). The last time my wife and I saw Jeff in concert he was with his brothers Mike and Steve, when Toto played Salem, Oregon in 1985.
Awwww, Jeff... You left us too soon, my brother. We can only imagine the beats you would've given us in the ensuing years. Much love and respect.
Jeff was so amazing. Deeply humble and really articulate. What a tragedy he isn't here. He played my favorite groove of all time, Boz Scaggs' Lowdown.
Oh, damn! He did that?? Bro, I always loved the drumming on that song. Wow.
Saw the 76 Silk Degrees tour , unbelievable ! It was July 25 which was my 20th birthday! Boz Scaggs opened for the Eagles & Fleetwood Mac if you can believe it !
lowdown, lido shuffle, jojo. jeff plays on all the classics
Jeff was the most real and coolest guy I have ever met.
This is the coolest down to earth STAR I've ever seen. I don't think he even realized how great he was!
Originally from the East Coast.....less fluff
Too difficult to repeat This type of guy , Serious
@Gerry Berry So glad Holdsworth has been mentioned.
He always hated talking about himself. He always wanted talk about somebody else, like his peers or his influences. He was one of the greatests.
@@tonybrophy9615 Typical bigot.
This guy was truly amazing. One of the best to ever sit behind a drum kit.
What an extraordinary human being. Not just a great drummer. His timing and feel are beautiful. But what a cool guy.
I appreciate his honesty. The Swiss watch of drummers.
when he started talking about being nervous...made me feel so much better! i can be so damn nervous before a session or a gig! what an awesome humble guy, Jeff Porcaro!
There are only two drummers I admire Jeff Porcaro and Steve Gadd (Of course there are others, but these two are at the top of my list) excellent musicians and human beings.
Steve Gadd is amazing!
for me its Jeff and JR love there vibes and overall attitude
This is fantastic. I've known about Porcaro, studied some of his music - but I'd never heard/seen him do a clinic. I had no idea he was this humble, common-sense and even a little self-conscious. He sounds like the kind of guy I would want to buy a beer and hang around with, even if he'd never played an instrument.
Great drumming wisdom. I can relate to so much of this...
this man was the GROOVE.
groove is the man ; man is the groove !! ~! very informative and he shows such earthiness and genuine love for his music ! I definitley feel inspired stay inspired !!
Jeff was and will always be THEEEE groove master. That's my philosophy to drumming...keeping the groove alive !
Exactly.
What a great dude. Confident yet self effacing and self aware. So giving and open. This is a great video. R.I.P. Jeff.
Jeff Porcaro is my Jim Gordon. I still think of you everyday sir. You are my tower of inspiration.
And he’s quite right about the Pretzel Logic album. Jim Gordon plays most of the beats Porcaro possesses in his repertoire.
Gone 30 years ago today….blows my mind. I was in awe of his playing but then met him at the 88 NAMM Show. He was just the nicest coolest person. He was performing at the Paiste booth and me and my buddy were jammed in right next to his hi hat sitting on the floor. A Paiste rep came over and told us we would have to move, which meant leaving because the place was packed….we started to get up and Jeff said “it’s ok they can stay won’t bother me” he performed with bass and keys. ( Mike Porcaro and David Garfield I think). Great experience
I fell in love with Jeff 30 years ago and he will always be my favourite drummer. I felt as if I'd known him forever, this is how powerful the effect of his music was on me. It was as if a lightning bolt of his genius had struck me with all its force. I'd conveyed these sentiments to his sponsors Pearl and Paiste back in the day hoping they'd be kind enough to send me out the 2 famous posters he was photographed for and they were happy to do so. I remember receiving them and feeling ecstatic. Miss you Jeff!
I attended PIT in 1987 when Joe was teaching and remember Jeff coming in and just showing up and casually doing clinics. Was the greatest experience!
Many Porcaro’s Pearls of Wisdom!
Seemed like a great guy
The world misses both Jeff and Mike...True legends!
prattpt6 Steve Porcaro- do you think he’s a legend too?
