It feels like you guys equate being outside to being great. Drake has been outside so much his music has suffered. He has not progressed as an artist. He's just grown more into a pop star. You essentially want Dot to be a popstar and he refuses to be that. becz the industry is full of weirdos. Let that man put out great work and leave. He fed the streets quality and consistency
Than when we check their intellect were elitist. No. I don't like microwave food nor so I like microwave music . Kendrick is a Michelin star restaurant, drakes fast food. Quality over quantity..
@@smcchermon2047exactly you would never say McDonald’s makes better food than gordan ramsey restaurants. You can say more accessible but definitely not greater and when it comes to rap Drake barely makes rap musics most of his discography is a mixture of rap pop rnb afrobeats and dance music
This is not an Eastcoast vs Westcoast thing, it's all about Canada vs American . The Westcoast folks are not that chummy with the Westcoast side of Canada!😌😌
Y’all really say anything: Kendrick drops consistently. Overly Dedicated 2010 Section.80 2011 g.o.o.d kid mad city 2012 To Pimp a Butterfly 2015 Untitled Unmastered 2016 Damn.2017 Black Panther soundtrack 2018 Mr Morale and the Big Steppers 2022. Please stop regurgitating narratives and verify your facts.
The message seems to be that Kendrick's consistent style is appreciated by his diehard fans, but it may not resonate as well with a broader audience. As someone who has been a fan since the early days, Since the section80 . However, it's important to recognize that artists evolve and experiment with different styles. In contrast, Drake's frequent releases may not always be well-received, but they do keep him in the public eye and contribute to his overall popularity.
@@bharp375 Except that was not what they were saying and that is not the narrative that is being pushed regarding consistency with the amount of music he releases. That’s why you see another post stating the exact same thing
The Mr. Morale tour was the Highest grossing rap tour of all time BEFORE this beef. What are we even talking about. How are you guys debating if he would sell out a tour???
They are correct I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
Kendrick is Kendrick because he doesn’t drop every year, drakes whole style now is to hop on any trend to stay relevant, are the features he hops on to show love or to take sounds ? Kendrick isn’t the type to do that because he is AUTHENTIC, can Drake take breaks like dot and still be relevant ?
He solidified himself as the king after releasing TPAB in 2015. Nobody was touching his level of consistent quality and domination of hip hop. I'm not talking about sales, I'm talking about discography and impact
There is a difference between putting someone on and whatever Drake does. Not many people who have worked with Drake have a career worth mentioning now.
How they define the king of hip-hop is so weird; I've never seen discussions on it be handled like this. The king of hip-hop primarily has to do with one's qualities as an MC, not who you feature, how much music you put out and how popular you are. If that is how people will argue for the position of the 'king of hip-hop', then Drake is the ultimate king of hip-hop, and no one can compete against him. Mcs like Nas would have never been in such an argument. With this logic, I'll also go as far as to say that guys like Future and Travis Scott are closer to being the kings of hip-hop than Kendrick. This logic is so weird and flawed
Professor Skye made a great point. Kendrick is first and foremost a champion of hip-hop in a literary sense. The culture has put its faith in him to do battle against vultures and colonisers and weirdos and anyone else who is a threat to hip-hop. That performance was him singing with his city about slaying the dragon.
@@pretty_wingz In this classic literary context, Dragons are despicable, loathsome creatures. They destroy civilisations and hoard the wealth they steal. Drake the Drake is a destructive presence. Nothing badass or powerful about it. Just destructive and greedy.
You guys missed the whole damn point. And that point is, he and Drake move differently, and Kendrick said it best. "Only you like being famous". Also, Drake is Rap/Pop, not hip-hop. Hmmm... 'Next Drake'?
Kendrick does features all the time. Kendrick does festivals all the time. Kendrick puts younger rappers on all the time He just doesn't Yap about it on Twitter
The problem is that Drake has not, nor has he ever been hip-hop. Drake is an entertainer who does not come from the culture of hip-hop and that is fine. Where he comes from is OK. It just is not hip-hop culture. You don’t have to be, the US to be hip-hop, but you do have to grow up in a certain lifestyle and Drake simply did not grow up in the culture of hip-hop. He is pop music. The fact that it even got to the point that people were lying and saying that this man who is clearly cosplaying the negative aspects of what he believes to be black culture, had anyone cosigning him as hip-hop is what is sad. The industry wanted Drake to be the face hip-hop because while they like some hip-hop, they don’t want to hear the type of truth about the culture Kendrick speaks about. They pushed that false narrative with Drake about the culture. The problem is that the industry kept pushing artist on us like Drake so they can hijack the culture . The culture already knew that Kendrick is the king of hip-hop and has been for several years. The industry just had to get out the way with their smoking mirrors propping up Drake..
He dissed Dre he brought drake to Compton and let him sneak diss kdot he lets wack100 say anything about nip when nips is ur boy and u ain’t check him..Game been corny and that’s why the California don’t fuck with him no more also scammed his fans during the pandemic
12:45 Last year Kendrick broke Drake’s record of highest $$ rap tour - and that concert is on Amazon Prime. He’s already broke Drake’s concert record. I think Kendrick has been doing this for many years and just flew under a lot of folks radar as he doesn’t do the social media trolling and posting. And doesn’t have the “industry” media machine pushing his numbers. Plus all this “King of Hip Hop” is different than what Drake does for Hip Hop music. I.e. Hip Hop culture vs music industry / corporate definition of the Hip Hop sphere.
@@mariahsel6248 Yes. It really is just PR spin and how “in your face” Drake and his music is pushed where the narratives get twisted around where folks forget all the real facts. It’s intentional by the industry - and it works.
Kendrick took a 4 year hiatus because of COVID ( Mr Morale was supposed to drop in 2020). And all of a sudden, y'all say he don't know how to be consistent or do features. Stop listening to what Drake told y'all. He dropped in 2010/11/12 each year with OD, Section 80 and GKMC. The last 2 are Gold and Platinum then 2 years of touring and features ( whose Collard Greens for example) Then he Dropped in: 2015 TPAB 2016 Untitled Unmastered (mixtape) 2017 DAMN 2018 Black Panther Sound track album Doing number 1 each year ( with little to no promotion) and the 3 albums are platinum. The hiatus from 2019-2021 then he is on Baby Keem album then he drop his own Mr Morale ( also platinum), before doing his biggest tour ever and 2 biggest tour in hip hop history And now he dropped 3 of the biggest song of the year ( Like That, Euphoria, Not Like Us) He was already a superstar especially since DAMN
I must be out of touch cause I thought it was consensus that Kendrick's been the king of hiphop for the past decade. Drake has been the most dominant artist, yes, but never the voice. I guess the time leading up to Mr. Morale allowed Cole and Drake to change the narrative, which is fair. I mean the album was partly about the weight of the crown, lol. I guess this is part of why people counted him out during the beef. Actually, people thinking someone like Drake could be considered the king of hiphop is Kendrick's whole point.
Kendrick has been number 1 for a while. Drake is a Pop star, not a hip hop star. There is no comparison. We just saw what happens when a Pop star attacks a hip hop artist. Kendrick is the culture.. it's not about an album run.
Not true. I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
Not true. I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
Ninjas want Kendrick to be the new Drake😂 Drake got beheaded for a reason. Kendrick is king of hip-hop and he will rule as he pleases. You guys want him to suck other artists energy to stay on top. NO! Drake wasn't doing all those things out of love. He did them to stay on top for as long as possible.
