Unfortunately mate that's the cruel reality which they're trying to hide behind the curtain of the "free world" they're exporting to us an image to a free world and land of opportunities and freedom then you see the reality and you find that there's no such a thing they're just trying to wash their hands of the crimes they make in the shadows
@PoeticAmmunition. No, but decent, intelligent people see the scenes in Gaza, understand that Israel is defending itself against genocidal terrorists, and know the "Palestinians" had it coming.
As a Kiwi born of an Englishman, this horror plays out here, too. I’m not sure of the exact numbers for youth, but I know we jail the highest proportion of indigenous women in the world. Which, to be perfectly clear, is disgusting.
Colonisers are the same everywhere. They are not particularly bright, just evil. This one world gov is the true aim of colonising, so no surprise that NZ & I'm sure Australia are truly infiltrated . I don't think the Roman empire ever ceased, which now looks like the British empire working through the USA & Israel
Hamas and their supporters usual tactics. They slaughter and have violated pretty much every rule of war then turn around and claim the Israelis did it. Their arrogance is astounding.
These kids are often taken from their beds at home, their parents are often denied communication with them and stopped by check points if they try to visit them.
@@МихаилАндроновИзраильbye bye hades! Go and sit on satanyahu's lap. The evidence is out there in the open. You refuse to take it serious so why would anyone wast their breath on you? You keep listening to satanyahu untill it's your time to fall victim to the hanibal lecture. And by that time you'll cry yourself a river ukrainian onist nutsee!
Who says? Where is the evidence? You mean like the many videos of Palestinian men and women hugging their " dead " babies and dramatically crying out that the IDF just murdered their baby? Except the baby gets restless and starts squirming. Or " Frozen Babies in Gaza " blaming the Israelis except the day this was supposed to have happened it was 67 degrees F? Don't believe every ridiculous absurd nonsense put out by people that never even fact check.
The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial.
You mean like Sinwar, Hamas and UNWRA all had UN member cards? UNWRA also members of Hamas imprisoning hostages. Your comment clearly shows you know nothing.
@ So, you support terrorists. Nice. Talk about being brainwashed and not capable of fact checking anything. Just like the Italian young man that was so enamored with the plight of the Palestinians so he went to Gaza and offered his services to fight alongside Hamas to kill Jews. Hamas shortly after posted a photo of what they did to him, his bloody mutilated dead body. He wasn't Muslim.
Meanwhile so many Americans 100% support isnotreal "promised land" and refused to have .00001% of compassion for the Palestinians! Im ashamed to be a human
The Hamas hostages are all members Israeli Defence forces. Similar to Sweden, at age twenty citizens are required to join the military for a couple years and serve in the Reserves until age 40.
The term "t errorist" has no meaning. Defence for Children International was declared a t errorist org for reporting what the a partheid settler c olonial entity has been doing to Palestinian children in lsraeli military prison ie physical beatings, strip searches, s exual a buses, sleep deprivation, no right to lawyer etc. Save the Children prepared their own documentation that can be cross checked with the Defence for Children International.
@johnblack6819 "Jewish Colonisation Association" "The Palestine Jewish Colonisation Association" "The Jewish Colonial Trust" Zionist leader Ze'ev Jabotinsky, 1923: "Zionism is a colonizing adventure and, therefore, it stands or falls on the question of armed forces." Za’ev Jabotinsky, one of the forefathers of Zionism said, “We Jews have nothing in common with what is called the Orient, thank God. To the extent that our uneducated masses [Arab Jews] have ancient spiritual traditions and laws that call the Orient, they must be weaned away from them, and this is in fact what we are doing in every decent school, what life itself is doing with great success. We are going in Palestine, first for our national convenience, [second] to sweep out thoroughly all traces of the Oriental soul.” Theodor Herzl called it, "something colonial". He said, " ...we should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilisation as opposed to barbarism.” The same mentality is alive even now. Zionist president Isaac Herzog on MSNBC: "This war is not only a war between Israel and Hamas, it's a war that is intended, really, truly, to save Western civilisation. To save the values of Western civilisation." Palestine is part of the East. The entity is proudly part of the west. The made-up term "the Middle East" separated our western asian brothers from us fareastern asians. The foreign entity is of the west, as they keep reminding the world. Thus it will be expelled with the inevitable rise of the Far East.