I love how candid he is about some drumming shortcomings that he was working on. So down to earth and one of my favorites by far. "It's all about feel"
Watching this in March of 2020 and even 34 years later from when this recorded, Jeff's experience and wisdom continue to be matchless. Sure the technology has changed but his grounding principals still ring true all these years later. A master in all senses of the word--built on hard work perfecting his craft.
Very aware of who and what he was-- and wasn't-- and unafraid to just be himself, limitations and all. A singular talent.
Jeff’s drumming will continue to dazzle generations to come! I was hooked when I heard the Roseanna Shuffle. I sit for hours as a 15 year old no internet nada trying to figure out the shuffle. Jeff the master of the pocket seemed so humble for the talent he possessed. Thank you for sharing
there's a video here where he discusses that song, i've watched it many times and i'm not even a drummer!
That's the Purdie Shuffle. Bernard Purdie, played for Steely Dan too, another great studio musician.
I really miss this guys playing.
"Being nervous is a good thing, you know, the adrenaline, you can channel it. So, stay nervous *laughs*
Just adorable
Oh yes that will always hilarious
“I’m a time keeper” .... best thing i’ve ever heard a drummer say. Without groove, time, pocket, you’ve got nothing. Knowing your role in an ensemble, group, band is vitally important. Love it.
Like Charlie Watts als
you need to be a time keeper yes, but if you play with other musicians that don't have good time there's not much you can do to save the ensuing trainwreck. Other musicians need to practice good time also.
@@t3hgir so true, I have had that mantra for 50 years now and it still resonates . . . . .
@@t3hgir groove gets you the gig. Even if the band crumbles around you if your time is good, you’ll never look bad.
@@TacoCrisma true a great drummer with Power, feel, touch and dynamics , just laying down a killer groove will elevate an entire band. Jeff had it all, power, Swagg, feel, groove and never drowned the music 🔥
even though I am a guitarist, I would recommend to every musician that plays every kind of instrument to just pay attention to whatever a good drummer such as the great Jeff Porcaro says, it can make you 20% better player at once!
so humble and honest. Jeff is not just a great drummer, but also a good person.
The man has all the groove and is as accurate as a click. Total genius level of talent.
If I could hang out with anyone in this world or any, past\present\future...it would surely would be Jeff...
Blew my mind to see this. What a treasure!
Such a sweet, talented guy.
As a drummer, it really blew me away when he said he'd never played drum solos. Makes sense in the context of him being a consummate session player, as they have to serve the song rather than individual expression.
I too despise electronic drums. :)
He was such a cool cat, you can tell he loved playing drums, when he got into a groove their was no stopping him, such a great drummer and studio musician. R.I.P Jeff.
This is an example of what a drum clinic should be. He's a legend.
THE TOTAL PACKAGE & CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL! BEST OF THE BEST!
Ironically I can tell Jeffs playing on nearly every record I have heard of his. He is my all time favorite drummer and I am a guitar player LOL
One of my favorite drummers. RIP Jeff †
The moment I heard Jeff with his single-handed 16th note hi-hat work on Georgy Porgy, I told myself I was going to play like that. I want that feel and that attitude in my playing. I'm very into Stewart Copeland too, so my whole little drumming career was to blend Jeff's and Stewart's feels and spice it up with the other stuff from Latin, to Arabic, to Indian, to Jamaican, to African.
Dogdrum so cool although talk about different type players lol. Jeff would play in the back end of the beat like a beast and Copeland was totally on top of the beat. So I totally get what you are saying. It’s odd but I think that’s a great blend! Would love to hear you play
Oh yeah bro, Jeffrey and Stewart? Preaching to the choir good man.
''It's not fun to play with something stiff'' - Jeff Pocaro.
Chops up the butt but they feel HORRIBLE !! All giggling and innuendo aside that was a great line and I do agree !! great to have found this !!
Lol
I just got what you meant! LOL
Well, it all depends ...
Well…HE doesn’t have to…
My lifelong goal is to be as clean and tasteful Jeff was. The question I ask myself in every studio session is "How would Jeff play this?" Toto is still amazing to this day.