I think ppl are over complicating…. This is similar to jay and Nas after their beef JayZ went back to making hits and Nas went bck to being Nas…. This beef is not for kdot to start moving like Drake or replace him lol this was about respect/ Hate and proving tht he is a better rapper not pop star or celebrity. Kdot said tht he doesn’t care abt being famous. But I do think he will be more active bc he’s not under TDE anymore which is why I think this beef happened when it did… no one is holding him bck from dropping bc if you notice Sza doesn’t drop as much either.
I think the King of hip-hop fits Kendrick perfectly and he doesn't have to put out an album every year. Quality over quantity. Kendrick's albums are very critically acclaimed and I think that's very telling. He has so many songs for the culture that are impactful. Drake started off great with the albums he used to put out but now it's more like Drake is just releasing as much music as he can to fulfill whatever contract he has going on (his recent albums have not been hitting hard). If you all are going to determine the King of hip-hop based on how many songs/albums they have put out instead of how much quality, impactful, or creative work they have, then that’s interesting.
Y'all want kendrick to drop for u to talk and make videos consistently here, outside nobody cares . Kdot been here so long, people still hearing his old shit man.. he is up there near to Eminem .. kendrick is kendrick, don't align him with drake
Drake is divisive and in the void we would get more artists without him. Less artists being forced into that mold. We don't need Kendrick to be around. We just need more music. More artists. More voices and perspectives. It does not need to be Drake music or Kendrick music. Just music. It's weird seeing the music industry unable to see that
@@paquinraino8180she is literally saying what you said dummy, it’s bigger than 1 artist, these guys been acting like drake is rap, there’s other artist making better music.
@@jadencandelario7880 yes, this!!! CAP acts like if Drake is down and Kendrick makes an album every other year, all of music is lost! It's weird! We'll just get a greater variety of music. I'm excited
@@paquinraino8180 That is literally the problem and it speaks to what the poster is saying. The industry refuses to push multiple artists and the artists who do get pushed are typically forced into an image. Hence being the aforementioned artists who you just named are “underground”. That’s really not new since Talib Kweli stated in one his songs. The industry wants branding behind a few artists that they find palpable instead of letting the artist create and we appreciate diversity in genres of music
A rapper who has a history of not writing his own songs, steals everyone else’s flows/swag, loses a rap beef in emphatic fashion to his competitor, makes a ton of pop songs, ect ect. Embarrassing to say Drake is better all time than Kendrick.
Drake isn't hip hop, he's POP! He has described himself as this. Hip Hop was born out of the civil rights movement and struggles of black folks. Drake can not only not identify with this, he's never shown any interest in speaking on black & brown issues. As Pusha T said, "You are silent on all black issues, you don't speak on nothing about black people." He is an absolute "culture vulture!" 🤷🏾♀️I'm so glad Kendrick exposed him in such a raw, and direct way👏🏾👏🏾
That’s amazing you are so fulfilled and able to sleep better at night due to his dethroning. Some of y’all really don’t have jobs. Just listen to the music and move on. Y’all are really sick in the head lmao. I bet you didn’t even go to the concert. I was there. Y’all some fake fans.
@@Beautifulleo26 That’s amazing you are so fulfilled and able to sleep better at night due to his dethroning. Some of y’all really don’t have jobs. Just listen to the music and move on. Y’all are really sick in the head lmao. I bet you didn’t even go to the concert. I was there. Y’all some fake fans.
@@pretty_wingz 🤡🤡You must be a fan of Aubrey’s. What? You’re afraid to step to the guys so you respond to the lady in the chat like a typical Stan of the entertainer Aubrey who made you feel good about being a weirdo. Go away 🤡
DJ Hed spoke on his podcast that Kendrick hand picked everyone that performed at The Pop Out. Reminder, The Game had to pay $7.1 million in damages to a reality dating show contestant after a jury in 2016 found him liable for sexual assault! Of course Kendrick didn't want him on stage🤷🏾♀️
Hits and sales are irrelevant facts when it comes to who’s the king in hip hop. If we were going by the numbers then Flo Rida would be considered better than Biggie, 2pac, OutKast, etc.
Sorry, humans need to grow up. When Dot drops, we gonna buy. Just bc Drake over saturated the field with music don't mean everyone else gotta. Do any one march to their own drum anymore?
Kendrick doesn’t move like drake it will never happen. Kendrick doesn’t play corporate games like drake. Yall don’t know what comes with a Drake feature. These artists gets screwed on the business side. SMH
Kendrick had to get Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers out of the way so that he could let loose and have fun. I think were gonna see another album like DAMN where it has a lot of mainstream appeal. I hope he puts a big west coast vibe on it myself as well. And Kendrick most definitely has the capability of doing a big tour no doubt!
I think a king can go away and come back anytime, but when a king comes back, people pay attention and want to hear from you. That's Kendrick! Drake can work consistently because he has a ghost writing sweat shop. It's easy to stay on top of music consistently if you don't come up with all of your bars and have a library of reference tracks. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂💯
I agree that Kendrick not gonna be outside much longer but who knows all I know is Drake has benefited a lot from Kendrick’s absence. But in terms of king of hip hop when it comes to discography talent and bars it’s been Kendrick since 2012
Michael Jackson (King of Pop) did he release an album ever year? Prince & Janet had “ERAs” - The Artists Kendrick reveres would never release a watered-down, forgettable product to appease the masses. Drake’s last 2-3 projects have been trashed by critics and listeners (Scary Hours was made for a reason). You think Kendrick releases a project and then a few weeks later re-releases it to add more songs to respond to YT Reactors and Podcasters? 😂 Mr. Morale was released literally 2 yrs ago, had 5 visuals, and a Worldwide Tour for over a year. His most recent show before the Pop Out was in Mexico City THIS YEAR! 😂 He’s efficient! Not overexposed!
I’m born in the 90s. I’m not sure when the people on this podcast was born, but it’s plenty of people that was rapping in the 90s early 2000s and 2010s that didn’t drop every 1-3 years and still get called the goat what Drake was doing was relatively new in any music genre it just rap And this is why Kendrick fans was pointing out that he has ghostwriters helping him drop more often
Yall with the Drake “is the best” narrative is nasty work. After all that Kdot has done yall still talking about “He gotta be around more” I can’t stand yall sometimes bruh my god.
The last half of this chat was whack. Kendrick has already done countless things for years Drake has never achieved. You guys are going off of clout that matters to teenagers way way too much. He was crowned and ordained by legends, and in terms of his rapping across features and albums, Kendrick is centuries more consistent than Drake.
I think Drake isn't just hip-hop which makes him a bigger artist but as far as rapping is concerned Kendrick has always been the king of the big three. His discography and body of work ages like a fine wine. He is the King of Rap. Drake never has been the king of rap. That title can't be his he got to many ghost writers.
Kendrick's Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers (which some saw as some epic flop of an album) was THE HIGHEST SELLING RAP TOUR in HISTORY.... so what the phuck are you guys talking about him "maybe" selling out arenas?? Huh???? Lol 😬💆🏽♀️ These so-called hip hop podcasters don't know some very crucial details to be sitting on these platforms like know-it-alls. Lol Whoa.
