The fact that this track only benefits a straight path to Toad Town/Peach's (Fawful's) Castle in a game with fast travel checkpoints with nothing to collect along the way, yet goes this hard into the level of detail for the background, and let’s you go the full loop of the track without being cut off, just goes to show how much detail Alpha Dream put into the smallest details of this game.
@@jaycruz1Alpha Dream as a company has been dead since early 2020 and no one really knows what happened to the devs that worked there. Nintendo has the rights to the M&L series and can contract someone else to develop them if they want to.
I did take a look but when I saw the new bottom screen map I went back and thought nothing of it except that it was just another way to fast travel. If I’d known there would be more pixel art about the other places, especially in a way that gave the game the illusion of a more open world perspective I would have stuck around!
@@gordoperodeculto2967 I bet bowser can transform into a Jeep if he was a real autobot and I can get that toy for my birthday 🥳 🎂 🎉 and/or Christmas 🤶 🎅 🎄 which will be legit.
my theory about this, when i first found it years ago on one of my playthroughs, was that this was his original ‘fast travel’ before the chakroads were added. ie; they added it in later in development, but idk
That’s the only thing that makes sense, since bowser has no reason to go here once you get the roll ability, since by the time you clear the lumbar nook you’re infiltrating peach’s castle at the end of the game
@@jackhumphries1087 I think portions of the game's story were different, so Bowser could have access the railway earlier than in the game. While it is a cool idea, the Chakroad system is more streamlined.
Very late because It has graphics and its traversable, honestly im surprised I havent seen any research about the development of this game or the other Mario and Luigi tittles
@@jackhumphries1087 There are areas Bowser couldn't reach without the spike ball, with item blocks. Pretty sure there's some exclusive equipment. I try and get every collectible in rpgs.
This was one of my favorite parts of the game, honestly. There's just something about this railway that I can't get enough of, I'd purposefully go out of my way to use it instead of the Chakroads when I had the chance.
I thought I knew this game pretty well, but this is the first time I’ve really paid attention to the backgrounds in this tunnel system. It’s pretty cool to see the locations of the game from a distance like that. Also, I remember being upset that I couldn’t go in the train tunnel system as Mario & Luigi.
@@pretendpasta4796i mean, nintendo still has the ip and especially with nintendo’s recent interests in mario rpgs they could probably do the same thing but with a different studio this time
@@dry4smash946Plus the series actually got outright acknowledged as a whole on an entire survey asking about the way they treat Mario RPGs and its characters. The fact that they still acknowledge the series to this day gives me some hope.
I always love it when games put past and future areas you have explored or have yet to explore in the background. Makes the world feel more connected and alive. It also just gives you something scenic to enjoy for a bit.
No, it's actually the opposite. The Monty Moles were actually making the tunnel as planned, until Fawful convinced them to turn it into a railroad for the Fawful Express. It was originally meant to be an escape tunnel for Bowser to use when kidnapping Peach.
Fawful may have been evil but you can't ignore the contributions me made to the Mushroom Kingdom railway system (haha). In all seriousness this pretty much completely optional area is pretty cool, you get to like see most of the world connecting in the background.
Wrong, Paper Jam was the last original Mario and Luigi game, the last published game of the series was the Bowser's inside story remake that sold poorly.
My big Mario & Luigi discovery was figuring out (in Superstar Saga (GBA)) that you could turn Luigi's HP into coins by hitting him in the crotch. Seriously, if you shrunk Mario, then had Luigi attempt to jump on him for the helicopter, and had Mario jump during that transition, Luigi would get hit, scream, lose 1 HP and you would get a coin.
I remember seeing a video of this thinking it was just a joke, then was playing again some time later and thought "What the heck, I'll give it a shot" and was laughing for a good 5 minutes when I found out it was real! (Works in the remake too)
I definitely went left from Bowser's treasure room, but I never looped the entire way around. I can distinctly remember there being rubble in the next room left of where Bowser got zapped underneath Toad Town. (Unpassable rubble, not boulders Bowser can break.) Do you have to come back later for it to open up?
