We have released a new video on Ovation! This time it's a CS24-C Classic Ovation. In that video i continue Mediterranean Sundance pretty much where it ended in this video. Link - th-cam.com/video/wHGhNj3jtbM/w-d-xo.html
Just what I've been looking for. I just discovered Ovation, and told my brother. He laughed and said I've been missing out. I'm looking to buy first personal six string. As I've been playing Bass for a short time. but I'm itching to play something a lot more melodic. So far, the Ovation seems to tickle my fancy. It also looks like something I'd play at Ren Fairs or the like. lol
If I'm not wrong, CC and CE identify the different color (at least in the past it was like thar) or for recent production maybe the E stand for Elite (the multi holes top) and C for Classic (only one hole in the middle)
Thanks for cycling through the various models. I am inclined towards a shallow or super shallow type due to an old shoulder injury that hates my rather thick dreadnaught. I am mostly a strummer guitar player. Can someone outline the sound differences between these two types? Thanks. 🙏
According to me (the guy playing in the video), the super shallows have a bit more mid to them. At the same time the sound is suprisingly full, with a nice low end. Although they don't quite match the loudness of the mid depth and deep contour models. In summary i would say that the super shallow is a good choice, especially in regard to format/sound quality. If i were to choose a model it would probably be a super shallow variant because of what's stated above :).
@@davekennedy8626 hi Dave I have this exact model for nearly four years and I also have a shoulder injury and rib injury's for years now but these are great guitars so comfortable and easy to play but most of all loud enough unplugged in a jam session with other people playing Jumbo's and dreadnoughts just cuts through nice I have other expensive guitars as well but this is the one I play mostly especially when I'm giving guitar lessons for hours at a time so hopefully this will helpful to you Dave
@@robertmoore6263 Thanks! I’ve ordered a Celebrity Elite Exotic super shallow. Going to be a couple of months waiting for it to show up but I am so looking forward to playing it.
The mic's pick up the room also. I get a mic'd sound from my plugged in setup. What is the anpcthat you ate using, plugged is dark than any I have ever heard. Nice playing.
@@Evrakuf Is it okay if I use D'Addario Phosphor Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings Extra Light .010-.047 EJ15 strings for my Ovation balladeer 1861? or should I get the Adamas?
On my Ovation Celebrity Elite, I have been using Ernie Ball Earthwoood Medium Light. I have been loving Ernie Ball Alumibronze strings on my Garrison dreadnaught, but found them to sound really messy and muddy against the resonant bowl of my Ovation. I switched to Earthwoods and the clarity is incredible. It's all personal preference though. :)
Funny and sad at the same time for ME. In the early seventies I bought my first Ovation (BEFORE they had electronics!) LOVED it, so in 1975 I bought 3 MORE (a 6-string GC Custom, a 12-string GC Custom, and the NYLON 1624 Country Artist). In 1980 I purchased a GORGEOUS Natural Custom Legend. I then had FIVE (5) Ovations that I loved... By 1984 I had FOUR (4) Ovations with SPLIT TOPS, in the SAME PLACE!!! (from the bridge to the bottom of the lower bout, STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE on 3, STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, then turned right towards the treble side and lifted about 3 inches on the CUSTOM LEGEND!) The ONLY one that hasn't split is the NYLON one, which I still play TODAY. Sorry Ovation, ONE would be a "FREAK THING", TWO would be a "COINCIDENCE", but FOUR is way BEYOND acceptable... I had no choice but to take my business ELSEWHERE, and never looked back. Still love my NYLON, and on the 'bright side", believe it or not, the CUSTOM LEGEND with the "lifted top", STILL holds TUNE! LOLOLOLOL... GO FIGURE!
@@bobo8741 Not specifically, but ALWAYS kept in cases, lived from NY to FL and I have 21 other guitars of different brands (both electric and acoustic) and never have had a issue of ANY kind. Some OLDER, some NEWER, but no issues at ALL... Weird... Thanks, ;)
I have a 1995 Elite Standard, i bought it back in 1995. It still sounds incredible, but i think it got the same problem. The top around the bridge cracks, also the bottom grape sound hole is lifted. I live in Indonesia where the humidity is high (60%-70% all of the year) so I put the silica gell/dehumidifier inside the case when I don't use the guitar. I have another 2 Taylor guitars no problem at all.
I have never had that problem actually. Having the jack on the back side is not a problem as long as you play the guitar in a "standard" way. Although i do believe it could be a problem if you play the guitar like you do with a classical one. Then it's possible that the cable will poke you in the stomach.
Love/hate. I've had one Ovation Elite since 1993 and a C2078LX (discontinued) since 2008. I love the rock sold necks and the even response no matter where or how you play. BUT, I took out most of the bracing on both of them for a Breedlove cantilever style. Yeh, I realize most people don't reconstruct guitars that sold for around $1200. The Elite has a Fishman Presys with my own homemade double-flexing contact piezo (weighted open top frame at the disc edges). The C2078LX has the Op-Pro system which does away with the usual Ovation spit-buzz. Mine kick most Gibsons and Taylors to the curb acoustically. I've always though Ovation should only use the multihole design on the most expensive (yes, way over-priced) models and those should only have had the deep bodies. My feeling is when your cheap stiff looks just like your good stuff, it hurts the brand.
most don't tell what the bowl dept is.....how come?. drives me nuts. look online and show the guitar and the model but lacks full description. come on!!
