I built a portable router bench very similar to this years ago and don't need one - but the trick on how to set up a dado with the combination square alone made it worth watching this video 😊 Awesome, thanks!
Yeah. That was one of those tips that made me want to go out to the shop and try it. I guess I’ll be building something with an unnecessary dado today.
Looks like another quality product from Enjoywood and they’ve got a good thing going with you as a design consultant. Works for them and works for us! However I’m not buying this router table (yet anyway), as I’ve just invested in a Festool Domino and also your Enjoywood router sled for the router table I already have. Really appreciated your technique for setting up a dado! Thanks!
Hi Dennis, Thanx for your review. I purchased this 8 days ago when the video came out and had it delivered (china to NL) yesterday. I assembled it yesterday and have some further thoughs: - The supplied flipstop suffers from the square-nut being too big so it doesnt ride nicely in the alu-extrusion and the flipstop wobbles (fix: grinded off one part of the square nut a bit). - The Miter gauge does not ride nicely in the groove. Some screws protrude from the bottom of the gauge and damaged the bottom of the groove (fixe: grind of the two screws used for the black adjustabl plastic ring but some damage is done). - The holes (2x3) for the two horizontal table braces are clumsy choosen. Now they are 2 sets of 3 holes and you can only choose between the lower OR the higher mounting, however if they spaced all holes the same distance (at no extra cost), one could be even more flexible. - The assembly instructions ARE included but a bit clumsy (black and white and mentions the wrong screw-length) but for the DIY-er no big issue. - I have mounted my cordless DeWalt DCW600 with no issues. I believe I will be very happy with this unit and it is by no means perfect but the ballance between price and quality is very ok!. Thanx again!
How on earth did I miss your latest video coming out 🤣. The router table looks really well built and just right for the small routers. I don't have a need myself for one of these tables, but I do like the Enjoywood hold down rollers, and at the moment, they are less than £20 for a pair. I shall be ordering a pair very soon to catch the Flash Deal. Keep up the great work, for a moment until I went looking on TH-cam, I thought you weren't making anymore video's 😂😂
Well Dennis, so far your assessments are very accurate. What you are showing this time also looks quite good. The price seems reasonable to me, because if you want to buy a lift and a fence of similar quality separately, you probably won't save even a penny. Especially since you have a complete set in this offer! The whole thing looks very decent, and I personally thought that such a routertable could be easily incorporated into a larger tabletop, creating a very stable place for milling small and very small elements. If you buy a good quality router, not necessarily battery-powered, you will get a PRECISION machining station for little money but high quality! Thanks for the demonstration and showing a cool trick. Best regards.
Thanks, I think it is a very nice product as I tried to show in the video. But, I do not think it is for everyone. A seperate system, that I also showed, is more advanced compared to this. But not everyone can place such a system, or carry with them such a system. When that is the situation to deal with, I think this is a perfect solution.
Your series for China tools is awesome - real value added! P.S. Please provide info on what load cell kit do you use in your videos and if possible also a link on where I could buy one! Thanks!
Hi Dennis! A very interesting router table. Sizewise, I am absolutely sure it will do the trick for smaller pieces. I still own one of these vintage Bosch-Combi universal machine sets, that used a power drill as drive and could be converted to everything from table saw to a metal-lathe. Since it is based on the 43mm standard collar, I can also fit a Bosch POF 600 Router to convert it into a router table. The table has a very similar size than the one shown here and it is ideal for delicate workpieces. What always worries me when looking at router lifts and tables that can be fitted with handheld routers is the maximum working depth. Some constructions sacrifice a lot of height and I'm afraid the shown table is one of them. I would guess the clever universal mounting brackets plus the clear plastic insert are around 8mm thick. Even if you gain a little by removing the plastic table from the router-base, depth could become an issue. Especially since those small routers are not suitable for longer router bits to compensate. Thank you for pointing out again the basic workflows. I couldn't agree more at 06:45 - that is the way to set the router. I see no reason at all for rulers on a router table fence. It always cracks a smile, when I see people putting enormous effort in acurately mounting the fence parallel (to a round spinning tool 🤦♂). The large dust-port is a definite plus. I also agree with you at 08:03. Perhaps it's a thing of age plus experience, that we always manage to make things fit. Even without a 3D printer. Over all a well designed and versatile device. If I wouldn't have my little Bosch-Combi swiss-army-knife, I really would consider buying it. Thanks for all the testing and also for the suggestions to the manufacturers for improvements! Cheers Andreas
I was surprised you didn't discuss setting the bit height in the router table versus the router lift. The router table appears to rely on the router's own base adjustment, which will vary based on manufacturer and some may have its controls blocked by the table structure as you found for on/off. However, a router lift gives one accurate controls for adjusting bit height, which I suspect is more problematic with this router table.
