Thank you to everyone who tuned in. We apologize for the sound issues & will fix them moving forward. We couldn't drop this via The Penuel Show as the production team there was busy & this needed to come out asap. Thank you for all the comments and if someone can get me Hopewell Chin'ono, I'll be happy to sit with him & dissect some of the issues in Zimbabwe. The goal must be to fix the country, so that the citizens can go back home & rebuild their nation, and help SADC to thrive. Thank you🙏🏽
you biased bruh... why didint you bring hopewell chinono if you want us to believe anything also give hopewell the platform if you not biased otherwise you got paid for this interview ooh
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your consistently objective and rational content. It's refreshing to see someone on TH-cam who isn't afraid to dive into complex issues and offer thoughtful analysis. Your ability to present multiple perspectives and consider all sides of an argument is truly impressive. Keep up the great work, and know that you have a dedicated viewer in me.
This video is very informative on the back of watching the first episode of that documentary. This video reminded me to always get all perspectives on a matter. Thank you Penuel for setting up this interview. Rutendo is a very insightful person to listen to.
He is defending them. Al Jazeera never said people are stealing money, they just said the Zim govt allows people to launder money through their gold...and money laundering isn't theft
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 Miners makes money i get it then gold is sold overseas by individuals who have licenses to trade with gold good, but when the money comes back it doesn't go to state coffers it gets taken by individuals hence there is no state service to the people at all from hospitals, ambulances, schools etc. You are talking about miners who makes money, but who regulate the mines then? who is held accountable when accidents happens in those mines? do they have insurance? i don't think so. Who carry the responsibility of rehabilitating those mines? no one, its everyone for himself. When mines are regulated locals are hired, mines pay tax and that money goes straight to state coffers and not individual politician.
I think the question should be how can, how have they benefited, imagine Zama Zamas being accepted in a free market that would create opportunities. Police will be involved and reduce killings and open access to many South Africans to mining in their own land. Imagine gold refineries that will be open. Job creation will be the end product. We go to CIPC - SARS and to the mining council of south Africa for a license. Poverty would be alleviated N'wana mani
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 unfortunately that's the case, many guys with no education will have and alternatively lifestyle besides crime. Most guys who are into crime if you speak to them they will tell you no one would hire them so bazothini. They end up in crime, when they could be refiners, diggers, excavators paid a dignified salary hayi lamasimba eR3500 (excuse my lingo)
The last part deserves its own episode because we don't talk enough about the sexual assault of boys and men in their formative years and the effect it has on how they express their sexuality and their later years, some even go to the dark side so thank you to Rutendo for being so frank about his own experiences.
This Rutendo guy is benefiting from the looting of Zims resources. What a transition brother, from Edgar's Male model in tur 90s to ZanuPF corruption partner
Once again thank you so much for thought provoking episode 👊🏽. By the way, can invite Rutendo just to talk about business. Step by step guide on how an ordinary citizen (from South Africa and other countries) can invest and conduct business in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼. It look to me that Zimbabwe is open for business, black owned business 👊🏽👊🏽💯.
Love "The Black Pen" icon on the top right corner of the screen. What a lovely episode. Great seeing The Black Pen diversifying his filming environment. Also, really appreciate the black background and the close proximity between Pen and Rutend: it made for an intimate and intense episode.
Thank you brother Rutendo for enlightening us from our perpetual ignorance, hence so much complaining critising, grumbling instead of providing solutions or getting involved in building our beautiful NATION.
Here are my take aways from the session : 1) Rutendo is complicit in this. The fact that some people approach a marketer in SA for Gold and he admits to "know" Henrietta says a lot. A client who wants 100kgs of gold monthly , let that sink in. 2) Rutendo also has got a motive to water down this documentary for his connection with Uebert Angel. Show me a Zimbabwean who doesnt know that Angel is ambassador at large appointed by the president himself....yet here he is referring to that appointment as grapevine. 3) He acknowledges that Rudland is involved. 4) Also acknowledges the white gold dealers. The question is now, if there is no crime why do they find the need to misrepresent their figures when they get back into the country, its their money as you said. Why is he not saying anything about that guy who exposed the planes used by these dealers etc, he admits to facilitate the gold smuggling for over 2 decades. He has done some good researches simply to discredit the documentary not for the truth. Episode 1's goal was simply to establish the fact that the criminals were willing to wash dirty money , period, lets wait for the next one.
Very good summary, Rutendo is failing to call out the smuggling and corruption that was exposed by Al Jazeera. My biggest concern with him is that he seems too obsessed with Americans
I thought it was weird too when he pretended like he doesn't know Uebert Angel is the ambassador at large. I also found it weird that he explained Uebert Angel's comments as just a typical African exaggerating 😂😂😂 haaibo!!!! I also find it strange that he never wants to hold the government accountable. He blames colonization for everything. He did the same thing with Eskom. I'm not discrediting that colonization is at the root of our issues as a continent but the black government cannot be absolved of accountability and responsibility for the current state of SA, Zim, DRC, Nigeria and the so on.
Exactly, the problem in Zimbabwe is that we are dealing with a highly dishonest system which includes this Rutendo guy. Even if you film them slaughtering people they will find some flimsy statement to elbow responsibility aside. It is a spineless system. The difference between it and the colonial system is that the latter did not hide its disregard of the colonized. This one pretends to be acting on behalf of the ordinary Zimbabwean yet they are lining their pockets with foreign currency.
It's laughable how people can actually believe such lies, not the least impressed by this ZANU PF apologetic, a miserable story defending Mnangagwa coming from this guy and he has bamboozled everyone 😅😂😂
Dope interview, south Africa,Zim and drc need to make a cartal for gold to determine the price of our gold... Thanks to God pen and rutendo always make me to research after watching they conversation
This is one of your best podcasts with just FACTS - if South Africans can stop being complacent and thinking they are "better than" attitude to the Zimbabwean issues - maybe just "maybe" we would make a progress in fighting the common enemy for the better good of both countries. ANC = ZANU at the end of the day.
As long as these types of people are influencing public opinions in Africa, the continent will remain poor. Uebert said he could smuggle a total of 1.2 billion dollars and that he will be doing 5 million dollars every week. We are not fools.
Getting a license in Zimbabwe is not an easy task, I have been waiting for 2 years for a license, i have also seen companies that have applied for licence 5 years ago that have not yet got license and been moving from office to office. The company with airwaves also had a struggle with getting a licence for the airwaves for years.