This was always one of my favorite areas in the entire game. It makes the world feel so much more alive, knowing that the moles actually finished their job
I’ve owned this game since I was 3, played it countless times and I thought I knew everything about it, well now I’m pretty well into my 1000000th playthrough and I’m excited to try this myself when i reach it
Wow this is interesting I did check the tracks before but never this much and I never imagined this may have been the travel system for him before mind blown
Thats so true, I never thought about that. Just like in this game though, it ends up being a lot bigger than it needs to mostly because they originally planned Ionia’s needle to be connected to the tracks
You're right. I replayed Bowser's inside story and Bowser's inside story DX, but after leaving the area I'm never going back simply because I never use chakroads or how they are named. And yes, I'm gonna say that, the DX version is CRIMINALLY underrated
It was only on my second playthrough of this game that I discovered the room with the Partners in Time enemies... got a little anxiety seeing them again.
I first found it out with Mario and Luigi, I couldn't get past the rock that I can't break with hammer, so I went with Bowser instead, very dissapointed that there was no hidden items or something
Man this song was in so many places. Underground cave, Bowser Path, that weird tower I don't remember the name of, Railroad, Toad Town underground... I think it's the most used music track in the over world part of the Game. it's such an earworm, I could recognize it anywhere!
I can’t for sure say I found this before, but I feel like in the multiple times I went through this game I must have. It was too long ago for me to remember for sure
After countless hours of playing this game I actually legitimately never thought of this. Guess I expected them to just not even let you explore this area but no they actually thought of it. Not like there’s much to even do but it is a neat detail and secret that you actually get to explore all the way back here
Indeed i have. I think one of my favorite parts of this game though, was opening that puzzle door deep in Bowser's castle (Hit three switches in a specific order and the door opens) [Slight Spoiler Warning] It's an optional bossfight, but be prepared for a very, very tough battle. I'd recommend being near the endgame before trying this.
Oh, no, I knew about that. Probably spent more time messing around of those tracks than I should've...Did you know that if you bring up the map while on the tracks, it shows a different version of it showing each section of track?
I honestly forgot. You can actually go along the train tracks when you get to Bowser's Castle and pretty much get an overview of the entire world. Which makes the game bigger than it already is.
You lost a bet. Never underestimate a teen with nothing better to do than to wonder if the devs went the extra mile to make that train track lead somewhere. Now I'm just wondering why they didn't add the little touch of dropping off to the other areas you see.
I only found out about this area last year when I revisited Cavi Cape for stuff I hadn't collected yet, I then realized there was this door in the cave I could open and then realized the railway was fully done
A thing that most people never found cause it's sooooo late in the game. It took me several playthroughs until I found this and it was mindblowing ngl.😂
You’d be right, if you sent it 4 years ago at least… I noticed this on the remake and later checked it on the original version and that’s actually pretty cool, you’ll probably never use it in a normal play through but it’s nice regardless
HAHAHAHHAA NOPE. FASCINATINGLY, a month ago I found my DS and by a crazy coincidence I’ve come upon this video. I did, in fact, find this and as it helped me find the Ironclad shell going through the pipes along the route. I won the bet yay ^^
I alr knew about this since I poured in god knows how many hours into this game across a few years of my childhood and the various copies I traded hands with. It was pretty shocking the first time though. That the devs spent the time to put this in certainly knowing most players would never see it is, yeah Alphadream was amazing. Screw Nintendo for letting them sink.
![[TCRF] Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - Unused Enemies and Enemy Behaviours](/img/n.gif)
The fact that this track only benefits a straight path to Toad Town/Peach's (Fawful's) Castle in a game with fast travel checkpoints with nothing to collect along the way, yet goes this hard into the level of detail for the background, and let’s you go the full loop of the track without being cut off, just goes to show how much detail Alpha Dream put into the smallest details of this game.
Rest in peace, Alpha dream
Are they really not going to come back. I still am hoping for that Partners in time remake 😭
@@jaycruz1Alpha Dream as a company has been dead since early 2020 and no one really knows what happened to the devs that worked there.
Nintendo has the rights to the M&L series and can contract someone else to develop them if they want to.
@@johnhoftb Well if they do somehow revive the whole IP, I do hope whoever handles the series gives it justice
@@jaycruz1They mentioned Mario and Luigi in a survey.
For me this honestly made this game feel bigger that it actually is.
you lost the bet. I used to spend hours walking around those areas staring at the backgrounds because of my autistic fascinations.
Really you to? Same deal with me
i have 200 hours in this game and most of it was from when i was 5 to 10
yet i never beat bowser x
Same
THANK GOD. IM NOT ALONE.
Finally, someone who understands my fascination with video game worlds.
Finally, something obscure in a video game that I HAVE done!