I agree, a product like this has its limitations. I reviewed it as a small routertable. For more advanced routerwork a lift is more sophisticated. So is a bigger router etc.
Dennis: I use the router lift / fence combo that you previously reviewed, and I do find that the height of the bit can shift during a cut (since it doesn't have a lock). It seems to happen when there is a lot of vibration, probably when the router speed somehow matches the resonant frequency of the table I have it mounted in. You probably didn't experience this because you were using a very substantial table.
Wederom een ontzettend leuke video. Veel informatie. Ik zou wel zo'n tafel willen hebben. Alleen de prijs schrikt wel erg af. Daar gebruik ik het te weinig voor. Eens even zoeken of ik iets vind wat mij beter schikt...maar blijf vooral zo doorgaan!¡!!😅
Dennis, Great video as always. How about the option of the table top being able to take the small router lift. The combination would compliment both the table and the lift. Keep up the great videos.
Yeah, you are right. But I think the price is the biggest issue here. When it becomes too expansive, you better of with a more sophisticated size router table.
What would be more ideal would be for them to integrate their mini router lift into a “professional” version of this. Ie. the columns mounted directly to the table.
Yes, the question is, how far do you stretch it. At a certain point it is better to go to a bigger and more powerfull solution. This is perfect for basic router work, but when you want to go further, a bigger routertable with highend lift and Fence is the best option.
@@HookedonWoodAll valid points. But someone would maybe just want a miniature, but full featured router table for a very small place… Or a wee full featured one that can be slung into the back of the car for use with a battery router. Maybe even an option where the mini router lift could be dropped into the mini table.
It's much easier to build your own router table around a router lift than having a fancy aluminium table where adjusting height is a pain. Also, it's missing a starter pin, which is essential for safe work without a fence.
Wouldn't it be awesome if the flanges that sit on the workbench are set for 96mm dog holes, and an optional extra be included of threaded dog holes to lock it down to a workbench!
I have the Jessem roller guides and the mounting bolts are a few thou too thick to easily slide in the provided groove on the Enjoywood router fence. Need to fettle the fence when I get a moment.
What is the height difference between the red baseplate and the grey Aluminium in 3:29 ? I would try to print or mill some adapters, so that the Festtool OF1010 can be installed. (The height from the "legs" of this table is not a problem i think, i would like to install it on the side of my Hammer K3W as a Table Router, so the Router has no height limitation)
Not sure about this one, the small router tables for the mft from tso seem better value and more suited to site work, im sure benchdogs are working on one for their new bench. If at home i think using the other lift in a homemade top with the fence denis used in his will be a better option
It depends on everyones situation. The smaller lift I showed first is awesome, but ofcourse, a bigger system is even better or more versatile. When you specifically use a smaller table as in this review, in this price and up, there are more choices. This is one to consider I think.
Enjoywood certainly have serious game in their field nowadays and I have really come to appreciate them as a brand that inspires both confidence and loyalty. This router table looks like it will be taking a bite out of my tool budget 🤣 Do you think the Festool OF 1010 would fit? Thanks for another great review and it's great to see these companies reaching out to you for input - very wise decision on their part :)
Thanks for the review Dennis. On the compatibility you mention Dewalt and Makita are you aware if this will be compatible with Milwaukee M18 fuel trim router, thanks in advance
I did a review in Episode 36. I can still highly recommend that lift. The only problem is, that sometimes I think it is too expansive and sometimes they have a sale price that is unbelievable low. Inbetween 200 and 230 I think is a very good price for this lift.