this is such, such an important thing to recognize before saying a single word about the current phase of the ethnic cleansing. To detach this reality from the story would be to judge a painting in absolute darkness
Salute 🫡 to ❤️ all the ppl who supported children of Palestine 🇵🇸 and rally on the streets calling for ceasefire ❤free Palestine ❤️ 🇵🇸 free Palestinian hostages now
Thank you for being so vocal and concise about this topic, and recognizing and bringing awareness that this happens in the US too. For too long Americans have been misled to believe that the US is the greatest country in the world and no corruption happens here. As you said, this type of behavior is a hallmark of settler colonies, including the US.
Thank you for showing the reality Kp up the good work And bringing awareness to this injustices And genocide to humanity They are children and bcoz of the religion Been abused and the world turns the blind eyes Praying for justice on behalf of the oppressed 😢
Thank you for saying this. Everyone makes me feel crazy for hating the state of society but I'm so close to the epicenter of the drama and I can't unsee the destruction.
Does Israel have a minimum age of criminal responsibility? Being from the other side of the world with virtually no knowledge of what Israel has been doing over the years but now catching up, I am horrified to hear these things if they are true.
And the 350,000 missing children that are delivered to strip joints or disappear? From coming illegally across border? Smuggling children into USA, then they disappear??? Something big and evil going on there.😢
Thanks Sims for highlighting these evils. I cannot understand what drives these evils. We are the only animal species that destroys our own children. Other animals will fight to death to protect their young.
“Since its establishment, Israel has engaged in brutal oppression of the rights of Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians are imprisoned, beaten and tortured; children are taken from their beds and beaten by soldiers who are armed to the teeth.”-Miko Peled.
Not true. When the UN suggested the two state solution in 1947, the Arabs in Palestine started a civil war against the Jews. In previous attacks, the British who owned Mandatory Palestine had defended the Jews, the Jews hadn't responded. In the civil war they had to. When the two state solution was implements in 1948 and the British withdrew, the surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel with the promise of the genocide of the Jews (no British there to defend the Jews which is why they waited). They promised the Palestinians the Jewish homes and farms once they had wiped out the Jews. That was never achieved though. Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria, ethnically cleansed all Jews and annexed the region, renaming it their West Bank. Israel regained it in 1967 after the 6 Day War against the Arab nations (again), but people say that Israel are the 'occupiers'. The irony. Because the Arabs lost that war, they have been continuously attacking Israel ever since. Everything Israel does is done as a means to defend itself, but rather than accept that the Arabs/Palestinians start these conflicts, they ignore that and say the consequences of Israel defending itself are acts of oppression etc. If they left Israel alone, Israel would have no reason to respond. October 7th is a perfect example. If the Palestinians want peace and a happy life, they should not have voted in a terrorist organisation like Hamas, or the PLO. Blame them not Israel. Same for Hezbollah. Nobody wants the Palestinians, that's why when Israel and Egypt withdrew from Gaza in 2005, Egypt closed it's border, bombed and flooded the terrorist tunnels, and later built a moat = all to keep out the terrorist people of Gaza. They had caused too much trouble and Egypt didn't want any more instability, especially in the Sinai Peninsula. Israel on the other hand left the border open, but Hamas was using it to smuggle weapons etc into Gaza and began firing rockets into Israel. So much for the Palestinians becoming prosperous after gaining their independence and autonomy. After two years of attacks, Israel had to restrict and monitor the border in order to defend itself. Jordan wont take any more Palestinians because they they are terrorists. As the PLO they tried to overthrow the Jordan monarchy, assassinated their prime minster ans caused a civil war (Black September). The rich Saudis won't take them because of the terrorist contingent. Israel has done more to help the Palestinians than any Arab nation. All the Arab nations do is sent them money and weapons to kill Jews. Of course Israel is going to jail people for terrorism, just like we do here in the west, including children that are brought up to be terrorists and taught to kill Israelis. No one that is imprisoned by Israel is innocent, that's just terrorist propaganda and misinformation parroted by people who believe the propaganda.