Same
I did take a look but when I saw the new bottom screen map I went back and thought nothing of it except that it was just another way to fast travel. If I’d known there would be more pixel art about the other places, especially in a way that gave the game the illusion of a more open world perspective I would have stuck around!
Same
Same
I have aswell
Bowser be like *"autobots, roll out"*
LOL YEAH BRO! 🗿
@@gordoperodeculto2967 I bet bowser can transform into a Jeep if he was a real autobot and I can get that toy for my birthday 🥳 🎂 🎉 and/or Christmas 🤶 🎅 🎄 which will be legit.
my theory about this, when i first found it years ago on one of my playthroughs, was that this was his original ‘fast travel’ before the chakroads were added. ie; they added it in later in development, but idk
Hm, you have a point there! There are factors lining up to your theory!
That’s the only thing that makes sense, since bowser has no reason to go here once you get the roll ability, since by the time you clear the lumbar nook you’re infiltrating peach’s castle at the end of the game
@@jackhumphries1087 I think portions of the game's story were different, so Bowser could have access the railway earlier than in the game. While it is a cool idea, the Chakroad system is more streamlined.
Very late because It has graphics and its traversable, honestly im surprised I havent seen any research about the development of this game or the other Mario and Luigi tittles
@@jackhumphries1087 There are areas Bowser couldn't reach without the spike ball, with item blocks. Pretty sure there's some exclusive equipment. I try and get every collectible in rpgs.
This was one of my favorite parts of the game, honestly. There's just something about this railway that I can't get enough of, I'd purposefully go out of my way to use it instead of the Chakroads when I had the chance.
I thought I knew this game pretty well, but this is the first time I’ve really paid attention to the backgrounds in this tunnel system. It’s pretty cool to see the locations of the game from a distance like that. Also, I remember being upset that I couldn’t go in the train tunnel system as Mario & Luigi.
This game isnt dead thank god
Never will be
@@ZeroUnhope With AlphaDream gone, there will be no continuations, It will slowly die and become a cherished relic of the past like The original Mario
@@pretendpasta4796i mean, nintendo still has the ip and especially with nintendo’s recent interests in mario rpgs they could probably do the same thing but with a different studio this time
@@dry4smash946Plus the series actually got outright acknowledged as a whole on an entire survey asking about the way they treat Mario RPGs and its characters. The fact that they still acknowledge the series to this day gives me some hope.
WE WONT LET IT DIE.
I always come back to this game when I get bored.
I literally never considered checking the railway after that awful express
Yeah, this is something I didn't notice until a few playthroughs into the game
I thought the railway was blocked until after you free Bowser from the vault
I always love it when games put past and future areas you have explored or have yet to explore in the background. Makes the world feel more connected and alive. It also just gives you something scenic to enjoy for a bit.
Fawful improved the kingdom's infrastructure and made a high speed line for Bowser to kidnap Peach next time! 😂
I used to let Bowser roll on the tracks a lot when I was young.
So Monty Mole Bros changed their minds after Fawful Express fight and build the railway as planned?
No, it's actually the opposite. The Monty Moles were actually making the tunnel as planned, until Fawful convinced them to turn it into a railroad for the Fawful Express. It was originally meant to be an escape tunnel for Bowser to use when kidnapping Peach.
You forgot to pin your comment
...NOPE, THEY JUST GOT FINISHED THIS ALREADY
.........WONDERING WHY THERE WAS UNFINISHED, THO
Definitely did this at least once. Thought it was cool until I remembered you could just teleport. Nice scenic route nonetheless.
If Earth is flat, then explain this:
yea i remember doing this. It felt really cool seeing the world connected like this
I think this exists so that you can still get back underground if you leave without discovering the chalkroad.
when recently replaying the game, i found this on complete accident while searching for beans.
How does that work? You can't get here as Mario and Luigi and Bowser can't collect beans.
@@ethanhayes7038 reconnaissance mission
@@ethanhayes7038i think u can if you get out of Bowser corpse
Fawful may have been evil but you can't ignore the contributions me made to the Mushroom Kingdom railway system (haha).
In all seriousness this pretty much completely optional area is pretty cool, you get to like see most of the world connecting in the background.
That almost sounds like a quote about Mouselini:
"He may have been a monstrous tyrant, but atleast the trains ran on time."
...People really didn't know about this?
To be perfectly honest i literally didn't have a reason to go back to the treasure room.