This is what baffles me about the whole situation. Making it easy for fellow Zimbabweans to participate in this would have made more sense what what is currently happening. Considering a lot of the revenue is lost outside the country to non Zimbabweans. The truth of the matter is that they want a monopoly so they can create the least transparency possible for their own gain and are happy to not include Zimbabweans in the trade
Rutendo Matinyarare. What you are missing out is accountability. Yes what you are saying may make sense in your head Rutendo and I hate the fact that it seems you are just in defence mode when it comes to issues regarding the current government of Zimbabwe. 80% of the things you say are right, however I feel that you are not objective enough when it comes to negative things about Zimbabwe. Its my country as well and I wish it well, the same way you do, however when wrongs are done they need to be acknowledged and corrected not defend or justify them. We should be thanking Al jazeera for exposing this for us so we can work on it as a country. Hope you will be objective enough when you read this comment and not see it as an attack.
Blatantly misleading narrative! The characters involved in the documentary are unquestionably criminals indiscriminately harvesting the country's resources for personal benefit! Nothing unusual expressed in the Aljazeera film - corruption, money laundering, fraud are everyday news in Zimbabwe....
He is truly amazing in the way he articulates his arguments and presents the other side. Indeed the collective west is desperate to contain Zimbabwe and the rest of the continent. Their sanctions have failed dismally and out of despair they hired Al Jazeera to do their dirty work for them.
Now I understand the full story, there is no corruption and money laundering in the first documentary. The only person who messed up is Uebert Angel, otherwise everything other thing was above board.
This episode taught me immensely about the importance of artisanal mining. Sad at the same time that the ANC government through its neoliberal policies, artisanal mining is criminalised. Zimbabweans are free and liberated for they enjoy what many Africans are being denied to access. Access to mineral resources of your birthland is the highest level of independence
But yet the ordinary Zimbabwean citizen is not getting a cent of the mineral resources. The money is going to the big boys. They need to redistribute the wealth, so that everyone benefits not a few individuals.
Just spoke to a friend this morning that comes from Zimbabwe. They visited family there this last month. In her own words - it is as tough as nails. They only have power once a week. From 9 to 4 at night. They are not free. The live in poverty. Their government has stolen everything. They are living in the dark ages. They are 200 years behind the rest of civilisation.
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 And those who don't mine. Don't get anything. If the resources belong to the country. Shouldn't everyone in the country be benefitting. Since those smugglers are selling the gold on behalf of the government of Zim. Where does the money from the selling of gold go to?
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you for presenting your more in depth analysis of this situation. However, there is only 1 point a disagreed with, the President does talk about training and employing Prophet Angel as the 1st Ambassador at large on the 1st episode of this series. I look forward to watching you response on all 4 parts of the series
The Zimbabwean government must do everything to protect the land, in South Africa we think everything is good but we don't own our land , in the long run Zimbabwe will be left with Children who are wealthy because their parents didn't sell out , and our children here in SA will complain that we left them nothing
Penuel, it’s a pleasure to come across your channel. I’m a Sierra Leonean who lives in the USA. I like your takes on black-African personal responsibility in the areas of education, politics, business, and wealth creation for the development of Africa. Could not agree more. I disagree with you dismantling the ANC. The ANC frustratingly archaic, however, I believe pressure from young SA for change “might” be better than the alternative. Secondly, I disagree with your decision to join the Afriforum. I believe for someone like you who’s young, with such a ferocious intellect and a platform to engage your people, you should form an organization to galvanize your people to make the change you want to see. You will NEVER change the agenda of Afriforum; when you join them you lose your power and your ability to influence the agenda.
Nice convo guys.. @ Rutendo well done for the last 3mins of this...its a convo that needs to be had.looking forward to it... Pen thanks for taking the time to dig deeper in a place where people have already drawn conclusions..
Shouldn't we wait for all the episodes to drop, before we decide or dismiss the validity of the documentary? Its rather fascinating how people became so defensive after just the first episode...
That will be too much work!! If your opponent throws a punch, you don't wait for them to give you your turn to punch. You punch back immediately as a man!!!
@@zakhemabaso6644 in this case I think slow and steady wins the race... Reactions are fine, but to come with definitive conclusions as if all episodes have been released, is a presumptous. We might all be surprised by the end of this doccie, one way or the other.
Its mind boggling why someone wil defend corruption smugggling and looting in South Africa pple stand up for such things but you support and give ZIMBABWEANS who come to water down any attempts to make Zimbabwe a better country you want Zimbabwe to remain failing
I someone tells everybody they'll give you 3 pieces of ground-breaking news and the 1st one exposes them as having not one ounce of goodness in them and perpetuating the same old narrative creating divisions amongst us, will you wait for the other 2! The West is just scared masipa-less that Zim is finding new friends such as Belarus (which means Russia) and will soon be out of their control like Rwanda, Mali, Burkina Faso or CAR!! Kushubile!!
Thank you Pen for such an amazing platform, very insightful conversations. As a Zimbabwean citizen staying in Zim l strongly disagree with Rutendo. 1) How can he say he doesn't know the appointment of Uebert Angel is an Ambassador at Large by Pres Mnangagwa saying its just grapevine.🤔 2) Which average house of 400 000 is he saying a lot of you Zimbabweans afford? these are lies, a lot of young Zimbabweans are in poverty. We have lots a lot of health care workers the last 2 years seeking greener pastures. 3) l strongly believe a lot of young Zimbabweans do not even know how to use an ATM. whats he talking about us able to withdraw cash. Which cash by the way? 4) Its 200 000 USD to get these Gold Licenses, how many Zimbabweans afford that amount? 5) Hopewell secured 50 dialysis machines for Zimbabwe something our gvt is not doing. @Penuel for better understanding lets also have Hopewell on the platform, someone not biased who will tell the majority/average Zimbabwean person's story.
After watching episode 1 of the documentary couple of days later I came across this podcast on my channel and I did not want to watch it because I was furious thinking how dare Zimbabweans are judging us South Africans yet there are in our country while such nonsense is happening in their country. But I must admit I was blind sided I don't know perhaps my trust had grew on trusting Al Jazeera. I mean if it wasn't for my friend who we share common knowledge, views, etc. with I was never gonna watch this. Thank so much @GodPenuel for such an informative podcast and God bless this man Rutendo Matinyarare, I wish he could be my mentor . . . There is a lot we need to learn as African people! Thank you once again for this!!!
Ive asked this before! No one else finds it odd that the Vice President of the opposition party is a commentator on this? I'm hoping this isn't another attempt of political unrest in Zimbabwe as the timing in itself is questionable, so close to elections. Furthermore, we need Rutendo on this show, again, again, again and again. Teaches us a lot and provides different perspectives supported by facts!
It now makes total sense and its a insightful segment of knowledge ...... These are crucial times and being knowledgeable because there is a lot of propaganda and mental disturbance with looking for one sided story
@@MissTeeDOTMHG why do u think the media felt the need to expose this? Simply because their masters (the elite) r feeling the pain In their pocket cause the man on the street that is not meant to benefit from the wealth of their country is finally benefiting and if u can't see that u need to open your eyes.
