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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com

    • @Nicksanchez1122
      @Nicksanchez1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J20 vs f22 BVR

    • @gerrybertacch6952
      @gerrybertacch6952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about some "No Step on Snek" under the GS Logo merch as appears on your website? It is so awesomely meta!

  • @Jr-uh2so
    @Jr-uh2so 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Probably one of the most creative sets of dogfights in a minute! That’s saying a lot, all the tricks were being pulled out of the bag today. Thanks again for the fix!

  • @tuga_ace
    @tuga_ace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Rule no.1 : The enemy is supposed to be in FRONT not in the REAR

    • @SparkySlow
      @SparkySlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He bleed speed in first Circle, he cant fly for shit

    • @sinxsideways5900
      @sinxsideways5900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SparkySlow bro shut the hell up every fight is different they have to jam the WEZ bc they have fox 2s. You know nothing

  • @bukhariali71
    @bukhariali71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Kudos to the Tomcat pilot. Very well flown. Keeping to its strength and not pushing its luck.

  • @riddlex
    @riddlex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    GS is pumping awesome videos everyday. So many variations to witness, great!

  • @tuga_ace
    @tuga_ace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Glad you're flying the fulcrum so often

  • @johnclark6139
    @johnclark6139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Loving the low merge fights, really shakes things up!

    • @lamalien2276
      @lamalien2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, they get dynamic really quickly.

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the most attractive things about GS's channel ethos is he often ends with he himself getting rekt by another pilot. The temptation to always appear as the winning Top Gun must be enormous and I applaud him for it.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hahah I’ve never set out to make people think I’m the best, very average, lots of guys better than me out there, I’m just here to have fun and make a few videos along the way. No shame in showing a loss.

    • @aryanjaiswal3110
      @aryanjaiswal3110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GrowlingSidewinder Pure Sigma male Rule- Never Hesitate in showing a Loss😉
      Love your vids GS so proud to be your subscriber❤️

    • @GM-fh5jp
      @GM-fh5jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GrowlingSidewinder The shame (if they feel any) is entirely attached to someone who refuses to acknowledge a loss or the talent of an adversary. It is your demenour here and the character you display in game that dictates the quality of your fans.
      Buttheads and trolls rarely last long at a quality site of which yours is one.

  • @Daniel-uw6wo
    @Daniel-uw6wo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    SR71 is slower than me when I get the GS video notification

  • @tonyrun5802
    @tonyrun5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just saying the quality of the content has rose up immensely lately, and it's always been high. From when u were doing dogfights to teach the main ideas of those fights, to BVR fights, consisting of pure skill, to now, doing more creative stuff. I love it, keep it up man!

  • @JordanOwnby
    @JordanOwnby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "He's supposed to be out front, not behind.." .. That IS kind of the idea 😆

  • @toast3976
    @toast3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love all the MiG-29 content, what an underappreciated plane

    • @charlienash1050
      @charlienash1050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is. I absolutely adore the Fulcrum

  • @01Z06guy
    @01Z06guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    This is the first time you really demonstrated offseting the circles to escape a losing rate fight. I know you have been really successful watching for them to pull lead, tightening down, and reversing, but as you have described it, you are relying on the opponent to be impatient or doing a poor job of managing the closure. Perhaps if you work on this offset technique you would not be as reliant on an opponent mistake. Or is this even easier for the opponent to counter if they see it and understand what you are doing? Perhaps you could display it in Tacview and explain your cues, goals, and actions.

    • @ViniKake
      @ViniKake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, please and thank you.

  • @youramazingvulptexwife4180
    @youramazingvulptexwife4180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "I thought I could bring him in closer."
    -Growling Maverick

  • @Rebellion1776
    @Rebellion1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your killing it with these MiG-29 vids! Keep them coming!

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "or the RATE fight" I love how GS still does that haha

  • @TurbineFlyer
    @TurbineFlyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Two of the best looking aircraft ever IMO. Along with the F4

    • @Simbirsk2130
      @Simbirsk2130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Su-37 is still better looking, and the rest of the Flanker family.

  • @nickhimaras9331
    @nickhimaras9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic video! The fights between the older jets, somehow are more impressive.
    Keep up the great work GS!

  • @Mobius118
    @Mobius118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never did I ever think I would hear about Venn Diagrams in the context of dogfighting XD
    Nice

  • @Tayuss79
    @Tayuss79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these videos it’s so hard to know what the hell is going on from films and stuff. Gives a real insight into what combat pilots actually have to do and think about. Well done. 👍🏻🤟

  • @pavlenikic9712
    @pavlenikic9712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the second round was amazing, dodging the fox 2 was so cool and then winning from there is like a scene from a movie. good games

  • @whalehands
    @whalehands 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 2nd round, that may have been one of the most exciting yet. I loved watching different tactics being used.

