i think i will not get an update ready in the next few days, will take a bit of time since i have all hands to do currently, not even playing the season right now. I would honestly suggest to look into Jungroan pconc build in the meantime. Wish i had any better answer :(
Oh fuck you are right! It was a long night prepping everything, I overlooked that! The Forbidden Flesh/Flame would be super expensive anyway, and are not included in the regular guide anyway. Lets check what Warden has to offer, and I will edit this post as soon as we looked into it! Thanks for the feedback, and sorry for the oversight
I min-maxed PCOB to high hell this league and its my favorite skill now. The sound, look, feel, inbuilt power, tankyness, speed, and it being chaos damage just all came together so well. Not needing a main hand weapon is a positive when league starting, just once less slot/socket/link problem to worry about. Almost always run purity of elements also till you get ailment immunity some how later. Just great. IDK about no grace, this is gonna be odd but we have to see how the new armor bases workout.
I did see your 3.24 pconc build last league, but I don't usually post comments. So I've decided to post one now for some encouragement! :) Eitherway, was a great skill to use and really fun/fresh/new playstyle. Defo recommend others to try it as well (if not at league start, then at least later in the league). Campaign and early mapping was pretty easy as well, and not having to worry about getting a decent weapon simplified things even more.
What are your thoughts on using the Vinespike Cordial annoint instead of Whispers of Doom? Possibly with Inextricable Fate instead of Ralakesh's Impatience? Though I suppose that might also mean taking Master Surgeon instead of Nature's Boon for Pathfinder so the cordial would be online more often.
I've seen some people recommend using a bunch of medium cluster jewels with "follow-through" on them. Have you by any chance compared the difference in damage with those? Curious what would be better as I am not knowledgable about how to use PoB properly still :D
How many Medium Cluster jewels can i put into a league starter before people will say "its too expensive". Follow Through will make your first bounces much stronger, especially if you go for even more projectiles
Assassin would favor a more crit based build, which this one is definetly not. Trickster on the other hand might be a bit easier to build, but according to a quick check in PoB we lose a bit EHP and the flask convenience. I wish I had a better answer now, but Assassin or Trickster does not convince me for Pconc
first off tier 17's are getting a nerf, pathfinder can also scale endurance charges, the build is as cheap as a league starter can get without resorting to a minion build, and Pathfinder PCOB is a tested and mostly solved build. It can get players to red mapping on a budget, and if the player really wanted to, the build can be scaled further or used to farm up currencies for a more smooth mid-game budget. Slayer is not even in the same hemisphere for PCOB so I don't know what bait builds you have been browsing because slayer is better of with melee skills, avoiding other bait like bleeds. Issue with playing a slayer on that note is everyone is playing melee and with flat damage removed along with attack speed scarcity, melee is going to have a fun time experiencing bow build prices. Most melee will get as league start realistically are 1 to 2 skills while the rest are behind mirrors and hundreds of divs, good luck with that. only real options are a spell-caster, minion build, or some kind of throwing on a realistic budget unless the player wants to be stuck in red maps until burnout happens before even making it off the leaguestart.
@@MarkFin9423 You wrote a lot and said very little. Why in the world would you stack endurance charges on a PF when you can do it on slayer and get free frenzy/afflicton charges for it lol. Also slayer and pf use the same gear so your gibberish rant about prices are very confusing.
Pcon of Bouncing is a great allrounder - As people like SpicySushi would say, its great overall, but "kinda boring to play". If you really want to hard-focus on Blight, i think there might be some better builds. When i farmed Blight actively a few seasons ago, i played Skeleton Mages and just afk'd in the middle. This was the best experience i had in Blight, sooo... The build can do Blight for sure, its just not the best Blight'er thats out there. That would be my advice
Good question, should have mentioned it but I am in so much stress currently, and have probably over-rushed the videos. Soul of Ryslatha gives more Life Flask Charges which is actually quiet important
Oh, you are correct. War Banner during leveling needs to be scrapped from the list! Sorry it was a long night, maybe i shouldnt have rushed it so fast. War Banner does also only apply to melee attacks, which we dont have.
nobody buys a unique non 6L Body Armor because the damage you lose from missing a Support Gem is far greater than the damage you gain from having the unique in almost all cases. The assertion that Restless Wards are cheap because they don't cost anything with bad sockets is silly. Just use whatever 6L body armor you find on the ground and later a Dendrobate until you have currency.