Hi Dennis, thank you for your presentation! Could you recommend also the nice looking combination square that you're using in the video. What brand is it? Thank you and greetings from Switzerland! Daniel
$279. Woodpeckers is $349 - better designed and made in USA quality as well for an extra $70. I think Chinatools niche in the market is cheap tools undercutting the western produced ones. This does not fit the niche.
I agree it is a more expansive tool and when I was in the market, I do not know how big of a difference their needs to be to go for the woodpecker or this one. But, compared to the Woodpeckers, I do not see, this one is wors. Besides that I think there are more and more products comming from China that does not only are undercutting the western products, but also making innovative products themselves. Which is the road they should choose. And you also should remember, besides Woodpeckers, most of these router tables are made in China anyway. That the same products without the middle men are more affordable is evident.
Excellent presentation. You covered the tool well and accurate. Well done.
I built a portable router bench very similar to this years ago and don't need one - but the trick on how to set up a dado with the combination square alone made it worth watching this video 😊 Awesome, thanks!
Yeah. That was one of those tips that made me want to go out to the shop and try it. I guess I’ll be building something with an unnecessary dado today.
@@johnnyb362 😂
Looks like another quality product from Enjoywood and they’ve got a good thing going with you as a design consultant. Works for them and works for us! However I’m not buying this router table (yet anyway), as I’ve just invested in a Festool Domino and also your Enjoywood router sled for the router table I already have. Really appreciated your technique for setting up a dado! Thanks!
Good morning 🌅, Great looking 👀 product,
Enjoywood has come up with some great products recently. Thanks for letting us know about some of them. - Chris
Hi Dennis, Thanx for your review. I purchased this 8 days ago when the video came out and had it delivered (china to NL) yesterday. I assembled it yesterday and have some further thoughs:
- The supplied flipstop suffers from the square-nut being too big so it doesnt ride nicely in the alu-extrusion and the flipstop wobbles (fix: grinded off one part of the square nut a bit).
- The Miter gauge does not ride nicely in the groove. Some screws protrude from the bottom of the gauge and damaged the bottom of the groove (fixe: grind of the two screws used for the black adjustabl plastic ring but some damage is done).
- The holes (2x3) for the two horizontal table braces are clumsy choosen. Now they are 2 sets of 3 holes and you can only choose between the lower OR the higher mounting, however if they spaced all holes the same distance (at no extra cost), one could be even more flexible.
- The assembly instructions ARE included but a bit clumsy (black and white and mentions the wrong screw-length) but for the DIY-er no big issue.
- I have mounted my cordless DeWalt DCW600 with no issues.
I believe I will be very happy with this unit and it is by no means perfect but the ballance between price and quality is very ok!. Thanx again!
Dennis, as always, your symopsis and thoughs are right on and invaluable. Thank You!!
I finish work, I see Dennis make new video, I am happy
I uploaded my video, read your comment. I am happy😊
How on earth did I miss your latest video coming out 🤣.
The router table looks really well built and just right for the small routers.
I don't have a need myself for one of these tables, but I do like the Enjoywood hold down rollers, and at the moment, they are less than £20 for a pair.
I shall be ordering a pair very soon to catch the Flash Deal.
Keep up the great work, for a moment until I went looking on TH-cam, I thought you weren't making anymore video's 😂😂
That is indeed a bit disappointing 😁😁
Well Dennis, so far your assessments are very accurate. What you are showing this time also looks quite good. The price seems reasonable to me, because if you want to buy a lift and a fence of similar quality separately, you probably won't save even a penny. Especially since you have a complete set in this offer!
The whole thing looks very decent, and I personally thought that such a routertable could be easily incorporated into a larger tabletop, creating a very stable place for milling small and very small elements. If you buy a good quality router, not necessarily battery-powered, you will get a PRECISION machining station for little money but high quality!
Thanks for the demonstration and showing a cool trick. Best regards.
Thanks, I think it is a very nice product as I tried to show in the video. But, I do not think it is for everyone. A seperate system, that I also showed, is more advanced compared to this. But not everyone can place such a system, or carry with them such a system. When that is the situation to deal with, I think this is a perfect solution.
Fantastic review, Dennis! Thanks a bunch for all the tips! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I would really like to see such routertable for the large handheld routers.
