Opposing Likud/Revisionism isn't antisemitic, unless you consider Einstein antisemitic. Likud's bloody 100 year history ... In 1923, 100 years ago, Ze'ev Jabotinsky wrote, The Iron Wall, and a follow up, The Ethics of The Iron Wall (sooo racist towards Africans), in which he fully acknowledged that post Balfour Zionsim was colonialism, and that, based on the entirety of history, the native Palestinian population would resist being colonized until the bitter end. He directly compared it to the colonization of North America. He promoted doing it anyway, claiming Zionist colonialism was a "just" colonialism (he also thought North American colonialists were good guys, so not a great judge of morality), not caring what that meant for the native population. Ze'ev is important, because his Betar militant youth group helped found the Irgun terrorist group, along with other supporters of his, and the splinter Lehi terrorist group. The Irgun bombed numerous Palestinian markets and other public places, murdering many Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who didn't support colonialist Zionsim). The Irgun are important, because they ended up being led by future Likud PM, Menachem Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel. The King David Hotel was bombed because the British had raided the Jewish Agency and seized numerous documents that may have shown that the terrorists were working with the JA and Haganah (JA liked to pretend that they didn't support the terrorism). The British then stored those documents at their base, in the hotel. That the Irgun terrorists responded to a JA raid, itself seems to prove the connection. That the thousands of Irgun (and Lehi) terrorists were also quickly merged into the new nation's military (IDF) and intelligence (Mossad) agencies, and are still celebrated as "heroes" by Israelis, to this day, also seems to support total collaboration between the groups. That other terrorist group mentioned, Lehi (also known as the Stern Gang), was considered even more extreme. They even tried to ally with the Nazis, against the British. Lehi ended up being led by Yitzhak Shamir, future Mossad agent, and another future Likud PM. They assassinated Lord Moyne, and others. The two terrorist groups also operated outside of Palestine. The Irgun bombed the British Embassy at Porta Pia, in Rome. The Lehi bombed the British Colonial Club, in London. A timer failed in another bombing attempt, at the Colonial Office, in Whitehall. Two female Lehi operatives were arrested crossing from Belgium to France, with the ingredients for letter bombs. 21 letter bombs were found to be have sent, and were intercepted. They mined the Cairo-Haifa train, in Egypt, twice, killing dozens of civilians, as well as British soldiers. In 1945, there was a major land and peoples survey done in Palestine. It showed that the Zionists only owned about 5% of the total land, 20% of the arable land, and owned a majority in zero districts. The partition was not only going to be forced on the native Palestinian majority, but Jews were still going to be a minority, in the part allocated to them. The only possible way to even become a "Jewish state" was going to require getting rid of the actual majority (at least enough so that there'd be a solid Jewish majority, so they could fake being democratic). This is also shown by the 1948, post Nakba, population of Israel. If there was 716,700 Jews, 156,000+ non-Jews, and approximately 700k non-Jews ethnically cleansed, that means the Jewish population, in the Zionist portion of partition, was originally over 100,000 less than the non-Jewish population. To believe that there was never any intent, by Zionists, to ethnically cleanse away the Palestinian majority would require believing that they never intended to create a "Jewish state". It's a nonsensical notion. Begin, and those terrorist groups, also opposed partition, but for the opposite reason Palestinians did. Palestinians didn't want to be colonized, at all. The terrorists wanted to colonize it all. "Moderate" Zionists were okay with colonizing half ... for now (what would happen in the future, after partition, was up to them, said Ben-Gurion). The Zionist terrorists were also involved in massacres, and assassinations, during the partition violence (colonialist war against the natives). Another notable future Likud PM, also started in the military, during the partition fighting. That was Ariel Sharon, war criminal, "Butcher of Beirut". Menachem Begin, and these other Zionist terrorists, are important because they became involved in Israeli politics, first forming Herut. That was the party that Albert Einstein, and other prominent American Jews, opposed, having a letter printed in the NYT, in December of 1948, when Begin came to visit the US. The letter opened ... "Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." Herut merged with other extremist parties, over the years, and eventually became Likud, in the 70s. Now, people get upset over the slogan "From the river to the sea!", but it's the second part that's most important, "Palestine will be free!". Because "Palestine" isn't defined as an ethno-state, a free Palestine can be a single state, free for all to live in, and return to, free of continuing colonization, free of occupation, free of oppression, etc. Just like a Germany free of Nazism, an Italy free of fascism, a South Africa free of apartheid, or an America free of slavery from sea to shiny sea. It doesn't necessitate purging all the Jews. It just necessitates them giving up on the idea of an ethno-state. On the other hand, because "Israel" has been defined as an ethno-state, Likud's, "between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", has no possible good interpretation. It is a declaration of intent to completely colonize, and ethnically cleanse, all Palestine territories. Not only that, but it also claims that they have a "right" to all of the "Land of Israel" (biblical borders that don't mesh with archaeological reality), which is an open declaration of future wars, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly even Iraq. Likud platform ... 1977: "The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel) a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace." 1999: "The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs." "The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting." All Palestine territories are officially considered occupied, by the International Court of Justice, the UN GA, the UN SC, and even in official documents of Israel's own allies. Likud is still using the blueprint for colonizing North America, in the West Bank. Move settlements out into native territory, piss off the natives, the natives retaliate, cry about poor "innocent" colonizing settlers being the "victims" of violent "Savages!", call in the cavalry to put down the native uprising, and eventually expand the borders to include those settlements. Rinse and repeat. In Gaza, Israel is operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto. Them claiming a "right to defend themselves" would be like the Nazis claiming a "right to defend themselves " from the Warsaw ghetto uprising. There's no "war". That they're the occupiers means the "war" part is long over. Those people are actually supposed to be under the occupier's protection. That partition was forced upon the Palestinian majority, against their will ... that the Zionist portion still had to be forcefully ethnically cleansed of its non-Jewish majority, against their will ... that the millions of occupied Palestinians don't have a say in the government that truly rules over them, Israel's ... means Israel is about as democratic as Nazi Germany after Hitler purged his political opponents and then held elections.
@@highdesertbiker ari shaffir does not have a single fan anywhere on earth with an IQ over fucking 80, you absolute inbred vermin. soon you will have no place to hide. cope harder moshe... shalom ;)
@@Pablo_Deehe's saying it's irrational for the ordinary person to involve themselves or get emotionally invested in matters that don't affect them. He's also saying the media tends to hyperfocus on certain matters which blows them out of proportion. I disagree with his perspective, but I can understand why he chooses to live like that.
IT becomes anti Semitic, if you're constantly critiquing things that you would not only not criticize, but actively support, had another other country conducted itself in the same manner. Is the war justified? Yes. Is the combatant to civilian death particularly bad? not even close - its actually REALLY impressive for a war taking place entirely in urban environments.
@@kurolap7882 So you think people opposing Israel genocide of children and women anti-semitic? Well the word have lost its meaning. You guys call people who are anti-genocide anti-semitic. Good luck with that.
The word antisemitism and what it means don’t have any substance to a western historically christian person. Someone making a label that is meant to creative a pejorative out of criticizing them is self serving and appeals to no ethical common ground. If a guy named Jeff said “criticizing me is anti-jeffism guys and that’s not right” you would laugh in his face.
Just like how criticizing your loved ones doesn't mean you hate them. We live in a world where you can't cast judgement or tell people what you really think of them without them turning on you.
I feel that those ear pods 😂 sponsors if you know what i'm talking about are on to someting to make howie say such thing. I see that he was really nervous when he was talking to ari.
@@mcbltgaming3694 who is talking about black men??? The fact is that Mandel was expecting Ari to join him in his victim mentality narrative, and Ari was not having it. Nice try at trying to deflect and play the race card tho.
Indeed. A lot of people now have been drummed up and conditioned into an obsession of thinking that experiencing the world through the incredibly distorted lens of internet media is somehow more real than experiencing actual reality - real people and day-to-day life. It's also important to note actually that when we get absorbed into social media and online media and forums etc etc, we are also not even experiencing ourselves realistically...who else notices this? The mind gets enormously distorted when hooked so much into the fake reality of the internet. Yes, the internet can be used as a great tool for learning and finding some entertainment, but we massively overuse it and get absorbed into strange propagandized and twisted false realities when we do so. Governments and big businesses know this too, to varying degrees. Even if it's something as seemingly innocent as just companies advertising things, it's relentless here. It used to be we'd occasionally see some billboards and ads on tv, but we'd spend most of our time in the real world and talking to real people and trying to solve real problems. The internet has become the most hyper-intense and endlessly saturated commercial machine, news media (no, not just mainstream either...), opinioneering and downright propaganda tool the world has ever known. Everyone is trying to distort your thinking to get you to follow a certain cause or sell you something, make you vote for someone or even just to plain old get you to click their links. Businesses make billions of dollars now just by doing and saying anything they can to make you click links. Just think how different that entire business model is from anything that's come before it and how dangerous it is for people's minds and outlooks.
