They’re loooooong from being restored. That’s just the ugly truth sadly. Take coaster’s f59phi. They might get preserved and they might not. It’s a hit or miss when it comes to museums and preserving trains.
I have seen abandoned cars before, and near where I live there is an airliner graveyard. It's sad to see beautiful old trains and planes abandoned, rusting away. But it's good to see exciting new trains running, and watch America's passenger rail system slowly bootstrapping itself back into existence. Thank you, Thom for covering the fallen fleet as respectfully as you cover the new trains!
@@Thom-TRA Ours isn't creepy. It's on an airport--would you believe Mojave International? I've only seen it from the freeway, and it looks like a lot of airplanes out on the tarmac waiting to start their flight assignments. Then you realize Mojave, CA doesn't have any scheduled airline service. Duh! Up close one would notice the aircraft models, and that they don't use those models any more. Since they are at an airport, behind barbed wire fences, there isn't a lot of vandalism. Unlike the sad railroad graveyard you found.
Wow, who knew an abandoned train by O'Hare had such interesting history! Seeing a MARC locomotive in Burlington Northern colors is wild! Bensenville is named after a village called Bensen in the Sudwalde municipality of Lower Saxony in Germany, but it used to be called Tioga. A cool thing that the NYC Subway has done in the past when it's time to retire rolling stock is turning them into reefs! From 2001 to 2010, the MTA repurposed Redbird and Brightliner subway cars by submerging them into the ocean off states such as New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and South Carolina. The nooks and crannies provide an ideal habitat for fish, mussels, shrimp, crabs and lobsters! The Redbird Reef off of Delaware for example has 714 Redbirds! The program saved the MTA $30 million in disposal costs and helping rebuild the environment. By the time the subway reefing project officially ended on Earth Day 2010, 2,580 subway cars were placed in sites along the coast!
@@Thom-TRA ah I see, I was just excited to see if others lived in the chi area, New York is an incredible city itself. I'm glad to see others appreciate the trains here too
One time my dad and I snuck in to one of those abandoned Metra cars somewhere else in that area. I think it was outside of another warehouse and luckily no one else noticed and we got away with it. We only went up the first few steps and never went by the windows or on the upper level at all.
There was more videos on it, basically the prime mover has been removed. Would be nice to put it affixed to a plinth or something cosmetically restored.
I just went to the new york central railroad museum in Elkhart, Indiana, and it had a NYC locomotive just like the abandoned one you ahd in your video. You should definitely go check it out!
Those E9s were awesome. When I'd start out in the early AM in Aurora, bound for Chicago, they'd be lined up by the dozens waiting to handle the morning commute. It was a green and white sea of bull-nosed behemoths. Then they all gathered again just outside Union Station for the evening commute back out. The EMD E9 A remains my favorite train engine of all time.
They even have at least one E9AM that was also in BN commuter service before being used for additional horsepower and HEP for the BN business train. At one point they had another BN E9AM, but I’m not sure if it is still there.
IRM had 2 E’s in the commuter scheme that had been used by MARC. Those two locomotives came to the museum by way of the BN. Before the BNSF merger the BN was working on expanding their business fleet. They had BN 1, 2, & 3, the last to E’s were supposed be 4 & 5 and one was going to be converted to a B-unit. After the merger most all the BN executives retired and the SF executives took over and donated the executive fleet to the museum. MARC 91 was later gutted to make a B-unit for the WSOR.
The 2 instances I know of for abandoned trains are the old amtrak e8 along the NEC a bit north of Philadelphia (I believe) and the old budd spv-2000s outside of Wilmington. Sadly both have been moved out of sight. Not sure where they are now but given their state, I believe they no longer exist. You would pass them while riding a train.
Wow! I didnt think you would make a video on this, but I'm glad you did! I've always seen this train but never checked it out! Thanks for the history on the engine. Great video 👍👍
@@TommyJohnson-ms8pb I don’t see how any of that is relevant to this story. The 9907 went to MARC before the BNSF merger even happened. Or am I supposed to talk about every locomotive ever made in this series? I don’t think so.
@@TommyJohnson-ms8pb okay, you didn’t provide that context. It would have been helpful to explain where in the story that puzzle piece fit. Because you made it sound like you were talking about a whole other train and accusing me of being neglectful for not mentioning it.