Correct and based! Dont forget that restless ward will be a great double corrupt base (as stated in the video). Reason to state that Restless Ward is cheap is due to the fact that I experienced many TH-cam Commenters in the past that said "loool requires uniques for build" even tho they were evidently just 1c bases.
Means this time you gonna suggest something bad again? As per your intro😂 It's a joke don't take it seriously, but seriously man I would love to try something new as I always have been going with bleed builds
@@naomi.kautzky in many ways. Concotion is not a projectile so for example you have to point exactly where you want to throw it because it fly over enemies, not like any other distance skill like bow skill. So you need to predict and hit enemy or it will bounce randomly. Another thing is you need to backtrack a lot for loot from enemies that will die behind you and enemies will have a lot of time to deal damage to you. As a ranger, you really do not want to let enemy to do actions but this build will make enemies punish you so much. Having also -1/-2 utility flasks is also extra annoying, especially as pathfinder. There are way better poison starter builds which do not have these issues. I started poisonous concotion 2 times. In Scourge and last league. Both starts were really not fun, clear was awful, same with damage - it was decent in acts but on maps it sucked so hard. Doing map 2-3 times longer because of fact you need to use skill few times more in all direction or because you miss (especially vs fast enemies) is really annoying. I had same feeling while playing traps but at least they had really good boss damage. If you really want to try it, go ahead, but just saying - everything looks cool on videos but usually it feel way different when you play it self.
Can you explain how this is a bait build? most people endorse Pcon of Bouncing, the guide is updated from 3.24 to 3.25, and includes all changes. We even talk about patch notes.
@@ScruffyGG did I say it was i just warning people to do they own research I did not say at all that this was bait. I respect you scruffy sorry if it came off that I was projecting my comment towards your video. But no I was just helping stating what people should do to protect them selves from actuall bait.
As you might can guess from my intro, the overwhelming complaining manner of people brings me on edge a lot. Maybe I should stop feeling attacked by everything and everyone, and not instantly assume someone flames me lol
@@ScruffyGGNot your fault. If he's going around spamming that on all poe videos, he's an idiot. If not, still an idiot for posting that for no reason.
@@yeahright420 youre just leaving a comment on a video saying "dont get baited guys" but then saying "im not calling THIS a bait build". Kind of a little punk move. You know exactly how people are going to take that comment. Or maybe youre an idiot and dont.
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Why does this video have 150 downvotes? It seems like a very solid guide to me?
It has a few flaws, and maybe I was too sarcastic for some people :/
@@ScruffyGG I think you did a great job, don't get discouraged and keep making guides.
the passive tree is kinda outdated
Guide was made with the PoB of 3.24, but with 3.25 in mind! I gonna look over it again and probably post an updated PoB soon
@@ScruffyGG thanks
Will you do any update on this build? Pobb isn't really useful since it's just endgame and nothing in between :D
i think i will not get an update ready in the next few days, will take a bit of time since i have all hands to do currently, not even playing the season right now. I would honestly suggest to look into Jungroan pconc build in the meantime. Wish i had any better answer :(
@@ScruffyGG hope you can play soon and relax for a bit! Do you think its possible to use Jungroans Tree but with Pathfinder?
Big thanks for your work
I came up with this exact build idea. Thanks to you I don't have to spend hours to figure out leveling and min maxing path! Awesome guide :)
I love to hear any suggestion and feedback! You might have a great idea you could throw at me
Sir. There is no more quartz infusion. Raider was deleted. Replacement ideas for that forbidden combo?
