I've had my 2023 G70 3.3t AWD for almost a year now (EverydayDriver's videos were a huge help when I was shopping! Thanks guys!). Can confirm the passenger seat buttons and general interior are wonderful. Ventilated seats are great in the summer. The paddle-shifted automatic with different drive modes took a bit of time to get comfortable with after many years of manual transmissions. The gas mileage is exactly what you'd expect for a heavy, twin-turbo GT car but the handling is excellent despite it. Overall I'm very happy with the G70 because it feels like Genesis is "trying harder" than a lot of other car makers and giving you a better car for the $$$. Side note: I think a lot of 2.0 liter engines are made in order to fly under tax laws in certain global markets?
I have a 2020 3.3T RWD and absolutely love it! I think Genesis' styling is head of the class across the entire product line, and they get the mix of buttons and screens in the interior just perfect. You guys noted Audi as a comparison, and I used to drive Audis, but so many brands are too touch screen dependent. It's so nice to have analog buttons and knobs for the things that you need to tweak without having to be distracted while scrolling and swiping. Overall the G70 is quick, stylish, luxurious and great to drive. It's a true hidden gem in today's market.
Nice summary. I really wanted the Stinger, but by the time ready to buy the car this last January none left. I really do like the 2.5T and have the non AWD. Genesis puts some real thought into their cars. I especially like the driver access to the passenger seat controls.
This actually might make sense given that it's a new design with not much data upon which to assess its durability. By the time they're commonly available coming off lease we should have a much better idea of whether this engine is a solid design.
I think you guys would enjoy the 2.5 in RWD. I have a 3.3, and had a 2.5 for a couple days when i caught a rock on the freeway and had to get a new windshield. The lighter front end on the 2.5 is noticeable in turns and feels a little bit more nimble. The 2.5 has good power but is a bit unresponsive off the line. Until it builds boost and the transmission spins up there is noticeable delay. The 3.3 is worlds more responsive from a stop.
Great video guys! Bought my 2023 G70 2.0L RWD in December - just before the base engine change. Definitely wish I had more power but the smaller engine is adequate. The lighter engine and rwd make it super fun to drive and more “chuckable” in the corners. Hopefully there will be a performance hybrid option they drop in the G70 2.5L in the future. Back space is indeed tight. My 9 year old complains about it 😂 BUT, I did get 2 average sized guys in the back seats on a 20 min drive to lunch and they were comfortable.
Agreed even with all-wheel drive system is not that bad however sometimes in the highway especially when it comes to try to race somebody you do wish you had a little more boost. But then again with the aftermarket support and playing around the computer system you probably can increase that.
Thanks for the great review guys. Your previous reviews of the 3.3T I found only after I had already bought mine, but they were spot on accurate in describing how pleasant the car is. I've had a great experience with mine in the first 12,000 miles, but I have a large, good-quality dealer with a car-guy service manager and two car-guy assistant service managers, so they have been great on service so far. Not everyone is so lucky, apparently.
I had one as a rental recently. 2.5T AWD, though probably a lower-end trim. I dig it. It feels really nice with all the inputs and is pretty smooth and quiet. The turbo lag was perhaps the only bummer. But it was petty powerful.
I recently rented a G70 AWD (2.5L Turbo) and put 1800 miles on it (NC - VT RT). It was great. I didn't even notice the tach direction. Can't remember the last time I had passengers in the back seat so not an issue. The small trunk was an issue but I discovered the rear seats folded so that helps accommodate multiple golf bags. The new 2.5 base engine had all I need. I averaged 34 MPG on my trip. My current car takes regular gas so I didn't like having to pay $0.75 - $1.00/gal. more for premium. The Monroney sticker was in the trunk. This car had NO options and felt very well equiped to me. If I were in the market for a new car the G70 would be at the top of the list.
Great review. I have always bought new, but with the slim pickings on the compact-ish sport sedan front, the previous MT 2.0l G70 keeps looking better to me. Yes, the clutch is weird, the stick is rubbery and the back seat is tight. Still….
Hi, from Japan!! I always learn how Genesis cars like and how good they are from you. I hope Genesis starts market in Japan. Basically, most of Japanese are not interested in or I should say that they think Korean cars are not reliable. However, I think Korean makers have been becoming good and reliable car makers. By the way, I love the moment Paul uses “swath” instead of “spot”. I learned the word “swath” from this film. What a great show it is!!