Dude Kendrick Lamar has been the king of hiphop since 2013 y’all must have been sleep since 2011 and just now waking up he been the greatest rapper on the planet the last 12 years
Kendrick has everything to be the King of hip-hop. From my perspective, I also think it's important to have respect from the culture and those in the genre and this is something Kendrick has more than Drake imo. Drake is out here beefing with almost everyone and so many people in the genre have been seeing him in a weird way, so I am not sure how well Drake could be a positive leader of the genre. We can give Drake credit for his hits/streams/sales but that's not the only thing hip-hop is about. Drake has also been going back and forth with rap and pop music. I also think with this title, you have to show respect for the genre, the culture, and the people within it (Kendrick embodied all of this and this should be highly considered). I want to give Drake credit for helping to bring out some new artists, but the thing with Drake is that he will think that you owe him your entire career, especially whenever there is a fallout between you two (he wants people to be indebted to him). Also, Kendrick’s live performances are always exceptional, so I am not sure why you are comparing him and Drake. Kendrick knows how to move the crowd. He is well known for improvising and changing up lyrics creatively during his live shows.
Since when does a king or a great have to drop every single year? Something has more value when it is rare and less accessible, everyone knows that. Making album after album and constantly being in your face is something that Drake drowned you with. It’s not a qualification of a king of hip-hop. Dot just basically proved that he could come out of hiding and take out your “king” with 5 diss songs…
I consider Kendrick king cause every time he does drop, we are quick to not care about any other album before. I mean think about. Kendrick has the lowest amount of albums n he is still in the conversations (Opinion)
Remember, between April 1975 and April 1995, Michael Jackson released just 4 albums. If you're the best, it doesn't matter how frequently you drop. And Kendrick is the best.
Y’all definitely young because people used to dropped albums back in the day, every 4 year or Michael Jackson would drop albums every 4 years!! He is the King of Pop!! This barometer that y’all have for dropping consistently is ridiculous!! Y’all need to be more concerned about quality than quantity!!
The 3rd verse of Not Like Us should have explained that Drake actually uses the new artists so he can stay relevant. As block Boy JB and Club Goes Up guy.
Kendrick can do a tour right now and get all sold out shows. He don’t even need a new album to that 😂 Yall say anything on here. This why folks want podcast mics banned. Kendrick doesn’t want to be the next Drake. Y’all can have Aubrey. No one is trying to be him. Kdot is himself and that’s that. To a lot of us he’s the king of hip hop. Drake can be yall king but Kendrick is ours.
I think there’s a major difference between the king of hip hop and the king of the west coast. If we’re talking about hip hop, K Dot is solidified as the goat because of his art, talking about the King of the west coast it about the culture. Over all going back to hip hop, he’s just another great artist, but he’s still the Goat in my book personally 💯that just how I look at it
Y'all like quantity 😂😂😂Since 2017-till now Aubrey has released garbage and y'all will swallow that up. Kendrick's life is not rap only and he loves his family.
Kendrick can drop an album whenever he wants to. Drake will never be above Kendrick, he's not number 1. He has a personality, he has a life. Drake is out here because he has to be, all of the commitments. Who wants to tour all year? Think about it. Kendrick has a family and he'll come out when he wants to and you guys can think what you want. When he decides to come out he's still win, win, win, so there you go.
Kendrick doesn't give a fuck about what yall want, he said his life ain't rap, he got a son to raise but when ever someone push him his going to let them know who's really the one
Kendrick is the guy who doesnt need an album every year, a feature every second month & an instagram photo every hour to be a king. Yeah drake is huge but for us who grew up with hip hop before it became diluted with artists who dont write & get pushed in our faces by giants like UMG Kendrick is & has been the King. We arent just in the moment. Let drake disappear for 5 years with no social media, music, no push from UMG & then we shall see who the real king is.
Sounds like they want kDot to be Drake and they’re not the same. Drake has to be out there because the power that be makes him. Kendrick can stay doing what he does and be creative and most definitely it over saturated. Team KDot.
I like y’all but think about what you’re saying before you come on the podcast and just start spewing. Kendrick Lamar had four albums from 2012 to 2022. The only reason why Mr. morale and the big steppers didn’t drop earlier was because of Covid. If you want to include, the Black Panther soundtrack as one of his creations, he had five creations within that time. What are y’all talking about when you say “Be more consistent”?
Why are y’all saying Kendrick needs to do what drake is doing to be “king” y’all want him to drop music like drake when he’s not drake he’s Kendrick. I don’t want Kendrick dropping outside of his timing. Yall saying he might not sell out a world Wilde tour After come off a world wide tour lmao that’s crazy y’all really not tapped in with Kendrick y’all on the wave
He’s the king because he can destroy Drake, but Drake can’t destroy him. Kendrick is a forever artist like Dr. Dre said, what makes him the king is that if he decides he’s going to eat, everyone hast to move out the way until he decides he’s finished eating.
Bro, like what king of hip hop are u talking about. Do you think drake, who doesn't even write for the culture, he makes bops can be considered the king of hip hop. the hip hop is the culture and drake has never done anything for it. and when was he ever the king like this is dumb
For me kendrick is the king of hiphop now. Drake collabs with artists that are getting hot to stay relevant. But it's not to get them out there. It's to stay in the light.
i consider king of hip hop as an artist imbedded in the culture and leads it. not someone has to be outside as obnoxiously as drake has. before drake has any other Crown holders did that? Wayne, Hov, Nas, Em, Dre, Big, Pac? do u understand the culture u speak of and what it asks of its King?
They are both powerful in diff ways and need each other to keep the balance in hip hop… after this simmers down it’s in their best interest to work together bc they both are better off having an understanding tht hip hop needs both of them in order to thrive and stay healthy. They are the Ying & Yang of hip hop.
@@devin6079 Im not saying that Drake is irreplaceable or the genre will die w/o him like other ppl are insinuating but he does contribute to the genre overall in a big way and so does Kendrick. Hip-hop is healthier with them both being active bc Kendrick is the balance. Hip hop has declined bc we have not had that its been nothing but Drake non stop. If the genre is going to be healthy again they both need to use their influence to make great music and bring up the next generation and not try o ruin each other is all. they aint got be friends but hey have a duty to leave the genre in a healthy state for the next generation.
Y’all are adding unnecessary definitions to what it means to be the king of hip-hop I think for most people when they say Kendrick is the king they just mean that he’s the best rapper all this stuff about how much he’s putting on and all this stuff is extracurricular, but as far as rap goes, no one’s fucking with Dot right now. Period.