S/O Pen for the work you're doing man, I've learnt a lot since interacting with your content, I'm not a penuelist but I'd like to think I've become more resolute in my own convictions and also nimble in terms of assimilating new information.
As to Penuel. Thank you my brother for being yourself. So far I think you are the most objective person I know. I have never seen a person who address issues so objective as you do and please keep it up. I follow you my brother and watch almost every video you post because its all knowledge on your channel. I watched you getting rebuked by a lot of your guest but you don't show emotion on your face , you apologies if you have to and carry on with the interview in as good spirit as ever. Please keep it up my brother!!
I salute both african brothers, the assertive questioning from Penwell and the educational type answering from Rutendo.when such engagements occur I see the resurrection of the great Mwenomotapa kingdom,which is suppose to be SADEC, in today's term. Stay stronger brothers
🤣🤣🤣OMG, how can you say assertive questioning? There is no assertive questioning when there is no critical examination of Rutendo's statements by an impartial third party? This is the problem with us Africans we lack that critical thinking? Put on a third professional to question him and see him crumble like a cookie. Google The Basic Laws of Human stupidity and read it.
Rutendo says White Agents buy gold from Zama Zamas/Small scale miners, pay a government company to refine it, then sell the gold in Dubai. The problem is minerals belong to the people of Zimbabwe and Zimbabweans are supposed to benefit from the minerals in their country, not only the miners are supposed to benefit But all citizens.
Its either my concentration and comprehension was bad when I watched the Al Jazeera doccie OR we are being gaslit by Rutendo (I hope the latter is not the case).
I get that they need to bring cash into Zimbabwe but only a select few benefit! That part about the Zama zamas being rich is false cause why would so many Zimbabweans leave their country when they could be digging for gold and getting rich in Zimbabwe? He clearly trying to spin this but that part is laughable! 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I hope Zimbabwean youth empower themselves by learning the process of playing a part in this wonderful opportunity presented to them by their country instead of going to the streets to protest for criminalization while losing out on getting some piece of wealth of Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans
This is why I ask people not to listen to Rutendo. If truly there were such opportunities available to Zimbabwean wouldn't we grab them? Truly, there are some who benefit from so-called opportunities but at what cost? You have to be partisan or join Zanu.
Very difficult conversation indeed given the compelling nature of the al jazeera docci, but I think having listened to Rutendo it gives a perspective that one won’t have unless you have context from the ground, it’s made me pause and not take that doccie “hook line and sinker” which I think is dangerous and sometimes creates conditions which lead situations like the one in Libya because we all support the narrative that has been built. We really need to wake up and begin to question everything because the nature of the internet is worse than television society easily gets radicalised online and you can get crucified by people who are not rational, this brings a perspective that restores my faith and hope that we must keep pushing as Africans towards bettering this continent against all odds
Pen I enjoy your show love your work. It's interesting how Rutendo is on this campaign for the removal of sanctions I would love for them to go the sad part about Zimbabwe is in the 40+ years of independence Which hv been lead by the Zanu pf government they hv numerous corruption scandals Willowvale, Grain marketing board etc which all before the so called sanctions. We can hide behind the sanctions however the Zimbabwe government has not made an effort to meet the requirements for these sanctions to go as a pple we the moment you raise your voice to demand accountability it met with imprisonment Hopewell raise the issue on covid funds n Gold smuggling being n got arrested. Rutendo with same energy hold the leader ship accountability because once the sanctions are gone this corruption we are seeing is going to be amplified. Revolutionary Parties will be Africas undoing ANC n Zanu pf hv the same mindset when it comes corruption no real accountability the crimes start small before you know it state capture = load shading no medication in hospitals no development.
Thank you God Pen. Don't give up on us..... I'd like to get Hopewell Chin'ono's opinion or perspective on the documentary as well as Rutendo can sound biased at times
So basically this is Africa taking its power back and to their demise some people just can’t handle it… Thank you for the information brother I’m sharing this and subscribing
Brothas THANK YOU!!! The vulnerability which Truth and Transparency can produce is Powerful. Black Pen,your guest was not only informative and highly knowledgeable,but so courageous. His candid disclosure gives us a starting point for earnest conversation if we sincerely want to arrive at solutions to the pervasive "relational disconnect" we are experiencing with each other. TRAUMA....gotta be treated We must find SOLUTIONS to this self implosion... I especially took notice of "'constructive corruption"' I see its viability...😁 Truly engaging and provocative
I honestly can’t believe Rutendo. Disappointing! Zimbabwe is under sanctions with the US Government. Zimbabwe is not under sanction with other power nations Russia , China etc so this can’t be an excuse really. We have grown to accept the corrupt behaviours of the ZANU PF, how about we create an open market in Zimbabwe to trade with both the legal and illegal miners. Dubai does it , to improve cashflow and tax efficiency within Zimbabwe. Stringent policy can be more relaxed. In illegal miners. My biggest concern is the this nonsensical behaviour only seeks to improve the UAE economy. From a capitalism perspective ZANU PF must be able to comprehend the stupidity in all of this.
YES been preaching this for years this clown is just an opportunist and a dangerous tribalist, other countries have Way more sanctions than Zim but are doing well
Rutendo is a young man with an old soul, his very good and articulate when addressing the injustices of the past but opposite when he has to call out the injustices that are currently happening in Zim currently..we can't always blame everything on white people let's take responsibility for once and be progressive in the way we think and do things...
What I took from this is that Rutendo is good at explaining how things should work but is not talking about what transpired in the documentary. Penuel was distracted from asking the important questions and when he did ask important questions the Rutendo went back to his story telling. Rutendo explain what happened not what should happen. It’s very difficult to get truth when the person conducting the interview isn’t negatively impacted by the scandal. eg, an interview conducted by the owner of the business is tougher than an interview conducted by some HR personnel who has no emotional connection to the entity.
@@Zwedish_bass the moment Rutendo said he said he has a pending business with Uebert Angel I knew he was going to play on defensive mode. The only thing I’m glad I picked up in this interview is how the understanding of how the gold sale process works in Zim. That much I can give it him
Agreed this Rutendo guy is very articulate and a master elocutionist. He is sly. He uses these to his advantage to throw an interviewer off the scent of the major topical issue.
Me with my little knowledge Rutendo is covering up everything mahn I watched that investigation two times to make sense of what’s really happening, now hearing him being selective on the investigation. He’s suspicious mahn
Peace, blessings and abundaces brother Pen. I would definitely love to hear more on what brother Rutendo might know or suspect about other uses of gold. I know that it is a much better conductor of electricity than the copper we currently use and, as he mentioned, was placed on the highest tips of some of these tall, ancient megastructures like the obelisks and pyramids. Please dwell more on that if there is chance next time. Thank you.