Oh fuck you are right! It was a long night prepping everything, I overlooked that! The Forbidden Flesh/Flame would be super expensive anyway, and are not included in the regular guide anyway. Lets check what Warden has to offer, and I will edit this post as soon as we looked into it! Thanks for the feedback, and sorry for the oversight
@@ScruffyGG 👍
I min-maxed PCOB to high hell this league and its my favorite skill now. The sound, look, feel, inbuilt power, tankyness, speed, and it being chaos damage just all came together so well. Not needing a main hand weapon is a positive when league starting, just once less slot/socket/link problem to worry about. Almost always run purity of elements also till you get ailment immunity some how later. Just great. IDK about no grace, this is gonna be odd but we have to see how the new armor bases workout.
what do u think about Fury Valve amulet? is it good alternative for early-mid game?
I did see your 3.24 pconc build last league, but I don't usually post comments. So I've decided to post one now for some encouragement! :)
Eitherway, was a great skill to use and really fun/fresh/new playstyle. Defo recommend others to try it as well (if not at league start, then at least later in the league).
Campaign and early mapping was pretty easy as well, and not having to worry about getting a decent weapon simplified things even more.
Appreciated!
put this together for early heist literal disappointment
Insane video, thanks
Do also look into Crouching_Tuna's Poison Conc version! He might have a more tankier build than I do
Cool cloak! Is that The Restless Ward or some microtransaction?
What are your thoughts on using the Vinespike Cordial annoint instead of Whispers of Doom?
Possibly with Inextricable Fate instead of Ralakesh's Impatience?
Though I suppose that might also mean taking Master Surgeon instead of Nature's Boon for Pathfinder so the cordial would be online more often.
I've seen some people recommend using a bunch of medium cluster jewels with "follow-through" on them. Have you by any chance compared the difference in damage with those? Curious what would be better as I am not knowledgable about how to use PoB properly still :D
How many Medium Cluster jewels can i put into a league starter before people will say "its too expensive". Follow Through will make your first bounces much stronger, especially if you go for even more projectiles
@@ScruffyGG I see, thanks for the reply! :)
What you think about Trickster or even Assassin for pconc?
Assassin would favor a more crit based build, which this one is definetly not. Trickster on the other hand might be a bit easier to build, but according to a quick check in PoB we lose a bit EHP and the flask convenience.
I wish I had a better answer now, but Assassin or Trickster does not convince me for Pconc
@@ScruffyGG make sense... i will try Assassin crit based, but still not sure about crit scalling T_T
Why would you do PF over Slayer? You gonna get merced in 17's.
first off tier 17's are getting a nerf, pathfinder can also scale endurance charges, the build is as cheap as a league starter can get without resorting to a minion build, and Pathfinder PCOB is a tested and mostly solved build. It can get players to red mapping on a budget, and if the player really wanted to, the build can be scaled further or used to farm up currencies for a more smooth mid-game budget. Slayer is not even in the same hemisphere for PCOB so I don't know what bait builds you have been browsing because slayer is better of with melee skills, avoiding other bait like bleeds.
Issue with playing a slayer on that note is everyone is playing melee and with flat damage removed along with attack speed scarcity, melee is going to have a fun time experiencing bow build prices. Most melee will get as league start realistically are 1 to 2 skills while the rest are behind mirrors and hundreds of divs, good luck with that. only real options are a spell-caster, minion build, or some kind of throwing on a realistic budget unless the player wants to be stuck in red maps until burnout happens before even making it off the leaguestart.
@@MarkFin9423 You wrote a lot and said very little. Why in the world would you stack endurance charges on a PF when you can do it on slayer and get free frenzy/afflicton charges for it lol. Also slayer and pf use the same gear so your gibberish rant about prices are very confusing.
hey man, sup? my plan is farm some blight... u think this build can handle?