@@DM-kv9kjThank you for that. It felt like a wake up call I needed because somewhere along the way I fell back asleep and needed to hear this sort of thing again. I hope I can take the gist of your comment with me. Cheers
Holy fuck. Respect to Ari for saying how he feels instead of being a yes-men. He could’ve easily go along but actually stated how he not only feels but has experienced the actual world.
I mean, this is Ari Shaffir we're talking about. He could think anti-semitism is the greatest threat in the world, but as soon as someone says as much, he'll do a complete 180. Ari is one of my favorite comedians, but at his core, he's a no-man, which is every bit as stupid and silly as a yes-man.
@@estebancomuletby the zionists, the silly 'birthrite' trips to the motherland, all all the crying joooos around him poking people in the eye and then claiming victimhood. If people like Howie weren't the perpetual victim, they wouldn't know who they were.
Ari who has openly worn his Jewwyness on his chest for 20 years (and is serenaded with “JewJewjajew” whenever he walks into a podcast) versus Howie who many of us didn’t even know was jewish
In my experience, if you get an anti-Zionist talking long enough to exhaust their anti-Zionist points, they will eventually espouse genuine anti-semitism. Not always, but usually.
I can only imagine how much mossad is freaking out about them completely losing the social media battle. Only jews and old people are strong, vocal zionists now.
Because everyone sees their true intention is to total push the Palestinians out of Israel. Go back and look at the map from when they first arrived in Israel after the UN brought them back.
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Hamas is a terrorist organization that has blood on its hands. For silly, clueless people in the West, it is a 'PR war'. While Israel (and UAE/Saudi and other neighbors) want Hamas/the Iranian theocracy gone for good. The latter will happen sooner or later, regardless of all the social media noise and virtual signaling generated, primarily, by the West.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If policies of Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Dehumanization,Pogroms,Mass Graves,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated ▪︎Doesn't amount to Holocaust?
As someone who has been to pro-Palestinian rallies I can definitely say it's safe for Jews to walk by because many Jews attend, speak, and even HOST these rallies.
He's not telling the whole truth, he admitted to as much in not going to college campuses. Which means he's basically ignorant about something everyone else sees with their own eyes. He is downplaying hysteria where it's needed as well. Howie's overplay and Ari's underplay mean they both need each other's perspectives. That's America in a nutshell.
@@machtnichtsseimann it's not underplaying to acknowledge that certain places have nothing to do with your life. 99% of the population does not regularly visit a college campus so to pretend that what is happening at one dictates the events of your life is asinine. Real people don't hate Jewish people real people don't hate black people real people aren't looking to argue or fight in public. Concentrate on your reality is the cure to the stupidity
Zionism is not Judaism. My Jewish friends (anti-Zionists) tell me that Jews are not victims. Jews are survivors and because what happened to them, they have the obligation and duty to make sure that the same thing does not happen to anyone else.
Problem is so many are duel citizens Israeli firsters even members of Canadian and UK parliament, let alone the American zionisrs lobby AIPAC being larger than the NRA, Farming lobbies, or any other for that matter . You'd think 30+ million black people in America would have more lobbying power than 2 million Jewish Americans. But that's simply not the case for any other group. The numbers speak volumes .
@@eno6712 Nailed it. Forget black people, latinos, everyone else.... lets focus on quite literally 1.5% of the population who also happen to be easily the most financially succesful group in America. We are literally creating laws to protect the most privileged group in American history, who very likely are more loyal to Israel than they are to to the U.S.
Im upset with israel and with jews (the religious ones who follow the Talmud) because the Talmud is inherently anti-Christian (see Gittin 57a) which means as a Christian the options are either to dislike judaism or to be a judeochristian which is made up BS that has only existed for 80 to 100 years but has been quite successful as a psyop on evangelicals.
He's correct about Iran being safe for Jews. Drew Binsky went there and was treated with great hospitality and it's one of the best travel experiences he's ever had. And he's Jewish and American. People are people. They're not governments and ideologies and whatnot. If you treat them with respect, they will treat you the same way.
@@basicallyno1722 There's a lot of Persian Jews who aren't comfortable living there because of the government. I agree that the average person in most places isn't hateful.
I doubt every place in Iran is safe. It's generally safe for Jews and blacks in the USA too, but there are areas in the USA you don't want to be in at night if you're a Jew or black.
@@saintvitusfan4489 zionism spawned to existence 100 years ago. essentially Europe didn't want jews, so they told them to move somewhere. they chose the middle east, problem was people were already living there. so they had to expel them or kill them. for the most part, they were peaceful before this. this action led to a vendetta, as it is NOT right to kick someone off the land they have been living in for thousands of years.,
@@peacelove3828 Zionism is Jewish nationalism which is ethno-nationalism. It's that same nonsense where Nazis call white person that aren't white nationalists self-hating white people. No, they are just normal white people and Jews that are anti-Zionists, or more often, are just not interested in Zionism are just normal Jews. It's really that simple.
@@peacelove3828 Zionism is Jewish ethno-nationalism. It's a political ideology. Being a Zionist and being a Jew are not the same thing. For example, there is nothing wrong with being White or being Turkish. But both Turkish and White ethno-nationalism (and so on and so on) lead to bad outcomes. It's that simple.
Yep. Pussycat men like Howie have no problem sacrificing everybody on their alter. They refuse to acknowledge the reality we live in. The rich look at us like cows.
Anti semitism is no longer about hatred or intolerance for Jewish people. It’s just a holy phrase to preempt criticism of Israel and the Jewish/pro Israel lobbies with unreasonable influence and control in the US and Europe.
Living in NYC, with a large Jewish population, none of my friends who actually go out and do activities feel threatened for being Jewish. Only people who stay home all day, think there are people out there who want to attack Jewish people.
Now go to israel where people only interact with other jews and are constantly being fed propoganda. It turns into a hysterical and crazy circlejerk
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Nice try. Keep justifying all the antisemitism generated by the clueless, virtue signaling 18-25 year olds. And also pls keep supporting thugs/charlatans/frauds (affiliated with a religion that TH-cam will not allow me to name) masquerading as 'victims'. The mass delusion in the far left in the West is beyond belief. Good luck! Yugoslavia is just around the corner. LOL. Thankfully, the West is a tiny % of the global population and the days where you 'dictate to the world' are long gone; many of you just don't realize it.
So do you think all of the hate crime stats are fake? And if you do, let me guess, the ones about black people committing 50% of the crime, those you don't think are fake?
Ari is right. People are easily riled up and perception/experience is a function of what we focus on. We give too much credence to our feelings and blaming others for our emotions.
What about all the Jewish protesters against genocide, are they antisemite ? I'm Jewish and Israel's actions have made me more afraid of what people's attitude towards Jews are than anything since the 1930's. There is no contest as to who the aggressors are, it started 70 years ago and the constant persecution of the Palestinians has been an embarrassment to me to say the least, more shame than embarrassment.
Don't push this "I am Jewish" with me. I don't have patience this for assorted faux Jews, far left antisemitic "Jews" and similar garbage. This is selling well only with Hamas.. I know I am Jewish: - raised by fiercely Jewish, fiercely Zionist people with tragic history. I am the second generation (father lost his family) - had two emigrations - have a masters in JEWISH history with a focus on antisemitism and know the countries were most Jewish lived very well, etc. dr anna
Sorry, for you there are 200 countries to protest. The fact that you bark at Jews only means that you're a sick antisemite whether you are a faux Jew, 1% Jew, useful Jew, etc. And yes, using Jews against their people is one of the favorite things of antisemites. When "the protestors" are financed by enemies and then used ("see they are Jews and they,... blah, blah, blah") is particularly ugly.
But you need to acknowledge WHY the Israeli government is like that. Zionism is the belief that the Jewish RACE is superior to all other RACES. So, if semites are the ones comitting genocide and spewing their supremacist ideology, why is antisemitism wrong?
@@bromeotorres6964 TH-cam is going to delete my replies. I would suggest looking into what Noam Chomsky has to say. He's one of the world's leading intellectuals, and he's Jewish.
Funny enough Howie sounds racist here. Saying to Ari - "but your face is... " implying that in bad neighborhood he might have problems because he looks Jewish. He looks Semitic just as many not Jewish people in middle east. Fun fact - almost all Palestinians are Semitic but . only about 50% of Israelis are.