FYI Bensenville is where the Chicago Outfit killed the Spilotro brothers in 1986 and then buried them in a corn field in Indiana. (See the movie Casino)
Been to that area several times. Sister's ex inlaws lived there too. Great place for planespotting. Well said about the respect for property and trespassing laws.
VRE & MARC had bought old gallery cars from Chicago Metra. VRE has since sold back to Chicago as VRE has bought new gallery cars and MARC has also has gotten rid of those old gallery cars
I appreciate you giving the actual history of BN 9907 instead of repeating the falsehood about it being 9912 due to that damn shock video. It's bewildering how the internet is a thing where you can fact check the build date and history of a locomotive but one spoopy BS video makes everyone belief this locomotive is haunted. Madness.
Yeah there are literally other videos on TH-cam saying that this is that locomotive. Like no, it’s not. What happened was horrible but let’s not lie about it.
@@Thom-TRA Okay, in Amsterdam that makes a lot more sense. I thought the footage was from the US, where the only Duewag stock I'm aware of are the San Diego U2 and various shoebox-like (seriously you lot did not order elegant body work compared to contemporary constructions) LRV after the U2.
She's been moved since '19. Used to be behind a firehouse. Used to be a couple of business cars near her, too. 9907 still had the front door and visible MARC branding at the time.
MARC 91 and 92 were both acquired by IRM. MARC 91 was part of a deal IRM made with the WSOR. The engine was removed and put into the E8B that IRM had and leased to the WSOR to use with their two E8A ‘s. It was my understanding that the. 91 was supposed to return to IRM but the UP wouldn’t haul it because WSOR bypassed the brakes. The 91 sat in the UP’s Janesville yard for some time.
I rode on that model of passenger car so many times. When the 606, park/bike trail made from a converted right of way, opened I looked into the amount of abandoned rail right of way in Chicago and there is miles of it. A lot of it is very hard to reach, behind fences etc. I've been told by people who are more agile that there is abandoned rail stock on some of it as well but I am not able to verify that.
I Live a good 20 minutes south in near by River Forest and I actually saw this in person a couple times. Trying to find out who owns the thing with the METX gallery cars and the two IC Pullmans so I can buy and restore them. For excursion services
I really enjoyed this awesome video, but it made me kind of sad to see this abandoned and neglected engine. You can tell It used to be awesome. I Hope someone somehow can save it and restore it. That would be awesome!!!
There is a Burlington northern train at the Illinois railway museum that is number 9908. I never rode that one, but it is restored. It originally had the original Burlington northern livery, but today, it has a black and white striped livery. I liked it better with the original livery, despite me not seeing it in the original livery.
If you ride the Metra Milwaukee district north line from lake forest to libertyville immediately after the WSOR branches off from the CPKC main line you will see a long stretch of abandoned gallery cars similar to the ones in the video.
Its really sad to see pieces of railroad history just rotting away from our very eyes, I'm hoping that a museum or a tourist railroad gets them, but unfortunately getting these passenger cars and locomotive there is not that easy, it will probably require having to contact a museum/tourist railroad ( Illinois Railway Museum, Steam Railroading Institute, National Museum of Transportation, Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad, Mid Continent Railway Museum, etc) and also to top of that they just don't have much money lying around, which will require them to get money from via donations to help save them
4:12 Just a word of warning, if anyone hasn't seen that video, do not go looking for it. I made that mistake and I promise you it's not worth it.
I really hope they get restored and put in a museum
I’m afraid that probably won’t happen
@@Thom-TRA yeah 😢
There’s one just like it being restored at the Illinois Railway Museum
@@Mr.E723 cool
They’re loooooong from being restored. That’s just the ugly truth sadly. Take coaster’s f59phi. They might get preserved and they might not. It’s a hit or miss when it comes to museums and preserving trains.
Yes the downers grove incident is the first thing people think about with these things. The locomotive involved is in poor condition too
I have seen abandoned cars before, and near where I live there is an airliner graveyard. It's sad to see beautiful old trains and planes abandoned, rusting away. But it's good to see exciting new trains running, and watch America's passenger rail system slowly bootstrapping itself back into existence.
Thank you, Thom for covering the fallen fleet as respectfully as you cover the new trains!
I’d love to see an airliner graveyard someday. I bet it’s kind of creepy.