  • @charlesfollette9692
    @charlesfollette9692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After almost 50 yrs still a dangerous adversary

  • @takaharatanaka8818
    @takaharatanaka8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This US Army Rotary Wing Aviator to the computer game simulator pilot...
    You always crack me up!
    Thank you so much for the hard work making these videos!

  • @amorosogombe9650
    @amorosogombe9650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tomcat is such a bad ass plane. Grandpa kicking the whipper snappers into place at 50. Imagine if a modern day 'Super Tomcat' was built,with today's technology. It would be LETHAL.

  • @ConradsStudio
    @ConradsStudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you are about to do a desperate jink, an appropriate thing to say is, "I'll try spinning--that's a good trick!"

  • @annoti8887
    @annoti8887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice video dude, in my opinion, you are one of the best dcs content creators, love from Brazil

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you brother I really appreciate that

    • @AndreDiasRJ
      @AndreDiasRJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brazilian Warthunder players also watch you

  • @MikeIsTooCommonAName
    @MikeIsTooCommonAName 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'd love to see a video of you taking on an f22 or su57 or some other sort of "good/new" plane with you and a buddy in a 2v1. Maybe you and longshot in Hornets vs an f22? I don't really know much about how a 2v1 would go in close quarters. Even if it would be unfair, I'd still like to see it. Just an idea 🤷‍♂️ Thanks for the videos! Can tell you're working hard.
    Just sort of going in that same vein of "a fight isn't always fair and you don't always know what you'll merge with" from a couple videos ago.

    • @tonyrun5802
      @tonyrun5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tatch weave

    • @MikeIsTooCommonAName
      @MikeIsTooCommonAName 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Future-Preps35 I wonder if it was BVR? I was thinking more like in the merge. Still neat to hear! Very cool!

  • @Mike_Romeo
    @Mike_Romeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched you for like 2 years now and I still learn new things from you.

  • @madhvendrasingh1131
    @madhvendrasingh1131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful and enthralling this fight. Didn't know Mig-29 vs F-14 had such potential.
    Once again I like to mention, always love when u explain tactics with diagrams and stuff.

  • @spurgear4
    @spurgear4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the info.
    If I ever get in a dogfight with my old Piper Vegabond I will have a few tricks up my sleeve.

  • @garykirk1968
    @garykirk1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "See if we can force an overshoot", he immediately takes out both your engines.. Yeah, that's a good way to get him to pass you.. LOL

  • @merica_swimbaits
    @merica_swimbaits 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Round 2 was soo sick man! That was awesome to watch!

  • @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
    @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn that tomcat can really perform in the rate fight that was a slick roll over but he came around the 2 circle quick

  • @ЙцукенПетрович
    @ЙцукенПетрович 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "No worries" he said with both engines burning.

  • @TheStormHelix
    @TheStormHelix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:44 - "That Tomcat nose, man," that Tomcat knows!

  • @subhasishhore1575
    @subhasishhore1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't expect that F-14 could beat Mig-29 ! 😮

  • @ViniKake
    @ViniKake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "You should try spinning, that's a good trick!" - Bananakin Skywalker

  • @badasstasticusbadass4908
    @badasstasticusbadass4908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both the Tomcat and the Fulcrum are very capable aircrafts, in a 1 vs 1 situation, the pilot's skill would be the deciding factor.

    • @matej1016
      @matej1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      true i think GS is better in USA planes than in Russians

    • @badasstasticusbadass4908
      @badasstasticusbadass4908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matej1016 I feel like the russian aircrafts are a bit underpowered compared to the U.S ones in DCS.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badasstasticusbadass4908 I agree, I also think the mig 29 under preforms in a 1 circle, or may not be correctly modeled.

  • @7Dunkan7
    @7Dunkan7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very fun to watch, loving your content! I always love seeing a Tomcat in the thumbnail.

  • @alexanderterekhin8927
    @alexanderterekhin8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesomely creative move when you went into the mountains - kudos!

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, in that first round the Cat was "polishing the cannonball" with his delayed gunfire.
    I reckon he had you cold at least twice before the actual kill.

    • @GM-fh5jp
      @GM-fh5jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pogo1140 True, but as a fan of deflection shooting I feel it is an underated art these days.The high deflection attack is easy to miss coming at you because it's not encountered so often.Yes, it is alow percentage shot when done badly but when done right it's like a fist you don't see coming. I love watching an enemy fly into a well aimed deflection stream...it's a thing of beauty :)

  • @yusefa3100
    @yusefa3100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:23 Look at him go, What a majestic plane
    I'm glad Shah decided to go with F-14 instead of F-15 in the 70s.
    Tnx for trying F-14 and other Iranian version planes once in a while.