I don't hate him. I like him with full awareness of the Ashkenazi history of collapsing western economies and profiting from both sides of war. Zionism is bullshit and the holocaust against the Palestinians is as bad as what is claimed to have happened to the European Ashkenazi that weren't wealthy enough to escape. None of that shit has anything to do with my opinion of a comedian who I find intelligent and hilarious.
I agree with Ari here. Turn off your tv and social media and go out and interact with people. You will see that all that noise just disappears. Be good to yourself and others. ✌
We've said that for 30 years and now we are facing the consequences of not engaging . We are looking at World War III or Civil War. All those kids you see online on are Future Leaders. People don't feel the need to hide their racism online like they do in real life and Ari is naive or part of the problem himself.
ari is only technically jewish. he doest dress, act, or practice judiuasm. he doesn't live in a jewish neighborhood. I am jewish. I am religious. I live in a jewish neighborhood. I see it all day everyday. I myself walking to synagoge have been slurred at. I see strores in my neighborhood with graffitti on jewish stores free gaza. kill jews. etc. jewish people are being randomly maced in the face and punched in the head within jewish neighborhoods. we wear hats to cover our judiasm kipa. I am sorry but listening to a dude like ari about anti semitism is like listening to a german say natzis weren't too bad
Till your getting scammed and their tunneling under your house. Also look up at the telephone poles in your city. Look for a thin wire, the jews try and trick their god by staying inside the "eruv"... wire snippers. ;)
If it bleeds it leads. If you watch the news and social media you'll think the world is comming to an end. Yet, if you look out the window nothings happening. The birds are chirping the sun is shinning. But if you look at your phone or TV it's fire a brimestone.
Howie: I dont leave the house, antisemitism is everywhere!! Ari: I've been all over the country, nothing is going on. Should we listen to the guy who doesn't go out, or travels everyday?
You don't have to believe either of them. Just read the comments on any video having to do with Israel. The idea that "nothing is happening" is absolutely ridiculous. You want to believe that because it makes you feel good to think Jews are complaining about nothing.
@@williamslater-vf5ym internet is detached from reality. If I went with what my Instagram feed showed me, then everyone is autistic, racist, and they think silica gel is great cat litter. When you leave your house, what do you experience? That's reality. Theres so many troll farms, disinformation centers, and idiots online. Close the computer, go for a walk in the park.
@@williamslater-vf5ym I kinda agree with Ari. The antisemtism is online and very bad but Jews in the western world arent rlly being attacked aside from fringe instances on the internet. People chanting for intifada is bad but they aren't acting on it
@@jake4297 They aren't acting on it because they don't want to go to prison. But they aren't being reprimanded either. If anything they're being praised and empowered. Not good.
@@kenzaifun lmaoo well I guess is if all Jews are for for genocide then I’m against them for sure no doubt about it. I’m against slavers , genocidal lunatics , rapists, murderers , war mongers etc etc . If anyone identifies with those I’m against them for sure.
@@kurolap7882 no it doesn’t hardly anybody has anything against Jews simply being Jewish that’s why they support the Jews on their side 1940 sentiment wouldn’t care if you were in their side because they’re ACTUALLY antisemitic. The people there have something against people living in land that they think is theirs and their innocent family members being killed by their government’s military you worthles liar. You’re a horribIe disgustlng person. I mean that.
@@kurolap7882 oh please…. The Arab nations don’t hate Jewish people. They hate Z!onism. There’s a difference, so it’s not quite comparable to Nazi, Germany.
I am not Muslim & I have lived in London for decades with neighbours of all different faiths & none, & from all walks of life. But when I was involved in a car accident recently, it was my Muslim neighbours checking in on me, offering me lifts to the hospital & doctor's, homecooked food, & shopping errands, etc.
This makes me think of the woman recently who had an addiction to cheese. She was spending hundreds a dollars a week on cheese and she went to rehab for it. She blamed it on all the stress that she perceived was being aimed at her for being a jew in her well off Manhatten neighborhood. And this started a few years ago (years before october 7th!). Victomhood is a powerful drug. Its HIGHLY addictive. Does anti semitism exist? Yes. Is it as much of a problem as people think it is. No. The most wild thing about it all is that White Nationalists Proud Boys are on the same side as the Z On Sts in this particular chapter of the culture wars. How much of a problem can antisemitism really be right now if the pro isreal anti free speechers are teaming up with the nazis?
That's something the mainstream news cites don't want to ever adress or report on. Many young jewish people are growing increasingly hostile to both Israel and the Zionist ideology. It's an inconvenient truth that the AnTi SeMiTiSm merchants don't want to accept!!
This is why Ari is a comedian and Howie isnt "Im going to make light out of it" "Youre going to make light out of it??????" I love Ari's philosophy, and someone who doesnt understand how ridiculous the world is cant possible comprehend
As a Palestinian I still like you Ari and Howie and would not want to see harm to them. I think many Jews are taught at a young age and drilled into their head that everyone hates them and wants to harm them. Yet in reality I do not know any Palestinians who think like this. It is sad what Jewish parents have done to their children.
Yes, a U.S.-born Palestinian named Hamzah Saadah has an enlightening TH-cam channel on which he debates with Jewish citizens of Israel. Please be warned, as far too many racist citizens of Israel are frequently extremely offensive.
Ari is one of the greatest people I've ever followed and he has never taken an 'L' since I discovered him ten years ago. I'm gonna write his name down on the voting ballot this year.
@@ColmPadraig I don't know man, its simply too close to Nazis and fascism for my tastes, but also would say the same about anything involving communism. These are failed systems and we need to get as far away from both ideas as possible.
@@ColmPadraig I would also admit, and looking at your name you may find this of interest, in the book Postnationalist Ireland by Richard Kearney he gives a lot of food for thoughts on nationalism. I still don't like the term though, and it is often irrelevant to larger truths or ignores history. Look at Germany my friend, the North DESPISED the barbaric Bavarians and Swabian people, these are my people on my mothers side so I can safely say this and theirs even stories by the Grimm brothers that reflect these stereotypes and animosity between the two, so in today's world we suddenly are suppose to be a "nation" when we were once the countries "rednecks" even in my grandfathers time. So no, the idea of a nation really does seem invalid in most cases, as in the sense of something to identify yourself as above all else. It should be based on culture and local areas, nothing more, because that is your family and people where you have grown.
Is being against the actions of the Israeli government the same thing as being against Jewish people? Is being against your own government's actions in a given conflict and protesting that being against yourself and everyone else in your entire culture, religion or race? No, it isn't.
No I love Jews also Arabs from the Levant are Semitic I am semitic Syrian 100% Arab and Muslim and love Jews I am Anti Zionist Anti Apartheid Anti Occupation Anti Israhell
It’s honestly nice to hear Ari’s actual perspective all I know of him is comedic shit which is fine but it’s cool to see. It’s not antisemitism to tell Israel not to do a genocide. Don’t let these wannabe victims gaslight you.
YES, our problem is with Zionism, not Jews. I am a Muslim Arab with Palestinian origins and I actually love Jews and respect their religion so much because it's closer to Islam than modern Christianity (worshiping one God). I would eat any food without hesitation once I learn that it's kosher.
Recently moved to a part of NE Philadelphia that is literally half Ulranians, Russian, Arab Muslims and Jews . . . These people go to war in their own countries but here in America decide to live in the same neighborhoods 😭
@@Ahgmimi Ukraine is for America the same thing as Israel: both are tools to control and have influence (basically imperialism) in these areas, Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Putin didn’t attack without any warning; he warned America multiple times about their expansion to the East. Ukraine becoming part of NATO would mean for Russia having their enemies right next to them. So saying “the USA didn’t stir up anything” is the understatement of the year. And I love how you didn’t get into the Middle East because you know there’s no denial in it. I mean, even Trump himself said they destroyed the Middle East. But to be fair, both Russia and the USA are still using the Middle East as their war ground, and have been for decades…
It’s crazy to see Ari speak about being out and his experiences. And Howie discrediting real life experiences, saying that he never goes out, and saying that his made up thoughts are more real than reality
My buddy is exactly the same as howie. he is constantly acting like the sky is falling, yet he lives in one of the top 10 safest cities in the US, living comfortably w/ his family & more privilege than anyone I know. Also, notice howie's counter-argument: Ari: "Those students are just dumb." howie: "you're wrong"
I definitely have (many years ago, mind you) but no more or less than any other thing like that, definitely not the norm. Expecting no 1 individual among millions to have an ignorant opinion is unreasonable anyway imo, people just have dumb opinions sometimes, it's not the end of the world.
I live in Chicago where the Citizen app is super popular. I swear to god at least 5 times a week I’ll get some crazy notification for a shooting or something and walk to the place it supposedly happened, and nothing will be there. The app just algorithmically feeds people fear to keep them subscribing.
