I think either one is fine, Shizuko gives an offensive buff with crit rate but that's honestly not worth that much. Shimiko giving a shield can be nice to help keep your team alive especially if you're running Iori like I am.
yeah a lot of people raised her bc back in 1st shirokuro torment, u needed 2 teams (1 if mald) to clear shiro so u needed 2 cover users which is why Shimiko was used. It also helped that Torment’s ball dmg multiplier to cover was decreased from Insane so Shimiko could actually deflect the balls
There are safespots all over in a grid pattern so there should be alternatives but unfortunately I don't know any. Might have to experiment for yourself.
Shizuko and Shimiko hitboxes are a little different, it's still possible for it to avoid the bombs but if I remember correctly her cover needs to be placed more to the right compared to Shimiko's.
You can use Shizuko instead, it just means no shield for Iori so maybe a little maldier but probably not that bad. If you want to use Shimiko then you want ex5 and probably T5 boots+pin or t4 boots + t6 pin. These are a little close to borderline so you may need slightly more if your bond is low.
@@senovit do you have an idea of how much hp the cover need to survive the first yellow bomb? i'm trying using shizuko, but the fisrt yellow bomb destroys the cover then the secont one target mika
@@lucasduran4797 You need to find the perfect spot to place it so that the big bomb doesn't hit it. The sticky bomb does 0 damage when it's attached to a cover, probably a bug.
The cover needs to have at least 12k hp to bounce one ball, 24k to bounce two. You can use the website schale.gg to see how much hp their covers will have with your investment.
It might be hard to separate the students into their safespots using T.Yuuka. T.Yuuka comps use a different strat where they keep everyone alive and just reposition the entire party more often.
I think Wakamo hovercraft is probably the easiest. Hod is crazy difficult to body throw, most people probably won't run into that issue but if you do it's pretty much Binah level which is why difficulty is kind of hard for me to say. It's easy if you have most of the units, but very hard if you don't. Wakamo has a difficult phase 1 but phase 2 is pretty much free once you get to it, which makes me consider it an easier boss even if it has less clears overall. Shirokuro has a lot of knowledge checking required about how units move, and if you're not on emulator you won't get a consistent reposition. Can still make a T.Yuuka team instead though.
I don't know if i would say easy, each individual jump is probably not as precise as the Mimori repos but you have to do a lot more of them which can lead to error. I've seen people using hotkeys even for those too. But at least it's more feasible to manually play that if you can't or don't want to use hotkeys.
Mimori with normal fuuka or tyuuka (it might be a bit harder to separate cherino because she has limited range and a giant area so you might accidentally move another unit) Marina can be replaced with any tank
Marina can be replaced with Shun or any red winter (just giving Cherino another cost regen stack). There isn't really a replacement for Mimori unless you change strats, but TYuuka moving the whole party around with Mika Ui SUi is faster than this strat by a bit anyway.
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A strat to keep Mika safe during the final ball roll.
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mika bullies another raid again ssg
Shimiko? That's interesting. I saw a lot of Shizuko when fighting shirokuro, this is the first one I see using shimiko.
I think either one is fine, Shizuko gives an offensive buff with crit rate but that's honestly not worth that much. Shimiko giving a shield can be nice to help keep your team alive especially if you're running Iori like I am.
@@senovit Fair. Personally I just love seeing some love for Shimiko.
shimiko shard got alot on some event + plus gacha so her are at UE50 for me she will give more stat boost than using shizuko only at UE30
yeah a lot of people raised her bc back in 1st shirokuro torment, u needed 2 teams (1 if mald) to clear shiro
so u needed 2 cover users which is why Shimiko was used. It also helped that Torment’s ball dmg multiplier to cover was decreased from Insane so Shimiko could actually deflect the balls
nice raid
Is there an alternative location for Cherino to move to using Mimori? Playing on phone doesn't allow that safe spot to be used 😅
There are safespots all over in a grid pattern so there should be alternatives but unfortunately I don't know any. Might have to experiment for yourself.
Trying Shizuko with this team, having trouble placing her EX so it doesnt get destroy with the first bombs 😅😅
Shizuko and Shimiko hitboxes are a little different, it's still possible for it to avoid the bombs but if I remember correctly her cover needs to be placed more to the right compared to Shimiko's.
Ssg senovit, ama copy this asap :)
Do you still have keybind coordinate for Mimori repos on p2? Can you share it?
I don't have it sorry
is possible replace shimiko?
Or how much I should level up her equip and skills? him have her UE40 but 3333 T111
You can use Shizuko instead, it just means no shield for Iori so maybe a little maldier but probably not that bad. If you want to use Shimiko then you want ex5 and probably T5 boots+pin or t4 boots + t6 pin. These are a little close to borderline so you may need slightly more if your bond is low.
@@senovit do you have an idea of how much hp the cover need to survive the first yellow bomb? i'm trying using shizuko, but the fisrt yellow bomb destroys the cover then the secont one target mika
@@lucasduran4797 You need to find the perfect spot to place it so that the big bomb doesn't hit it. The sticky bomb does 0 damage when it's attached to a cover, probably a bug.
ssg senofeet
At what level is Shimori necessary to return Shiro's attacks?
The cover needs to have at least 12k hp to bounce one ball, 24k to bounce two. You can use the website schale.gg to see how much hp their covers will have with your investment.
@@senovit I didn't know how to use it hahaha
thank u very much
is it possible to use t.yuuka instead of mimori?
It might be hard to separate the students into their safespots using T.Yuuka. T.Yuuka comps use a different strat where they keep everyone alive and just reposition the entire party more often.
Isn't Swimsuit UI better than Marina?
The comp with her clears p2 faster yes, but it requires a different strategy.
could this be the new easiest torment raid or its still hod?
I think Wakamo hovercraft is probably the easiest. Hod is crazy difficult to body throw, most people probably won't run into that issue but if you do it's pretty much Binah level which is why difficulty is kind of hard for me to say. It's easy if you have most of the units, but very hard if you don't. Wakamo has a difficult phase 1 but phase 2 is pretty much free once you get to it, which makes me consider it an easier boss even if it has less clears overall. Shirokuro has a lot of knowledge checking required about how units move, and if you're not on emulator you won't get a consistent reposition. Can still make a T.Yuuka team instead though.
T. Yuuka truly is the easy way out :)
I don't know if i would say easy, each individual jump is probably not as precise as the Mimori repos but you have to do a lot more of them which can lead to error. I've seen people using hotkeys even for those too. But at least it's more feasible to manually play that if you can't or don't want to use hotkeys.
can marina be replaced? and also Mimori?
Mimori with normal fuuka or tyuuka (it might be a bit harder to separate cherino because she has limited range and a giant area so you might accidentally move another unit)
Marina can be replaced with any tank
Marina can be replaced with Shun or any red winter (just giving Cherino another cost regen stack). There isn't really a replacement for Mimori unless you change strats, but TYuuka moving the whole party around with Mika Ui SUi is faster than this strat by a bit anyway.
can i replace shimiko to shizuko with this strat?
Yes, you might have to mald Iori taking less hits though.