Just because Uebert Angel said I can carry 1.2billion through the airport and not be searched doesn't mean that's what he meant literally its just a metaphor to saying I can transport anything i want through the airport because I am that powerful ,he even goes further to saying I can put someone in a suitcase and not be searched nhai Rutendo zvaunoita sewakadzidza wani
Great & relevant interview Pen! But learn to acknowledge the points of your guest rather than simply moving along or changing the subject when he makes a good point. It makes you seem as though you don’t want to acknowledge not being aware of certain information…
Such wealth of information can never be if one doesn't read and dig for facts. Matinyarare I salute you for being a living library and being able to dish it out in the way you do.
As a person, Once you start having meetings with high profile criminals, high chances are that you may also start doing the criminal activities. Im just saying...
rutendo must be benefiting from zanu pf and illegal gold mining.. how can he justify individuals benefiting from the country resources instead of government for poor's to benefit also
The real issue is only a few individuals benefit from the profits of exporting this gold. This is what Rutendo fails comprehend. Its no secret that Zimbabwe have sanctions imposed to but at least the money should contribute to the development of infrastructure and combat social ills.
Rutendo first says Agents are buying g gold in Zimbabwe and selling it in Dubai then says again that there is only one company that can export but the Agents are not part of that mmca government company. What we see here is that miners are not allowed to export the gold but foreign agents of all different colors are allowed to do this and make billions while Zimbabweans are getting pennies. Also, Where is the proof that tax is being paid by these agents? How much tax? And where is it going? In such an impoverished country, where is the tax on the 125 billion dollar gold market going?
This is a very important point that no one is addressing. If you look at the amount of money lost from the deal that could be directed to Zimbabweans within this process it’s crazy. From the commission all the way to the discount being given
@Tatenda M You see, this government says the economy is suffering because Zimbabwe cannot trade due to sanctions.. Yet Zimbabwe is trading away its minerals just fine.
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Thank you to everyone who tuned in. We apologize for the sound issues & will fix them moving forward. We couldn't drop this via The Penuel Show as the production team there was busy & this needed to come out asap.
Thank you for all the comments and if someone can get me Hopewell Chin'ono, I'll be happy to sit with him & dissect some of the issues in Zimbabwe. The goal must be to fix the country, so that the citizens can go back home & rebuild their nation, and help SADC to thrive. Thank you🙏🏽
Yeah fukk Al Jazeera anyway
you biased bruh... why didint you bring hopewell chinono if you want us to believe anything also give hopewell the platform if you not biased otherwise you got paid for this interview ooh
Hows he biased? Did Hopewell complain somewhere that Penuel is denying him this platform, how's having this interview on here biased?
Episode 2 Broadcast was this morning at 5am and the 2nd episode should be released tomorrow morning.
@@divinetinashe6640 Comments like yours are why I block ppl on Twitter. The mindset is just so pathetic... but not surprising. Do better please.
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your consistently objective and rational content. It's refreshing to see someone on TH-cam who isn't afraid to dive into complex issues and offer thoughtful analysis. Your ability to present multiple perspectives and consider all sides of an argument is truly impressive. Keep up the great work, and know that you have a dedicated viewer in me.
This episode was neither objective or rational. They defending the indefensible and penuel is giving this asshole a platform.
I second that, well put together and from me too keep up the good work. Phambili…👊🏾🙏🏾
Since Pen stopped swearing, I'm now able to listen to him and get to learn from him. Great interview I must say
I will travel to Zimbabwe and apply for a gold license to verify if the process is as straightforward as he & Maponga claim.
Good luck, locals even struggle getting that license, only Chinese seems to get it quickly
We'll be waiting with for indaba ezinhle zodwa, otherwise Zim is Afro phobic. 😏
This Rutendo is a paid actor.
Don't waste your time unless you are Chinese or Zanu elite..
come with a gun... its a mafia state dont beleive the propaganda.
This video is very informative on the back of watching the first episode of that documentary. This video reminded me to always get all perspectives on a matter. Thank you Penuel for setting up this interview. Rutendo is a very insightful person to listen to.
I love Rutendo but after watching the 1st episode of the documentary I can say that he is defending the people exposed in the documentary.
He will feature in one of the coming episodes
Explain how he is defending 🤔
@@Jaysquared1 if you know,you know
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He is defending them. Al Jazeera never said people are stealing money, they just said the Zim govt allows people to launder money through their gold...and money laundering isn't theft
I'm still trying to pin point, how a fellow Zimbabwean benefits from all this constructive corruption.... Great studio set up Pen.
My question too, how does that benefit the guy at the bottom? because all these money doesn't go to the state coffers to service the people.
That's what I want to know, too
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 Miners makes money i get it then gold is sold overseas by individuals who have licenses to trade with gold good, but when the money comes back it doesn't go to state coffers it gets taken by individuals hence there is no state service to the people at all from hospitals, ambulances, schools etc.
You are talking about miners who makes money, but who regulate the mines then? who is held accountable when accidents happens in those mines? do they have insurance? i don't think so. Who carry the responsibility of rehabilitating those mines? no one, its everyone for himself.
When mines are regulated locals are hired, mines pay tax and that money goes straight to state coffers and not individual politician.
I think the question should be how can, how have they benefited, imagine Zama Zamas being accepted in a free market that would create opportunities. Police will be involved and reduce killings and open access to many South Africans to mining in their own land. Imagine gold refineries that will be open. Job creation will be the end product. We go to CIPC - SARS and to the mining council of south Africa for a license. Poverty would be alleviated N'wana mani
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 unfortunately that's the case, many guys with no education will have and alternatively lifestyle besides crime. Most guys who are into crime if you speak to them they will tell you no one would hire them so bazothini. They end up in crime, when they could be refiners, diggers, excavators paid a dignified salary hayi lamasimba eR3500 (excuse my lingo)
Thanks to Pen for this segment, I wish these conversations were longer and covered more ground. Congratulations on your new studio setup!!
The last part deserves its own episode because we don't talk enough about the sexual assault of boys and men in their formative years and the effect it has on how they express their sexuality and their later years, some even go to the dark side so thank you to Rutendo for being so frank about his own experiences.
Pen I never took you seriously as a god but damn bro you are omnipresent. Putting in more work than entire media groups with unlimited budgets.
I like this guy but the idea of god eish mathata
@@netshiendeulutshivhidzo4353 😂😂😂just laugh it off like i do and follow the content
He's God in his own right, might not be your God.
Zimbabwe government really need to communicate with people openly. A silent good guy is never win from a evil guy.
This Rutendo guy is benefiting from the looting of Zims resources. What a transition brother, from Edgar's Male model in tur 90s to ZanuPF corruption partner
He's just another Zanu PF apologetic masquerading as a self made think tank, I used to think he is intelligent but just another Zanu PF project
Once again thank you so much for thought provoking episode 👊🏽. By the way, can invite Rutendo just to talk about business. Step by step guide on how an ordinary citizen (from South Africa and other countries) can invest and conduct business in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼. It look to me that Zimbabwe is open for business, black owned business 👊🏽👊🏽💯.