I feel like I'm reading fiction..... My brain can't comprehend this is reality and the media is gaslighting it's existence
7t isn't reality. it is fiction, like all of "palestine" is pure made up bs
Unfortunately mate that's the cruel reality which they're trying to hide behind the curtain of the "free world" they're exporting to us an image to a free world and land of opportunities and freedom then you see the reality and you find that there's no such a thing they're just trying to wash their hands of the crimes they make in the shadows
@jeffreywilheim5970 oh, how are you benefiting from Palestinian genocide?
@jeffreywilheim5970 the eyes don't lie
@PoeticAmmunition. No, but decent, intelligent people see the scenes in Gaza, understand that Israel is defending itself against genocidal terrorists, and know the "Palestinians" had it coming.
And now with the ceasefire happening in Gaza, Israel target the West bank. Especially what happening in Jenin
@@skysea5786
And violating the ceasefire in South of Gaza Rafah, and lebanon
True also in lebanon they killed more today
Keep 😢 losers in life always 😢 Kuffars don’t give a F ! 🇬🇧🇮🇳🇮🇱🙏🏽
Pure Evil.
Exactly what Norman Finkelstein has mentioned many times over. Women, children, youths and men arresting them and placed in prison without trial.
It's called Adrenochrome.
Children who are already seasoned killers are not innocent children.
Amen. Shades of Epstein's Island.
He was an israeli that worked for netanyah and ehud barak was a client..@@charlesclaridy8646
As a Kiwi born of an Englishman, this horror plays out here, too.
I’m not sure of the exact numbers for youth, but I know we jail the highest proportion of indigenous women in the world. Which, to be perfectly clear, is disgusting.
it is a lie. "palestinians" aren't indigenousnppl and they live their very best life.
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Trolling is bad for the soul - if you have one 😊
Colonisers are the same everywhere.
They are not particularly bright, just evil.
This one world gov is the true aim of colonising, so no surprise that NZ & I'm sure Australia are truly infiltrated .
I don't think the Roman empire ever ceased, which now looks like the British empire working through the USA & Israel
@@albb-b6r BOOT H>ASBARA
@sharonmill You should interview them on live. We want to see them and hear their story.
Every accusation they make is a confession to their own crimes
that is antisemitism. this is what hamas are doing.
Yes, that's right: everything pro-"Palestinian" people say is a confession of their own crimes.
Hamas and their supporters usual tactics. They slaughter and have violated pretty much every rule of war then turn around and claim the Israelis did it. Their arrogance is astounding.
Absolutely.!!!
Absolutely
End the occupation. Free Palestine ❤️🇵🇸❤️
Thank you Sim for your integrity
I agree. No person deserves that treatment, let alone a child. Thank you for your voice. Take care
These kids are often taken from their beds at home, their parents are often denied communication with them and stopped by check points if they try to visit them.
Could you please provide facts?
@@МихаилАндроновИзраильbye bye hades! Go and sit on satanyahu's lap. The evidence is out there in the open.
You refuse to take it serious so why would anyone wast their breath on you? You keep listening to satanyahu untill it's your time to fall victim to the hanibal lecture. And by that time you'll cry yourself a river ukrainian onist nutsee!
Who says? Where is the evidence? You mean like the many videos of Palestinian men and women hugging their " dead " babies and dramatically crying out that the IDF just murdered their baby? Except the baby gets restless and starts squirming. Or " Frozen Babies in Gaza " blaming the Israelis except the day this was supposed to have happened it was 67 degrees F? Don't believe every ridiculous absurd nonsense put out by people that never even fact check.
Absolutely horrifying
The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial.
There are no words to describe how evil these people (¿?) is. As a father, I am horrified.
Read the Talmud
They are the ones who fund Epstein remember?
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no ¿for what?
@@miguelbissieres3736 to understand the origins
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no you want me to believe you have read the Talmud ? 😂 🤦🏽
Thank you for continuing to speak out about these atrocities.
Don't be gullible.
@@katiedaniels3997I agree. Israelis one media narrative has been them gullible to government propaganda too.
Thank you for speaking the truth and calling out the hypocrisy of American media
Every criticism I have of Israel is always something I've been critical of here in the States.