Bad things do happen but you might not see it actually since the world is so big and that citizen app is focusing on just the bad part. You just end up watching that 1% of the bad events all the time.
ya ia am sure you care about Gaza or know even what is going on. Do you have a problem also with Hamas using people as shields, or building their center in a hospital, or hamas killing their own people, why dont you talk about that.
@@gsp3428 I've seen countless videos of that conflict...Not once I've seen Hamas attack in a populated area..I have seen IDF use human shields put kids on jeeps hood and walking behind them or sending to see if there is booby traps.
Ari is 1000% on point. Also, I love how he says what he says and Howie is immediacy like "nope." Like ok Howie, settle down. You asked the question but the second it wasn't what he wanted said he just said "Nope. Wrong." The left is REALLY open to hearing other's experiences.
One guy goes out and tours the country Another says I never go out Then argues And if these guys think California resembles the country It’s not Howie had zero argument
I love Ari and I like Howie but I don’t support Israel keeping Palestinians from having any statehood. Does that make me antisemitic? Or critical of a government?
Yes because they demand you recognize Israel as the only Jewish State. Then they turn around and say Israel can’t represent Jews as a people. I say it represents them perfectly.
You know what's statistically irrelevant? Ari's opinion. Bro is simply masquerading as an "asajew"... He's like the 3% fringe. Sometimes I wonder what stuff he smokes that is potent enough to transport him into that La-La-Land he seems to be in most of the time, I want some too.
Wow. my new favorite tiny hat. He must be the only one on the planet that has divorced himself from ridiculous victimhood and embraced reality. Kudos. Can't wait to see the backlash
Watch full episode here: th-cam.com/video/chayd0bXiIs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0k_rpFcllCK3sRn9
Opposing Likud/Revisionism isn't antisemitic, unless you consider Einstein antisemitic. Likud's bloody 100 year history ...
In 1923, 100 years ago, Ze'ev Jabotinsky wrote, The Iron Wall, and a follow up, The Ethics of The Iron Wall (sooo racist towards Africans), in which he fully acknowledged that post Balfour Zionsim was colonialism, and that, based on the entirety of history, the native Palestinian population would resist being colonized until the bitter end. He directly compared it to the colonization of North America. He promoted doing it anyway, claiming Zionist colonialism was a "just" colonialism (he also thought North American colonialists were good guys, so not a great judge of morality), not caring what that meant for the native population.
Ze'ev is important, because his Betar militant youth group helped found the Irgun terrorist group, along with other supporters of his, and the splinter Lehi terrorist group. The Irgun bombed numerous Palestinian markets and other public places, murdering many Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who didn't support colonialist Zionsim).
The Irgun are important, because they ended up being led by future Likud PM, Menachem Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel. The King David Hotel was bombed because the British had raided the Jewish Agency and seized numerous documents that may have shown that the terrorists were working with the JA and Haganah (JA liked to pretend that they didn't support the terrorism). The British then stored those documents at their base, in the hotel. That the Irgun terrorists responded to a JA raid, itself seems to prove the connection. That the thousands of Irgun (and Lehi) terrorists were also quickly merged into the new nation's military (IDF) and intelligence (Mossad) agencies, and are still celebrated as "heroes" by Israelis, to this day, also seems to support total collaboration between the groups.
That other terrorist group mentioned, Lehi (also known as the Stern Gang), was considered even more extreme. They even tried to ally with the Nazis, against the British. Lehi ended up being led by Yitzhak Shamir, future Mossad agent, and another future Likud PM. They assassinated Lord Moyne, and others.
The two terrorist groups also operated outside of Palestine. The Irgun bombed the British Embassy at Porta Pia, in Rome. The Lehi bombed the British Colonial Club, in London. A timer failed in another bombing attempt, at the Colonial Office, in Whitehall. Two female Lehi operatives were arrested crossing from Belgium to France, with the ingredients for letter bombs. 21 letter bombs were found to be have sent, and were intercepted. They mined the Cairo-Haifa train, in Egypt, twice, killing dozens of civilians, as well as British soldiers.
In 1945, there was a major land and peoples survey done in Palestine. It showed that the Zionists only owned about 5% of the total land, 20% of the arable land, and owned a majority in zero districts. The partition was not only going to be forced on the native Palestinian majority, but Jews were still going to be a minority, in the part allocated to them. The only possible way to even become a "Jewish state" was going to require getting rid of the actual majority (at least enough so that there'd be a solid Jewish majority, so they could fake being democratic).
This is also shown by the 1948, post Nakba, population of Israel. If there was 716,700 Jews, 156,000+ non-Jews, and approximately 700k non-Jews ethnically cleansed, that means the Jewish population, in the Zionist portion of partition, was originally over 100,000 less than the non-Jewish population. To believe that there was never any intent, by Zionists, to ethnically cleanse away the Palestinian majority would require believing that they never intended to create a "Jewish state". It's a nonsensical notion.
Begin, and those terrorist groups, also opposed partition, but for the opposite reason Palestinians did. Palestinians didn't want to be colonized, at all. The terrorists wanted to colonize it all. "Moderate" Zionists were okay with colonizing half ... for now (what would happen in the future, after partition, was up to them, said Ben-Gurion). The Zionist terrorists were also involved in massacres, and assassinations, during the partition violence (colonialist war against the natives).
Another notable future Likud PM, also started in the military, during the partition fighting. That was Ariel Sharon, war criminal, "Butcher of Beirut".
Menachem Begin, and these other Zionist terrorists, are important because they became involved in Israeli politics, first forming Herut. That was the party that Albert Einstein, and other prominent American Jews, opposed, having a letter printed in the NYT, in December of 1948, when Begin came to visit the US. The letter opened ...
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."
Herut merged with other extremist parties, over the years, and eventually became Likud, in the 70s. Now, people get upset over the slogan "From the river to the sea!", but it's the second part that's most important, "Palestine will be free!". Because "Palestine" isn't defined as an ethno-state, a free Palestine can be a single state, free for all to live in, and return to, free of continuing colonization, free of occupation, free of oppression, etc. Just like a Germany free of Nazism, an Italy free of fascism, a South Africa free of apartheid, or an America free of slavery from sea to shiny sea. It doesn't necessitate purging all the Jews. It just necessitates them giving up on the idea of an ethno-state.
On the other hand, because "Israel" has been defined as an ethno-state, Likud's, "between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", has no possible good interpretation. It is a declaration of intent to completely colonize, and ethnically cleanse, all Palestine territories. Not only that, but it also claims that they have a "right" to all of the "Land of Israel" (biblical borders that don't mesh with archaeological reality), which is an open declaration of future wars, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly even Iraq.
Likud platform ...
1977: "The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.
b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace."
1999: "The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs."
"The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting."
All Palestine territories are officially considered occupied, by the International Court of Justice, the UN GA, the UN SC, and even in official documents of Israel's own allies. Likud is still using the blueprint for colonizing North America, in the West Bank. Move settlements out into native territory, piss off the natives, the natives retaliate, cry about poor "innocent" colonizing settlers being the "victims" of violent "Savages!", call in the cavalry to put down the native uprising, and eventually expand the borders to include those settlements. Rinse and repeat. In Gaza, Israel is operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto. Them claiming a "right to defend themselves" would be like the Nazis claiming a "right to defend themselves " from the Warsaw ghetto uprising. There's no "war". That they're the occupiers means the "war" part is long over. Those people are actually supposed to be under the occupier's protection.
That partition was forced upon the Palestinian majority, against their will ... that the Zionist portion still had to be forcefully ethnically cleansed of its non-Jewish majority, against their will ... that the millions of occupied Palestinians don't have a say in the government that truly rules over them, Israel's ... means Israel is about as democratic as Nazi Germany after Hitler purged his political opponents and then held elections.
Intelligent people aren't into Howie or his clouded view of the world. Ari's more intelligent
I agree with ari BUT saying it's safe in Iran is pretty wild.
Pathetic
@@highdesertbiker ari shaffir does not have a single fan anywhere on earth with an IQ over fucking 80, you absolute inbred vermin. soon you will have no place to hide. cope harder moshe... shalom ;)
Bro literally admitted to not going out yet thinks the world is on fire
Howie is kind of a retard. Even his daughter sees through it a bit since she's trying to make quips with ari
He sees the world through an lcd window, that should explain it
@@yobench , just another arrogant neurotic elitist jew.
Yes, SO blinkered.
Why is howie mandell even relevant in 2024. He was funny for 15 minutes in 1983.
Howie: "I don't go out"
Also Howie: "It's a real problem out there"
What a square lol.
L😂L
“If we take care of our mental health like our dental health; we’ll be ok.”