Nah man after the hell that was the Fawful Express child me never wanted to see that area again
@@madduxnagel6935yeah everytime i would blow into teh ds mic it would never work im thankful they changed how you breath fire in the remake
Yo no xd
Wow bowser must be fast af to travel all the way back around to the start or treasure room which is insane ngl
I remember finding this and thinking it was pretty cool.
I was so surprised when I found this the first time
i have, actually, i remember being surprised by the fact that you can actually take the entire railway path in a circle
I guess Bowser's Inside Story truly IS the last Mario & Luigi game. R.I.P Alpha Dream, thanks for all the wonderful memories.
Maybe not with the survey that came out looks at Nin10do lands video
Wrong, Paper Jam was the last original Mario and Luigi game, the last published game of the series was the Bowser's inside story remake that sold poorly.
I wanted more, i want a M&L game for the Switch.
My big Mario & Luigi discovery was figuring out (in Superstar Saga (GBA)) that you could turn Luigi's HP into coins by hitting him in the crotch.
Seriously, if you shrunk Mario, then had Luigi attempt to jump on him for the helicopter, and had Mario jump during that transition, Luigi would get hit, scream, lose 1 HP and you would get a coin.
Actually blood money
I remember seeing a video of this thinking it was just a joke, then was playing again some time later and thought "What the heck, I'll give it a shot" and was laughing for a good 5 minutes when I found out it was real! (Works in the remake too)
It’s taken me this long to find out that this is probably how fawful got to each castle so quickly
You gotta love when developers are through with their consistenvy
Monty Bros were originally meant to built tunnel for Bowser when kidnapping Peach as he planned (except Fawful Express and Vault route)
I definitely went left from Bowser's treasure room, but I never looped the entire way around.
I can distinctly remember there being rubble in the next room left of where Bowser got zapped underneath Toad Town. (Unpassable rubble, not boulders Bowser can break.)
Do you have to come back later for it to open up?
That part collapsed, but got repaired after getting all star serum parts when Bowser learns to roll
Ive know this game for years and I had no idea this existed. My mind is blown from the attention to detail.
Are you telling me that I could’ve done this 14 years ago and I didn’t!? Dude, I’ve just discovered this!!!
This was always one of my favorite areas in the entire game. It makes the world feel so much more alive, knowing that the moles actually finished their job
I’ve owned this game since I was 3, played it countless times and I thought I knew everything about it, well now I’m pretty well into my 1000000th playthrough and I’m excited to try this myself when i reach it
It was the second thing I did after beating the final boss.
First thing was collecting all the beans I missed
Wow this is interesting I did check the tracks before but never this much and I never imagined this may have been the travel system for him before mind blown
The double take to get that last boulder lol
This gives me mother 3 vibes. The pork bean tunnels and the railroad from Tazmily Village to Murasaki Forest that you have to walk along.
Thats so true, I never thought about that. Just like in this game though, it ends up being a lot bigger than it needs to mostly because they originally planned Ionia’s needle to be connected to the tracks
You underestimate how much free time I had in this game while I was busy not being able to button mash as a kid
You're right. I replayed Bowser's inside story and Bowser's inside story DX, but after leaving the area I'm never going back simply because I never use chakroads or how they are named. And yes, I'm gonna say that, the DX version is CRIMINALLY underrated
I remember Iearned of this around my 4th playthrough. Felt so surprised, but pleasantly so
I used this so many times during my first playthrough!
I loved just traveling down the tracks. Fun time it was.
What is weird Here? It's just a shortcut. I already knew it. It even has his own map.
Me who had nothing better to do on school sick days
No, because I never got to this point. Blame the DAMN CARROT MINIGAME for that.
I understand you SO much
Bowser is a train
It was only on my second playthrough of this game that I discovered the room with the Partners in Time enemies... got a little anxiety seeing them again.
It’s been a while since I played BIS so I dunno if I did do this, but I feel like i might’ve, I dunno.
i actually love doing this, it’s one of my favorite secret things in the game!
I first found it out with Mario and Luigi, I couldn't get past the rock that I can't break with hammer, so I went with Bowser instead, very dissapointed that there was no hidden items or something
Man this song was in so many places. Underground cave, Bowser Path, that weird tower I don't remember the name of, Railroad, Toad Town underground... I think it's the most used music track in the over world part of the Game. it's such an earworm, I could recognize it anywhere!
I can’t for sure say I found this before, but I feel like in the multiple times I went through this game I must have. It was too long ago for me to remember for sure
i actually replayed this game about a month ago and discovered this for the first time. i was so baffled that id never come across it before
I think I’ve checked out part of this before, but there was no loot. So me being the loot goblin I am, left out of boredom.