@@jbm0866I’m glad. I’m Mazda owner, too. Mazda3 is a very good car, I think. I also envy 2.5 turbo is available in North America. 1.8 turbo is the max set for Mazda3 here in Japan. Thank you for the reply.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for Korean cars to be sold in Japan. Major historic and racial issues involved. Japan doesn’t like foreign cars in Japan. Tariffs are very high. Try to buy an American car in Japan. 🙄
Regarding putting the vehicle in park honestly I never did that I just turned the car off, open the door and it did it automatically. I really wish they would include a snow or winter mode, don't get me wrong the overdrive system is amazing but I would rather have a dedicated snow mode. Honestly I don't understand although the stinger is dead they can easily make the g70 into a shooting brake. And yes! Genesis has replaced Infiniti, Saldly
Proud owner of a 2019 3.3T AWD G70. You're absolutely right about rear leg space; it is tight! I look at this car as more a coupe that happens to have 4 doors. And as you noted, it is a problem for most vehicles in this category. Go sit in a TLX or IS and they're just as bad. But these are SPORT sedans. And regarding the seats, while I can't speak on the 2.5, every 3.3 has 16-way adjustable seats, including thigh support and bolstering. I found them the most comfortable of all its rivals, excepting the Volvo V60. Lastly, I agree that the AWD is occasionally unpredictable, which has been disappointing. But the good thing is that the car feels very RWD even w/ AWD, unlike Audis and Acuras. Regardless, these cars are screaming deals, especially used, and have been shown to be much more reliable than the German competition.
A viable alternative to the German market. Awesome segment! I wonder if the larger displacement will help with longevity of the system. Ie. a 2.5 with 300hp doesn’t have to work as hard as a 2.0 with the same output. Bigger engine= less stress.
I own a 2023. G70 Advance with the 2,0L , very satisfied with the fuel economy, performance ( it offers and that i need), the only annoying issues are the Park button, the HVAC control in the screen for 2023,leg room in the rear seat, the GPS system from factory compared to Google,. I am at over 20,000 kilometers ( 12,000 in the U.S. ) in Canada it comes with a courtesy car and free maintenance for 5 years. The car looks good, rides great, well equipped for the price and decent for regular daily driving person. No négociation on price, includes transport. All the Genesis dealers have the same price, no haggling, no extra for colors.
Not really sure why you would even use the OEM GPS when you can just use your phone to get Google Maps or Apple Maps which are essentially a live service
It's the price now of what the car was with a 3.5T a few years ago. My brother got a 2022 Stinger GT-Line AWD (this engine) brand new for $42k and that was with the Sunroof and HK audio. So it was under $40k new without that package, $49k is an absolute deal breaker.
I liked the 2.0T RWD. I liked the real exhaust tips that exited a single side. I liked the serviceability. I think the 2025 models have the colors this year which to me is the big selling point. Car journos tend to not understand the common consumer. When they say it needed that extra horsepower, the average consumer would think the 2.0T was enough. I think the sidewall could be more on these vehicles.
Yeah the I6 turbo has some silly engineering. You need to PULL the motor to change the turbo or to do the timing chain. That’s just a start. I wouldn’t go near that motor. Not a motor made to last. But hey, go for it.
Question for you. I owned a 2020 Stinger GT2 for 2.5 years. In 2022's crazy market, I sold it for what I'd paid for it. I waited a while for the market to cool down because I worked from home. I bought (my second one) a Golf Alltrack in 2023. My Stinger, in GT2 trim, was probably my favorite car I've owned. I really loved it. I took it on multiple 1000 mile road trips. I've thought about trying to replace it with as low mileage a used one as I can in 2025. By then, the G70 2.5 will also be available as a used car. Would you buy a used Stinger GT2 or a used G70 2.5? The Stinger will be older, but it'll have that delightful 3.3 twin turbo V6. I get that you like the G70 with the 2.5, but is it really nearly as good as that V6?