- Howie Mandel
Howie is such a clueless moron. Dana White walked off of this podcast and with good reason.
@@Autistic_Internet_Slap_Fights Floss your brain nightly.
1:44 "Bro if you shut the laptop you'll never see it" That was spot on.
So if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist? Let’s end all wars by just ignoring them. Genius.
@@Pablo_Dee that’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying it’s all online, whereas wars are fought in person
@@Pablo_DeeHow does someone being (or not being) publicly harassed validate the existence of a war
@@Pablo_Deehe's saying it's irrational for the ordinary person to involve themselves or get emotionally invested in matters that don't affect them.
He's also saying the media tends to hyperfocus on certain matters which blows them out of proportion. I disagree with his perspective, but I can understand why he chooses to live like that.
@@Pablo_Deeif you never see a problem or experience it in any way, then correct. For you, it doesn't exist. It is not a problem for you.
Criticizing Saudi Arabia is not islamaphobic. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic.
IT becomes anti Semitic, if you're constantly critiquing things that you would not only not criticize, but actively support, had another other country conducted itself in the same manner.
Is the war justified? Yes.
Is the combatant to civilian death particularly bad? not even close - its actually REALLY impressive for a war taking place entirely in urban environments.
@@kurolap7882 So you think people opposing Israel genocide of children and women anti-semitic? Well the word have lost its meaning. You guys call people who are anti-genocide anti-semitic. Good luck with that.
The word antisemitism and what it means don’t have any substance to a western historically christian person. Someone making a label that is meant to creative a pejorative out of criticizing them is self serving and appeals to no ethical common ground. If a guy named Jeff said “criticizing me is anti-jeffism guys and that’s not right” you would laugh in his face.
@@kurolap7882 You aren't very good with understanding warfare.
Just like how criticizing your loved ones doesn't mean you hate them. We live in a world where you can't cast judgement or tell people what you really think of them without them turning on you.
Howie Mandel so desperately wants to be a victim. Ari wouldn't let him. Love Ari.
Howie is bitch stop deleting my post
Howie NEVER goes out and sees the world and is convinced there is some massive problem
@@highdesertbiker i feel sad to see him convinced by the bad side, the dark side. I hope he changes his opignion and stay logical and honest.
@@Zen-hk9ui Ya he seems like he's a bit brainwashed and egotistical about an issue he clearly knows very little about
I feel that those ear pods 😂 sponsors if you know what i'm talking about are on to someting to make howie say such thing.
I see that he was really nervous when he was talking to ari.
Here is a microcosm of the media right now:
Ari: "I'm not seeing this antisemitism"
Howie: "So are you a holocaust denier?"
See how he couldn't even help himself that switch turned on his mind and he said as if joking but he arrived there despite himself
Howie is a typical hollywood jew.
He clearly made a joke there
Watching Howie Mandel get heartbroken because Ari, a fellow Jew won’t allow himself to play a victim like he does was phenomenal. Ari based af!
you people are the first ones to call a black man an uncle tom for doing the same thing tho.
@@mcbltgaming3694 who is talking about black men??? The fact is that Mandel was expecting Ari to join him in his victim mentality narrative, and Ari was not having it. Nice try at trying to deflect and play the race card tho.
@@Frank2489 you obviously have no idea what playing the race card means
@@mcbltgaming3694 at this point you are just white noise dude.
@@Frank2489 white noise? ARe yOu pLayInG tHe rAcE cARd
Howie: I don't go out
Also Howie: closing your laptop is hiding from the problem.
Under-rated comment.
Indeed. A lot of people now have been drummed up and conditioned into an obsession of thinking that experiencing the world through the incredibly distorted lens of internet media is somehow more real than experiencing actual reality - real people and day-to-day life. It's also important to note actually that when we get absorbed into social media and online media and forums etc etc, we are also not even experiencing ourselves realistically...who else notices this? The mind gets enormously distorted when hooked so much into the fake reality of the internet.
Yes, the internet can be used as a great tool for learning and finding some entertainment, but we massively overuse it and get absorbed into strange propagandized and twisted false realities when we do so. Governments and big businesses know this too, to varying degrees. Even if it's something as seemingly innocent as just companies advertising things, it's relentless here. It used to be we'd occasionally see some billboards and ads on tv, but we'd spend most of our time in the real world and talking to real people and trying to solve real problems.
The internet has become the most hyper-intense and endlessly saturated commercial machine, news media (no, not just mainstream either...), opinioneering and downright propaganda tool the world has ever known. Everyone is trying to distort your thinking to get you to follow a certain cause or sell you something, make you vote for someone or even just to plain old get you to click their links. Businesses make billions of dollars now just by doing and saying anything they can to make you click links. Just think how different that entire business model is from anything that's come before it and how dangerous it is for people's minds and outlooks.
@@DM-kv9kjThank you for that. It felt like a wake up call I needed because somewhere along the way I fell back asleep and needed to hear this sort of thing again. I hope I can take the gist of your comment with me. Cheers
lol
😂😂
"I go all over the country and I don't see it" vs "I don't go out but I think its real and its serious" how is this even a debate?
Holy fuck. Respect to Ari for saying how he feels instead of being a yes-men.
He could’ve easily go along but actually stated how he not only feels but has experienced the actual world.
That’s definitely ari
That's why we love him
Yea…. That’s not Ari.
I mean, this is Ari Shaffir we're talking about. He could think anti-semitism is the greatest threat in the world, but as soon as someone says as much, he'll do a complete 180. Ari is one of my favorite comedians, but at his core, he's a no-man, which is every bit as stupid and silly as a yes-man.
'I don't go out' vs the person who has gone out. Howie has been brainwashed. Ari is bang on.
No, Howie has been TRAINED!
@@kidwave1 By whom?
@@estebancomuletby the zionists, the silly 'birthrite' trips to the motherland, all all the crying joooos around him poking people in the eye and then claiming victimhood. If people like Howie weren't the perpetual victim, they wouldn't know who they were.
@@estebancomuletOur elitist masters 😉👌
Ari who has openly worn his Jewwyness on his chest for 20 years (and is serenaded with “JewJewjajew” whenever he walks into a podcast) versus Howie who many of us didn’t even know was jewish
When you call everyone an antisemite for criticizing Israel, the word starts to lose meaning.
Here's how it works. I don't like spinach. So I've renamed spinach "hamburger". Now I love spinach.
In my experience, if you get an anti-Zionist talking long enough to exhaust their anti-Zionist points, they will eventually espouse genuine anti-semitism. Not always, but usually.
You are when you're spreading lies about them.
Israel is losing the PR war. That’s why Mandel is so upset
Exactly - but it's not a war.. it's a genocide. Jews are just as racists.
I can only imagine how much mossad is freaking out about them completely losing the social media battle. Only jews and old people are strong, vocal zionists now.
Because everyone sees their true intention is to total push the Palestinians out of Israel. Go back and look at the map from when they first arrived in Israel after the UN brought them back.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that has blood on its hands. For silly, clueless people in the West, it is a 'PR war'. While Israel (and UAE/Saudi and other neighbors) want Hamas/the Iranian theocracy gone for good. The latter will happen sooner or later, regardless of all the social media noise and virtual signaling generated, primarily, by the West.
Killing children by the thousands does tend to have that effect
Bro wasn't ready for this reality check...
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If policies of Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Dehumanization,Pogroms,Mass Graves,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated
▪︎Doesn't amount to Holocaust?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings im crying lmao
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Dehumanizing a group of people Rats - Fascist
▪︎Dehumanizing a group of people Human Animals - Not Fascist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings is english your 5th language?
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If those once Ethnic Cleansed
▪︎Ethnic Cleanse others
▪︎Following footsteps of their Oppressors,no?
As someone who has been to pro-Palestinian rallies I can definitely say it's safe for Jews to walk by because many Jews attend, speak, and even HOST these rallies.
Yup!!
Ari has a new superpower seeing through human lies and bullshit.
Psychedelics will do that to ya 👍
Once his break up happened aka the “Natasha leggero incident”
Ari the only person telling the truth
This is the truth about most things. If you're talking about statistical relevance, almost nothing we argue about or worry about fits that criteria.
@@Fantasyremix you are correct. We live in a culture of distraction. And people like Howie are the leaders.
He's not telling the whole truth, he admitted to as much in not going to college campuses. Which means he's basically ignorant about something everyone else sees with their own eyes. He is downplaying hysteria where it's needed as well.
Howie's overplay and Ari's underplay mean they both need each other's perspectives. That's America in a nutshell.
