As a Cavs fan, this is my first time watching your show and I liked the conversation. I’m not saying the Suns are a contending team, or even good, but you all really shouldn’t take this loss personally. It isn’t really about the Suns having a bad game, lineup deficiencies, or Bradley Beal locker room disasters. This loss was more about how the Cavs are playing this season. They have been blowing out team’s backsides by a wide margin all season long. And crushing fan’s hopes and dreams all season long.
KD and Book aren't interested in winning a championship they just want to hoop. They have the mentality "If it happens cool, if not cool". They're just whatever about losing
No he has I'm not talking about his play lol but hes not getting pissed at taking Ls. Hes not getting pissed off when they fuck up on the court. He's not taking control of this team even though hes the best player. Instead hes just joking and laughing with everybody laughing with book on the bench. These guys aint serious in winning@@superm1ification
Suns will be forced to trade KD given Beal is untradable. Even if Beal were to waive his no trade clause ENTIRELY, no team would want him at that price. If no improvement occurs by the deadline, it would be wise to pivot from KD despite him being our best player
I’m going to keep saying it until I’m blue in the face. This team is LIGHT YEARS away from being true contenders. Durant is old and Booker is overrated. Blow this team up while teams still want Durant and Booker. There’s a real chance that we hold on to Booker for too long and he’ll turn into Brad Beal 2.0; no team is gonna give up assets for him. BLOW UP THIS TEAM!!
Oh my god, 😂😂😂😂😂. What is wrong with fans? Seriously? This isn’t their year, it wasn’t Cav’s year last year, yet look where they are this year. Durant is having his best yr since GSW. Book leaving Phoenix 🙄just stop
@ a better comparison is the Utah jazz when they had Donavan Mitchell. That jazz team knew when to sell high on Mitchell. We should have taken notes and traded Booker a long time ago.
If Bud surrounded Book, KD & Beal with players who have size, defense & rebound off the bench eg: O'Neil, Oso, Bol, Plumb or Nurk & cut Grayson minutes (He can't defend) they'll be fine.
These guys should be blowing it up! They are all professional ball players, each with their own set of skills and talent. Where is the organization and where is the intensity? There is zero, YES ZERO intensity YES INTENSITY! Coach Bud just rolls the ball out and hope they can figure it out on their own. Well they should be able to figure it out but there is ZERO INTENSITY to go along with what seems like disorganized and almost disoriented. Budenholzer and his staff are not building or bringing intensity. There is no drive. And starting to look like zero accountability. "We gotta get better" Seriously? Each post game we hear how "we gotta be better." I hate to say this about one of my all time favorite basketball players. The Seattle SuperSonics are now once again my favorite team in the N.B.A. and they are not even in existence. Yet. Thanks for letting me ramble.
Bud is a terrible coach with no offensive scheme. He's low energy and doesn't have a clue. If we had dantoni none of this shit would be going on. Mike Brown would be a much better coach
@1:02:11 You can put Ant over Booker this season for sure, but Steven if it's "what have you done for me lately" don't just brush aside how he played and what everyone thought of Book coming off the Olympics.
Olympics doesn’t mean anything. Books only had one decent playoff run. The finals run everyone crowned him. Now someone else does it. Oh that don’t matter lol You can’t move the goal post
Can Book be a PART of a Championship team? Yeah. Can he be the leader of that team? NOPE. And despite Durant being a better player than him, it's not his team either because he's not the kind of vocal leader that's needed. This is why we only came close with a general like CP3. This version of the Suns cannot win.
@@BeMoreFunny I honestly don’t know if Booker can be part of a championship team. He’s folds when it matters most. I’ve Been calling Booker overrated ever since the 2022 choke job against the mavs. Booker isn’t a winning player imp
Ishbia would be really wise to part with Josh Bartelstein. I totally thought he was from the Sarver years but no there’s a connection between the mediocrity and his tenure as CEO.