Man you can sure hear the talent when he touches those drums. Totally unique attack and fluidity. He will be missed, RIP Jeff.
Love how he freely admits to his own faults. Good to know he hated shuffles too😂
Happy to say I was in the audience for this one. Jeff also subbed a private lessons for his dad. It was a treat.
He was just a born Prodigy, Bottom Line. No School/Teacher can teach you how to play or approach drums like he did. amazing. Tons & Tons of feel.
They can teach you it but you might not get it.
"born with it" and "natural" can only get you so far. You have to practice it, you have to play and learn, and having an instructor or schooling can be very important.
Jim Gordon, maybe the top feel and groove drummer ever, had loads of natural talent *more than Jeff Porcaro??) and was a schooled percussionist and drummer, but he also spent his entire childhood PLAYING and developing. No substituting that, even Buddy Rich.
The social drumming comment is so true.
This is pure Gold
This is just fucking awesome.
+Susan Porcaro Goings : thank you so much for sharing this with us.
My goodness! A down to earth man of integrity.
OMFG!!! This is gold ... even in this day and age!
So glad Jeff said such kind and true words about Jim Gordon. He definitely was a beast on the drums. Absolutely no one was better.
When most music fans think of the greatest, they instinctively bring up Rich, Bonham, Moon, Baker, and Peart. But Porcaro and Gordon are overlooked, mostly because they were not "power" drummers. My personal favorite is Neil Peart (RIP). Jeff would be cooler to hang out with. Both men died too soon.
Rare to hear a musical genius talk with such honesty and intelligence about life, people and with such humility. Sadly missed, but his special feel for music will live on forever.
after 30+years of drumming I'm still not fit to wash his dirty socks.... what a master!..I hope wherever the afterlife leads us, Jeff is the drummer! RIP!
Besides a great drummer, Jeff could´ve been a stand up comedian. Guy is funny and agreeable as fuck.
In my experience I have never seen anyone with so much honesty as Jeff, he was truly down to earth person. R.I.P
The "pocket" master!!!....what a sweetheart of a guy...amazing drummer and an even better human being....R.I.P. Jeff Porcaro.
I think of Jeff every single day.
If drums weren't in the cards, he could've done radio. He had such a honest buoyancy to his voice. RIP
i wanted this to never end..
i loved jeffs playing from the first time i listened to him and was fixated by his playing all through my life ..from 12 to 40..i still love jeffs groove and attitude..what a hero..thanks for posting this.
I really wish Jeff was still alive today and continued his grooving...Toto IV was one of my fave albums when I bought the record. As a drummer myself, I truly admired his style and approach to great musicality.
I needed this in 2020 and especially this week. Rest in Peace Jeff and thank you for just bringing this job. Thanks to Musician's institute for posting this.
The best drummer in my eyes EVER !!!!
What a tragic loss....... He was so rarrin to go at the end of this video, what great energy!
The Porcaro family are truly a blessing to us. I am so thankful for the opportunity to study at MI, back in the early days, with Jeff's dad, Joe, and Ralph Humphrey. From Denver, these were true gods! And the folks we met, the fellow classmates, it was a dream come true, for me. I carry those lessons with me every day. The day Joe brought in Mr. Bernard Purdy: "those funky little notes..."
Ralph Humphrey was my favorite Zappa drummer. 50/50 and the Roxy L.P. What an eye opener it was when 1st heard him.
I watched Purdie from 6 feet away, learned more from watching his hands and his advice in an hour than years of drum lessons. :)
Such humility, holy shit!! Jeff Porcaro Lives On!!
+henry diaz Well said.
Humility isn't the first word that comes to my mind. Super intense is one though.
Clapton, that guy that Nathan plays with, now that guy oozes "humility."
...and a genius, Jeff is.
Humility is a tough one, though. I suppose it comes down to perception and opinion. He def has some.........