@@machtnichtsseimann it's not underplaying to acknowledge that certain places have nothing to do with your life. 99% of the population does not regularly visit a college campus so to pretend that what is happening at one dictates the events of your life is asinine. Real people don't hate Jewish people real people don't hate black people real people aren't looking to argue or fight in public. Concentrate on your reality is the cure to the stupidity
@@machtnichtsseimann you've never experienced violence of any kind due to your race nor have u ever witnessed it outside of what u saw on MSNBC.
Most privileged people on earth want to be victim so bad.
Look at who are the top 1% of the 1% and they're still .02 of the population.
Which is where MAGA is. So anxious to be victims.
People are upset with Israel not Jews
Zionism is not Judaism. My Jewish friends (anti-Zionists) tell me that Jews are not victims. Jews are survivors and because what happened to them, they have the obligation and duty to make sure that the same thing does not happen to anyone else.
Problem is so many are duel citizens Israeli firsters even members of Canadian and UK parliament, let alone the American zionisrs lobby AIPAC being larger than the NRA, Farming lobbies, or any other for that matter .
You'd think 30+ million black people in America would have more lobbying power than 2 million Jewish Americans.
But that's simply not the case for any other group.
The numbers speak volumes .
No, we are upset with jews.
@@eno6712 Nailed it. Forget black people, latinos, everyone else.... lets focus on quite literally 1.5% of the population who also happen to be easily the most financially succesful group in America. We are literally creating laws to protect the most privileged group in American history, who very likely are more loyal to Israel than they are to to the U.S.
Im upset with israel and with jews (the religious ones who follow the Talmud) because the Talmud is inherently anti-Christian (see Gittin 57a) which means as a Christian the options are either to dislike judaism or to be a judeochristian which is made up BS that has only existed for 80 to 100 years but has been quite successful as a psyop on evangelicals.
Howie Madel always has terribly uninformed and out of touch takes on life
Ari shattered that man's entire false media reality
He's correct about Iran being safe for Jews. Drew Binsky went there and was treated with great hospitality and it's one of the best travel experiences he's ever had. And he's Jewish and American. People are people. They're not governments and ideologies and whatnot. If you treat them with respect, they will treat you the same way.
There are a LOT of Persian Jews still traveling to and fro Iran
@@basicallyno1722 There's a lot of Persian Jews who aren't comfortable living there because of the government. I agree that the average person in most places isn't hateful.
I doubt every place in Iran is safe. It's generally safe for Jews and blacks in the USA too, but there are areas in the USA you don't want to be in at night if you're a Jew or black.
I am not Muslim, but my older sister has been married to a lovely Iranian man for over the last 3 decades,
his wider family is also lovely.
You are so full of shit, ask Arvin Nathaniel Ghahremani if he doesn't get executed for defending himself.
"I literally don't go outside and you're wrong" lmaooo
Quote of the vid: " They don't hate Jews, just zionism".
1000's of Jews travel to Iran annually, it's never a problem.
whats the difference between zionism and jewish?
@@peacelove3828 Zionism is the idea to create a Jewish state in the Middle East, Judeism is the Jewish Religion by itself.
@@saintvitusfan4489 zionism spawned to existence 100 years ago.
essentially Europe didn't want jews, so they told them to move somewhere. they chose the middle east, problem was people were already living there. so they had to expel them or kill them. for the most part, they were peaceful before this. this action led to a vendetta, as it is NOT right to kick someone off the land they have been living in for thousands of years.,
@@peacelove3828 Zionism is Jewish nationalism which is ethno-nationalism.
It's that same nonsense where Nazis call white person that aren't white nationalists self-hating white people. No, they are just normal white people and Jews that are anti-Zionists, or more often, are just not interested in Zionism are just normal Jews.
It's really that simple.
@@peacelove3828 Zionism is Jewish ethno-nationalism. It's a political ideology. Being a Zionist and being a Jew are not the same thing.
For example, there is nothing wrong with being White or being Turkish. But both Turkish and White ethno-nationalism (and so on and so on) lead to bad outcomes.
It's that simple.
Ari is right, Howie.
In times of madness, Ari seems to become the voice of reason. In times of reason, he's the voice of madness. What a chaos wizard.
my skank pres
Sometimes it is best to listen to the jester instead of the mad king
Love Ari to death, but he just likes to go against the grain. He's a no-man, which is simply the inversion of a yes-man.
credit to howie and his team for clipping this despite him not looking great in the argument
He thinks he looks great in it, he thinks ari is insane to “deni” antisemitism
Howie is insufferable
Yep. Pussycat men like Howie have no problem sacrificing everybody on their alter. They refuse to acknowledge the reality we live in. The rich look at us like cows.
Such a zionist jew, who knew?
and yet he's the one posting this video haha ! Seems like he's okay showing people he can be wrong
@@Zsilu3 Depends what kind of reaction he was expecting.
@@Zsilu3he doesn't think he's wrong THATS WHY he posted it
Anti semitism is no longer about hatred or intolerance for Jewish people. It’s just a holy phrase to preempt criticism of Israel and the Jewish/pro Israel lobbies with unreasonable influence and control in the US and Europe.
Crazy how simply being against genocide could get you labeled as an anti-semite.
we're at a day where our Freedom of speech tested every day
When jews are murdering, it is illegal to be against murder.
Living in NYC, with a large Jewish population, none of my friends who actually go out and do activities feel threatened for being Jewish. Only people who stay home all day, think there are people out there who want to attack Jewish people.
Howie sits on twitter all day listening to Ben Shapiro and thinking everybody is against jews
lol so true. I forgot I was immigrant till anti trumpers told me to “look out” lmao.
Now go to israel where people only interact with other jews and are constantly being fed propoganda. It turns into a hysterical and crazy circlejerk
Nice try. Keep justifying all the antisemitism generated by the clueless, virtue signaling 18-25 year olds. And also pls keep supporting thugs/charlatans/frauds (affiliated with a religion that TH-cam will not allow me to name) masquerading as 'victims'. The mass delusion in the far left in the West is beyond belief. Good luck! Yugoslavia is just around the corner. LOL. Thankfully, the West is a tiny % of the global population and the days where you 'dictate to the world' are long gone; many of you just don't realize it.
So do you think all of the hate crime stats are fake? And if you do, let me guess, the ones about black people committing 50% of the crime, those you don't think are fake?
howie: the sky is falling.
ari: only in your mind.
I don’t typically like Ari but this is the most logical argument you can hear today
Ari is right. People are easily riled up and perception/experience is a function of what we focus on. We give too much credence to our feelings and blaming others for our emotions.
Ari is 100% right..... its propaganda for war!!!!!!
What about all the Jewish protesters against genocide, are they antisemite ? I'm Jewish and Israel's actions have made me more afraid of what people's attitude towards Jews are than anything since the 1930's. There is no contest as to who the aggressors are, it started 70 years ago and the constant persecution of the Palestinians has been an embarrassment to me to say the least, more shame than embarrassment.
Much love brother
Don't push this "I am Jewish" with me. I don't have patience this for assorted faux Jews, far left antisemitic "Jews" and similar garbage. This is selling well only with Hamas..
I know I am Jewish:
- raised by fiercely Jewish, fiercely Zionist people with tragic history. I am the second generation (father lost his family)
- had two emigrations
- have a masters in JEWISH history with a focus on antisemitism and know the countries were most Jewish lived very well, etc.
dr anna
douchhhhheeeeeeee
stop being such a jew
Sorry, for you there are 200 countries to protest. The fact that you bark at Jews only means that you're a sick antisemite whether you are a faux Jew, 1% Jew, useful Jew, etc.
And yes, using Jews against their people is one of the favorite things of antisemites. When "the protestors" are financed by enemies and then used ("see they are Jews and they,... blah, blah, blah") is particularly ugly.
imagine being embarrassed on your own show lmfao
Being anti-Israeli government isn't antisemitic. That like saying it's racist to not like the US government.
Bingo.
Israeli government is jewish
But you need to acknowledge WHY the Israeli government is like that. Zionism is the belief that the Jewish RACE is superior to all other RACES. So, if semites are the ones comitting genocide and spewing their supremacist ideology, why is antisemitism wrong?
Anything in particular you find wrong with the Israeli government that isn't antisemitic?
@@bromeotorres6964 TH-cam is going to delete my replies. I would suggest looking into what Noam Chomsky has to say. He's one of the world's leading intellectuals, and he's Jewish.
Bravo Ari. Stop clutching the pearls Howie.
Funny enough Howie sounds racist here. Saying to Ari - "but your face is... " implying that in bad neighborhood he might have problems because he looks Jewish. He looks Semitic just as many not Jewish people in middle east. Fun fact - almost all Palestinians are Semitic but . only about 50% of Israelis are.
Ari spitting logic, Howie non sequiturs.