Real Cavs fan for over 45 years.. Expected a better contest from Suns. Booker looked for calls and seemed like a January in CLE vibe killed his game. Durant was still deadly when he wanted, but appeared disinterested trying to carry the team on a cold day January in CLE. You see my theme. But, if this is consistent, y’all are trouble.
Having a plan is all well and nice, but when it comes down to it, I (KD) just need to cook...he said this and some GM thought, this is a winning player... :D so funny
What worries me is Bud really isn’t pulling the right levers right now. Pick n roll with anybody & Nick Richards is such a good fallback. Maybe Richards is too new still but isn’t that bball 101?
It's not doom and Gloom just yet. We are only 2 games behind the 6th place Lakers. Mavs lost to the Hornets as well. Yeah I'm optimistic. Not giving up just yet. I know Beal just came back from Injury but he's been terrible even off the bench. If we could get rid of him and Nurk we'd have better options.
Exactly exactly exactly. I've been saying this for months now but this channel is in cahoots with the owner who doesn't want to lose 55 million on the second coach. But whether he loses money or not the problem is still right there. Budenholzer sucks as a coach. Why is everyone saying blow things up when their problem is right there. This coach sucks. He has no offense.
The fix is easy trade Beal for portis and Middleton If he says no trad booker and Durant for picks and players and let Beal be part of the rebuild. If after Beal trade doesn’t work you still trade Booker and Durant and get back as many picks and players as possible
Who ever is calling the shots in the front office need to be fired they should have never fired Monty traded cp3 or ayton when Durant first came to Phoenix they was competing at a high level in the second round of the playoffs now they barely making the play in
maybe the problem's simple, they never get more possesions than the other team, tyus needs to go to the bench (i know he was promised the starting spot but who gives a f), grayson should take his place. they need a new good wing, and book just can't be point guard ever, he's a shooting guard. yes, i believe KD (the guy with the most TOs) should be the primary guy to start the offense given the roster situation idgaf about his turnovers
As a cavs fan, it’s great to hear that a team with KD and Book feels like they’re light years away from this Cavs squad. We’ve come a lot way since LBJ
Suns softy team they can score softy def haha championship teams still required top 5 def at least building team softy booker all he can do score cant even make avg def to save his life.
As a Cavs fan, this is my first time watching your show and I liked the conversation. I’m not saying the Suns are a contending team, or even good, but you all really shouldn’t take this loss personally. It isn’t really about the Suns having a bad game, lineup deficiencies, or Bradley Beal locker room disasters. This loss was more about how the Cavs are playing this season. They have been blowing out team’s backsides by a wide margin all season long. And crushing fan’s hopes and dreams all season long.
Nick Richards with a great Drew Eubanks impersonation tonight
Lol. Give the guy some grace! He just got here!
Lindsay was so much better
She made the show more dynamic now it’s just boring and since she left Espo has been miserable especially with the suns losing games
whole team should have canceled the show and left, stick it to the man, smh didnt stand up for Lindsey
Man I been sayin its whole team fault not single players. We got great players. But its something else... Like them playing together or something
That's exactly what it is. They're not a team. Just a collection of single players.
The only consistent about Booker is his lack of defense and his inconsistency on the offensive end. It will be crime is Booker is an all star
He's flopping too, there's nothing more pathetic than when you can't make a field goal, you start flopping around like a dead fish...
KD and Book aren't interested in winning a championship they just want to hoop. They have the mentality "If it happens cool, if not cool". They're just whatever about losing
No book ain't interested in winning a chip. Keep kd out of it, he's been consistent all season lol
No he has I'm not talking about his play lol but hes not getting pissed at taking Ls. Hes not getting pissed off when they fuck up on the court. He's not taking control of this team even though hes the best player. Instead hes just joking and laughing with everybody laughing with book on the bench. These guys aint serious in winning@@superm1ification
Suns will be forced to trade KD given Beal is untradable. Even if Beal were to waive his no trade clause ENTIRELY, no team would want him at that price. If no improvement occurs by the deadline, it would be wise to pivot from KD despite him being our best player
It’s wise to blow up the whole team. Idk how anybody can still be high on Booker. He’s a fraud. Trade Booker and Durant while teams still want them
Booker 2 Detroit & KD 2 Washington & Beal 2 the Bucks
I’m going to keep saying it until I’m blue in the face. This team is LIGHT YEARS away from being true contenders. Durant is old and Booker is overrated. Blow this team up while teams still want Durant and Booker. There’s a real chance that we hold on to Booker for too long and he’ll turn into Brad Beal 2.0; no team is gonna give up assets for him. BLOW UP THIS TEAM!!
