What a very respectful man Scott Cooper is towards William Friedkin. Excellent conversation and analysis of the film and subject. Rest In Peace, Mr. Friedkin. Not forgotten
Michael Pecikonis I agree with you about the documentaries being better, not just 'Whitey', but there's several good hour long ones on youtube as well. I really think this movie could have been fleshed out more, more detail. I honestly love 3 hour movies and I think that would have helped Black Mass. Don't feel like we really got to know Depp's character.
+Snrub I was talking about The Iceman docs. I'm hoping Black Mass is better than then friggin Iceman movie because I'm really looking forward to it. I haven't seen it yet and I'm extremely excited to see it. Can't wait to see Depp finnaly play the role he was made for. Been awhile. And Edgerton underrated in everything. I heard he'd amazing too. Did you like it more than the departed? I know they're not the same movie, and I know it was the American version of infernal affairs, but it's the most recent movie to compare it to gangster wise. And Nicholsons ridiculously over the top, overrated performance was loosely based on whitey. I'm not a big fan of the departed and think felt completley forced and mailed in. However I respect the fact something people liked it. What's your opinion. What's the better movie?
very good video vice you picked the right guy for the interview. usually i cant even figure out what the pretentious hosts are even rambling about but this was totally fascinating.
it's great to see how relaxed Cooper speaks with the legend that Friedkin is. In his place I would be fucking shaking and speaking nonsense at times. Great interview Vice, make more of this good content come
+vegeta solo He was awesome up until about 10 years ago, since then almost all his movies have been garbage. Compare him to someone like Leonardo Dicaprio who is never in a bad movie. Leo is the man.
This has definitely been one of my most anticipated movies this year. This looks like Johnny Depp's comeback movie. Reminds me almost like his gritty Public Enemy movie. Can't wait.
+RiseTigerGaming its ok man when the ending came I couldnt believe they were ending the movie like that it was just so quick and felt like they wanted the movie to be rushed instead of taking there time but the acting was great
John Connolly was released in 2021 and is now 84. From his wiki; "He returned to Massachusetts, but will remain under supervision until 2047. Connolly retained and continues to receive pension benefits from his service as a Federal agent."
Friedkin is dead on when he describes the somewhat unsettling similarities between cops and criminals. My grandpa was actually a cop in the NYPD that worked narcotics from the mid 60's well into the 70's. He was friends with Eddie Egan and Sonny Grosso and was on the team that helped with the production of the French Connection. Back then working plain clothes narcotics meant that after morning role call you were out the door and almost on your own. You had your partner, an iron with 12-18 spare .38 rounds, a black jack in your front pocket, and a shotgun under the seat. That's it. No portable radios so the only way to get help was the car radio or a police call box. If they weren't handy you could be fucked. To offset that disadvantage cops had to cultivate an aggressive street presence. That scene when Gene Hackman and Roy Scheider shake down that bar, that's not bullshit. Two white cops could really put themselves into those types of situations if their reputation allowed it. If criminals recognized you as an apex predator on the street, they would act accordingly. You had to be highly motivated and extremely aggressive.to stay alive in that environment.
The old guy's r starting to disappear, we lost Romero,craven, Hooper. I hope we have a good group of directors lining up to take over. Jordan Peele, panos camonos etc... Please take the reigns and continue to make great movie's.
The Departed wasn't about Whitey.. Look it up.. It's a remake of a Japanese movie.. The Departed was very loosely based on Bulger.. This movie is the real deal/.
Growing up in Boston Whitey had a lot of influence in the neighborhood. Heck even my whole childhood. Whitey showed my aunt how to tell if you are getting wiretapped. I wish they never found him. After he left Boston turned to heroin.
+goestplus Sometimes a gangster is needed. Whether he's good in your eyes morally isn't the point. Sometimes it keeps the city in check from drugs, young punks with guns, and disorder. Sometimes the cops are the bad gangsters and you need a "good" one to keep the city in check.