I do love this car, almost bought one but decided against it. Unfortunately i want it to be reliable but just isnt. 95% of people report brutal rattling throughout interior especially on hot days, engine had a recall where turbos leak and may cause enhine fires, chrome goes cloudy and needs replacement, electronics and very glitchy after a bit and arent covered under warranty, leather seat durability is very poor. On top of that, i also really hate how they use hyundai interior parts in a car that costs 3x as much. I dont want to see kona or sonata dials/sat navs in my 60k$ car.
You answered my key question: Do I need the 3.3T? Based on your commentary, I’m pretty sure I don’t. I’m not a NASCAR driver, but I do want a fun to drive car. Sounds like the 2.5T is enough. But I heard there’s still no wireless Apple CarPlay in 2025. Can anyone verify that? Thanks.
Bummer, no hi five. Great job, as always, fellas! That G70 reminds me of my totaled 2008 Mazda6 as you guys discuss the handling. Mine was just the naturally aspirated 2.5L, therefore underpowered, but it was dynamically fun to drive.
The G70 is a solid choice in this segment. I only wish they could have updated the interior a bit more. The half analog half digital dash is odd. The V6 version is a great competitor to the TL Type S, S4, M340.
I bought a 2024 G70 (went with the 3.3 RWD) in April and a coworker bought a Giulia about the same time. The Giulia has now been in the shop 3 times for at least a week each time.
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Just wait ten years when you need parts. Transmission sensors etc. Korean companies are horrible about parts availability. 2.5 liters is not a sport engine. No sale.
Man all of these sports sedans are a joke. My accord has a 2.0 turbo tuned to 310hp and 370lbft of torque. And weighs 3300lb. With everything stock by the way. Sway bars only. This stuff is just a joke for "sports" sedans. 4k pounds??? Makes a Camry feel light and nimble
And your tuned Accord has no chance of putting that power down thru the front wheels. It would get crushed by the old 2.0L G70 from a dig. And it'd be even worse in the bends!🤣
I've had my 2023 G70 3.3t AWD for almost a year now (EverydayDriver's videos were a huge help when I was shopping! Thanks guys!). Can confirm the passenger seat buttons and general interior are wonderful. Ventilated seats are great in the summer. The paddle-shifted automatic with different drive modes took a bit of time to get comfortable with after many years of manual transmissions. The gas mileage is exactly what you'd expect for a heavy, twin-turbo GT car but the handling is excellent despite it. Overall I'm very happy with the G70 because it feels like Genesis is "trying harder" than a lot of other car makers and giving you a better car for the $$$.
Side note: I think a lot of 2.0 liter engines are made in order to fly under tax laws in certain global markets?
I second everything you said. I have the same car/year but in rear wheel drive.
I have a 2020 3.3T RWD and absolutely love it! I think Genesis' styling is head of the class across the entire product line, and they get the mix of buttons and screens in the interior just perfect. You guys noted Audi as a comparison, and I used to drive Audis, but so many brands are too touch screen dependent. It's so nice to have analog buttons and knobs for the things that you need to tweak without having to be distracted while scrolling and swiping. Overall the G70 is quick, stylish, luxurious and great to drive. It's a true hidden gem in today's market.
Nice summary. I really wanted the Stinger, but by the time ready to buy the car this last January none left. I really do like the 2.5T and have the non AWD. Genesis puts some real thought into their cars. I especially like the driver access to the passenger seat controls.
I will make sure to purchase this vehicle in 3 years when the depreciation take place. It will be an amazing used car to purchase.
Yeah this would make a compelling $25k-30k purchase
It's a steal in the used vehicle market
This actually might make sense given that it's a new design with not much data upon which to assess its durability. By the time they're commonly available coming off lease we should have a much better idea of whether this engine is a solid design.
You don't have to wait 3 years on a Genesis. They are phenomenal cars, but 18 months later you can get a steal, CPO with a longer warranty than new.
@@MLHuntthis engine has been around several years. It's solid. Car is almost entirely unchanged since 2022.
I think you guys would enjoy the 2.5 in RWD. I have a 3.3, and had a 2.5 for a couple days when i caught a rock on the freeway and had to get a new windshield.
The lighter front end on the 2.5 is noticeable in turns and feels a little bit more nimble.
The 2.5 has good power but is a bit unresponsive off the line. Until it builds boost and the transmission spins up there is noticeable delay.