People hate Ari, but he generally has good takes on divisive topics.
yeah people hate him for being jewy.... untill they find a topic where his jewiness doesnt shine through...
oi vei
I don't hate him. I like him with full awareness of the Ashkenazi history of collapsing western economies and profiting from both sides of war. Zionism is bullshit and the holocaust against the Palestinians is as bad as what is claimed to have happened to the European Ashkenazi that weren't wealthy enough to escape. None of that shit has anything to do with my opinion of a comedian who I find intelligent and hilarious.
actually you are 100% on that, I usually dont like the the man but he kept it 100 here
only people that hate ari are sports fans of lakers and Kobe and jews who need to sell fear and zionism
Howie was never really funny. I didn't know he was jewish. That explains his success as a comedian who isn't funny.
Did not expect to be agreeing with Ari today but he is spot on.
Howies argument is null and void the second he says he doesn't go out.
0:48 "I did, I yelled jew at him this morning" should have gotten a bigger laugh or least acknowledged😂
It was a shitty comment…Which is why it was ignored
Ari: I walked around the block its sunny with no clouds. I got a little wet from a sprinkler.
Howie: I never go outside and its rainign cats and dogs.
LOL
Our entire culture is philo-Semitic. Every politician goes apoplectic anytime anyone hurts a Jewish person’s feelings.
Exactly and now they wanna complain about the groups they normally supported
Yup.
I’m a Muslim and have zero hate for Jews. So much of the modern world was the result of Jewish innovations. That being said, I support Palestine.
You should have hate for them. They are demons. I don’t trust anyone that promotes Judaism in Islamic spaces.
Really?
@@forex_shark6042 you must be pro-baby killing
I agree with Ari here. Turn off your tv and social media and go out and interact with people. You will see that all that noise just disappears. Be good to yourself and others. ✌
We've said that for 30 years and now we are facing the consequences of not engaging . We are looking at World War III or Civil War. All those kids you see online on are Future Leaders. People don't feel the need to hide their racism online like they do in real life and Ari is naive or part of the problem himself.
ari is only technically jewish. he doest dress, act, or practice judiuasm. he doesn't live in a jewish neighborhood. I am jewish. I am religious. I live in a jewish neighborhood. I see it all day everyday. I myself walking to synagoge have been slurred at. I see strores in my neighborhood with graffitti on jewish stores free gaza. kill jews. etc. jewish people are being randomly maced in the face and punched in the head within jewish neighborhoods. we wear hats to cover our judiasm kipa. I am sorry but listening to a dude like ari about anti semitism is like listening to a german say natzis weren't too bad
Till your getting scammed and their tunneling under your house. Also look up at the telephone poles in your city. Look for a thin wire, the jews try and trick their god by staying inside the "eruv"... wire snippers. ;)
If it bleeds it leads. If you watch the news and social media you'll think the world is comming to an end. Yet, if you look out the window nothings happening. The birds are chirping the sun is shinning. But if you look at your phone or TV it's fire a brimestone.
The most based take by Ari and Howie couldn’t handle it lol
DUDE. Thank you Ari!!! criticism of israel is NOT criticism of jews.
Howie: I dont leave the house, antisemitism is everywhere!!
Ari: I've been all over the country, nothing is going on.
Should we listen to the guy who doesn't go out, or travels everyday?
You don't have to believe either of them. Just read the comments on any video having to do with Israel. The idea that "nothing is happening" is absolutely ridiculous. You want to believe that because it makes you feel good to think Jews are complaining about nothing.
@@williamslater-vf5ym
internet is detached from reality. If I went with what my Instagram feed showed me, then everyone is autistic, racist, and they think silica gel is great cat litter. When you leave your house, what do you experience? That's reality. Theres so many troll farms, disinformation centers, and idiots online. Close the computer, go for a walk in the park.
@@williamslater-vf5ym I kinda agree with Ari. The antisemtism is online and very bad but Jews in the western world arent rlly being attacked aside from fringe instances on the internet. People chanting for intifada is bad but they aren't acting on it
@@jake4297 They aren't acting on it because they don't want to go to prison. But they aren't being reprimanded either. If anything they're being praised and empowered. Not good.
@@williamslater-vf5ym ya but they arent acting on it specifically because the government is on our side different from in Nazi germany
To defend Gaza, to defend Palestine, to defend peace is NOT anti-semetic, it's anti war!
Well Hamas started the war fucken idiot
Nah it's definitely anti-semitic. You know it.
@@kenzaifun but like umm wait umm bro...like um the palestinians are semites too tho...like bro
@@icecoldyellowredbull you know what i mean. you are anti-jewish. if you want to be really precise. aight ?
@@kenzaifun lmaoo well I guess is if all Jews are for for genocide then I’m against them for sure no doubt about it. I’m against slavers , genocidal lunatics , rapists, murderers , war mongers etc etc . If anyone identifies with those I’m against them for sure.
Ari’s reminding us that the world is filled with people who just wanna heat up their tv dinners after work and watch some tv reruns. Shut the laptop.
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Howie turn it down man, it's not 1940s Germany 😂😂😂
.... depends where you are.
Israel happens to exist in a geographical region where the sentiment remains the same.
@kurolap7882 BullSĥìt man your just like Howie. Play the victim card all day everyday.
@@kurolap7882 no it doesn’t hardly anybody has anything against Jews simply being Jewish that’s why they support the Jews on their side 1940 sentiment wouldn’t care if you were in their side because they’re ACTUALLY antisemitic. The people there have something against people living in land that they think is theirs and their innocent family members being killed by their government’s military you worthles liar. You’re a horribIe disgustlng person. I mean that.
Lol
@@kurolap7882 oh please…. The Arab nations don’t hate Jewish people. They hate Z!onism. There’s a difference, so it’s not quite comparable to Nazi, Germany.
I am not Muslim & I have lived in London for decades with neighbours of all different faiths & none, & from all walks of life.
But when I was involved in a car accident recently, it was my Muslim neighbours checking in on me, offering me lifts to the hospital & doctor's, homecooked food, & shopping errands, etc.
Thats wonderful. There are 2b muslims, and 9m jews. The chances you know a jew is rare.
"Speaking of culture... I don't leave the house" -Howie
Mandel's punchlines are only ever accidental.
This makes me think of the woman recently who had an addiction to cheese. She was spending hundreds a dollars a week on cheese and she went to rehab for it. She blamed it on all the stress that she perceived was being aimed at her for being a jew in her well off Manhatten neighborhood.
And this started a few years ago (years before october 7th!). Victomhood is a powerful drug. Its HIGHLY addictive.
Does anti semitism exist? Yes. Is it as much of a problem as people think it is. No. The most wild thing about it all is that White Nationalists Proud Boys are on the same side as the Z On Sts in this particular chapter of the culture wars. How much of a problem can antisemitism really be right now if the pro isreal anti free speechers are teaming up with the nazis?
Mandel talking about antisemitism on college campuses even though most of these Palestine protests have explicitly Jewish activists
That's something the mainstream news cites don't want to ever adress or report on.
Many young jewish people are growing increasingly hostile to both Israel and the Zionist ideology. It's an inconvenient truth that the AnTi SeMiTiSm merchants don't want to accept!!
This is why Ari is a comedian and Howie isnt
"Im going to make light out of it"
"Youre going to make light out of it??????"
I love Ari's philosophy, and someone who doesnt understand how ridiculous the world is cant possible comprehend
He doesn’t go outside but also thinks it’s real
“There’s war everywhere, how are we gonna choose which ones to fucking feel” exactly
I agree with Ari.
An overwhelming majority of people in the real world are actually super nice. If you don't go out you'll never know
Ari is right
As a Palestinian I still like you Ari and Howie and would not want to see harm to them. I think many Jews are taught at a young age and drilled into their head that everyone hates them and wants to harm them. Yet in reality I do not know any Palestinians who think like this. It is sad what Jewish parents have done to their children.
Yes, a U.S.-born Palestinian named Hamzah Saadah has an enlightening TH-cam channel on which he debates with Jewish citizens of Israel.
Please be warned, as far too many racist citizens of Israel are frequently extremely offensive.
You don't know a single Palestinian who hates Jews?
that's funny. the Palestinians I have met say from the river the sea
@@Montague-uh6eq The war criminal Netanyahu does though.
@michellenorris8471 yeah. good luck with that. well thought out and one sided
Iran has synagogues and over 100,000 jews
Ari accidentally grabbed the bottle he pissed in
Actually drinking your own piss is a thing.
You can be pro Palestine and not anti sematic. Give people more credit at parsing through details. My thoughts to everyone involved.
palestinians are semitic mate. if u're pro palestine u're pro semitic.
Before watching this, I honestly assumed that Ari Shaffir would be on the wrong side...