Hi Dennis, great product and a good demonstration great video
Nice to see a video again
Your series for China tools is awesome - real value added!
P.S. Please provide info on what load cell kit do you use in your videos and if possible also a link on where I could buy one! Thanks!
Excellent product. Excellent review!
VERY sweet router table. However I think it needs an additional power switch on a front leg.
I love you, thank you for everything
Thanks fella for the review 👌
oops. I commented about 10 seconds before you showed the fix. I'll be more patient now.
Hi Dennis! A very interesting router table. Sizewise, I am absolutely sure it will do the trick for smaller pieces. I still own one of these vintage Bosch-Combi universal machine sets, that used a power drill as drive and could be converted to everything from table saw to a metal-lathe. Since it is based on the 43mm standard collar, I can also fit a Bosch POF 600 Router to convert it into a router table. The table has a very similar size than the one shown here and it is ideal for delicate workpieces.
What always worries me when looking at router lifts and tables that can be fitted with handheld routers is the maximum working depth. Some constructions sacrifice a lot of height and I'm afraid the shown table is one of them. I would guess the clever universal mounting brackets plus the clear plastic insert are around 8mm thick. Even if you gain a little by removing the plastic table from the router-base, depth could become an issue. Especially since those small routers are not suitable for longer router bits to compensate.
Thank you for pointing out again the basic workflows. I couldn't agree more at 06:45 - that is the way to set the router. I see no reason at all for rulers on a router table fence. It always cracks a smile, when I see people putting enormous effort in acurately mounting the fence parallel (to a round spinning tool 🤦♂).
The large dust-port is a definite plus. I also agree with you at 08:03. Perhaps it's a thing of age plus experience, that we always manage to make things fit. Even without a 3D printer.
Over all a well designed and versatile device. If I wouldn't have my little Bosch-Combi swiss-army-knife, I really would consider buying it.
Thanks for all the testing and also for the suggestions to the manufacturers for improvements!
Cheers
Andreas
I was surprised you didn't discuss setting the bit height in the router table versus the router lift. The router table appears to rely on the router's own base adjustment, which will vary based on manufacturer and some may have its controls blocked by the table structure as you found for on/off. However, a router lift gives one accurate controls for adjusting bit height, which I suspect is more problematic with this router table.
I agree, a product like this has its limitations. I reviewed it as a small routertable. For more advanced routerwork a lift is more sophisticated. So is a bigger router etc.
Great Video well done Dennis
Dennis: I use the router lift / fence combo that you previously reviewed, and I do find that the height of the bit can shift during a cut (since it doesn't have a lock). It seems to happen when there is a lot of vibration, probably when the router speed somehow matches the resonant frequency of the table I have it mounted in. You probably didn't experience this because you were using a very substantial table.
You can adjust the resistance. There are two screws that you can tight. (if I remember it correctly)
@@HookedonWood You're right! Thank you so much.
Wederom een ontzettend leuke video. Veel informatie.
Ik zou wel zo'n tafel willen hebben. Alleen de prijs schrikt wel erg af. Daar gebruik ik het te weinig voor.
Eens even zoeken of ik iets vind wat mij beter schikt...maar blijf vooral zo doorgaan!¡!!😅
Dennis, Great video as always. How about the option of the table top being able to take the small router lift. The combination would compliment both the table and the lift. Keep up the great videos.
Yeah, you are right. But I think the price is the biggest issue here. When it becomes too expansive, you better of with a more sophisticated size router table.
Great review Thanks for sharing
Can you locate a full size router table?
Nice piece of kit. Flash sale on £215.18
What would be more ideal would be for them to integrate their mini router lift into a “professional” version of this. Ie. the columns mounted directly to the table.
Yes, the question is, how far do you stretch it. At a certain point it is better to go to a bigger and more powerfull solution. This is perfect for basic router work, but when you want to go further, a bigger routertable with highend lift and Fence is the best option.
@@HookedonWoodAll valid points. But someone would maybe just want a miniature, but full featured router table for a very small place… Or a wee full featured one that can be slung into the back of the car for use with a battery router. Maybe even an option where the mini router lift could be dropped into the mini table.