The thing is why always put people UP only by riding their wave or giving features ? Like you can just co-sign them. DR.DRE and Snoop Dog co signed him and let him do his things 🤷🏾♀️ So I don’t understand this type of attitude where to put people up you need to always give features. Like FOR me J.cole is the one who really find GREAT rappers (Dreamville) and helps them create an artistry and let them grow, that for me is the type of help I personally think an OG should do. Drake can’t even help people from his camp, HE JUST AMPLIFIES rappers who already had a hype going on 🤷🏾♀️. And the thing I dislike is how when talking about those artist it’s always gonna be about Drake, I want people to talk about them for their music and own achievements not because Drake or Kendrick made features with them. Like it’s good for a start but at the end of the day if they make it ALWAYS gonna go back to who put them up 🙄. Give them a platform and let them express their art if you want to give a features in an album hell yes, but don’t ride their wave and make it about you. And for me HIP-HOP IS NOT LIKE POP, the way some judges hip hop is crazy, especially rap, for me you are the king of hip-hop for your artistry of course mainstream matters but with how we make discussion about rap and hip-hop is just gonna change the whole genres of it. Because if tomorrow a rapper make it by talking about idk Yuno Miles type of vibe 💀😭 AND STAYS AT THE TOP FOR 10y just talking bs is he the King of Hip-Hop is that what’s really it’s about? The way people are judging music more about the buissness and not about the art form is just showing how people don’t care about what an artist say or how he make art as long the numbers are there then he is the most amazing artist. Popular dosent equal quality or greatness. Rap has never been about NUMBERS but more about the art form of it and if we could find a balance between those 2 you have great criteria but numbers should never matter most that the art form, because Rap is an art before anything 🤷🏾♀️. And Kendrick had his run but it’s pretty funny how people like to forget it but whatever. And I don’t want Kendrick to capitalize the industry as Drake did, that something pop artist do (that Drake goal and he did so), I want to have multiple artist who are going to put out great music without being afraid of not making it in the top 20 because the next Drake albums is coming (and sure they have to be ready for competition) BUT THE WAY Drake moved in the past with those new artist just showed that he wanted the light to stay in him 🤷🏾♀️. He made it impossible for others rappers to co-exist alone without him taking a bit of their light to put it on him (here is still my opinion). So yes Drake gave others artist more power but let’s not forget that it’s also a way for him to be in the LIGHT WITH THEM because I think he is scared of being forgotten when like HE IS DRAKE. He already in the pantheon of the greatest artist (not Mc for me but he is the same range as Kanye and Dre) so when he will accept that he is an OG and that he can be like Jayz he will be fine. Because for me in term of body of art with only 5 albums (i think he only need one more or 2 certified classics) Kendrick is way better than Drake 🤷🏾♀️. Sure Drake has the numbers but in term of ALBUMS Kendrick has 3 of the best rap album ever made (imo), I still want a rap album from Drake where it’s really rap but I already accepted years ago that he is not that type of artist, Take Care is one the best hip-hop album but for me in term of rap album it’s way to RnB😬. So for me Kendrick is soon to be 40, I want him to gives us 1/2 albums and then just go back to living his life if he want to focus on finding new artist or whatever. But for me Drake made us think he is that guy in terms of rap (for a looong looong time as someone who’s not a casual Drake listeners I thought he was an RnB singer like CB, this beef showed that he was a rapper) by staying at the top with his hit songs and for me the real last hit song from him is Gods Plan (imo). I just want Drake to accept that he is an OG that he doesn’t have to ride every wave to be that guy. Jayz is that Guy, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dre, Snoop, Ice Cube, Andre 3k, Eminem, 50 etc.. those are some of the greatest ever. Drake doesn’t need to try so hard we already know how great he is. For many reasons I’ll never include him in my (personal opinion) list of the greatest MCs ever but artist wise he’s definitely there. So yeah idk what y’all are expecting from Kendrick, i don’t personally want him to be a superstar or whatever. During this beef, hip-hop was soooo fun again (which seems weird how is Drake the King but isn’t able to shake the game on his own 🤷🏾♀️) we all wait for Kendrick albums or singles, he goes away but when he is here the game has more fun to it 😬 maybe Drake isn’t able to do because he is here every year both of them are so different!! I’ve never seen so many artist shine than during this year, i think the beef was needed because it’s kinda change everything, a lot of people had stop paying attention to men rap, the female artists are at the top of it (imo) and with this moment right here Hip-Hop just was soooo fun again. I hope that this moment will make others artist shine to put out their project and this summer is gonna have a lot of great art (Yg, Roddy, Mustard, maybe Metro and 21, future etc.. even new artist) like I just want NEW wave. Kendrick and Drake it’s fun but like people have to see that this is the end of an era and THEY CANT be at the top all the time, a NEW TOP 5 or 3 has to emerge. So this was the battle of titan, and both of them have legacy and this was just the result of 10+ of fight.
Drake was not the reason that Kendrick popped out. To book that forum, you have to do that in advance. I suspect he was always going to do the Juneteenth event. He did like that and was ready for whatever came next.
It feels like you guys equate being outside to being great. Drake has been outside so much his music has suffered. He has not progressed as an artist. He's just grown more into a pop star. You essentially want Dot to be a popstar and he refuses to be that. becz the industry is full of weirdos. Let that man put out great work and leave. He fed the streets quality and consistency
Exactly u get it
Than when we check their intellect were elitist. No. I don't like microwave food nor so I like microwave music . Kendrick is a Michelin star restaurant, drakes fast food. Quality over quantity..
@@smcchermon2047exactly you would never say McDonald’s makes better food than gordan ramsey restaurants. You can say more accessible but definitely not greater and when it comes to rap Drake barely makes rap musics most of his discography is a mixture of rap pop rnb afrobeats and dance music
@@Thoughtitwasadroughtfacts 🎉🎉
Kendrick was always the king. Aubrey was The Emperor With New Clothes…
I used the Emperor analogy about Drake before.
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This is not an Eastcoast vs Westcoast thing, it's all about Canada vs American . The Westcoast folks are not that chummy with the Westcoast side of Canada!😌😌
Remember KDOT said that this performance was Spiritual😏
Right 😂😂😂
Y’all really say anything:
Kendrick drops consistently. Overly Dedicated 2010
Section.80 2011
g.o.o.d kid mad city 2012
To Pimp a Butterfly 2015
Untitled Unmastered 2016
Damn.2017
Black Panther soundtrack 2018
Mr Morale and the Big Steppers 2022. Please stop regurgitating narratives and verify your facts.
The message seems to be that Kendrick's consistent style is appreciated by his diehard fans, but it may not resonate as well with a broader audience. As someone who has been a fan since the early days, Since the section80 . However, it's important to recognize that artists evolve and experiment with different styles. In contrast, Drake's frequent releases may not always be well-received, but they do keep him in the public eye and contribute to his overall popularity.
@@bharp375 Except that was not what they were saying and that is not the narrative that is being pushed regarding consistency with the amount of music he releases. That’s why you see another post stating the exact same thing
@@bharp375it could be argued to a fault...
@@bharp375The narrative that hip hop was dying ran concurrently with Drake's existence mind you.
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING!! its like people remember what they want to remember. Black panther soundtrack was an album.
The Mr. Morale tour was the Highest grossing rap tour of all time BEFORE this beef. What are we even talking about. How are you guys debating if he would sell out a tour???
They are correct I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
@@pretty_wingzread what the OP said and try again. You missed the entire point he was making.
Kendrick concerts always sell out. For years!!!!
@@pretty_wingz so you're saying Kendrick don't have a high count legit fan base? that's wild!
Kendrick is Kendrick because he doesn’t drop every year, drakes whole style now is to hop on any trend to stay relevant, are the features he hops on to show love or to take sounds ? Kendrick isn’t the type to do that because he is AUTHENTIC, can Drake take breaks like dot and still be relevant ?
Those are some valid points and that is a good question👌🏾
He can't because he has commitments he has to pay for, that's why he's touring, touring, touring
@@dabrat7306sound like a personal problem, don’t be making fun of no contracts or splits if you a slave for your label
@@dabrat7306sounds like a personal problem to me, don’t make diss people for there contracts when you can’t control when you drop or not.