Love "The Black Pen" icon on the top right corner of the screen.
What a lovely episode.
Great seeing The Black Pen diversifying his filming environment. Also, really appreciate the black background and the close proximity between Pen and Rutend: it made for an intimate and intense episode.
I'm with you on that one 🔥🔥
Much love from Zimbabwe. Keep up the good work. We need more Africans like you and Rutendo.
What a damn shame!!
This is for me the most insightful, educational, life changing podcast 👌💯 Thanx Pen, pound to pound the Penuel show is the best
Thank you brother Rutendo for enlightening us from our perpetual ignorance, hence so much complaining critising, grumbling instead of providing solutions or getting involved in building our beautiful NATION.
Here are my take aways from the session :
1) Rutendo is complicit in this. The fact that some people approach a marketer in SA for Gold and he admits to "know" Henrietta says a lot. A client who wants 100kgs of gold monthly , let that sink in.
2) Rutendo also has got a motive to water down this documentary for his connection with Uebert Angel. Show me a Zimbabwean who doesnt know that Angel is ambassador at large appointed by the president himself....yet here he is referring to that appointment as grapevine.
3) He acknowledges that Rudland is involved.
4) Also acknowledges the white gold dealers.
The question is now, if there is no crime why do they find the need to misrepresent their figures when they get back into the country, its their money as you said.
Why is he not saying anything about that guy who exposed the planes used by these dealers etc, he admits to facilitate the gold smuggling for over 2 decades.
He has done some good researches simply to discredit the documentary not for the truth.
Episode 1's goal was simply to establish the fact that the criminals were willing to wash dirty money , period, lets wait for the next one.
Very good summary, Rutendo is failing to call out the smuggling and corruption that was exposed by Al Jazeera. My biggest concern with him is that he seems too obsessed with Americans
I thought it was weird too when he pretended like he doesn't know Uebert Angel is the ambassador at large. I also found it weird that he explained Uebert Angel's comments as just a typical African exaggerating 😂😂😂 haaibo!!!! I also find it strange that he never wants to hold the government accountable. He blames colonization for everything. He did the same thing with Eskom. I'm not discrediting that colonization is at the root of our issues as a continent but the black government cannot be absolved of accountability and responsibility for the current state of SA, Zim, DRC, Nigeria and the so on.
Exactly, the problem in Zimbabwe is that we are dealing with a highly dishonest system which includes this Rutendo guy. Even if you film them slaughtering people they will find some flimsy statement to elbow responsibility aside. It is a spineless system. The difference between it and the colonial system is that the latter did not hide its disregard of the colonized. This one pretends to be acting on behalf of the ordinary Zimbabwean yet they are lining their pockets with foreign currency.
It's laughable how people can actually believe such lies, not the least impressed by this ZANU PF apologetic, a miserable story defending Mnangagwa coming from this guy and he has bamboozled everyone 😅😂😂
Why then if its Legal we have People in the Airport RGM who are doing deals on channelling the Gold to leave?
Dope interview, south Africa,Zim and drc need to make a cartal for gold to determine the price of our gold... Thanks to God pen and rutendo always make me to research after watching they conversation
This was Stella Pen. Much appreciated!!! Very insightful conversation
This is one of your best podcasts with just FACTS - if South Africans can stop being complacent and thinking they are "better than" attitude to the Zimbabwean issues - maybe just "maybe" we would make a progress in fighting the common enemy for the better good of both countries. ANC = ZANU at the end of the day.
Rutendo advocates for the ANC though 😂
Shout out to God Pen for speaking in a language and explaining things that even for amajita ekasi would understand ❤
As long as these types of people are influencing public opinions in Africa, the continent will remain poor. Uebert said he could smuggle a total of 1.2 billion dollars and that he will be doing 5 million dollars every week. We are not fools.
Exactly, Africa is in trouble.
Getting a license in Zimbabwe is not an easy task, I have been waiting for 2 years for a license, i have also seen companies that have applied for licence 5 years ago that have not yet got license and been moving from office to office. The company with airwaves also had a struggle with getting a licence for the airwaves for years.
This is what baffles me about the whole situation. Making it easy for fellow Zimbabweans to participate in this would have made more sense what what is currently happening.
Considering a lot of the revenue is lost outside the country to non Zimbabweans.
The truth of the matter is that they want a monopoly so they can create the least transparency possible for their own gain and are happy to not include Zimbabweans in the trade
Me also applied in 2015 still waiting
Rutendo Matinyarare. What you are missing out is accountability. Yes what you are saying may make sense in your head Rutendo and I hate the fact that it seems you are just in defence mode when it comes to issues regarding the current government of Zimbabwe. 80% of the things you say are right, however I feel that you are not objective enough when it comes to negative things about Zimbabwe. Its my country as well and I wish it well, the same way you do, however when wrongs are done they need to be acknowledged and corrected not defend or justify them. We should be thanking Al jazeera for exposing this for us so we can work on it as a country. Hope you will be objective enough when you read this comment and not see it as an attack.
Blatantly misleading narrative! The characters involved in the documentary are unquestionably criminals indiscriminately harvesting the country's resources for personal benefit! Nothing unusual expressed in the Aljazeera film - corruption, money laundering, fraud are everyday news in Zimbabwe....
I am enjoying how the guys are easily unpacking this issue. Big to you Pen for the platform
I LOVE THE WAY RUTENDO CAN DISSECT A TOPIC AND CLARIFY A SITUATION.
its all smoke and mirrors he is a zanu apologist ......
He is truly amazing in the way he articulates his arguments and presents the other side. Indeed the collective west is desperate to contain Zimbabwe and the rest of the continent. Their sanctions have failed dismally and out of despair they hired Al Jazeera to do their dirty work for them.
Now I understand the full story, there is no corruption and money laundering in the first documentary. The only person who messed up is Uebert Angel, otherwise everything other thing was above board.
@@deanerickhumalo1480 what are the "facts", according to you, not spin?
Lol people get excited by good English speakers. This guy is a fraud .
This episode taught me immensely about the importance of artisanal mining. Sad at the same time that the ANC government through its neoliberal policies, artisanal mining is criminalised. Zimbabweans are free and liberated for they enjoy what many Africans are being denied to access. Access to mineral resources of your birthland is the highest level of independence
But yet the ordinary Zimbabwean citizen is not getting a cent of the mineral resources. The money is going to the big boys. They need to redistribute the wealth, so that everyone benefits not a few individuals.
Just spoke to a friend this morning that comes from Zimbabwe. They visited family there this last month. In her own words - it is as tough as nails. They only have power once a week. From 9 to 4 at night. They are not free. The live in poverty. Their government has stolen everything. They are living in the dark ages. They are 200 years behind the rest of civilisation.