Yeah Book way overrated
Oh my god, 😂😂😂😂😂. What is wrong with fans? Seriously? This isn’t their year, it wasn’t Cav’s year last year, yet look where they are this year. Durant is having his best yr since GSW. Book leaving Phoenix 🙄just stop
@ a better comparison is the Utah jazz when they had Donavan Mitchell. That jazz team knew when to sell high on Mitchell. We should have taken notes and traded Booker a long time ago.
If Bud surrounded Book, KD & Beal with players who have size, defense & rebound off the bench eg: O'Neil, Oso, Bol, Plumb or Nurk & cut Grayson minutes (He can't defend) they'll be fine.
@@deelowe2652Whats wrong with YOU? Are you mentally deficient?
This cavs team runs offense like Nash Suns
These guys should be blowing it up! They are all professional ball players, each with their own set of skills and talent. Where is the organization and where is the intensity? There is zero, YES ZERO intensity YES INTENSITY! Coach Bud just rolls the ball out and hope they can figure it out on their own. Well they should be able to figure it out but there is ZERO INTENSITY to go along with what seems like disorganized and almost disoriented. Budenholzer and his staff are not building or bringing intensity. There is no drive. And starting to look like zero accountability. "We gotta get better" Seriously? Each post game we hear how "we gotta be better." I hate to say this about one of my all time favorite basketball players. The Seattle SuperSonics are now once again my favorite team in the N.B.A. and they are not even in existence. Yet. Thanks for letting me ramble.
Bud is a terrible coach with no offensive scheme. He's low energy and doesn't have a clue. If we had dantoni none of this shit would be going on. Mike Brown would be a much better coach
@1:02:11 You can put Ant over Booker this season for sure, but Steven if it's "what have you done for me lately" don't just brush aside how he played and what everyone thought of Book coming off the Olympics.
Olympics doesn’t mean anything. Books only had one decent playoff run. The finals run everyone crowned him. Now someone else does it. Oh that don’t matter lol You can’t move the goal post
Can Book be a PART of a Championship team? Yeah. Can he be the leader of that team? NOPE. And despite Durant being a better player than him, it's not his team either because he's not the kind of vocal leader that's needed. This is why we only came close with a general like CP3. This version of the Suns cannot win.
@@BeMoreFunny I honestly don’t know if Booker can be part of a championship team. He’s folds when it matters most. I’ve Been calling Booker overrated ever since the 2022 choke job against the mavs. Booker isn’t a winning player imp
We’re gonna get fucked and wait till Book and KD ask to get traded and there value gets shot. Trade them NOW.
04:53 KD's favourite random basketball not working? Impossible.
Ishbia would be really wise to part with Josh Bartelstein. I totally thought he was from the Sarver years but no there’s a connection between the mediocrity and his tenure as CEO.
Real Cavs fan for over 45 years.. Expected a better contest from Suns. Booker looked for calls and seemed like a January in CLE vibe killed his game. Durant was still deadly when he wanted, but appeared disinterested trying to carry the team on a cold day January in CLE. You see my theme. But, if this is consistent, y’all are trouble.
Having a plan is all well and nice, but when it comes down to it, I (KD) just need to cook...he said this and some GM thought, this is a winning player... :D so funny
What worries me is Bud really isn’t pulling the right levers right now. Pick n roll with anybody & Nick Richards is such a good fallback. Maybe Richards is too new still but isn’t that bball 101?