He has been the king for the past decade
I keep telling people the most selling rappers is never the best rapper, that metric is only used by industry trying to prop up their plants.
Relax
@@skipg73”the money, power, respect…. The last one is better” 💯
@@thankyoucisco761 Exactly, respect lasts.
He solidified himself as the king after releasing TPAB in 2015. Nobody was touching his level of consistent quality and domination of hip hop. I'm not talking about sales, I'm talking about discography and impact
There is a difference between putting someone on and whatever Drake does. Not many people who have worked with Drake have a career worth mentioning now.
How they define the king of hip-hop is so weird; I've never seen discussions on it be handled like this. The king of hip-hop primarily has to do with one's qualities as an MC, not who you feature, how much music you put out and how popular you are. If that is how people will argue for the position of the 'king of hip-hop', then Drake is the ultimate king of hip-hop, and no one can compete against him. Mcs like Nas would have never been in such an argument. With this logic, I'll also go as far as to say that guys like Future and Travis Scott are closer to being the kings of hip-hop than Kendrick. This logic is so weird and flawed
thank you.
Agreed ! Please they need study more on the culture of hip hop and cultural aspect of Blackness . This seems tone deaf and lacking .
Professor Skye made a great point.
Kendrick is first and foremost a champion of hip-hop in a literary sense.
The culture has put its faith in him to do battle against vultures and colonisers and weirdos and anyone else who is a threat to hip-hop.
That performance was him singing with his city about slaying the dragon.
Drake is a Dragon. That’s giving Drake a lot of credit.
@@pretty_wingz In this classic literary context, Dragons are despicable, loathsome creatures. They destroy civilisations and hoard the wealth they steal.
Drake the Drake is a destructive presence. Nothing badass or powerful about it. Just destructive and greedy.
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You guys missed the whole damn point. And that point is, he and Drake move differently, and Kendrick said it best. "Only you like being famous". Also, Drake is Rap/Pop, not hip-hop. Hmmm... 'Next Drake'?
Kendrick does features all the time. Kendrick does festivals all the time. Kendrick puts younger rappers on all the time
He just doesn't Yap about it on Twitter
Exactly!!
The problem is that Drake has not, nor has he ever been hip-hop. Drake is an entertainer who does not come from the culture of hip-hop and that is fine. Where he comes from is OK. It just is not hip-hop culture. You don’t have to be, the US to be hip-hop, but you do have to grow up in a certain lifestyle and Drake simply did not grow up in the culture of hip-hop. He is pop music.
The fact that it even got to the point that people were lying and saying that this man who is clearly cosplaying the negative aspects of what he believes to be black culture, had anyone cosigning him as hip-hop is what is sad. The industry wanted Drake to be the face hip-hop because while they like some hip-hop, they don’t want to hear the type of truth about the culture Kendrick speaks about. They pushed that false narrative with Drake about the culture. The problem is that the industry kept pushing artist on us like Drake so they can hijack the culture . The culture already knew that Kendrick is the king of hip-hop and has been for several years. The industry just had to get out the way with their smoking mirrors propping up Drake..
Say that first line again for me‼️‼️
The Game burned some major bridges in L.A. and that's why he wasn't invited. His presence would've taken away from the event.
Exactly! He operates identical to his Canadian friend. Corny as shit 😂
He's jealous
He dissed Dre he brought drake to Compton and let him sneak diss kdot he lets wack100 say anything about nip when nips is ur boy and u ain’t check him..Game been corny and that’s why the California don’t fuck with him no more also scammed his fans during the pandemic
drake was NEVER the king of hip hop
King of pop but not hip hop
@@leedurham3144nah nah nah that's forever MJ
@@leedurham3144 preach sir preach
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER
Nope
12:45 Last year Kendrick broke Drake’s record of highest $$ rap tour - and that concert is on Amazon Prime. He’s already broke Drake’s concert record. I think Kendrick has been doing this for many years and just flew under a lot of folks radar as he doesn’t do the social media trolling and posting. And doesn’t have the “industry” media machine pushing his numbers. Plus all this “King of Hip Hop” is different than what Drake does for Hip Hop music. I.e. Hip Hop culture vs music industry / corporate definition of the Hip Hop sphere.
Even ‘DAMN’ outsold ‘more life’ by a 100k in the same year lol
@@mariahsel6248 Yes. It really is just PR spin and how “in your face” Drake and his music is pushed where the narratives get twisted around where folks forget all the real facts. It’s intentional by the industry - and it works.
Kendrick is already a big performing artist
Yeah that was a weird statement I thought at least one of them was a fan of K dot
Kendrick took a 4 year hiatus because of COVID ( Mr Morale was supposed to drop in 2020). And all of a sudden, y'all say he don't know how to be consistent or do features. Stop listening to what Drake told y'all.
He dropped in 2010/11/12 each year with OD, Section 80 and GKMC. The last 2 are Gold and Platinum
then 2 years of touring and features ( whose Collard Greens for example)
Then he Dropped in:
2015 TPAB
2016 Untitled Unmastered (mixtape)
2017 DAMN
2018 Black Panther Sound track album
Doing number 1 each year ( with little to no promotion) and the 3 albums are platinum.
The hiatus from 2019-2021 then he is on Baby Keem album then he drop his own Mr Morale ( also platinum), before doing his biggest tour ever and 2 biggest tour in hip hop history
And now he dropped 3 of the biggest song of the year ( Like That, Euphoria, Not Like Us)
He was already a superstar especially since DAMN
I must be out of touch cause I thought it was consensus that Kendrick's been the king of hiphop for the past decade. Drake has been the most dominant artist, yes, but never the voice. I guess the time leading up to Mr. Morale allowed Cole and Drake to change the narrative, which is fair. I mean the album was partly about the weight of the crown, lol. I guess this is part of why people counted him out during the beef. Actually, people thinking someone like Drake could be considered the king of hiphop is Kendrick's whole point.
Kendrick has been number 1 for a while. Drake is a Pop star, not a hip hop star. There is no comparison. We just saw what happens when a Pop star attacks a hip hop artist. Kendrick is the culture.. it's not about an album run.
Not true. I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
@@pretty_wingz .... Only a handful?! The man has a Pulitzer prize...
@@pretty_wingzlol there was definitely not just a handful of Kendrick fans Kendrick been huge
Kendrick been king. Man doesn’t need to put out album after album. I’m still digesting dot albums from years ago.
Not true. I was at the concert and most of the people there were bandwaggoners. They were “used to be Drake fans.” There were only a handful of Kendrick fans prior to the beef, and neutral fans like me.
Ninjas want Kendrick to be the new Drake😂 Drake got beheaded for a reason. Kendrick is king of hip-hop and he will rule as he pleases.
You guys want him to suck other artists energy to stay on top. NO! Drake wasn't doing all those things out of love. He did them to stay on top for as long as possible.
I think ppl are over complicating…. This is similar to jay and Nas after their beef JayZ went back to making hits and Nas went bck to being Nas…. This beef is not for kdot to start moving like Drake or replace him lol this was about respect/ Hate and proving tht he is a better rapper not pop star or celebrity. Kdot said tht he doesn’t care abt being famous.