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 And those who don't mine. Don't get anything. If the resources belong to the country. Shouldn't everyone in the country be benefitting. Since those smugglers are selling the gold on behalf of the government of Zim. Where does the money from the selling of gold go to?
@@knowz2367 how does your government pay doctors, nurses, teachers etc under the economic sanctions?
What a powerful outro Penuel and an amazing conversation with our brother Rutendo
Good information as usual, this man is an African pride lets keep fighting go iAfrika mayi buye!!!
I wish you invite Rutendo at least with another scholar or political analyst then we can have balanced views
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you for presenting your more in depth analysis of this situation. However, there is only 1 point a disagreed with, the President does talk about training and employing Prophet Angel as the 1st Ambassador at large on the 1st episode of this series.
I look forward to watching you response on all 4 parts of the series
The Zimbabwean government must do everything to protect the land, in South Africa we think everything is good but we don't own our land , in the long run Zimbabwe will be left with Children who are wealthy because their parents didn't sell out , and our children here in SA will complain that we left them nothing
Pen, I'm glad you did this interview before I watch the documentary. Bigups.
I love this man, may God bless you a million-fold Rutendo.
Penuel, it’s a pleasure to come across your channel.
I’m a Sierra Leonean who lives in the USA.
I like your takes on black-African personal responsibility in the areas of education, politics, business, and wealth creation for the development of Africa. Could not agree more.
I disagree with you dismantling the ANC. The ANC frustratingly archaic, however, I believe pressure from young SA for change “might” be better than the alternative.
Secondly, I disagree with your decision to join the Afriforum.
I believe for someone like you who’s young, with such a ferocious intellect and a platform to engage your people, you should form an organization to galvanize your people to make the change you want to see.
You will NEVER change the agenda of Afriforum; when you join them you lose your power and your ability to influence the agenda.
Rutendo singing for his supper
Nice convo guys.. @ Rutendo well done for the last 3mins of this...its a convo that needs to be had.looking forward to it... Pen thanks for taking the time to dig deeper in a place where people have already drawn conclusions..
@The Black Pen, thank you very much for what you’re doing!! Great stuff, with all your videos!
Thank you so much Rutendo for giving us a broader perspective. You always discuss issues in great depth
Shouldn't we wait for all the episodes to drop, before we decide or dismiss the validity of the documentary? Its rather fascinating how people became so defensive after just the first episode...
That will be too much work!! If your opponent throws a punch, you don't wait for them to give you your turn to punch. You punch back immediately as a man!!!
@@zakhemabaso6644 in this case I think slow and steady wins the race... Reactions are fine, but to come with definitive conclusions as if all episodes have been released, is a presumptous. We might all be surprised by the end of this doccie, one way or the other.
Its mind boggling why someone wil defend corruption smugggling and looting in South Africa pple stand up for such things but you support and give ZIMBABWEANS who come to water down any attempts to make Zimbabwe a better country you want Zimbabwe to remain failing
I someone tells everybody they'll give you 3 pieces of ground-breaking news and the 1st one exposes them as having not one ounce of goodness in them and perpetuating the same old narrative creating divisions amongst us, will you wait for the other 2! The West is just scared masipa-less that Zim is finding new friends such as Belarus (which means Russia) and will soon be out of their control like Rwanda, Mali, Burkina Faso or CAR!! Kushubile!!
Thank you Pen for such an amazing platform, very insightful conversations. As a Zimbabwean citizen staying in Zim l strongly disagree with Rutendo.
1) How can he say he doesn't know the appointment of Uebert Angel is an Ambassador at Large by Pres Mnangagwa saying its just grapevine.🤔
2) Which average house of 400 000 is he saying a lot of you Zimbabweans afford? these are lies, a lot of young Zimbabweans are in poverty. We have lots a lot of health care workers the last 2 years seeking greener pastures.
3) l strongly believe a lot of young Zimbabweans do not even know how to use an ATM. whats he talking about us able to withdraw cash. Which cash by the way?
4) Its 200 000 USD to get these Gold Licenses, how many Zimbabweans afford that amount?
5) Hopewell secured 50 dialysis machines for Zimbabwe something our gvt is not doing.
@Penuel for better understanding lets also have Hopewell on the platform, someone not biased who will tell the majority/average Zimbabwean person's story.
Aaaah Rutendo amanga, to get that license you must pay someone, my brother applied and he has been waiting for years now
After watching episode 1 of the documentary couple of days later I came across this podcast on my channel and I did not want to watch it because I was furious thinking how dare Zimbabweans are judging us South Africans yet there are in our country while such nonsense is happening in their country. But I must admit I was blind sided I don't know perhaps my trust had grew on trusting Al Jazeera. I mean if it wasn't for my friend who we share common knowledge, views, etc. with I was never gonna watch this. Thank so much @GodPenuel for such an informative podcast and God bless this man Rutendo Matinyarare, I wish he could be my mentor . . . There is a lot we need to learn as African people! Thank you once again for this!!!
Ive asked this before! No one else finds it odd that the Vice President of the opposition party is a commentator on this? I'm hoping this isn't another attempt of political unrest in Zimbabwe as the timing in itself is questionable, so close to elections. Furthermore, we need Rutendo on this show, again, again, again and again. Teaches us a lot and provides different perspectives supported by facts!
It now makes total sense and its a insightful segment of knowledge ...... These are crucial times and being knowledgeable because there is a lot of propaganda and mental disturbance with looking for one sided story
This has changed from being corruption story to a beautiful story of our brothers and sisters finally benefiting from their countrie's wealth.
A beautiful story? 😢
@@MissTeeDOTMHG why do u think the media felt the need to expose this? Simply because their masters (the elite) r feeling the pain In their pocket cause the man on the street that is not meant to benefit from the wealth of their country is finally benefiting and if u can't see that u need to open your eyes.
Rutendo always humbles me
Very informative discussion!!!!
I like Penuel too because he's never judgemental
S/O Pen for the work you're doing man, I've learnt a lot since interacting with your content, I'm not a penuelist but I'd like to think I've become more resolute in my own convictions and also nimble in terms of assimilating new information.
As to Penuel. Thank you my brother for being yourself. So far I think you are the most objective person I know. I have never seen a person who address issues so objective as you do and please keep it up. I follow you my brother and watch almost every video you post because its all knowledge on your channel. I watched you getting rebuked by a lot of your guest but you don't show emotion on your face , you apologies if you have to and carry on with the interview in as good spirit as ever. Please keep it up my brother!!
I salute both african brothers, the assertive questioning from Penwell and the educational type answering from Rutendo.when such engagements occur I see the resurrection of the great Mwenomotapa kingdom,which is suppose to be SADEC, in today's term. Stay stronger brothers
🤣🤣🤣OMG, how can you say assertive questioning? There is no assertive questioning when there is no critical examination of Rutendo's statements by an impartial third party? This is the problem with us Africans we lack that critical thinking? Put on a third professional to question him and see him crumble like a cookie. Google The Basic Laws of Human stupidity and read it.