This is why sac struggling cus Demar brought that weak midrange to the kings 😂
You can add all the high price super stars you want, if none of them make the team better, you are just a bad team with super stars.
Until Booker and Durant learn to play defense we not going anywhere they may as well be playing for the money at this point
Durant is literally our best defender which is part of the problem
@ He still lags a little it’s gotta be a full team effort the others are basically looking upset watching booker and Durant take shots
Yeah KD plays D him and Dun are bout the only two who can keep guys in front of them
another trade coming soon
I don’t know why they scared to take threes wtf 🤬
this time it's on the players not the coaches
Shazam! Sad!!
It's not doom and Gloom just yet. We are only 2 games behind the 6th place Lakers. Mavs lost to the Hornets as well. Yeah I'm optimistic. Not giving up just yet.
I know Beal just came back from Injury but he's been terrible even off the bench. If we could get rid of him and Nurk we'd have better options.
no way looking inside not working lmao
this team soft as hhhh book too
Its time to move on from Mike Budenholzer... he clearly doesnt bring anything to the team...
Exactly exactly exactly. I've been saying this for months now but this channel is in cahoots with the owner who doesn't want to lose 55 million on the second coach. But whether he loses money or not the problem is still right there. Budenholzer sucks as a coach. Why is everyone saying blow things up when their problem is right there. This coach sucks. He has no offense.
The fix is easy trade Beal for portis and Middleton
If he says no trad booker and Durant for picks and players and let Beal be part of the rebuild.
If after Beal trade doesn’t work you still trade Booker and Durant and get back as many picks and players as possible
Both teams are above 2nd apron which means they can't do a trade 1 for 2, in this case Bucks
Book & KD must be surrounded with size who rebounder & defends. Grayson Allen is a total joke, playing forward.
Tristan Thompson shot a 3 in 2025, you know your team is cooked
Mike Brown saves us!!
Who ever is calling the shots in the front office need to be fired they should have never fired Monty traded cp3 or ayton when Durant first came to Phoenix they was competing at a high level in the second round of the playoffs now they barely making the play in
Highest level???, they only way they could win was hitting 100% shots, they did for two games, but eventually missed some and got blown the f out
Beak had 5 points they need to just send him home until they trade him do what Houston did with John wall they are worse with him playing
Burn it down trade kd to Houston get as many picks back if booker don't like that then trade booker to Detroit get Cunningham and picks back
Delusional af. Cade is better than Booker. That’s beyond delusional to get him back
@tommartyn524 if they accept they accept deal with it
@@jesusvaz773the pistons WILL NEVER TRADE Cade for Booker. That’s NEVER happening. If the pistons gm did that, he’d be fired immediately
maybe the problem's simple, they never get more possesions than the other team, tyus needs to go to the bench (i know he was promised the starting spot but who gives a f), grayson should take his place. they need a new good wing, and book just can't be point guard ever, he's a shooting guard. yes, i believe KD (the guy with the most TOs) should be the primary guy to start the offense given the roster situation idgaf about his turnovers
Grayson Allen?!? Notice how times Suns opponents build a lead after he enters the game, especially against a good team. He the pigeon 🐦
@ notice how most of his minutes this season have been without having both Kd and book in the court w him
@@srdepr9186 That's not true. Bud always has Book or KD on the court, unless the Suns are getting blown out, like today.
@ notice how i said "both" not one or the other
@@srdepr9186 Grayson always plays with both of them too. In fact he played with them today. Watch the replay. Notice that.
Where's Lindsey?
As a cavs fan, it’s great to hear that a team with KD and Book feels like they’re light years away from this Cavs squad. We’ve come a lot way since LBJ
that kid is a jerk
No Nurk to blame, what a pity
Suns softy team they can score softy def haha championship teams still required top 5 def at least building team softy booker all he can do score cant even make avg def to save his life.
Booker so overrated. Hes trash