*International Court of Justice must free all the children , teenage , women , men......"Every Human Is Born Free"*
Absolutely, I totally agree with you!
Sure, like they have done anything so far.
That's just not true! Most humans are born into some form of slavery and convinced thru brainwashing they're not.
Thank you!!!💕
Imagine having your 14 y.o being separated from you and taken to prison 😭😭😭
Imagine allowing your 14-year-old to engage in acts of terrorism because you don't like their religious and ethnic identity.
boohoo. just imagine, bc it's no more than imagination.
Ur fake news
Aisha was 6yrs old and classed as a woman 😂 You are nuts ! Mum n dad must also be uncle and auntie 😂
America needs change thank you for speaking out about the atrocities and the organisations and efforts against these injustices.
The whole world does at this point
Children who are already seasoned killers are not innocent children. Hamas teaches children to be terrorists.
Big thanks to you great sister ❤❤
A voice of reason in this insane world. I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone.
That's because you are. She is misrepresenting the facts.
So clear, so right. Needs to be said again and again and again. ❤
Said where? The algorithm buries any mention of Palestinians.
@@Kryojenixoverwhelm the algorithm by saying it again and again.
You’re an amazing person Sim, the bravery to speak the truth takes a lot of sacrifice nowadays!
Thank you Sister for Speaking Upp❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much for your work and honesty and good luck with your book ❤
All fiction.
Yet they always use victim card. Now everthing is clear.
You mean like Sinwar, Hamas and UNWRA all had UN member cards? UNWRA also members of Hamas imprisoning hostages. Your comment clearly shows you know nothing.
@@katiedaniels3997 Your comment clearly shows you know nothing but what you've been brainwashed to believe!
@ So, you support terrorists. Nice. Talk about being brainwashed and not capable of fact checking anything. Just like the Italian young man that was so enamored with the plight of the Palestinians so he went to Gaza and offered his services to fight alongside Hamas to kill Jews. Hamas shortly after posted a photo of what they did to him, his bloody mutilated dead body. He wasn't Muslim.
@@katiedaniels3997 It was already exposed that UNWRA members were coerced by the IDF through physical harm into admitting to being Hamas members.
Meanwhile so many Americans 100% support isnotreal "promised land" and refused to have .00001% of compassion for the Palestinians! Im ashamed to be a human
0:18 The children are also often forced to sign 'confessions', written in Hebrew (which they can't read), and face military tribunals.
And they have the audacity to say it started in October 7.
It did. This child is. another ifiot falling for lies and spreading lies.
1920 Battle of Tel Hai
Yeah, the big bang was also on oct 7. Nothing ever happened in this world before that day.
@@cygnemignon5507 the war started on oct 7th. again it's the arabs attacking israel.
"palestine" is a liem
@@Rexorazor it did. hamas started the war on oct 7th.
"occupation, palestinr, blabla" are all lies. none of that is true.
Beautiful channel ❤️ Thanks for truth.
Disgusting, Satanyahu should be held accountable.
Not only him
But issraellu society too.
They support him.
The majority is with him.
@@tbitbi4427 Yes definitely all of them egging on their filthy government to keep doing their worse.
He's a moderate in their society
@@tbitbi4427exactely all Israëliens is complice !!
he will and the god chosen losers too only they don't know it.
They are vile😢
I love your videos. Can't wait for your book.
Absolutely soul crushing...where is the justice??😢
Great lady she represent humanity. God bless her.
Thanks
Great one as usual!
Thank you for being so brave and speaking out for the weak and often vilified people!
The Hamas hostages are all members Israeli Defence forces. Similar to Sweden, at age twenty citizens are required to join the military for a couple years and serve in the Reserves until age 40.
Yes baby Bibas.
POW's if you could call it a war, on humans in a prison camp
They are not all IDF. Some are children; one is Alex Danzig, a 75yo historian.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Alex Danzig's parents were Communists.
Alex Danzig's parents were Communists.
Good luck with your book..❤
RESPECT and GRATITUDE for all true pple standing up for the Truth and against occupation oppression war crimes from occupyers against humanity.