You lost the bet, i was a child with alot of time and did this every playthrough
Well I lost the bet, I thought I knew this game enough but apparently I was wrong.
I loved this part
I would just prefer walking than teleportation so this was really good.
I’ve been though that endless loop more times than I can count. This is normal for me.
Ha! You’re wrong!
I’ve spend way too much time just watching Bowser roll around the whole track🤣🤣🤣
I went through this once and then never again.
I always traveled those tunnels. It is amazing that you could see what that tunnel was used for when you drilled it.
I actually did try this already. It's pretty awesome that ya got to see a couple of the other worlds in the distance
I never backtracked, so no I didn't even know this existed.
After countless hours of playing this game I actually legitimately never thought of this. Guess I expected them to just not even let you explore this area but no they actually thought of it. Not like there’s much to even do but it is a neat detail and secret that you actually get to explore all the way back here
The best mario RPG 🗿🚬
I think it would have been incredibly funny if you did all that, stood between the orbs again, and then got knocked out, AGAIN
Indeed i have. I think one of my favorite parts of this game though, was opening that puzzle door deep in Bowser's castle (Hit three switches in a specific order and the door opens)
[Slight Spoiler Warning]
It's an optional bossfight, but be prepared for a very, very tough battle. I'd recommend being near the endgame before trying this.
Oh, no, I knew about that. Probably spent more time messing around of those tracks than I should've...Did you know that if you bring up the map while on the tracks, it shows a different version of it showing each section of track?
I..genuinely never knew this. I wish I did back then
I remember doing this when I got bored. I believe the map also changes at the bottom screen too
I honestly forgot. You can actually go along the train tracks when you get to Bowser's Castle and pretty much get an overview of the entire world. Which makes the game bigger than it already is.
Is it just me or does this music sound like it should be in Pokémon mystery dungeon Red and Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Sky
Nope, I've done this a lot. Too many times in the OG game, and the first thing I tried to do after I regained control of Bowser in Blubble Lake.
What are you talking about if I discovered that, I like to investigate games like this
You lost a bet. Never underestimate a teen with nothing better to do than to wonder if the devs went the extra mile to make that train track lead somewhere.
Now I'm just wondering why they didn't add the little touch of dropping off to the other areas you see.
I remember doing this because I forgot about fast travel
This will now be a magnet for people that have done this.(Me included)
I tried to go down the railroad after the bridge was our.
...You know what's odd? I didn't know you could step on the g9ld and stuff in bowsers treasure room.
I actually did do this in the 3DS version.
I only found out about this area last year when I revisited Cavi Cape for stuff I hadn't collected yet, I then realized there was this door in the cave I could open and then realized the railway was fully done
A thing that most people never found cause it's sooooo late in the game. It took me several playthroughs until I found this and it was mindblowing ngl.😂
You’d be right, if you sent it 4 years ago at least…
I noticed this on the remake and later checked it on the original version and that’s actually pretty cool, you’ll probably never use it in a normal play through but it’s nice regardless
You are 1000% correct!!! That's one part of the game I never saw or checked when playing.
HAHAHAHHAA NOPE. FASCINATINGLY, a month ago I found my DS and by a crazy coincidence I’ve come upon this video. I did, in fact, find this and as it helped me find the Ironclad shell going through the pipes along the route. I won the bet yay ^^
Didn't know it went around the whole map, that's pretty cool
I've done this 100%. The convenience of it could not be turned down.
I absolutely did and now I miss this game
I did this once but eventually forgot this was a thing.
You lost the bet; I know this game like the back of my hand
Now i gotta check if this is in the 3ds version
0:57 that was very human of you
How did they give Bowser such fluid animations in this game
Love in detail this game has it
Sprites
you're right i never checked this because i never played this game
I'm shocked I never got this curious when I was younger, and mind you when I have 66 hours on this game and my 9 yo self was curious about everything
I alr knew about this since I poured in god knows how many hours into this game across a few years of my childhood and the various copies I traded hands with.
It was pretty shocking the first time though. That the devs spent the time to put this in certainly knowing most players would never see it is, yeah Alphadream was amazing.
Screw Nintendo for letting them sink.
Nah I checked that area lmaooo it was weird seeing it tho becuz I only checked it on my recent replay, back then I didn’t check it tho
I'm sorry but *_what_* have I supposedly never checked???