  • @drexchan
    @drexchan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 29s used to be giving our 18d boys some hard time until they are retired from the service. What I heard is that the two Sqn literally don't talk to each other. Now it's 30-MKM that's enjoying the limelight.

  • @casesully50
    @casesully50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two of the prettiest airplanes ever made destroying each other. Such a shame.

  • @Gozar111
    @Gozar111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Left engine fire! Ok. We’re ok….”😂😂

  • @blackrat1228
    @blackrat1228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second match was great, adapted really quickly as everything developed.

  • @mikeropaynus410
    @mikeropaynus410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    F-14 thrust vectoring upgraded engines to top performance and electrical platforms for 5th gen fighters…… we have a basic idea what the lead angel of god Gabriel looks like

  • @o5unclebob
    @o5unclebob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ˝If you intend to win, you must not lose˝ -Alan Ford

  • @v-m-a-p
    @v-m-a-p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That second fight was amazing! Would have been a great tacview, beautiful to watch.

  • @scottp6481
    @scottp6481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the seismic charges scene of star wars attack of the clones last night and saw that part where Obi wan lost visual on Jengo Fett and Jengo got on Obi wan's six and started pouring blaster fire into him. I saw Obi-wan start reversing the turns and my mind automatically inserted GS' voice "taking him into the one circle.... Into the rolling scissors"

  • @jpierce2l33t
    @jpierce2l33t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GS is gonna take at least one round, no matter WHAT he's flying or WHAT he's flying against 😂🤣 love it dude!

  • @steveb6127
    @steveb6127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Tomcat on your six is both a beautiful and scary site!

  • @kevinmccarthy8746
    @kevinmccarthy8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE YOUR SHOW. I was thinking about all this work it must take to produce your show, and the amazing amount of information that you juggle to win the day.

  • @metalmad89
    @metalmad89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So essentially the U.S need to put a glass cockpit in the tomcat and get it back into service

  • @melgillham462
    @melgillham462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Echoes of Merlin in topgun.."You're gonna do WHAT!?"🤣

  • @edwardsarty9572
    @edwardsarty9572 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Where did he go? Where did who go?😂😂😂

  • @cademosley4886
    @cademosley4886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intense match-up! I could really feel the pf moments especially for this one.

  • @hotshot56371
    @hotshot56371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video today man, I'd love to see more about offsetting the two-circle

  • @stinkyfungus
    @stinkyfungus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I request more "two idiots"
    Watching you two knuckleheads playing off each other pleases me.
    The 1v1 tactical vids are action... but sometimes, just sometimes - comedy is what i crave.

  • @spacedonkey3412
    @spacedonkey3412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks like flying the MiG29 is really honing your skills

  • @parrotlander
    @parrotlander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:16 "You dare use my own moves against me?!"

  • @peterweller8583
    @peterweller8583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is an outstanding plan that will survive contact with realty.
    GS never disappoints in either case.

  • @linusrunge2678
    @linusrunge2678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive never seen someone love a plane as much as you love the mig-29... But I love it

  • @hellcat611
    @hellcat611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Tomcat pilot in this video. Not sure I could have kept a Tomcat in the air during those rolling scissors.

  • @nimaiiikun
    @nimaiiikun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the F-14 has been dominating in your vids

  • @xviii6113
    @xviii6113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:09 Wow that Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 really doesn’t mess around. The quote "it is reported to be extremely accurate as well as powerful" may be very true after all.

  • @ajtabbilos
    @ajtabbilos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slammer would be proud on the tomcat driver.

  • @beatboxbuggi6884
    @beatboxbuggi6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GS you should do a video showing what your top favorite planes to fly are

    • @annoti8887
      @annoti8887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he already made a video like this

  • @doncalypso
    @doncalypso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason I would've assumed that in a turn-and-burn within-visual-range dogfight the MiG-29 would be more nimble and dominate the F-14 with its higher thrust-to-weight ratio...

    • @UUUU-dn9wz
      @UUUU-dn9wz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If fox2s were allowed in any situation in this fights the mig29 would have won all of them, especially with the R73+ HMD

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ^ this is correct, as soon as you allow the Mig to use its HMD and the AA-11 Archer the Tomcat is Toast.

    • @doncalypso
      @doncalypso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UUUU-dn9wz I was thinking strictly in terms of gunfighting... but yes, I did know the MiG-29 had High Off-Boresight missiles since a long time ago.

    • @doncalypso
      @doncalypso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrowlingSidewinder question is do the Iranians have that missile and HMD capability in their MiG-29s though?

    • @UUUU-dn9wz
      @UUUU-dn9wz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doncalypso in terms of gunfighting at an altitude this low it has no chance. If the fight started at higher altitudes the MiG would have many more chances in the 1 circle to kill the tomcat

  • @Happykyo
    @Happykyo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:39
    Mig 29: *screams like a girl* Mister tomcat Have mercy have mercy im sorry!! Wahhhh!!
    Tomchad: **NO** *Kills the russian Girl*
    Mig 29: Cyka Blyat о, мамочка! AHHHH!!!!