But I do think he will be more active bc he’s not under TDE anymore which is why I think this beef happened when it did… no one is holding him bck from dropping bc if you notice Sza doesn’t drop as much either.
I think the King of hip-hop fits Kendrick perfectly and he doesn't have to put out an album every year. Quality over quantity. Kendrick's albums are very critically acclaimed and I think that's very telling. He has so many songs for the culture that are impactful. Drake started off great with the albums he used to put out but now it's more like Drake is just releasing as much music as he can to fulfill whatever contract he has going on (his recent albums have not been hitting hard). If you all are going to determine the King of hip-hop based on how many songs/albums they have put out instead of how much quality, impactful, or creative work they have, then that’s interesting.
Y'all want kendrick to drop for u to talk and make videos consistently here, outside nobody cares . Kdot been here so long, people still hearing his old shit man.. he is up there near to Eminem .. kendrick is kendrick, don't align him with drake
Mainstream also does not = King of HipHop
yeah u can tell They Not Like Us
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Drake is divisive and in the void we would get more artists without him. Less artists being forced into that mold. We don't need Kendrick to be around. We just need more music. More artists. More voices and perspectives. It does not need to be Drake music or Kendrick music. Just music. It's weird seeing the music industry unable to see that
What are you talking about, there's hella good artists out there just not mainstream enough, try JID, Denzel Curry and Joey Badass for example
@@paquinraino8180she is literally saying what you said dummy, it’s bigger than 1 artist, these guys been acting like drake is rap, there’s other artist making better music.
@@jadencandelario7880 yes, this!!! CAP acts like if Drake is down and Kendrick makes an album every other year, all of music is lost! It's weird! We'll just get a greater variety of music. I'm excited
@@paquinraino8180 That is literally the problem and it speaks to what the poster is saying. The industry refuses to push multiple artists and the artists who do get pushed are typically forced into an image. Hence being the aforementioned artists who you just named are “underground”. That’s really not new since Talib Kweli stated in one his songs. The industry wants branding behind a few artists that they find palpable instead of letting the artist create and we appreciate diversity in genres of music
A rapper who has a history of not writing his own songs, steals everyone else’s flows/swag, loses a rap beef in emphatic fashion to his competitor, makes a ton of pop songs, ect ect. Embarrassing to say Drake is better all time than Kendrick.
thank you
People overblow the wait times between albums. He only took a long time to release his last one. Before that, he was consistent.
Drake isn't hip hop, he's POP! He has described himself as this. Hip Hop was born out of the civil rights movement and struggles of black folks. Drake can not only not identify with this, he's never shown any interest in speaking on black & brown issues. As Pusha T said, "You are silent on all black issues, you don't speak on nothing about black people." He is an absolute "culture vulture!" 🤷🏾♀️I'm so glad Kendrick exposed him in such a raw, and direct way👏🏾👏🏾
Does rappers like future or young thug rapping about the black struggle?
Me too. These fools are trying to proclaim an entertainer who is not even from Hip Hop the King. Ridiculous. Insanity
That’s amazing you are so fulfilled and able to sleep better at night due to his dethroning. Some of y’all really don’t have jobs. Just listen to the music and move on. Y’all are really sick in the head lmao. I bet you didn’t even go to the concert. I was there. Y’all some fake fans.
@@Beautifulleo26 That’s amazing you are so fulfilled and able to sleep better at night due to his dethroning. Some of y’all really don’t have jobs. Just listen to the music and move on. Y’all are really sick in the head lmao. I bet you didn’t even go to the concert. I was there. Y’all some fake fans.
@@pretty_wingz 🤡🤡You must be a fan of Aubrey’s. What? You’re afraid to step to the guys so you respond to the lady in the chat like a typical Stan of the entertainer Aubrey who made you feel good about being a weirdo. Go away 🤡
DJ Hed spoke on his podcast that Kendrick hand picked everyone that performed at The Pop Out. Reminder, The Game had to pay $7.1 million in damages to a reality dating show contestant after a jury in 2016 found him liable for sexual assault! Of course Kendrick didn't want him on stage🤷🏾♀️
But he had Dr Dre. Has been accused by many women including his ex wife of domestic abuse.
I disagree that the metric for King is who you put on and how much you put out and before Drake that was never a metric.
SAY IT LOUDER🗣️🗣️🗣️
New? Bro been the king for years
Kendrick supporters been knowing.
Kendrick doesn't need to do anything but be who he is! So many people in the world can learn from how he moves. 👑🥋🐐
GOD BLESS THE CHILD THAT WRITES HIS OWN
King Kendrick ❤
Moving goal post to fit bias is hilarious.
DRAKE IS NOT HIP HOP🤷🏽♂️ he’s a pop star not a lyicist👍🏾
Hits and sales are irrelevant facts when it comes to who’s the king in hip hop. If we were going by the numbers then Flo Rida would be considered better than Biggie, 2pac, OutKast, etc.
Sorry, humans need to grow up. When Dot drops, we gonna buy. Just bc Drake over saturated the field with music don't mean everyone else gotta. Do any one march to their own drum anymore?
Quality over quantity… real Kendrick fans always knew he had the crown. 👑
Kendrick doesn’t move like drake it will never happen. Kendrick doesn’t play corporate games like drake. Yall don’t know what comes with a Drake feature. These artists gets screwed on the business side. SMH
He uses the less known artists for clout from his features on their songs then we never hear or see them again 😂
Nah , yall want him to be around he doesn't have to be around! Your king just got dethroned and put on a stake! He ain't the king no more!
Kendrick had to get Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers out of the way so that he could let loose and have fun. I think were gonna see another album like DAMN where it has a lot of mainstream appeal. I hope he puts a big west coast vibe on it myself as well. And Kendrick most definitely has the capability of doing a big tour no doubt!
I think a king can go away and come back anytime, but when a king comes back, people pay attention and want to hear from you. That's Kendrick! Drake can work consistently because he has a ghost writing sweat shop. It's easy to stay on top of music consistently if you don't come up with all of your bars and have a library of reference tracks. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂💯
I agree that Kendrick not gonna be outside much longer but who knows all I know is Drake has benefited a lot from Kendrick’s absence. But in terms of king of hip hop when it comes to discography talent and bars it’s been Kendrick since 2012
Was Drake putting them on or was he gate keeping? That’s in reference the many Makkonnen’s. Buried career’s in the name of talent sucking.
2011 Section 80
2012 GKMC
2015 TPAB
2016 UU
2017 DAMN
2018 Black Panther
2022 MM&TBS
Michael Jackson (King of Pop) did he release an album ever year? Prince & Janet had “ERAs” - The Artists Kendrick reveres would never release a watered-down, forgettable product to appease the masses. Drake’s last 2-3 projects have been trashed by critics and listeners (Scary Hours was made for a reason). You think Kendrick releases a project and then a few weeks later re-releases it to add more songs to respond to YT Reactors and Podcasters? 😂 Mr. Morale was released literally 2 yrs ago, had 5 visuals, and a Worldwide Tour for over a year. His most recent show before the Pop Out was in Mexico City THIS YEAR! 😂 He’s efficient! Not overexposed!