+goestplus No I wouldn't. And I never said I was talking about Whitey specifically. I was talking in generalities. And I'm right. You think if the mob was what is used to be your have all this gang violence. Absolutely not. They wouldn't allow it and it would save many many innocent lives considering gang violence is used against mostly innocent people while if the mob got came to see you, you probably deserved it or put yourself in a bad position. This is true all over the world. Sometimes evil has to be left alone so more people don't suffer. Like Sadam. Kept the terrorists in check. Now he was a piece of shit bit the dumbest thing we could ever do was take him out. Now it's filled another terrorists and we and the world are in more danger and the people who love there are still being killed. Sometimes you have to see the future and pick the lesser of two evils. Because getting rid of one giant bug can cause an entire infestation of uncontrollable roaches.
+NegatsuSan That pushin it a bit. Dude's talking about his movie to another great director. I've seen "promotional canned ham" and this ain't it. Cheers Vice.
+matthew bailey The Departed uses parts of the Whitey Bulger story of him flipping law enforcement agents, being a protected informant etc. But it's mostly a remake of the Hong Kong movie Infernal Affairs.
+american pitbull channel Did you like Black Mass more than the departed? Because I'm really looking forward to Black Mass and I think the Departed is terribly overrated.
Joel Edgerton was the only thing out of place in black mass. They should have gotten a real Massachusetts guy. You can tell his whole "swagger" act was so phony. And why does his body look so weird anyway?
Scott Cooper is an awful director and writer. All of movies are filled with paper thin characters and riddled with cliches. Black Mass had zero energy and passion behind it. Why does this guy get work and how does he attract so many amazing actors?!?!
What a very respectful man Scott Cooper is towards William Friedkin. Excellent conversation and analysis of the film and subject. Rest In Peace, Mr. Friedkin. Not forgotten
Friedkin has a unique talent: whatever he has to say, you just can't stop listening to him - at least, I can't.
***** Yeah, thanX for the 20 bucks, by the way.
Sorry where are you from??
I very very like friedkin
The legendary filmmaker on the upcoming film about the life of James "Whitey" Bulger, one of the most infamous gangsters in US history.
I have not been this pumped for a movie in a long time. Love fall movie season, no bullshit blockbuster special effects, just good stories.
+Snrub Too bad it sucked. Depp was great, though. Worth it for his performance alone.
+PrettysureItsInfectd Agreed. The documentary blows it away and it's a shame they screwed the move up. Especially with a talent like Michael Shannon.
Michael Pecikonis I agree with you about the documentaries being better, not just 'Whitey', but there's several good hour long ones on youtube as well. I really think this movie could have been fleshed out more, more detail. I honestly love 3 hour movies and I think that would have helped Black Mass. Don't feel like we really got to know Depp's character.
+Snrub I was talking about The Iceman docs. I'm hoping Black Mass is better than then friggin Iceman movie because I'm really looking forward to it. I haven't seen it yet and I'm extremely excited to see it. Can't wait to see Depp finnaly play the role he was made for. Been awhile. And Edgerton underrated in everything. I heard he'd amazing too. Did you like it more than the departed? I know they're not the same movie, and I know it was the American version of infernal affairs, but it's the most recent movie to compare it to gangster wise. And Nicholsons ridiculously over the top, overrated performance was loosely based on whitey. I'm not a big fan of the departed and think felt completley forced and mailed in. However I respect the fact something people liked it. What's your opinion. What's the better movie?
+Snrub So? Which do you think is the better movie?
very good video vice you picked the right guy for the interview. usually i cant even figure out what the pretentious hosts are even rambling about but this was totally fascinating.
+jfroobo I CONCUR!!
+jfroobo that pretentious host made the french connection what the fuck have you ever done beside make stupid comments on the internet
+liam rafferty i think you just made an arse of yourself here liam
+liam rafferty, wow, curb your rage brah. You completely miss interpreted the OP's post.
+liam rafferty think you should read +jfroobo post again :)
Fantastic interview. Whoever conceived of the idea to have Friedkin doing the interview deserves a chuffty badge.
it's great to see how relaxed Cooper speaks with the legend that Friedkin is. In his place I would be fucking shaking and speaking nonsense at times. Great interview Vice, make more of this good content come
A Black Mass television series would have been epic
Johnny Depp is awesome
+vegeta solo He was awesome up until about 10 years ago, since then almost all his movies have been garbage. Compare him to someone like Leonardo Dicaprio who is never in a bad movie. Leo is the man.
+J Briggs Being in some bad movies doesn't stop Depp from being awesome.
+J Briggs truth
+koshcon this isn't the place for that.