I love your videos.. We thank you for who you are 😃
The term "t errorist" has no meaning. Defence for Children International was declared a t errorist org for reporting what the a partheid settler c olonial entity has been doing to Palestinian children in lsraeli military prison ie physical beatings, strip searches, s exual a buses, sleep deprivation, no right to lawyer etc. Save the Children prepared their own documentation that can be cross checked with the Defence for Children International.
Herzi HaLevi's ancestors on his mothers side go back 16 generations on this land. Settler invader narrative is nonsense.
@johnblack6819 "Jewish Colonisation Association"
"The Palestine Jewish Colonisation Association"
"The Jewish Colonial Trust"
Zionist leader Ze'ev Jabotinsky, 1923: "Zionism is a colonizing adventure and, therefore, it stands or falls on the question of armed forces."
Za’ev Jabotinsky, one of the forefathers of Zionism said, “We Jews have nothing in common with what is called the Orient, thank God. To the extent that our uneducated masses [Arab Jews] have ancient spiritual traditions and laws that call the Orient, they must be weaned away from them, and this is in fact what we are doing in every decent school, what life itself is doing with great success. We are going in Palestine, first for our national convenience, [second] to sweep out thoroughly all traces of the Oriental soul.”
Theodor Herzl called it, "something colonial". He said, " ...we should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilisation as opposed to barbarism.”
The same mentality is alive even now. Zionist president Isaac Herzog on MSNBC: "This war is not only a war between Israel and Hamas, it's a war that is intended, really, truly, to save Western civilisation. To save the values of Western civilisation."
Palestine is part of the East. The entity is proudly part of the west. The made-up term "the Middle East" separated our western asian brothers from us fareastern asians. The foreign entity is of the west, as they keep reminding the world. Thus it will be expelled with the inevitable rise of the Far East.
Great channel ✌️
Thank you for everything and for your courage
Thank you very much.
Thanks for your work Bro 😀🙏👊
I love your honesty , I huge from my heart ❤️ I will participate
Thank you❤❤
All accusations by Zio is an Admission of what they do x 1000%
In South America, too. They're everywhere.
Billions in foreign aid to this nation every year.
Evil as all can see.
❤❤ thank you!
You deserve the best Miss. Sim May Allah protect you and bless you🤲🏼 thank you for ur humanity!
Thank you for being a strong voice for humanity. ❤️
It's called Adrenochrome.
thank you 🙏
What does Trump have to say about Palestinian hostages? Nothing...😡
I PRE-ORDERED YOUR BOOK A MONTH AGO... CANT WAIT!
this is such, such an important thing to recognize before saying a single word about the current phase of the ethnic cleansing. To detach this reality from the story would be to judge a painting in absolute darkness
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your good work and timeous reminders.
Every child matters 🧡🧡🧡 America built schools on the graves of children killed in residential detention centers. That is the colonizers way
This has been going on for decades more than 20 years, many you just waking up to truth but this has been ongoing over 80 years
AGAIN IGNORANT PERSON U HAVE TO DO RESEARCH WONT KILL YOU TO LOOK UP: TRUTH
Sim, you're awesome! 🫶
Thankyou ❤️ 🖤
Salute 🫡 to ❤️ all the ppl who supported children of Palestine 🇵🇸 and rally on the streets calling for ceasefire ❤free Palestine ❤️ 🇵🇸 free Palestinian hostages now
And they claim it starts at october 7th.
It just gets more horrifying the more I know.
Empathy is important 🧡
It's the beginning of change.
It's called " Adrenochrome " .
You go GIRL!!! Truth and more truth.
Thank you, please continue to speak up for them 🇵🇸
Young and with a big untainted heart. Bless you who have commited to Truth!
Thank You 🙏🏾
You are an amazing commentator thank you 🙏🏽
Big accusation requires big evidence.
Double standards of the champions of human rights and freedom
Thank you for speaking the truth
THE WORLD MUST KNOW... some of these kids were murdered
Thank you Sim for your integrity
Thank you for stand with humanity, free Palestine 🇵🇸
Free America from AIPAC!
Thank you for being so vocal and concise about this topic, and recognizing and bringing awareness that this happens in the US too. For too long Americans have been misled to believe that the US is the greatest country in the world and no corruption happens here. As you said, this type of behavior is a hallmark of settler colonies, including the US.