The 3.3 is worlds more responsive from a stop.
I love that rear windshield mounted camera, it gives a great sense of what it's like to be in the G70 - it's a nice touch.
Great video guys! Bought my 2023 G70 2.0L RWD in December - just before the base engine change. Definitely wish I had more power but the smaller engine is adequate.
The lighter engine and rwd make it super fun to drive and more “chuckable” in the corners. Hopefully there will be a performance hybrid option they drop in the G70 2.5L in the future.
Back space is indeed tight. My 9 year old complains about it 😂
BUT, I did get 2 average sized guys in the back seats on a 20 min drive to lunch and they were comfortable.
Agreed even with all-wheel drive system is not that bad however sometimes in the highway especially when it comes to try to race somebody you do wish you had a little more boost. But then again with the aftermarket support and playing around the computer system you probably can increase that.
I totally agree, I regret getting my 2.0t, especially with this new update considering the power bump is significant.
Thanks for the great review guys. Your previous reviews of the 3.3T I found only after I had already bought mine, but they were spot on accurate in describing how pleasant the car is. I've had a great experience with mine in the first 12,000 miles, but I have a large, good-quality dealer with a car-guy service manager and two car-guy assistant service managers, so they have been great on service so far. Not everyone is so lucky, apparently.
Great review and information!! I love the car 🙂
Because of you guys I got myself a 2020 Stinger with the 3.3 last year. Amazing car! Thank you Paul and Todd!
Nice. The Stinger is one of the most underrated cars of the last 5 years. 👍
Any problems so far? Have a few used one come up on my local area and have been really interested.
@phanthomboy3 Previous owner had a leadfoot, so had to swap out the brakes. But no other issues.
I just got this exact car in saville silver. I love driving it. The features are awesome. My first genesis
I bought this exact car to replace my 19 Stinger. I agree great car decent gas mileage and fun to drive.
I had one as a rental recently. 2.5T AWD, though probably a lower-end trim. I dig it. It feels really nice with all the inputs and is pretty smooth and quiet. The turbo lag was perhaps the only bummer. But it was petty powerful.
I recently rented a G70 AWD (2.5L Turbo) and put 1800 miles on it (NC - VT RT). It was great. I didn't even notice the tach direction. Can't remember the last time I had passengers in the back seat so not an issue. The small trunk was an issue but I discovered the rear seats folded so that helps accommodate multiple golf bags. The new 2.5 base engine had all I need. I averaged 34 MPG on my trip. My current car takes regular gas so I didn't like having to pay $0.75 - $1.00/gal. more for premium. The Monroney sticker was in the trunk. This car had NO options and felt very well equiped to me. If I were in the market for a new car the G70 would be at the top of the list.
Great review. I have always bought new, but with the slim pickings on the compact-ish sport sedan front, the previous MT 2.0l G70 keeps looking better to me. Yes, the clutch is weird, the stick is rubbery and the back seat is tight. Still….
It's a nice vehicle. Won car of the year when it came out in 2019. It's been under the radar since.
Hi, from Japan!! I always learn how Genesis cars like and how good they are from you. I hope Genesis starts market in Japan. Basically, most of Japanese are not interested in or I should say that they think Korean cars are not reliable. However, I think Korean makers have been becoming good and reliable car makers. By the way, I love the moment Paul uses “swath” instead of “spot”. I learned the word “swath” from this film. What a great show it is!!
So are you saying Hyundai and Kia arent sold in Japan, or just Genesis?
@@jbm0866Few Hyundai cars are available in Japan but no Kia and Genesis are available so far. Thank you for the message!!
@@mkei8973 I prefer Japanese cars (Mazda is my brand, 2021 Mazda 3 turbo hatchback) but Genesis is true luxury for a lower price than the Germans.
@@jbm0866I’m glad. I’m Mazda owner, too. Mazda3 is a very good car, I think. I also envy 2.5 turbo is available in North America. 1.8 turbo is the max set for Mazda3 here in Japan. Thank you for the reply.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for Korean cars to be sold in Japan. Major historic and racial issues involved. Japan doesn’t like foreign cars in Japan. Tariffs are very high. Try to buy an American car in Japan. 🙄
Regarding putting the vehicle in park honestly I never did that I just turned the car off, open the door and it did it automatically.