Rutendo says White Agents buy gold from Zama Zamas/Small scale miners, pay a government company to refine it, then sell the gold in Dubai. The problem is minerals belong to the people of Zimbabwe and Zimbabweans are supposed to benefit from the minerals in their country, not only the miners are supposed to benefit But all citizens.
Its either my concentration and comprehension was bad when I watched the Al Jazeera doccie OR we are being gaslit by Rutendo (I hope the latter is not the case).
You are being gaslit by this idiot 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Perhaps it's time to re-watch
Definitely gaslighting
Nhlanhla lux 2.0
Rutendo is involved in all of this Gold Mafia.
Elaborate with facts the gold mafia
Ofcourse since Mugabes error
The night idea is GOLD 🔥🔥🔥
Gosh i never realised that Rutendo can be this compromised, especially the guy being so knowledgeable and an intellect .
Am dissapointed
I'm also disappointed, the man is twerking for Mnangagwa
Tell Europe to lift sanctions then
This is sad bro
@@glenroylowe6053 sanctions are not an excuse for those criminals to loot the country whilst a lot of ordinary people continue to suffer..
I get that they need to bring cash into Zimbabwe but only a select few benefit! That part about the Zama zamas being rich is false cause why would so many Zimbabweans leave their country when they could be digging for gold and getting rich in Zimbabwe? He clearly trying to spin this but that part is laughable! 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Exactly
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 is it only dangerous in Zimbabwe? I mean some go to SA to be zama zamas! 🤔
From zama zaming to millionaires 😂😅😂😅😂
@@judyatoro9387 he thinks we will fall for that!!
@@eugenehlabangwane4183 they can't all dig gold
Penuel my bro - Your work is highly appreciated my bro. Thank you 👍🏽🌍
I can’t believe what I’m seeing… so there isn’t corruption? Rutendo has an axe to grind he’s intellectually dishonest.
Listening is a skill. He did say he believes there is corruption in Zim
What is corruption?
Exactly 😢he must go repair portholes on his country and buy them medicines they are here intellectualising 😊
I hope Zimbabwean youth empower themselves by learning the process of playing a part in this wonderful opportunity presented to them by their country instead of going to the streets to protest for criminalization while losing out on getting some piece of wealth of Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans
This is why I ask people not to listen to Rutendo. If truly there were such opportunities available to Zimbabwean wouldn't we grab them? Truly, there are some who benefit from so-called opportunities but at what cost? You have to be partisan or join Zanu.
Theres no such thing in Zimbabwe you have to have a high rank in the ruling party or must be Chinese for to get these opportunities.
This kind of Podcast is Out performing mainstream media by leaps and bounds...perfect knowledgeable content 🙌
Also try George Galloway he does a show named MOATS. Sometimes he does get carried away in his hyperbole i must warn you beforehand
@@Flaviogee sure thanks mate for the recommendation I will definitely check it out🙌
@randomgis1044 because it is about gossip.
Big up Rutendo you are an eye opener
At last a refreshing view. After watching the Al Jazeera documentary twice I have come to very similar conclusions.
This has changed my view on the whole documentary. Thank you! So many things have been left out and all for the reason of making Zim look terrible.
I think I need to first watch the documentary before I come back and watch this important conversation 🔥🔥🔥
I feel They(IMF)are trying to kill Zimbabwe’s gold trade cause its black and successful(inspite the sections)and they don’t have a cut in that trade!!
I'm glad you are enlightened unlike many folks here. The West have no power over Zim Gold
Most of Zimbabweans gold is owned by America
Very difficult conversation indeed given the compelling nature of the al jazeera docci, but I think having listened to Rutendo it gives a perspective that one won’t have unless you have context from the ground, it’s made me pause and not take that doccie “hook line and sinker” which I think is dangerous and sometimes creates conditions which lead situations like the one in Libya because we all support the narrative that has been built. We really need to wake up and begin to question everything because the nature of the internet is worse than television society easily gets radicalised online and you can get crucified by people who are not rational, this brings a perspective that restores my faith and hope that we must keep pushing as Africans towards bettering this continent against all odds
Mnangagwa's spin doctor👏👏👏👏
Pen I enjoy your show love your work. It's interesting how Rutendo is on this campaign for the removal of sanctions I would love for them to go the sad part about Zimbabwe is in the 40+ years of independence Which hv been lead by the Zanu pf government they hv numerous corruption scandals Willowvale, Grain marketing board etc which all before the so called sanctions. We can hide behind the sanctions however the Zimbabwe government has not made an effort to meet the requirements for these sanctions to go as a pple we the moment you raise your voice to demand accountability it met with imprisonment Hopewell raise the issue on covid funds n Gold smuggling being n got arrested. Rutendo with same energy hold the leader ship accountability because once the sanctions are gone this corruption we are seeing is going to be amplified. Revolutionary Parties will be Africas undoing ANC n Zanu pf hv the same mindset when it comes corruption no real accountability the crimes start small before you know it state capture = load shading no medication in hospitals no development.
Thank you God Pen. Don't give up on us..... I'd like to get Hopewell Chin'ono's opinion or perspective on the documentary as well as Rutendo can sound biased at times
True
Rutendo he’s a ZANU Asset, he will protect ZANU by all means
So basically this is Africa taking its power back and to their demise some people just can’t handle it…
Thank you for the information brother I’m sharing this and subscribing
Brothas THANK YOU!!!
The vulnerability which Truth and Transparency can produce is Powerful.
Black Pen,your guest was not only informative and highly knowledgeable,but so courageous. His candid disclosure gives us a starting point for earnest conversation if we sincerely want to arrive at solutions to the pervasive
"relational disconnect" we are experiencing with each other.
TRAUMA....gotta be treated
We must find SOLUTIONS to this self implosion...
I especially took notice of "'constructive corruption"'
I see its viability...😁
Truly engaging and provocative
I am becoming a fan of this podcast. What an amazing episode. Now imagine Rutendo and Vusi Thembekwayo in one episode...Think about it Penuel
Rutendo is a puppet and Vusi is just a legend who calls a spade a spade Rutendo is always lying defending corruption. These 2 are at different levels
@@shingaimatipano6483 see why it would be an interesting conversation
I honestly can’t believe Rutendo. Disappointing! Zimbabwe is under sanctions with the US Government. Zimbabwe is not under sanction with other power nations Russia , China etc so this can’t be an excuse really. We have grown to accept the corrupt behaviours of the ZANU PF, how about we create an open market in Zimbabwe to trade with both the legal and illegal miners. Dubai does it , to improve cashflow and tax efficiency within Zimbabwe. Stringent policy can be more relaxed. In illegal miners. My biggest concern is the this nonsensical behaviour only seeks to improve the UAE economy. From a capitalism perspective ZANU PF must be able to comprehend the stupidity in all of this.