@@Thom-TRA Ours isn't creepy. It's on an airport--would you believe Mojave International? I've only seen it from the freeway, and it looks like a lot of airplanes out on the tarmac waiting to start their flight assignments. Then you realize Mojave, CA doesn't have any scheduled airline service. Duh! Up close one would notice the aircraft models, and that they don't use those models any more. Since they are at an airport, behind barbed wire fences, there isn't a lot of vandalism. Unlike the sad railroad graveyard you found.
Wow, who knew an abandoned train by O'Hare had such interesting history! Seeing a MARC locomotive in Burlington Northern colors is wild! Bensenville is named after a village called Bensen in the Sudwalde municipality of Lower Saxony in Germany, but it used to be called Tioga. A cool thing that the NYC Subway has done in the past when it's time to retire rolling stock is turning them into reefs! From 2001 to 2010, the MTA repurposed Redbird and Brightliner subway cars by submerging them into the ocean off states such as New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and South Carolina. The nooks and crannies provide an ideal habitat for fish, mussels, shrimp, crabs and lobsters! The Redbird Reef off of Delaware for example has 714 Redbirds! The program saved the MTA $30 million in disposal costs and helping rebuild the environment. By the time the subway reefing project officially ended on Earth Day 2010, 2,580 subway cars were placed in sites along the coast!
I love train reefs! I believe MARTA does something too!
Avery you're from chi? Crazy!
@@techissus7449 Nope, never lived in Chicagoland, I live in the Northeast!
@@techissus7449 Avery is from the greater New York area as far as I know
@@Thom-TRA ah I see, I was just excited to see if others lived in the chi area, New York is an incredible city itself. I'm glad to see others appreciate the trains here too
It’s fascinating to me that you were able to find that complete history of this locomotive’s operators from start to retirement. Very cool topic.
It took quite a bit of effort but I’m happy with how it turned out!
A lot of this kind of stuff is very well documented on sites like Railroad Pictures Archive and even Wikipedia, if you're interested.
Seconded!
One time my dad and I snuck in to one of those abandoned Metra cars somewhere else in that area. I think it was outside of another warehouse and luckily no one else noticed and we got away with it. We only went up the first few steps and never went by the windows or on the upper level at all.
Shhh. We’ll keep it our secret.
@@Thom-TRA Okie Dokie!
There was more videos on it, basically the prime mover has been removed. Would be nice to put it affixed to a plinth or something cosmetically restored.
I just went to the new york central railroad museum in Elkhart, Indiana, and it had a NYC locomotive just like the abandoned one you ahd in your video. You should definitely go check it out!
Those E9s were awesome. When I'd start out in the early AM in Aurora, bound for Chicago, they'd be lined up by the dozens waiting to handle the morning commute. It was a green and white sea of bull-nosed behemoths. Then they all gathered again just outside Union Station for the evening commute back out. The EMD E9 A remains my favorite train engine of all time.
I’m sure they were so loud!
There is one restored in the Illinois railway museum
I also heard that they are going to be restoring the north shore line on display at the Illinois railway museum
So cool!!!! What a find. Particularly surprised that the gallery cars didn’t find another life!
There's a lot of classic trains at the Illinois Railroad Museum in Union, Illinois. You should check that place out.
They even have at least one E9AM that was also in BN commuter service before being used for additional horsepower and HEP for the BN business train. At one point they had another BN E9AM, but I’m not sure if it is still there.
IRM had 2 E’s in the commuter scheme that had been used by MARC. Those two locomotives came to the museum by way of the BN. Before the BNSF merger the BN was working on expanding their business fleet. They had BN 1, 2, & 3, the last to E’s were supposed be 4 & 5 and one was going to be converted to a B-unit. After the merger most all the BN executives retired and the SF executives took over and donated the executive fleet to the museum. MARC 91 was later gutted to make a B-unit for the WSOR.
There are abandoned pullman gallery cars sitting in the Arizona desert
Great video! Interesting to see those locomotives and cars with so many history!
Thanks!
Great video sir!
Thank you!
9912 was donated to a museum and is a decent shape but is in the process of restoration
9912 is very infamous.
@@MetxsightseerRailfan why, trains hit people all the time
@@RandomTrainfanmaybe they can repaint it with a mural honoring Mary Theresa, but only if the Wojtyla family consent to it.
@@DangerDave826 why would they do that, it would be kind but I think it would ruin a historical piece
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The 2 instances I know of for abandoned trains are the old amtrak e8 along the NEC a bit north of Philadelphia (I believe) and the old budd spv-2000s outside of Wilmington. Sadly both have been moved out of sight. Not sure where they are now but given their state, I believe they no longer exist. You would pass them while riding a train.