I really wish they would include a snow or winter mode, don't get me wrong the overdrive system is amazing but I would rather have a dedicated snow mode.
Honestly I don't understand although the stinger is dead they can easily make the g70 into a shooting brake.
And yes! Genesis has replaced Infiniti,
Saldly
Love Paul's "Sweet Swath of Power"!
Proud owner of a 2019 3.3T AWD G70. You're absolutely right about rear leg space; it is tight! I look at this car as more a coupe that happens to have 4 doors. And as you noted, it is a problem for most vehicles in this category. Go sit in a TLX or IS and they're just as bad. But these are SPORT sedans.
And regarding the seats, while I can't speak on the 2.5, every 3.3 has 16-way adjustable seats, including thigh support and bolstering. I found them the most comfortable of all its rivals, excepting the Volvo V60.
Lastly, I agree that the AWD is occasionally unpredictable, which has been disappointing. But the good thing is that the car feels very RWD even w/ AWD, unlike Audis and Acuras. Regardless, these cars are screaming deals, especially used, and have been shown to be much more reliable than the German competition.
A viable alternative to the German market. Awesome segment!
I wonder if the larger displacement will help with longevity of the system. Ie. a 2.5 with 300hp doesn’t have to work as hard as a 2.0 with the same output. Bigger engine= less stress.
I own a 2023. G70 Advance with the 2,0L , very satisfied with the fuel economy, performance ( it offers and that i need), the only annoying issues are the Park button, the HVAC control in the screen for 2023,leg room in the rear seat, the GPS system from factory compared to Google,. I am at over 20,000 kilometers ( 12,000 in the U.S. ) in Canada it comes with a courtesy car and free maintenance for 5 years. The car looks good, rides great, well equipped for the price and decent for regular daily driving person. No négociation on price, includes transport. All the Genesis dealers have the same price, no haggling, no extra for colors.
Not really sure why you would even use the OEM GPS when you can just use your phone to get Google Maps or Apple Maps which are essentially a live service
@@MrValy128 i am not using the OEM GPS but i paid for it and it's not efficient.
Would you recommend the G70 2.5T or the Cadillac CT4 2.7T ?
sounds like an interesting comparo!
Great reviews guys!
I'd love a crisp high five every driver switch please. 🫸🏻🫷🏻
It's the price now of what the car was with a 3.5T a few years ago. My brother got a 2022 Stinger GT-Line AWD (this engine) brand new for $42k and that was with the Sunroof and HK audio. So it was under $40k new without that package, $49k is an absolute deal breaker.
Is the genesis worth the jump from the stinger?
Still loving my 2020 stinger gt line....2.0 t is enough for us! thx
I liked the 2.0T RWD. I liked the real exhaust tips that exited a single side. I liked the serviceability. I think the 2025 models have the colors this year which to me is the big selling point. Car journos tend to not understand the common consumer. When they say it needed that extra horsepower, the average consumer would think the 2.0T was enough. I think the sidewall could be more on these vehicles.
Koreans are killing it. Period
Sucker. Good luck. 😂
How is the road noise?
I can't wait for Mazda to jump back into this segment with their new I-6
Yeah the I6 turbo has some silly engineering. You need to PULL the motor to change the turbo or to do the timing chain. That’s just a start. I wouldn’t go near that motor. Not a motor made to last. But hey, go for it.
@@FYMASMD Unless it's built by GM, there shouldn't be any need to change a timing chain for well over a decade. Same with the turbos.
That 2.5 will beat is350 easily
Question for you. I owned a 2020 Stinger GT2 for 2.5 years. In 2022's crazy market, I sold it for what I'd paid for it. I waited a while for the market to cool down because I worked from home. I bought (my second one) a Golf Alltrack in 2023. My Stinger, in GT2 trim, was probably my favorite car I've owned. I really loved it. I took it on multiple 1000 mile road trips. I've thought about trying to replace it with as low mileage a used one as I can in 2025. By then, the G70 2.5 will also be available as a used car. Would you buy a used Stinger GT2 or a used G70 2.5? The Stinger will be older, but it'll have that delightful 3.3 twin turbo V6. I get that you like the G70 with the 2.5, but is it really nearly as good as that V6?