Pcon of Bouncing is a great allrounder - As people like SpicySushi would say, its great overall, but "kinda boring to play". If you really want to hard-focus on Blight, i think there might be some better builds. When i farmed Blight actively a few seasons ago, i played Skeleton Mages and just afk'd in the middle. This was the best experience i had in Blight, sooo... The build can do Blight for sure, its just not the best Blight'er thats out there. That would be my advice
what major and minor god do you recommand for this build ?
Good question, should have mentioned it but I am in so much stress currently, and have probably over-rushed the videos. Soul of Ryslatha gives more Life Flask Charges which is actually quiet important
Got my sub 🤙🏻
since banner need to placed, i dont feel it useful. I'm never placed it or had a free slot to press the button
Oh, you are correct. War Banner during leveling needs to be scrapped from the list! Sorry it was a long night, maybe i shouldnt have rushed it so fast. War Banner does also only apply to melee attacks, which we dont have.
nobody buys a unique non 6L Body Armor because the damage you lose from missing a Support Gem is far greater than the damage you gain from having the unique in almost all cases. The assertion that Restless Wards are cheap because they don't cost anything with bad sockets is silly. Just use whatever 6L body armor you find on the ground and later a Dendrobate until you have currency.
Correct and based! Dont forget that restless ward will be a great double corrupt base (as stated in the video). Reason to state that Restless Ward is cheap is due to the fact that I experienced many TH-cam Commenters in the past that said "loool requires uniques for build" even tho they were evidently just 1c bases.
i didnt blame, algorithm never recomended. but now im here
might give it a shot, thanks!
Means this time you gonna suggest something bad again? As per your intro😂
It's a joke don't take it seriously, but seriously man I would love to try something new as I always have been going with bleed builds
I am cooking up a Flicker Strike build, atleast I am consistent with bad league starters :D
@@ScruffyGG flicker login
POB?!!!!
pob? would like to see
dont get baited guys, it is very annoying build.
How so?
@@naomi.kautzky in many ways. Concotion is not a projectile so for example you have to point exactly where you want to throw it because it fly over enemies, not like any other distance skill like bow skill. So you need to predict and hit enemy or it will bounce randomly. Another thing is you need to backtrack a lot for loot from enemies that will die behind you and enemies will have a lot of time to deal damage to you. As a ranger, you really do not want to let enemy to do actions but this build will make enemies punish you so much. Having also -1/-2 utility flasks is also extra annoying, especially as pathfinder. There are way better poison starter builds which do not have these issues. I started poisonous concotion 2 times. In Scourge and last league. Both starts were really not fun, clear was awful, same with damage - it was decent in acts but on maps it sucked so hard. Doing map 2-3 times longer because of fact you need to use skill few times more in all direction or because you miss (especially vs fast enemies) is really annoying. I had same feeling while playing traps but at least they had really good boss damage. If you really want to try it, go ahead, but just saying - everything looks cool on videos but usually it feel way different when you play it self.
Major hint, you can test it right now, If u are interessted
@@martinfraedrich3944 I tested it and it feels fine and many other people have made guides for it? Am I missing something here?
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Becareful of bait builds you guys. Do your research check the patch notes dont go in blind your going to regret it.
Can you explain how this is a bait build? most people endorse Pcon of Bouncing, the guide is updated from 3.24 to 3.25, and includes all changes. We even talk about patch notes.
@@ScruffyGG did I say it was i just warning people to do they own research I did not say at all that this was bait. I respect you scruffy sorry if it came off that I was projecting my comment towards your video. But no I was just helping stating what people should do to protect them selves from actuall bait.
As you might can guess from my intro, the overwhelming complaining manner of people brings me on edge a lot. Maybe I should stop feeling attacked by everything and everyone, and not instantly assume someone flames me lol
@@ScruffyGGNot your fault.
If he's going around spamming that on all poe videos, he's an idiot.
If not, still an idiot for posting that for no reason.
@@yeahright420 youre just leaving a comment on a video saying "dont get baited guys" but then saying "im not calling THIS a bait build". Kind of a little punk move. You know exactly how people are going to take that comment. Or maybe youre an idiot and dont.