Friedkin should host a film podcast (when he's off from making movies, of course)
This has definitely been one of my most anticipated movies this year. This looks like Johnny Depp's comeback movie. Reminds me almost like his gritty Public Enemy movie. Can't wait.
Fantastic interview, Vice.
Great Interview!
Great interview...very much looking forward to watching this humble young mans directing.
Friedkin loves film and would love to be involved in this type of film.
Just saw Black Mass and can't wait to watch it agin .
"It's a recipe"
"Noo,no you said to me it's a family secret"
This movie looks badass
+RiseTigerGaming Hi hope you are right so far the reviews coming out say it's just bad.
*****
dang i was looking forward to this
+RiseTigerGaming its ok man when the ending came I couldnt believe they were ending the movie like that it was just so quick and felt like they wanted the movie to be rushed instead of taking there time but the acting was great
maingangsta Oh ok im gonna go see it later today then :P
+maingangsta I felt the same way about the ending.
Jonny Depp is an awesome character actor.
Can't wait to see this.
Great interview
William has such an amazing radio announcer voice :D
Cant wait to watch it.
Can't wait to see this movie.
Why isn't this a 10 hour Netflix/HBO miniseries?
Great piece
Good job Vice, you have 1 good interview.
Reminds me of the Johnny from "Blow" or "Goodfellas/Donnie Brasco!" Gonna be a hell of a movie..
i cant wait for this to come out ! especially as a Boston native ... jonny depp is like a shapeshifter ...hes the best actor of our time hands down !
William Friedkin Approves. I must see this movie now.
10:09 - wow, what words of wisdom.
3:41 all true words
William friedkin , David Cronenberg and Werner Herzog our greatest living directors.
was it just me or did everyone get an ad for the movie before watching?
They better have shown the start of it all from the 60's. Especially who were originally running southie
+Pen1980IM Howie Winter and the Winter Hill gang from Somerville. Before Winter went to the can.
+Pen1980IM The public will not watch a 12 hour movie.
John Connolly was released in 2021 and is now 84. From his wiki; "He returned to Massachusetts, but will remain under supervision until 2047. Connolly retained and continues to receive pension benefits from his service as a Federal agent."
I fuckin adore William Friedkin
Before I watch this interview, can anyone let me know if there are any spoilers?
Friedkin is dead on when he describes the somewhat unsettling similarities between cops and criminals. My grandpa was actually a cop in the NYPD that worked narcotics from the mid 60's well into the 70's. He was friends with Eddie Egan and Sonny Grosso and was on the team that helped with the production of the French Connection. Back then working plain clothes narcotics meant that after morning role call you were out the door and almost on your own. You had your partner, an iron with 12-18 spare .38 rounds, a black jack in your front pocket, and a shotgun under the seat. That's it. No portable radios so the only way to get help was the car radio or a police call box. If they weren't handy you could be fucked. To offset that disadvantage cops had to cultivate an aggressive street presence. That scene when Gene Hackman and Roy Scheider shake down that bar, that's not bullshit. Two white cops could really put themselves into those types of situations if their reputation allowed it. If criminals recognized you as an apex predator on the street, they would act accordingly. You had to be highly motivated and extremely aggressive.to stay alive in that environment.
The old guy's r starting to disappear, we lost Romero,craven, Hooper. I hope we have a good group of directors lining up to take over. Jordan Peele, panos camonos etc... Please take the reigns and continue to make great movie's.
Where does this guy get off making a Whitey movie after Scorsese???
It's got an 8.8 thus far on IMDB so that looks pretty promising.
The Departed wasn't about Whitey.. Look it up.. It's a remake of a Japanese movie.. The Departed was very loosely based on Bulger.. This movie is the real deal/.
Which scorses movie are you speaking of?
+jim fred The Departed
+Loomis Show Chinese movie....
Keety Mang you are correct my man/.
good movie
Johnny Depp AND Eggs Benedict Cumberbrunch?!?
Beneficial Cucumberpatch
Growing up in Boston Whitey had a lot of influence in the neighborhood.
Heck even my whole childhood.
Whitey showed my aunt how to tell if you are getting wiretapped.
I wish they never found him.
After he left Boston turned to heroin.
Romanticizing violence is ridiculous. Boston has always had drug problems. There is no such thing as a good gangster.