  • @thermite10k40
    @thermite10k40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first Mig-29 was shot down by an Iranian F14 using an AIM-23 missile which is a MIM-23 Hawk missile modified to be used instead of the AIM-54 since the Iranians were low on Phoenixes late war.

  • @betterbackwards2701
    @betterbackwards2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic use of everything!

  • @Hustler9g
    @Hustler9g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool to see something like a community fight night where you fight with viewers or they fight with each other and you break down the fight. Idk just something I'd be interested in seeing

  • @Jay_the_AV8R
    @Jay_the_AV8R 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing content, but don’t get burned out GS!

  • @musun123-f5w
    @musun123-f5w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. Amazing fight dude. GS is such a difficult opponent even as underdog.

  • @Curtis.maddie
    @Curtis.maddie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely amazing content! Would love to see the tacview on how you offset the circles in a rate fight

  • @XCougar85X
    @XCougar85X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video again. Quite surprised the Mig-29 isn't a lot better. Always thought the 29 would be a lot better then the Tomcat in a dogfight.

    • @DrittAdrAtta
      @DrittAdrAtta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In reality, it is :)

  • @Sgt.Lincoln_Osiris
    @Sgt.Lincoln_Osiris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd round is the best fight in my opinion, the use of terrain for tactical advantage.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is that less careful people want to see in War Thunder LOL I just can not imagine how these jets will be ''Gaijinized''.

  • @muyangcheng3874
    @muyangcheng3874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a tacview on the offset 2-circle!

  • @rezakoochaki156
    @rezakoochaki156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an iranian. Thanks for the video. Welcome to my home guys.

  • @ivanski28
    @ivanski28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like an explanation of why a larger aircraft like the tomcat can outrate a fulcrum. Thrust to weight is better in the fulcrum as well max g-load, wing loading is lower in the tomcat maybe?

    • @westwindsailer
      @westwindsailer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand it either..but it's the modelling I guess, not reality?

  • @Mobius118
    @Mobius118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what would be interesting? A merge at 35,000 feet, or even one at Angels 40. Might change things up a bit, who knows?

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Thanks for vid, very informative!!*

  • @a-zprojects6056
    @a-zprojects6056 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was intense that cats nose omg

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fights! Thanks guys :)

  • @Randomguy-sq5sj
    @Randomguy-sq5sj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a very interesting fight nice video!

  • @maybesherlock734
    @maybesherlock734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good one GS ..... can you talk about moves against superior fightr in 1 circle as well in next videos? how about them?

  • @MaverickM1
    @MaverickM1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cat is just a fantastic plane. It is a supersonic bomber sized stuff and still capable of win dogfight against the best interceptors of the era. And we have no D variant which is even more deadly just for sure. Super Tomcat for the people Heatblur, pleeeeease.

  • @benharris705
    @benharris705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched a video yesterday about a planned tomcat that got dropped. Didn't know if you could do one for the DCS. It was stealth, thrust vectoring the works. Still had the f14 look. Pretty cool if you never heard about it.

  • @larikauranen2159
    @larikauranen2159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose the tactics from round 2 does diddle squat against the raptor and felon?

  • @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
    @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn my man is really goin in on the mig29 goin up against his old fav the f14

  • @heatblast876
    @heatblast876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To growling sidewinder can you make a MIG 35 a cockpit model an upgrade version of mig 29 so I really just wanted to know that how mig 35 is really good at capable in dogfight as well as in BVR match.

    • @KingMen1Force
      @KingMen1Force 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are no mods currently for MiG35 unfortunately but in dogfights it would improve where the 29 lacks. It would get less drag, bigger wings so tighter turns , better sustained /radius turns, more thrust and a FBW. So it would make it one of the best if not the best dog fighter in DCS currently excluding other mods.
      BVR wise it would be on par with any other 4.5+ gen fighters.

  • @JamisonMK3
    @JamisonMK3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t quite understand how you create the offset 2 circle. Do you just continually tighten down and accept the loss of speed as a reasonable risk?

  • @DavidOfWhitehills
    @DavidOfWhitehills 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cut paste, asides like this should be slotted into action movies.

  • @tuga_ace
    @tuga_ace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the name of the song that plays during the kill replay

  • @raketny_hvost
    @raketny_hvost ปีที่แล้ว

    10:05 at that moment i was almost screaming "KILL HIM, CMON!!!"

  • @Jinx19766
    @Jinx19766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im not sure when i learn more. When you slash a bandit? or when you get splashed? Both are pretty valuable to new drivers

  • @ramtin-s8722
    @ramtin-s8722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really exciting