Wow! I didnt think you would make a video on this, but I'm glad you did! I've always seen this train but never checked it out! Thanks for the history on the engine. Great video 👍👍
Finding the full history was quite a bit of work!
@@TommyJohnson-ms8pb I don’t see how any of that is relevant to this story. The 9907 went to MARC before the BNSF merger even happened.
Or am I supposed to talk about every locomotive ever made in this series? I don’t think so.
@@TommyJohnson-ms8pb okay, you didn’t provide that context. It would have been helpful to explain where in the story that puzzle piece fit. Because you made it sound like you were talking about a whole other train and accusing me of being neglectful for not mentioning it.
Your videos are always so informative and interesting. Thanks for posting. SR
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
FYI Bensenville is where the Chicago Outfit killed the Spilotro brothers in 1986 and then buried them in a corn field in Indiana. (See the movie Casino)
Creepy
Bensenville is also home to the Chicago Outfit’s Joey Lombardo murder of businessman Daniel Seifert in the industrial area.
This loco really likes the number 9. 😊. It’s a great number
It makes my heart soar to see someone give some love to these venerable hunks of iron
My job was not too far away so I knew I had to check it out!
Well said Thom.
Thank you.
If only you could get into the Western Avenue Yard to make a video about the only two remaining F40C’s.
I’ve gotten them on video a few times!
How about a little more information on the Western Avenue yard F40C's
They were metra’s last 6 axle locomotive’s and were very powerful
Been to that area several times. Sister's ex inlaws lived there too. Great place for planespotting. Well said about the respect for property and trespassing laws.
VRE & MARC had bought old gallery cars from Chicago Metra. VRE has since sold back to Chicago as VRE has bought new gallery cars and MARC has also has gotten rid of those old gallery cars
Thanks
Thank you!
Getting sad seeing a train in such a state.
It is very sad
I have seen abandoned wagons and locomotives but they have a high scrap value so if they aren't sold for scrap thieves will steal the metal.
I’m surprised the village never asked for them to be removed do the vandalism especially with one of the cars was set on fire.
I wonder if they really even know
@@Thom-TRA that is true!
Wow so cool
I appreciate you giving the actual history of BN 9907 instead of repeating the falsehood about it being 9912 due to that damn shock video. It's bewildering how the internet is a thing where you can fact check the build date and history of a locomotive but one spoopy BS video makes everyone belief this locomotive is haunted. Madness.
Yeah there are literally other videos on TH-cam saying that this is that locomotive. Like no, it’s not. What happened was horrible but let’s not lie about it.
@@Thom-TRA Agreed.
Cool video 😊
0:08 Hang on, that's a Duewag tram in the background! How did that get there!?
I don’t know! It’s at the NDSM Werf in Amsterdam
@@Thom-TRA Okay, in Amsterdam that makes a lot more sense. I thought the footage was from the US, where the only Duewag stock I'm aware of are the San Diego U2 and various shoebox-like (seriously you lot did not order elegant body work compared to contemporary constructions) LRV after the U2.
Great catch, thanks for the review.
You’re welcome!
Very cool!
She's been moved since '19. Used to be behind a firehouse. Used to be a couple of business cars near her, too. 9907 still had the front door and visible MARC branding at the time.
A piece of history and a great video!
Many thanks!
Thom you ever make it over to the illinois railway museum?
Not yet. It’s pretty hard to get there without a car.
God forbid it be possible to get there and back by commuter rail.
@@Thom-TRA lmk if you need a ride
MARC 91 and 92 were both acquired by IRM. MARC 91 was part of a deal IRM made with the WSOR. The engine was removed and put into the E8B that IRM had and leased to the WSOR to use with their two E8A ‘s. It was my understanding that the. 91 was supposed to return to IRM but the UP wouldn’t haul it because WSOR bypassed the brakes. The 91 sat in the UP’s Janesville yard for some time.
I rode on that model of passenger car so many times.
When the 606, park/bike trail made from a converted right of way, opened I looked into the amount of abandoned rail right of way in Chicago and there is miles of it. A lot of it is very hard to reach, behind fences etc. I've been told by people who are more agile that there is abandoned rail stock on some of it as well but I am not able to verify that.