+goestplus Sometimes a gangster is needed. Whether he's good in your eyes morally isn't the point. Sometimes it keeps the city in check from drugs, young punks with guns, and disorder. Sometimes the cops are the bad gangsters and you need a "good" one to keep the city in check.
Michael Pecikonis I'm wondering if you'd also say that to the families of people Whitey Bulger murdered?
+goestplus No I wouldn't. And I never said I was talking about Whitey specifically. I was talking in generalities. And I'm right. You think if the mob was what is used to be your have all this gang violence. Absolutely not. They wouldn't allow it and it would save many many innocent lives considering gang violence is used against mostly innocent people while if the mob got came to see you, you probably deserved it or put yourself in a bad position. This is true all over the world. Sometimes evil has to be left alone so more people don't suffer. Like Sadam. Kept the terrorists in check. Now he was a piece of shit bit the dumbest thing we could ever do was take him out. Now it's filled another terrorists and we and the world are in more danger and the people who love there are still being killed. Sometimes you have to see the future and pick the lesser of two evils. Because getting rid of one giant bug can cause an entire infestation of uncontrollable roaches.
go back to the rock you crawled out from under.
Maestro Friedkin
Good interview, but the interviewer was talking a lot more then the interviewee.
Today is the 19th! Yeah! Soon I'll watch this one, got to! :)
legendary? you need to take that one back, this movie was kinda boring , except for Johnny Depp, he carried the whole thing on his back
Read the book then saw the movie five years or so later when it came out. Movie was good. Book was too.
Jonny Depp is sincere and honest? , I guess its normal to start a conversation with "do you wanna see my scarf collection"
The both seem so lovely
Why does Friedkin remind me of Trump when he talks?
Holy shit he sounds just like the batshit insane crazy liar. I never realized it. Mannerisms too.
The screenwriters never get the credit they deserve.
nice
at 15:00 does the director call the host an alien believer?
Promotional canned ham but interesting.
+NegatsuSan Mugwamp Jism!!
+NegatsuSan That pushin it a bit. Dude's talking about his movie to another great director. I've seen "promotional canned ham" and this ain't it. Cheers Vice.
The Mikhael akino story
Go watch the Whitey Bulger doc on Netflix, you'll see first hand how his story is very crazy.
Wasn't a film made about this a few years ago with Matt Damon?
+matthew bailey The Departed uses parts of the Whitey Bulger story of him flipping law enforcement agents, being a protected informant etc. But it's mostly a remake of the Hong Kong movie Infernal Affairs.
yeah but you can't compare. to this film. that movie was more about cell phones. than crime.
+american pitbull channel Did you like Black Mass more than the departed? Because I'm really looking forward to Black Mass and I think the Departed is terribly overrated.
+Davos Seacreature yes i liked black mass more. just wanted more from black mass.
Infernal Affairs is better tha both the movies. The Departed is a real stinker
90059??????
wtf i thought it said black mesa
Why isn't Kevin Weeks still in jail. He participated in several murders
He made a deal when he led investigators to the dead bodies. He got 5 years only/.
+Loomis Show I guess my point is that it was a BS deal.
+Loomis Show Kevin Squeaks
Yeah people call him Kevin 2 Weeks cause it only took him 2 weeks to talk.. I wouldn't say that to his face though.. haha/.
+Loomis Show Well when you find out your own boss was an FBI informant that kind of changes things I guess...
I would stop too Scott
i like the departed
Joel Edgerton was the only thing out of place in black mass. They should have gotten a real Massachusetts guy. You can tell his whole "swagger" act was so phony. And why does his body look so weird anyway?
some reason i was thinking of dark matter
once you learn about this shit really works, all these films are just straight make believe......fuckit, entertainment i guess
Wow 258 views? I'm early as FUCK.
Does anyone else thinks he sounds like Donald trump??
Scott Cooper is an awful director and writer. All of movies are filled with paper thin characters and riddled with cliches. Black Mass had zero energy and passion behind it. Why does this guy get work and how does he attract so many amazing actors?!?!
This guy talks like a white obama.
snitch..
Cheesy. Cliche.
I listened to he and Marc Marron on WTF podcast and he is a bit of a pretentious pick me girl
The glorification of a pedophile serial killer is disgusting.