Don't agree at all with the Ivan Rodriguez analysis. The position with knees outside the shoulders is a resting position, NOT a catching position. Blocking is also always with at least one knee down. If the knee isn't down, you're picking or scooping. Traditional catching starts in a resting stance, then the catcher shifts into an active/mobile position, and then reacts to the ball. That reaction can include getting a knee down to catch something low. OKD doesn't make that distinction between resting and active. It also puts the catcher in a less mobile position, which may or may not matter depeoon the individual catcher and individual pitcher.
Athletes are athletes, they are going to make plays regardless because they put themselves in athletic positions whether it's one knee down or not. The problem is we shouldn't be teaching this as a baseline because it literally adds extra unnecessary steps to playing the position. If the knee starts down and the player has to move, the knee needs to come up whether it's 2mm to slide or 16 inches to get up. If you are playing 150 games a year in the MLB and reading the play that the runner isn't going to steal and you wanna drop to a knee late in setup as the pitch is being delivered that's one thing. But highschool kids playing 40 games a year and getting setup super early with a knee down is a recipe for disaster.
lol, the arguments for didn't make sense. Just watch the college world series from last year and you will see plenty of examples of catchers trying to pick balls from one knee when they should be blocking with a runner is on third. There is a time and a place knee down catching and it isn't when you have a struggling pitcher in a tie game with a runner on 3rd. And it happened tonight. 8/21/23 Tiger vs Cubs. Tiger's Knee Down catcher tries to pick a ball on the down knee side because he can't block it there, heels it, and the runner on third scores. Tigers lost by 1.
Were they fastballs? You don't block fastball, you pick them. My guess is all your examples were simply fastballs the pitcher spiked, in which case, the catcher's setup is not relevant.
@@MH-Tesla that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. you want to risk your season on a catcher picking a baseball when you could easily block it, if your catcher can't block of fastball properly than you have a bad catcher.
I see your point but catchers before were giving up free base runners because they can not receive as good in a 2 foot position and therefore limiting their pitch framing ability which I could argue is more important especially with a struggling pitcher as one pitch could make the difference.
@@BobSchmidt good luck trying to block 95 mph fastballs... as someone who has caught 95 before, you simply cant move fast enough to block a spiked fastball.
OKD isn't lazy it causes laziness. OKD is used to make up for the lack of talent catching/framing the low ball. Same as the ridiculous exaggeration of "framing" ( which has never been bringing the ball back to the center of the zone). BTW...you did not explain any benefits to the OKD technique at all
great vid
and i am one of those catchers that absolutley love the one knee stance
Amazing 100 percent, I personally like to go back in forth with RKD and regular two feet depending on the situation
Don't agree at all with the Ivan Rodriguez analysis. The position with knees outside the shoulders is a resting position, NOT a catching position. Blocking is also always with at least one knee down. If the knee isn't down, you're picking or scooping. Traditional catching starts in a resting stance, then the catcher shifts into an active/mobile position, and then reacts to the ball. That reaction can include getting a knee down to catch something low. OKD doesn't make that distinction between resting and active. It also puts the catcher in a less mobile position, which may or may not matter depeoon the individual catcher and individual pitcher.
Great video man! Totally agree!
I like the vid and agree on the blocking aspects but can you discuss some of the throw downs pros cons aspect’s
Great video absolutely right
Athletes are athletes, they are going to make plays regardless because they put themselves in athletic positions whether it's one knee down or not. The problem is we shouldn't be teaching this as a baseline because it literally adds extra unnecessary steps to playing the position. If the knee starts down and the player has to move, the knee needs to come up whether it's 2mm to slide or 16 inches to get up. If you are playing 150 games a year in the MLB and reading the play that the runner isn't going to steal and you wanna drop to a knee late in setup as the pitch is being delivered that's one thing. But highschool kids playing 40 games a year and getting setup super early with a knee down is a recipe for disaster.
lol, the arguments for didn't make sense. Just watch the college world series from last year and you will see plenty of examples of catchers trying to pick balls from one knee when they should be blocking with a runner is on third. There is a time and a place knee down catching and it isn't when you have a struggling pitcher in a tie game with a runner on 3rd.
And it happened tonight. 8/21/23 Tiger vs Cubs. Tiger's Knee Down catcher tries to pick a ball on the down knee side because he can't block it there, heels it, and the runner on third scores. Tigers lost by 1.
Were they fastballs? You don't block fastball, you pick them. My guess is all your examples were simply fastballs the pitcher spiked, in which case, the catcher's setup is not relevant.
@@MH-Tesla that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. you want to risk your season on a catcher picking a baseball when you could easily block it, if your catcher can't block of fastball properly than you have a bad catcher.
I see your point but catchers before were giving up free base runners because they can not receive as good in a 2 foot position and therefore limiting their pitch framing ability which I could argue is more important especially with a struggling pitcher as one pitch could make the difference.
@@BobSchmidt good luck trying to block 95 mph fastballs... as someone who has caught 95 before, you simply cant move fast enough to block a spiked fastball.
Couldn’t they extend range by just having left knee down opposed to the right. Since your catching side is left
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Why would you advocate unbalanced range?
OKD isn't lazy it causes laziness. OKD is used to make up for the lack of talent catching/framing the low ball. Same as the ridiculous exaggeration of "framing" ( which has never been bringing the ball back to the center of the zone).
BTW...you did not explain any benefits to the OKD technique at all