I Live a good 20 minutes south in near by River Forest and I actually saw this in person a couple times. Trying to find out who owns the thing with the METX gallery cars and the two IC Pullmans so I can buy and restore them. For excursion services
tiny house streetcars are super cool... I'd live in one
if i had the money i would go restorig as many trains and machines as possible
That’s a noble goal
ive been to this train! its awesome and fun to explore just be careful for occasional security checks
I really enjoyed this awesome video, but it made me kind of sad to see this abandoned and neglected engine. You can tell It used to be awesome. I Hope someone somehow can save it and restore it. That would be awesome!!!
I think all the trains are awesome subs should pitch in and save it together!
Thom, I love your vids!
Thanks!
Question is: Can you get there with the 233 bus? ;-)
Yes, plus a veeeery long walk
It's a shame that the fox valley trolly museum or the Illinois railway museum can't take the loco and restore it
I’m afraid they might be too far deteriorated by now
@@Thom-TRA you are right about that.
👍video!
Dang, I knew some people had hard feelings against gallery cars, but that's just brutal!
There is a Burlington northern train at the Illinois railway museum that is number 9908. I never rode that one, but it is restored. It originally had the original Burlington northern livery, but today, it has a black and white striped livery. I liked it better with the original livery, despite me not seeing it in the original livery.
Wait that was 9919 that got the executive livery.
If you ride the Metra Milwaukee district north line from lake forest to libertyville immediately after the WSOR branches off from the CPKC main line you will see a long stretch of abandoned gallery cars similar to the ones in the video.
There are also a bunch of abandoned cars on the MDW near Elgin
They should give them to me :3 I can be trusted with locomotives :3
i love the vido as always thom
Thank you!
Its really sad to see pieces of railroad history just rotting away from our very eyes, I'm hoping that a museum or a tourist railroad gets them, but unfortunately getting these passenger cars and locomotive there is not that easy, it will probably require having to contact a museum/tourist railroad ( Illinois Railway Museum, Steam Railroading Institute, National Museum of Transportation, Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad, Mid Continent Railway Museum, etc) and also to top of that they just don't have much money lying around, which will require them to get money from via donations to help save them
It would be so expensive to move them. That’s probably why the host railroad hasn’t even bothered moving them.
2:47 B R I A N
E9s are common for metro north in the 1990s too
If I had the money, space, and time I would definitely restore them and donate them to a railroad museum like IRM.
There are so many train projects I would do if I had the money, space, and time!
I'm not a big train guy, BUT I do enjoy "stalking" old train lines to see where they used to serve businesses.
So sad to see!
Truly!
Here’s a random fact: The cab car at the end of the BN was the same one involved in the Fox River Grove bus train collision
One of those trains struck a lady and it was caught on film in 1990 (I think it’s loco 9912)
No, it was in 1991
But it was 9912
There's a British Transport Film called 'Plumb Loco'.
I hate train scraping
Iowa Pacific, before 2021 bankruptcy,
had their E9 locos and passenger cars in that area.
Yes. These are those.
Jeez, I saw that BN E9A while ago, that thing is getting worse and worse by the minute
It’s sad what neglect will do
Would make for a pretty cool house.
Pretty poor isolation probably
Can the diesel locomotive can pull the abandoned train?
No, there is no engine in there
Took a minute but i actually found it on a map. Maybe ill cruise up there someday
Yeah it took me a minute too
I don’t want watch the video of the Downers Grove accident. I believe that it will be a bit too gruesome for my liking
I wouldn’t watch it either
That video is worth a single watch. Just so you learn the lesson to not cross the tracks when you don’t have a clear view of the tracks.
So what can you just like... take them home?
Do you like… have a bag big enough?
I wonder why they restored 9908
Da first train have a disturbing story search train girl
Use your brain. It’s not that train. I literally say so in the video. Some people…
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thom in a car. I don't know.
Felt unnatural didn’t it? At least it wasn’t mine
Rip 9907
Locomotives/ not traines.
Locomotives are trains. And there are many passenger cars too. Weird comment.
jus been here
Nice
Firsto
I Just dropped a visual from inside 👀
Can you please pin me? I am a huge fan of trains.
I love trains too!
This train hit a woman
No it didn’t. Did you even watch the video?
@@Thom-TRA yes ofc I love your videos may be it the wrong train but one of them did look it up
@@Thom-TRA I can copy the link but it’s real
Her name was Mary t Watson I think
@@Michael_afton698 once again, that wasn’t this train. Maybe read some of the other comments.