This battle just solidified Kendricks place as king. Drake never had the throne this battle just showed he had it even if he wasnt the most popular
He's been the king to most RAP fans since before control
I’m born in the 90s. I’m not sure when the people on this podcast was born, but it’s plenty of people that was rapping in the 90s early 2000s and 2010s that didn’t drop every 1-3 years and still get called the goat what Drake was doing was relatively new in any music genre it just rap And this is why Kendrick fans was pointing out that he has ghostwriters helping him drop more often
Yall with the Drake “is the best” narrative is nasty work. After all that Kdot has done yall still talking about “He gotta be around more”
I can’t stand yall sometimes bruh my god.
The last half of this chat was whack. Kendrick has already done countless things for years Drake has never achieved. You guys are going off of clout that matters to teenagers way way too much. He was crowned and ordained by legends, and in terms of his rapping across features and albums, Kendrick is centuries more consistent than Drake.
I think Drake isn't just hip-hop which makes him a bigger artist but as far as rapping is concerned Kendrick has always been the king of the big three. His discography and body of work ages like a fine wine.
He is the King of Rap. Drake never has been the king of rap. That title can't be his he got to many ghost writers.
Kendrick's Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers (which some saw as some epic flop of an album) was THE HIGHEST SELLING RAP TOUR in HISTORY.... so what the phuck are you guys talking about him "maybe" selling out arenas?? Huh???? Lol 😬💆🏽♀️
These so-called hip hop podcasters don't know some very crucial details to be sitting on these platforms like know-it-alls. Lol
Whoa.
Dude Kendrick Lamar has been the king of hiphop since 2013 y’all must have been sleep since 2011 and just now waking up he been the greatest rapper on the planet the last 12 years
What yall fail to realize is that history shows until 2017 Kendrick dropped every two years. His 5 year hiatus doesn’t negate his typical average
Kendrick has everything to be the King of hip-hop. From my perspective, I also think it's important to have respect from the culture and those in the genre and this is something Kendrick has more than Drake imo. Drake is out here beefing with almost everyone and so many people in the genre have been seeing him in a weird way, so I am not sure how well Drake could be a positive leader of the genre. We can give Drake credit for his hits/streams/sales but that's not the only thing hip-hop is about. Drake has also been going back and forth with rap and pop music.
I also think with this title, you have to show respect for the genre, the culture, and the people within it (Kendrick embodied all of this and this should be highly considered). I want to give Drake credit for helping to bring out some new artists, but the thing with Drake is that he will think that you owe him your entire career, especially whenever there is a fallout between you two (he wants people to be indebted to him).
Also, Kendrick’s live performances are always exceptional, so I am not sure why you are comparing him and Drake. Kendrick knows how to move the crowd. He is well known for improvising and changing up lyrics creatively during his live shows.
Ya'll gotta catch up lol
Yeah guys really are saying quantity over quality, only real good quality music will last. All this other bs is here today and gone tomorrow
The Game absolutely does not have one of the greatest discographies of all time 😂 tf you on
The concert shows the importance of regional representation, pushing the culture as a whole. #CheckMate 💯
Quality not quantity. All of Kendrick's albums are quality. As far as fame: "I'm allergic to the lame sh#$, only you like bein' famous." Euphoria
Since when does a king or a great have to drop every single year? Something has more value when it is rare and less accessible, everyone knows that. Making album after album and constantly being in your face is something that Drake drowned you with. It’s not a qualification of a king of hip-hop. Dot just basically proved that he could come out of hiding and take out your “king” with 5 diss songs…
I consider Kendrick king cause every time he does drop, we are quick to not care about any other album before. I mean think about. Kendrick has the lowest amount of albums n he is still in the conversations
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Remember, between April 1975 and April 1995, Michael Jackson released just 4 albums.
If you're the best, it doesn't matter how frequently you drop. And Kendrick is the best.
Kendrick don't like being famous. It's not about him it's about HipHop.
Y’all definitely young because people used to dropped albums back in the day, every 4 year or Michael Jackson would drop albums every 4 years!! He is the King of Pop!! This barometer that y’all have for dropping consistently is ridiculous!! Y’all need to be more concerned about quality than quantity!!
The 3rd verse of Not Like Us should have explained that Drake actually uses the new artists so he can stay relevant. As block Boy JB and Club Goes Up guy.
Kendrick can do a tour right now and get all sold out shows. He don’t even need a new album to that 😂 Yall say anything on here. This why folks want podcast mics banned. Kendrick doesn’t want to be the next Drake. Y’all can have Aubrey. No one is trying to be him. Kdot is himself and that’s that. To a lot of us he’s the king of hip hop. Drake can be yall king but Kendrick is ours.
I think there’s a major difference between the king of hip hop and the king of the west coast. If we’re talking about hip hop, K Dot is solidified as the goat because of his art, talking about the King of the west coast it about the culture. Over all going back to hip hop, he’s just another great artist, but he’s still the Goat in my book personally 💯that just how I look at it
Y'all like quantity 😂😂😂Since 2017-till now Aubrey has released garbage and y'all will swallow that up. Kendrick's life is not rap only and he loves his family.
Kendrick can drop an album whenever he wants to. Drake will never be above Kendrick, he's not number 1. He has a personality, he has a life. Drake is out here because he has to be, all of the commitments. Who wants to tour all year? Think about it. Kendrick has a family and he'll come out when he wants to and you guys can think what you want. When he decides to come out he's still win, win, win, so there you go.
Drake has been the most consistent pop star but he doesn’t do much to push hip hop forward
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I'm tired of people acting like kendrick only the king cuz of these rounds.. this man has been a champion since the beginning by himself
Saying Kendrick ain’t put nobody on is nuts
Kendrick doesn't give a fuck about what yall want, he said his life ain't rap, he got a son to raise but when ever someone push him his going to let them know who's really the one
Kendrick is the guy who doesnt need an album every year, a feature every second month & an instagram photo every hour to be a king. Yeah drake is huge but for us who grew up with hip hop before it became diluted with artists who dont write & get pushed in our faces by giants like UMG Kendrick is & has been the King. We arent just in the moment. Let drake disappear for 5 years with no social media, music, no push from UMG & then we shall see who the real king is.
Aubrey still the king, Kendrick the prince
Club Ambition international 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sounds like they want kDot to be Drake and they’re not the same. Drake has to be out there because the power that be makes him.
Kendrick can stay doing what he does and be creative and most definitely it over saturated.
Team KDot.
I like y’all but think about what you’re saying before you come on the podcast and just start spewing. Kendrick Lamar had four albums from 2012 to 2022. The only reason why Mr. morale and the big steppers didn’t drop earlier was because of Covid. If you want to include, the Black Panther soundtrack as one of his creations, he had five creations within that time. What are y’all talking about when you say “Be more consistent”?
Kendrick has 17 grammy’s & 1 Pulitzer. Kendrick is a different artist than Drake. Drake is for the basic person being “pacified”.
Why are y’all saying Kendrick needs to do what drake is doing to be “king” y’all want him to drop music like drake when he’s not drake he’s Kendrick. I don’t want Kendrick dropping outside of his timing. Yall saying he might not sell out a world Wilde tour After come off a world wide tour lmao that’s crazy y’all really not tapped in with Kendrick y’all on the wave
This was one small step for hip hop and one giant leap for the underground...
He’s the king because he can destroy Drake, but Drake can’t destroy him. Kendrick is a forever artist like Dr. Dre said, what makes him the king is that if he decides he’s going to eat, everyone hast to move out the way until he decides he’s finished eating.