He would have made an awesome teacher!! Such a cool cat! ;)
Cynthia Sanchez his dad is better than him and teaches drums to this day. Look up Joe Porcaro
+netrioter I wouldn't know about better...they're distinct drummers with distinct personalities and styles, so it's like comparing apples to oranges
Cynthia Sanchez he was a an awesome teacher maybe the greatest drum teacher ever lol
Cynthia Sanchez -- MEEEEOWWW!!
Love how he turns on about the engineering dynamics question is asked
Honesty Jeff! Pure gold. He saw what Bozio and Vinny had to read, and did not want to waste Zappa’s time. Gold Gold Gold!!! Miss u Jeff!!!
This guy is the Best! Super classy...
The most brilliant bit of wisdom Jeff imparts here may be his reference to musically "anti-social" drumming, a fancy way of saying that a drummer's style is inappropriate for the music, which typically occurs because of overplaying or playing in a way that is ill-suited for the context.
Porcaro always had that knack for playing great parts that only enhanced the music. His father and musical background is one reason, also because he followed Gordon, who was the absolute master of it.
Well said.
@@jemsar2 Thank you!
I knew Jeff in Toto and watching this for the first time he was awesome. man he was a perfectionist.
I would love to hear his take on modern music and what has happened to live recorded rhythm sections. I still believe that you cannot imitate the feel, no matter how good the machines get.
Man, this is so great. What a gem of clip. This video shows what a great drummer Jeff was, but it also shows what an incredibly great guy he was. Bittersweet. This amazing reminder of how incredible Jeff was also serves to underscore how much it sucks that he's gone. Hard not to think about how much more music he should have made. We were all robbed, but none more than his family.
I honestly can't think of anyone, musician-wise, that I wish was still with us as much as I wish that Jeff Porcaro was. Life's not fair.
I love the way he credits Buddy Rich even though he's a complete original. That's respect!
I went to P I T in 1988 89 I was 17 yrs old.. Jeff is one of my biggest iinsporations still to this day , and His dad taught me how too swing, how cool too see him talk like this , crazy how different things are today, What a Humble guy he was I think we need some of this today.. And very cool too see a comment from Susan Porcaro Goings about this day ....R I P Jeff...
I was G.I.T. 89/90!
I watched Rick Beato's interview with Steve Lukather and the way Steve talks about Jeff you KNOW that he's one of the all time greats. Guys like this don't come around often, enjoy them while you can
I love him so very much! Never met him...but I remember listening to "These chains" on and on when I was a young kid, sitting behind my drumset, trying to get this groove going. His sound & feel on that tune is absolutely breathtaking!
He´s the CAT!!!
Ou man, there´s some big words of wisdom! Jeff is perhaps the greatest drummer of all time. He is funny and humble and he must have been a great guy to hangout with. I truly miss his playing. And now hear him talking, the tracks he played on are even more great!
Susan thank you for sharing those insights with us. I never had the pleasure to meet Jeff but I met the band a few years ago and I sure wish I could have met Jeff. I love this video. I saved it on my list and I love watching every so often because Jeff comes across as a down to earth, caring and sincere person. Something we lack in today’s world!!!!
Jeff Porcaro : a human drum machine with a metronome in his head. Every drummer should listen to this master.
such a great master of his forte and all while being a gentleman and down to earth. a truly missed cool cat.
I love this guy! I think about him often, as I am a drummer too. His groove and feel is like no other. He lives on in our memories and through his wonderful music. His playing was very human and his personality came across clearly through his music. Jeff`s insights still inform us drummers today and he is still teaching us valuable lessons.
It's just outstanding to see how humble he is, since he has the best feel of all drummers!
This is the best thing on Jeff in youtube
Jeff Porcaro a total legend, an inspiration for anyone wanting to play drums. R.I.P. He left behind a huge musical legacy. So many great songs he played on especially through the 80s.
Jeff sounds like Luke when he talks. The sound & rhythm of his speaking voice matches Luke if you close your eyes. True brothers from another mother.
We miss you Jeff
I noticed that too. My wife thought I was listening to Luke. They were truly brothers.
I never noticed that. You're right! Wow!