@@kirstymctear5030Yea 2nd that , would be good to fit the lift in , you must be Scottish Kirsty 🤣
It's much easier to build your own router table around a router lift than having a fancy aluminium table where adjusting height is a pain. Also, it's missing a starter pin, which is essential for safe work without a fence.
Will it work with a 1.5kW 65mm spindle? I guess it night fit in the 65mm hole for the handheld tool
Looks really good :)
I just want the small miter gauge for my router table I already have
Wouldn't it be awesome if the flanges that sit on the workbench are set for 96mm dog holes, and an optional extra be included of threaded dog holes to lock it down to a workbench!
I have the Jessem roller guides and the mounting bolts are a few thou too thick to easily slide in the provided groove on the Enjoywood router fence. Need to fettle the fence when I get a moment.
In this fence it is not a problem. They fit good.
What is the height difference between the red baseplate and the grey Aluminium in 3:29 ?
I would try to print or mill some adapters, so that the Festtool OF1010 can be installed. (The height from the "legs" of this table is not a problem i think, i would like to install it on the side of my Hammer K3W as a Table Router, so the Router has no height limitation)
Not sure about this one, the small router tables for the mft from tso seem better value and more suited to site work, im sure benchdogs are working on one for their new bench. If at home i think using the other lift in a homemade top with the fence denis used in his will be a better option
It depends on everyones situation. The smaller lift I showed first is awesome, but ofcourse, a bigger system is even better or more versatile. When you specifically use a smaller table as in this review, in this price and up, there are more choices. This is one to consider I think.
Enjoywood certainly have serious game in their field nowadays and I have really come to appreciate them as a brand that inspires both confidence and loyalty. This router table looks like it will be taking a bite out of my tool budget 🤣
Do you think the Festool OF 1010 would fit?
Thanks for another great review and it's great to see these companies reaching out to you for input - very wise decision on their part :)
Thanks for the review Dennis. On the compatibility you mention Dewalt and Makita are you aware if this will be compatible with Milwaukee M18 fuel trim router, thanks in advance
I do not know. You need to mount the base to the platform. This is a very universal mounting system and I do not see why the Milwaukee would not fit.
Thanks for sharing, love your channel man. Any suggestions on where to source a router lift for a bigger half inch router?? Thanks again
I did a review in Episode 36. I can still highly recommend that lift. The only problem is, that sometimes I think it is too expansive and sometimes they have a sale price that is unbelievable low. Inbetween 200 and 230 I think is a very good price for this lift.
@@HookedonWood Topman. Quality channel and content, thanks man I'm very grateful 🙏
Hi Dennis, thank you for your presentation! Could you recommend also the nice looking combination square that you're using in the video. What brand is it? Thank you and greetings from Switzerland! Daniel
It is not for sale yet. I let you know. I am testing it currently.
It's a blatant rip off of the bridge city square
Thanks for the vid. If Lawn Darts where once a toy, I guess a Router could be :).
The hooked on wood combination is about 250 euro. How does that compare to the bosch Router table that is around 300?
I have no idea, but it is definitely another contender to consider when in the market for a product like this.
the big difference between this table and the router lift...is the lift.. the table should have room for the router lift... then it would be perfect
agree!
Shame it's only for trim routers, you'd think a router table would be better with the extra power and 1/2 bits
Yes, as a router table that is more diverse. This is just for basic work and when you can not place a big table
Did they miss to provide a safety pin?
Good point. That was too difficult to implement, considering the mounting system.
@@HookedonWoodHa! Came here to ask the same question.
$279. Woodpeckers is $349 - better designed and made in USA quality as well for an extra $70.
I think Chinatools niche in the market is cheap tools undercutting the western produced ones. This does not fit the niche.
I agree it is a more expansive tool and when I was in the market, I do not know how big of a difference their needs to be to go for the woodpecker or this one. But, compared to the Woodpeckers, I do not see, this one is wors. Besides that I think there are more and more products comming from China that does not only are undercutting the western products, but also making innovative products themselves. Which is the road they should choose. And you also should remember, besides Woodpeckers, most of these router tables are made in China anyway. That the same products without the middle men are more affordable is evident.
Citation needed.
Great!... other stuff i want to have. You making me poor!