Bro, like what king of hip hop are u talking about. Do you think drake, who doesn't even write for the culture, he makes bops can be considered the king of hip hop. the hip hop is the culture and drake has never done anything for it. and when was he ever the king like this is dumb
Glad to see people in the comments realise that Kenny been the king of hip hop, sales and popularity don't make you the best.
The King drops when he wants to cuz he’s the king 😂
For me kendrick is the king of hiphop now. Drake collabs with artists that are getting hot to stay relevant. But it's not to get them out there. It's to stay in the light.
Bbldrizzy could NEVER have this moment in Canada, Aubrey did nothing for Toronto 🥱🥱 a lot of people in Toronto don’t rate Drake like bffr🤧🤧
Well said 👏
Kendrick Lamar has 4th highest grossing tour of all time $164M
i consider king of hip hop as an artist imbedded in the culture and leads it. not someone has to be outside as obnoxiously as drake has. before drake has any other Crown holders did that? Wayne, Hov, Nas, Em, Dre, Big, Pac? do u understand the culture u speak of and what it asks of its King?
What artist has Drake found and brought to the culture?
They are both powerful in diff ways and need each other to keep the balance in hip hop… after this simmers down it’s in their best interest to work together bc they both are better off having an understanding tht hip hop needs both of them in order to thrive and stay healthy. They are the Ying & Yang of hip hop.
Bro what am I reading, wtf is happening because y’all can’t be hip hop fans. Hip hop does NOT need drake AT ALL😭
@@devin6079 Im not saying that Drake is irreplaceable or the genre will die w/o him like other ppl are insinuating but he does contribute to the genre overall in a big way and so does Kendrick. Hip-hop is healthier with them both being active bc Kendrick is the balance. Hip hop has declined bc we have not had that its been nothing but Drake non stop. If the genre is going to be healthy again they both need to use their influence to make great music and bring up the next generation and not try o ruin each other is all. they aint got be friends but hey have a duty to leave the genre in a healthy state for the next generation.
Y’all are adding unnecessary definitions to what it means to be the king of hip-hop I think for most people when they say Kendrick is the king they just mean that he’s the best rapper all this stuff about how much he’s putting on and all this stuff is extracurricular, but as far as rap goes, no one’s fucking with Dot right now. Period.
The thing is why always put people UP only by riding their wave or giving features ? Like you can just co-sign them. DR.DRE and Snoop Dog co signed him and let him do his things 🤷🏾♀️
So I don’t understand this type of attitude where to put people up you need to always give features. Like FOR me J.cole is the one who really find GREAT rappers (Dreamville) and helps them create an artistry and let them grow, that for me is the type of help I personally think an OG should do. Drake can’t even help people from his camp, HE JUST AMPLIFIES rappers who already had a hype going on 🤷🏾♀️. And the thing I dislike is how when talking about those artist it’s always gonna be about Drake, I want people to talk about them for their music and own achievements not because Drake or Kendrick made features with them. Like it’s good for a start but at the end of the day if they make it ALWAYS gonna go back to who put them up 🙄. Give them a platform and let them express their art if you want to give a features in an album hell yes, but don’t ride their wave and make it about you.
And for me HIP-HOP IS NOT LIKE POP, the way some judges hip hop is crazy, especially rap, for me you are the king of hip-hop for your artistry of course mainstream matters but with how we make discussion about rap and hip-hop is just gonna change the whole genres of it. Because if tomorrow a rapper make it by talking about idk Yuno Miles type of vibe 💀😭 AND STAYS AT THE TOP FOR 10y just talking bs is he the King of Hip-Hop is that what’s really it’s about? The way people are judging music more about the buissness and not about the art form is just showing how people don’t care about what an artist say or how he make art as long the numbers are there then he is the most amazing artist. Popular dosent equal quality or greatness. Rap has never been about NUMBERS but more about the art form of it and if we could find a balance between those 2 you have great criteria but numbers should never matter most that the art form, because Rap is an art before anything 🤷🏾♀️.
And Kendrick had his run but it’s pretty funny how people like to forget it but whatever.
And I don’t want Kendrick to capitalize the industry as Drake did, that something pop artist do (that Drake goal and he did so), I want to have multiple artist who are going to put out great music without being afraid of not making it in the top 20 because the next Drake albums is coming (and sure they have to be ready for competition) BUT THE WAY Drake moved in the past with those new artist just showed that he wanted the light to stay in him 🤷🏾♀️. He made it impossible for others rappers to co-exist alone without him taking a bit of their light to put it on him (here is still my opinion). So yes Drake gave others artist more power but let’s not forget that it’s also a way for him to be in the LIGHT WITH THEM because I think he is scared of being forgotten when like HE IS DRAKE. He already in the pantheon of the greatest artist (not Mc for me but he is the same range as Kanye and Dre) so when he will accept that he is an OG and that he can be like Jayz he will be fine.
Because for me in term of body of art with only 5 albums (i think he only need one more or 2 certified classics) Kendrick is way better than Drake 🤷🏾♀️. Sure Drake has the numbers but in term of ALBUMS Kendrick has 3 of the best rap album ever made (imo), I still want a rap album from Drake where it’s really rap but I already accepted years ago that he is not that type of artist, Take Care is one the best hip-hop album but for me in term of rap album it’s way to RnB😬.
So for me Kendrick is soon to be 40, I want him to gives us 1/2 albums and then just go back to living his life if he want to focus on finding new artist or whatever. But for me Drake made us think he is that guy in terms of rap (for a looong looong time as someone who’s not a casual Drake listeners I thought he was an RnB singer like CB, this beef showed that he was a rapper) by staying at the top with his hit songs and for me the real last hit song from him is Gods Plan (imo).
I just want Drake to accept that he is an OG that he doesn’t have to ride every wave to be that guy. Jayz is that Guy, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dre, Snoop, Ice Cube, Andre 3k, Eminem, 50 etc.. those are some of the greatest ever. Drake doesn’t need to try so hard we already know how great he is. For many reasons I’ll never include him in my (personal opinion) list of the greatest MCs ever but artist wise he’s definitely there.
So yeah idk what y’all are expecting from Kendrick, i don’t personally want him to be a superstar or whatever. During this beef, hip-hop was soooo fun again (which seems weird how is Drake the King but isn’t able to shake the game on his own 🤷🏾♀️) we all wait for Kendrick albums or singles, he goes away but when he is here the game has more fun to it 😬 maybe Drake isn’t able to do because he is here every year both of them are so different!! I’ve never seen so many artist shine than during this year, i think the beef was needed because it’s kinda change everything, a lot of people had stop paying attention to men rap, the female artists are at the top of it (imo) and with this moment right here Hip-Hop just was soooo fun again. I hope that this moment will make others artist shine to put out their project and this summer is gonna have a lot of great art (Yg, Roddy, Mustard, maybe Metro and 21, future etc.. even new artist) like I just want NEW wave. Kendrick and Drake it’s fun but like people have to see that this is the end of an era and THEY CANT be at the top all the time, a NEW TOP 5 or 3 has to emerge. So this was the battle of titan, and both of them have legacy and this was just the result of 10+ of fight.
Drake was not the reason that Kendrick popped out. To book that forum, you have to do that in advance. I suspect he was always going to do the Juneteenth event. He did like that and was ready for whatever came next.
Thank you guy with the glasses. Game was running off at the mouth. Burned too many bridges