Buy a Lexus. It’s actually worth the money. Korean cars are a waste of money.
@@FYMASMD Go away, troll.
I do love this car, almost bought one but decided against it. Unfortunately i want it to be reliable but just isnt. 95% of people report brutal rattling throughout interior especially on hot days, engine had a recall where turbos leak and may cause enhine fires, chrome goes cloudy and needs replacement, electronics and very glitchy after a bit and arent covered under warranty, leather seat durability is very poor. On top of that, i also really hate how they use hyundai interior parts in a car that costs 3x as much. I dont want to see kona or sonata dials/sat navs in my 60k$ car.
The AR Guilia with this would be another good comparison again.
You answered my key question: Do I need the 3.3T? Based on your commentary, I’m pretty sure I don’t. I’m not a NASCAR driver, but I do want a fun to drive car. Sounds like the 2.5T is enough.
But I heard there’s still no wireless Apple CarPlay in 2025. Can anyone verify that? Thanks.
We live in an era when EV sports sedans can be leased or bought for less than ICE sports sedans. I'm glad I chose a Polestar 2.
Enjoy your "EV sports sedan" 😂
@@doudymac Thanks. I do every day.
Gotta get the 3.3t with this car.
The extended warranty too
3,800lbs for a sport sedan in todays market is excellent??? M2 nowadays is 3,800lbs
If i were going to buy a questionably reliable sports sedan i'd rather have an Alfa. Or even an Acura Integra type S. Just saying.
Bummer, no hi five. Great job, as always, fellas! That G70 reminds me of my totaled 2008 Mazda6 as you guys discuss the handling. Mine was just the naturally aspirated 2.5L, therefore underpowered, but it was dynamically fun to drive.
I'm surprised the 2.5T and 3.3T AWD model doesn't have +10 more horsepower compared to the RWD model. 🤔
Goatie's input hurts
The G70 is a solid choice in this segment. I only wish they could have updated the interior a bit more. The half analog half digital dash is odd. The V6 version is a great competitor to the TL Type S, S4, M340.
lol, the B58 in the M340 is on a whole ‘nother level. No comparison here.
@@AnontheGOAT and that car starts wayyy higher MSRP
@@AnontheGOATlol, cost difference? Cmon bro.
@@biglee13m there’s a reason for that
@@bassandtrebleclef and for good reason bro
Having the tach move backwards drives me nuts..!! Its a trend that needs to stop.
@0:28 "this car remains" no. Genesis said they're discontinuing the g70 line too. 1 of the dumbest decisions they've ever made
nope
They never had a five cylinder.
Paul is asking for one, musing it - not claiming they had one before.
@@TestDriveVideos It should be a five cylinder twin turbo.
Alfa Romeo Giulia wants to 1v1 the G70.
I bought a 2024 G70 (went with the 3.3 RWD) in April and a coworker bought a Giulia about the same time.
The Giulia has now been in the shop 3 times for at least a week each time.
Lets go
Had the Giulia offered a mid-tier V6 like the M340 or G70 3.3T, I would've bought the Alfa. As they didn't I happily 'settled' for the G70.
There’s surely a new generation of this coming soon, no reason to buy this new imo.
Toyota makes 2.5T.
All this fawning over a 2.5t as being unique and revolutionary...as if Mazda hasnt been doing the same for more than 7 years now.
Neither of them should touch a car.
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Just wait ten years when you need parts. Transmission sensors etc. Korean companies are horrible about parts availability. 2.5 liters is not a sport engine. No sale.
Man all of these sports sedans are a joke. My accord has a 2.0 turbo tuned to 310hp and 370lbft of torque. And weighs 3300lb. With everything stock by the way. Sway bars only.
This stuff is just a joke for "sports" sedans. 4k pounds??? Makes a Camry feel light and nimble
Are you comparing a tuned car to a stock car? A rwd g70 weighs 3691lb. Not everyone wants a fwd car.
Accord. LOL
@@SlipAngleG70 I'm sure the Accord is nice...but I don't want one. My G70 has been awesome.
And your tuned Accord has no chance of putting that power down thru the front wheels. It would get crushed by the old 2.0L G70 from a dig. And it'd be even worse in the bends!🤣