Nice report ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for showing the reality
Kp up the good work
And bringing awareness to this injustices
And genocide to humanity
They are children and bcoz of the religion
Been abused and the world turns the blind eyes
Praying for justice on behalf of the oppressed
😢
How is this acceptable, why is human rights not standing up for these children 😢
They are standing up.
The war criminals In the Governments of isnotreal and the us
Imagine justifying having children prisoners
Thank you for pointing this to rest of the world.
Can you tell us the cut-off date for pre-ordering the deluxe edition?
Good work by you and may God protect you
this is horrifying1, i can't see how anyone can defend this regime
War criminals
Thank you for saying this. Everyone makes me feel crazy for hating the state of society but I'm so close to the epicenter of the drama and I can't unsee the destruction.
You know exactly what those monsters are doing to those children! It's disgusting
Does Israel have a minimum age of criminal responsibility? Being from the other side of the world with virtually no knowledge of what Israel has been doing over the years but now catching up, I am horrified to hear these things if they are true.
And the 350,000 missing children that are delivered to strip joints or disappear? From coming illegally across border?
Smuggling children into USA, then they disappear???
Something big and evil going on there.😢
Thanks Sims for highlighting these evils. I cannot understand what drives these evils. We are the only animal species that destroys our own children. Other animals will fight to death to protect their young.
Notice how they are never called hostages but instead detainees?
You go, girl! ❤
In case you were wondering where your tax dollars are going.
Thank you madam
“Since its establishment, Israel has engaged in brutal oppression of the rights of Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians are imprisoned, beaten and tortured; children are taken from their beds and beaten by soldiers who are armed to the teeth.”-Miko Peled.
Not true. When the UN suggested the two state solution in 1947, the Arabs in Palestine started a civil war against the Jews. In previous attacks, the British who owned Mandatory Palestine had defended the Jews, the Jews hadn't responded. In the civil war they had to. When the two state solution was implements in 1948 and the British withdrew, the surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel with the promise of the genocide of the Jews (no British there to defend the Jews which is why they waited). They promised the Palestinians the Jewish homes and farms once they had wiped out the Jews. That was never achieved though. Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria, ethnically cleansed all Jews and annexed the region, renaming it their West Bank. Israel regained it in 1967 after the 6 Day War against the Arab nations (again), but people say that Israel are the 'occupiers'. The irony.
Because the Arabs lost that war, they have been continuously attacking Israel ever since. Everything Israel does is done as a means to defend itself, but rather than accept that the Arabs/Palestinians start these conflicts, they ignore that and say the consequences of Israel defending itself are acts of oppression etc. If they left Israel alone, Israel would have no reason to respond. October 7th is a perfect example.
If the Palestinians want peace and a happy life, they should not have voted in a terrorist organisation like Hamas, or the PLO. Blame them not Israel. Same for Hezbollah.
Nobody wants the Palestinians, that's why when Israel and Egypt withdrew from Gaza in 2005, Egypt closed it's border, bombed and flooded the terrorist tunnels, and later built a moat = all to keep out the terrorist people of Gaza. They had caused too much trouble and Egypt didn't want any more instability, especially in the Sinai Peninsula. Israel on the other hand left the border open, but Hamas was using it to smuggle weapons etc into Gaza and began firing rockets into Israel. So much for the Palestinians becoming prosperous after gaining their independence and autonomy. After two years of attacks, Israel had to restrict and monitor the border in order to defend itself.
Jordan wont take any more Palestinians because they they are terrorists. As the PLO they tried to overthrow the Jordan monarchy, assassinated their prime minster ans caused a civil war (Black September). The rich Saudis won't take them because of the terrorist contingent.
Israel has done more to help the Palestinians than any Arab nation. All the Arab nations do is sent them money and weapons to kill Jews. Of course Israel is going to jail people for terrorism, just like we do here in the west, including children that are brought up to be terrorists and taught to kill Israelis. No one that is imprisoned by Israel is innocent, that's just terrorist propaganda and misinformation parroted by people who believe the propaganda.
BRAVO !❤❤❤
Thank you
You are an angel and a real humane person