Im stunned.
Shame on you Howie Mandel.
Howie is playing the victim card how pathetic.
All Howie has is incredulousness. There's no argument against what Ari is saying.
There is, but it’s completely based on imagination 🤷🏼
Yeah, you could really see the gears grinding in his head lol like it was breaking his brain. Imagine being that drunk on the Kool Aid.
Ari is one of the greatest people I've ever followed and he has never taken an 'L' since I discovered him ten years ago. I'm gonna write his name down on the voting ballot this year.
Ari is the voice of reason, who knew
lol Right?
Hey Howie, which is it safer to be, Jewish or Gazan?
Gazen?
why not ask this to Hersh?
he was jewish in Gaza
As a muslim I say the same. I go places in the midwest Ohio, southern Illinois, everyone is kind and nice.
They should be the one target, not us. There government are committing war crimes against muslims
"Shut the laptop. Go outside" and "statistically irrelevant" . Remember that.
As a Canadian, I used to be proud of Howie Mandel, now I'm embarrassed.
As a Canadian, why would you ever be proud of him? 😆
Protesting Nationalism is not anti-Semitism.
What's wrong with nationalism? The Palestinians want their own nation too, they're nationalists.
@@ColmPadraig I don't know man, its simply too close to Nazis and fascism for my tastes, but also would say the same about anything involving communism. These are failed systems and we need to get as far away from both ideas as possible.
@@ColmPadraig I would also admit, and looking at your name you may find this of interest, in the book Postnationalist Ireland by Richard Kearney he gives a lot of food for thoughts on nationalism. I still don't like the term though, and it is often irrelevant to larger truths or ignores history. Look at Germany my friend, the North DESPISED the barbaric Bavarians and Swabian people, these are my people on my mothers side so I can safely say this and theirs even stories by the Grimm brothers that reflect these stereotypes and animosity between the two, so in today's world we suddenly are suppose to be a "nation" when we were once the countries "rednecks" even in my grandfathers time.
So no, the idea of a nation really does seem invalid in most cases, as in the sense of something to identify yourself as above all else. It should be based on culture and local areas, nothing more, because that is your family and people where you have grown.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Culture is a racial construct
@@patrickbertlein4626being proud and loving your country is fascist? 😂
Is being against the actions of the Israeli government the same thing as being against Jewish people? Is being against your own government's actions in a given conflict and protesting that being against yourself and everyone else in your entire culture, religion or race? No, it isn't.
No I love Jews also Arabs from the Levant are Semitic
I am semitic Syrian 100% Arab and Muslim and love Jews I am Anti Zionist Anti Apartheid Anti Occupation Anti Israhell
Yeah people criticize the Chinese government all the time but nobody suggests that you’re racist against Chinese people for doing so
A ton of Jews including myself want Netanyahu to step down NOW!
💯💯💯
@@nzelver559 Bb stepping down isn't going to solve everything, theirs a good chance he would be replaced by someone worse.
It’s honestly nice to hear Ari’s actual perspective all I know of him is comedic shit which is fine but it’s cool to see. It’s not antisemitism to tell Israel not to do a genocide. Don’t let these wannabe victims gaslight you.
YES, our problem is with Zionism, not Jews. I am a Muslim Arab with Palestinian origins and I actually love Jews and respect their religion so much because it's closer to Islam than modern Christianity (worshiping one God). I would eat any food without hesitation once I learn that it's kosher.
Ari keeping it 💯 as usual
Recently moved to a part of NE Philadelphia that is literally half Ulranians, Russian, Arab Muslims and Jews . . . These people go to war in their own countries but here in America decide to live in the same neighborhoods 😭
Eastern Ukrainians largely see themselves as Russians.
You do realise it is America that stirs up war and hatred in the Muslim countries and Russia? Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
@@samboy90 nawww no 💩
@@samboy90 American didn't stir up anything in Russia. They invaded Ukraine on their own.
@@Ahgmimi Ukraine is for America the same thing as Israel: both are tools to control and have influence (basically imperialism) in these areas, Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
Putin didn’t attack without any warning; he warned America multiple times about their expansion to the East. Ukraine becoming part of NATO would mean for Russia having their enemies right next to them.
So saying “the USA didn’t stir up anything” is the understatement of the year.
And I love how you didn’t get into the Middle East because you know there’s no denial in it. I mean, even Trump himself said they destroyed the Middle East. But to be fair, both Russia and the USA are still using the Middle East as their war ground, and have been for decades…
It’s crazy to see Ari speak about being out and his experiences. And Howie discrediting real life experiences, saying that he never goes out, and saying that his made up thoughts are more real than reality
Go Ari!
Never forget the USS Liberty and all the brave men who died that day!
My buddy is exactly the same as howie. he is constantly acting like the sky is falling, yet he lives in one of the top 10 safest cities in the US, living comfortably w/ his family & more privilege than anyone I know.
Also, notice howie's counter-argument:
Ari: "Those students are just dumb."
howie: "you're wrong"
“They cry out as they strike you”
Ive never in my life have ever seen anything remotely anti-Semitic in Canada ever.
There was just a shooting at a Jewish school in Canada.
Come drinking with me lol
I definitely have (many years ago, mind you) but no more or less than any other thing like that, definitely not the norm. Expecting no 1 individual among millions to have an ignorant opinion is unreasonable anyway imo, people just have dumb opinions sometimes, it's not the end of the world.
Same, in Florida. Never seen anything once in my life.
great anecdotes, as we all know that is where the truth is, in random anecdotes that are given anonymously on the internet.
Ari is 100 percent right... there is no institutional racism... its all in your feelings and in your laptop
Ari loves gold so much even his water is golden.
It's a part of the culture.
it's actually the bottle he pissed in.
Ill be the first to say it. That was a pretty funny joke lol
I live in Chicago where the Citizen app is super popular. I swear to god at least 5 times a week I’ll get some crazy notification for a shooting or something and walk to the place it supposedly happened, and nothing will be there. The app just algorithmically feeds people fear to keep them subscribing.
Bad things do happen but you might not see it actually since the world is so big and that citizen app is focusing on just the bad part. You just end up watching that 1% of the bad events all the time.
this is so true. You can look for events in Chicago reported and will be nothing at all.
Ari is kinda bang on and has a healthy perspective on it.
"ANTISEMETISM EVERYWHERE!!!! ITS LIKE ANUDDA SHOAH!!!!"
People are pissed with Isreal's handling of Gaza, that's not antisemetism.
ya ia am sure you care about Gaza or know even what is going on. Do you have a problem also with Hamas using people as shields, or building their center in a hospital, or hamas killing their own people, why dont you talk about that.
@@gsp3428 lol human 🛡
The Israeli propaganda
@@gsp3428 I've seen countless videos of that conflict...Not once I've seen Hamas attack in a populated area..I have seen IDF use human shields put kids on jeeps hood and walking behind them or sending to see if there is booby traps.
@@bruteboy123 he literally just listed facts
@mitchgoldstein6720 What facts? Their algorithms deliberately target civilians. Look up "where's daddy".
Ari is 1000% on point. Also, I love how he says what he says and Howie is immediacy like "nope." Like ok Howie, settle down. You asked the question but the second it wasn't what he wanted said he just said "Nope. Wrong." The left is REALLY open to hearing other's experiences.
It’s a perspective issue, like... if your woke enough to think ari was racist in this video, then racism is everywhere!!
Funny enough the people calling this so called rise of antisemitism is being pushed from the right
One guy goes out and tours the country
Another says I never go out
Then argues
And if these guys think California resembles the country
It’s not
Howie had zero argument
Howie knows he has to argue though - otherwise the episode ends too early.
California lives rent free in a lot of people's heads. It's kind of pathetic now.
I love Ari and I like Howie but I don’t support Israel keeping Palestinians from having any statehood. Does that make me antisemitic? Or critical of a government?
Probably according to the ADL lol
Yes because they demand you recognize Israel as the only Jewish State. Then they turn around and say Israel can’t represent Jews as a people. I say it represents them perfectly.
7:59 Ari tells it how is
You know what's statistically irrelevant? Ari's opinion. Bro is simply masquerading as an "asajew"... He's like the 3% fringe.
Sometimes I wonder what stuff he smokes that is potent enough to transport him into that La-La-Land he seems to be in most of the time, I want some too.
Wow. my new favorite tiny hat. He must be the only one on the planet that has divorced himself from ridiculous victimhood and embraced reality. Kudos. Can't wait to see the backlash
Yea lmao there is still hope
Ari thrives in backlash and remains invincible.
They’re out there. The tribe excommunicates them.
Saying tiny hat is antisemitic..
@@zedleed999 Wearing tiny hats is antisemitic.