YES been preaching this for years this clown is just an opportunist and a dangerous tribalist, other countries have Way more sanctions than Zim but are doing well
Rutendo is a young man with an old soul, his very good and articulate when addressing the injustices of the past but opposite when he has to call out the injustices that are currently happening in Zim currently..we can't always blame everything on white people let's take responsibility for once and be progressive in the way we think and do things...
What I took from this is that Rutendo is good at explaining how things should work but is not talking about what transpired in the documentary. Penuel was distracted from asking the important questions and when he did ask important questions the Rutendo went back to his story telling.
Rutendo explain what happened not what should happen. It’s very difficult to get truth when the person conducting the interview isn’t negatively impacted by the scandal. eg, an interview conducted by the owner of the business is tougher than an interview conducted by some HR personnel who has no emotional connection to the entity.
Thank you for this, my exact sentiments
Correct
@@Zwedish_bass the moment Rutendo said he said he has a pending business with Uebert Angel I knew he was going to play on defensive mode. The only thing I’m glad I picked up in this interview is how the understanding of how the gold sale process works in Zim. That much I can give it him
Agreed this Rutendo guy is very articulate and a master elocutionist. He is sly. He uses these to his advantage to throw an interviewer off the scent of the major topical issue.
Correct, the moment he said he spoke about business with Angel, that sealed it for me , he will defend the mafia at all costs
❤❤❤Now we see the genesis of the saga. Thank you for digging deep❤❤❤
Mr Rutendo is really good in breaking down and analyzing . 👏👏👏
True but he must stop defending the wrongs that are happening in Zim. Always blaming the West even if it’s not necessary
🤣🤣🤣🤣If you say this was an analysis you still have a lot to learn.
Me with my little knowledge Rutendo is covering up everything mahn I watched that investigation two times to make sense of what’s really happening, now hearing him being selective on the investigation. He’s suspicious mahn
@@dorothymtetwa3844 what is to analyze ? because maybe I don't know the definition. Please school me.
That's what Conman do they make you believe the unbelievable this what this Rutendo guy is doing
Thank you so much Penuel for this interview
Always a good day when I see a new Rutendo post 😊 Cannot wait to dive in.
Phenuel you are getting mature and was
Objective in this discussion not interrupting well done man
Always Oan Africanist Rutando
This guy's credibility is out of the water! 😢 Lost respect. No nuance, Nothing! You can raise concerns but not such one sided argument
You only seeing this clown 🤡 for who he is now 🤣
I wish there were more people like you, who can see right through him. I've always said that Rutendo is a spin doctor, a heartless human being.
Siyabonga we Penual ngokuletha umkhaya wami azosivula amehlo kube kuyangami besizoyeka ukuvumela ukusetshenziswa ilaba abangafuni ukusibona sithuthuka kunaloko sibize bona bazosisiza ekuvuseni imindeni yethu ukuze kuzoba noshintsho esizukulwaneni sethu.
This guy is a huge asset for SADC I would like work with him. Rutendo 👊🏾
Peace, blessings and abundaces brother Pen. I would definitely love to hear more on what brother Rutendo might know or suspect about other uses of gold. I know that it is a much better conductor of electricity than the copper we currently use and, as he mentioned, was placed on the highest tips of some of these tall, ancient megastructures like the obelisks and pyramids. Please dwell more on that if there is chance next time. Thank you.
Just because Uebert Angel said I can carry 1.2billion through the airport and not be searched doesn't mean that's what he meant literally its just a metaphor to saying I can transport anything i want through the airport because I am that powerful ,he even goes further to saying I can put someone in a suitcase and not be searched nhai Rutendo zvaunoita sewakadzidza wani
Do you still hold that view now that the 4th part has been aired?
@Gleams Ndlovu did the part 4 have any different narrative,please enlighten me
Thank you so much for this episode Penuel and Rutendo.
Great & relevant interview Pen! But learn to acknowledge the points of your guest rather than simply moving along or changing the subject when he makes a good point. It makes you seem as though you don’t want to acknowledge not being aware of certain information…
I was waiting for this episode... Thanks for making it happen......
Such wealth of information can never be if one doesn't read and dig for facts. Matinyarare I salute you for being a living library and being able to dish it out in the way you do.
thank you Pen and Rutendo... i really love your content.
He also lies about not being Zanu PF but turns a blind eye on the abuse of citizens why does he not raise those concerns.
Cause most citizens being brutalized are not from his tribe 😉
"THIS IS STUFF THATS THERE TO READ"..... wow those words, the brother will pop your head off with words alone... Africa l hope you are taking notes
As a person, Once you start having meetings with high profile criminals, high chances are that you may also start doing the criminal activities. Im just saying...
I have learned a lot from this show ,though penuel has fallen out of my favorite ,but this is an eye opener for all Africans
This must speak to South Africans on the importance of Land Expropriation without Compensation and Nationalisation of ALL mines.
A terrible idea
@@mashuduthidiela9643 explain.
@@mashuduthidiela9643 😅😂😅🤣so that all of us can be zama zamas to millionaires like what rutendo Said is happening in Zim😂😅😂😂
No way
Zimbabweans have all the land but hospitals don't have resources
I was waiting for this, the way Rutendo was defending Zimbabwe on your last episode with him.
rutendo must be benefiting from zanu pf and illegal gold mining.. how can he justify individuals benefiting from the country resources instead of government for poor's to benefit also
I'm surprised as well how the poor masses of Zim benefits from this gold trading?
Who are these miners. Are they not Zimbabweans?
Ofcourse these are the beneficiaries
Then you don't undestand!
The real issue is only a few individuals benefit from the profits of exporting this gold. This is what Rutendo fails comprehend. Its no secret that Zimbabwe have sanctions imposed to but at least the money should contribute to the development of infrastructure and combat social ills.
Rutendo first says Agents are buying g gold in Zimbabwe and selling it in Dubai then says again that there is only one company that can export but the Agents are not part of that mmca government company. What we see here is that miners are not allowed to export the gold but foreign agents of all different colors are allowed to do this and make billions while Zimbabweans are getting pennies. Also, Where is the proof that tax is being paid by these agents? How much tax? And where is it going? In such an impoverished country, where is the tax on the 125 billion dollar gold market going?
This is a very important point that no one is addressing. If you look at the amount of money lost from the deal that could be directed to Zimbabweans within this process it’s crazy. From the commission all the way to the discount being given
@Tatenda M You see, this government says the economy is suffering because Zimbabwe cannot trade due to sanctions.. Yet Zimbabwe is trading away its minerals just fine.
this was very informative and the guy speaks the truth about us blacks