Yeah, understandable.. The models featured in this video has the following bowl depths: CE-48P - Super Shallow RSE225-5 - Mid depth CS24P - Mid depth CE-44 - Mid depth 1771VL-1GC - Mid Depth
You're a good player but what are you plugging it into? Your plugged in sound is horrid. I've been playing Ovations for 30 plus years and I get such a great plugged in sound.
I agree with you, the plugged in sound is not as good as one would want. Next time i'm thinking about putting a mic in front of one of our high end acoustic guitar amplifiers. This should remedy many of the problems with the plugged in sound in this video. When i created this video i plugged in to a Zoom H6, of course with Hi-Z activated. The point of this was to demonstrate the "raw" performance of the piezo mic but exactly as you point out, this was not a good way to communicate this.
Hi, Changing to a bone nut will subtly change the tone of the guitar. You will not notice a difference when playing bar chords (because the strings doesn't resonate over the nut when playing those kinds of chords). You will however notice a difference when playing open chords. It will also be more durable than a plastic nut.
Seems to me that the the "plugged-in" sound is like that of the very cheapest pickups on the very cheapest guitars. I thought the whole point of Ovation was their pickup sound.
It might be that we have try to find a way to "communicate" the plugged in sound better, maybe by recording it another way. Plugged in i think Ovation really does sound good, especially compared to other brands in the same price range.
It could also be a matter of how you EQ it through your system and how you're transferring that sound to the listeners ears, whether live or through a recording. I do think that the mics sounded amazing, it may just be that the sound needs to be a little more polished from the pickup(EQ, reverb, compression/sustain, etc.).
I'm considering buying one of these but can't help to notice the awful amount of fret buzz. Especially the G and the D string sound buzzy as hell. Maybe its just the loud playstyle? Great playing anyway thanks for the video
Yeah, i think it's partly my fault that the piezo mics doesn't sound as good as one would expect. I actually plugged the guitar straight in to the audio interface and i'm not certain that i had the impedance dialed in right. I think i will do another one of these and try to focus more on the piezo part. In real life i think these pickups sound quite good.
I guess all guitars showed are from China except 1771 that should come from Korea (but not 100% sure). That's why the sound of 1771 seems better (no big difference plugged/unplugged compared with others). At the time of the video the factory in US was closed by Fender company that bought the Ovation brand. Now, since Gewa got the brand, they opened again a small factory in US, but only for very high level of instruments. All guitars in this video are mid-low level from Ovation production (I mean, less than 1k dollars).
There is no real comparison the piezo sounds way more responsive and alive and more in the mix even tho we’re only hearing acoustic guitar but it would lift a mix with drums bass vocals and even electric … they all sounded better in my opinion in the piezo
We have released a new video on Ovation! This time it's a CS24-C Classic Ovation. In that video i continue Mediterranean Sundance pretty much where it ended in this video.
Link - th-cam.com/video/wHGhNj3jtbM/w-d-xo.html
Mediterranean Sundance a man of culture i see
Well that double-neck is incredible I've never seen that before that's some damn fine playing
Richie Sambora was famous for those.
Richie Sambora signature.
Thank you for doing this for me appreciate it keep up the ovation videos
Glen Campbell put Ovation Guitar's on the map back in the late 60s and early 70s.
Shannon - Seeing Glen playing Ovation is what made me buy my first one around ‘74. I’ve played them ever since, and I love them!
😍 This all very good. I love Ovation guitar
Me too! My first guitar that I bought with my own mine was a 2009 Ovation Elite LX that I bought in Dec. 2019. It’s still my favorite thing I own.
Dang! Makes me wish I had taken guitar when I was younger and stuck with it! Or practiced more as an adult.
Nice, I haven’t seen a lot of people play Paco de Lucia on TH-cam.
I can't stop watching and listening to this.
Wish I could find a CS24-P with the same finish as the guitar in the video.
Just what I've been looking for. I just discovered Ovation, and told my brother. He laughed and said I've been missing out. I'm looking to buy first personal six string. As I've been playing Bass for a short time. but I'm itching to play something a lot more melodic. So far, the Ovation seems to tickle my fancy. It also looks like something I'd play at Ren Fairs or the like. lol
They are all beaut ful. Do you still have them?
Great video. Does anyone know the difference between a CC44 and a CE44? Thanks
If I'm not wrong, CC and CE identify the different color (at least in the past it was like thar) or for recent production maybe the E stand for Elite (the multi holes top) and C for Classic (only one hole in the middle)
@@stellac.9821 Thanks for your response
great playing - love the Ovation line
So is your guitar a 6 string or 12 string? Its both at the same time, kind of a quantum instrument!
Wow imagine changing all those strings! Very nice guitar tho.👍
Thanks for cycling through the various models. I am inclined towards a shallow or super shallow type due to an old shoulder injury that hates my rather thick dreadnaught. I am mostly a strummer guitar player. Can someone outline the sound differences between these two types? Thanks. 🙏
According to me (the guy playing in the video), the super shallows have a bit more mid to them. At the same time the sound is suprisingly full, with a nice low end. Although they don't quite match the loudness of the mid depth and deep contour models.
In summary i would say that the super shallow is a good choice, especially in regard to format/sound quality. If i were to choose a model it would probably be a super shallow variant because of what's stated above :).
@@Evrakuf Thanks, man. It is hard to find a store with any in stock around here. I played the only one I found for a few minutes and quite liked it.
@@davekennedy8626 hi Dave I have this exact model for nearly four years and I also have a shoulder injury and rib injury's for years now but these are great guitars so comfortable and easy to play but most of all loud enough unplugged in a jam session with other people playing Jumbo's and dreadnoughts just cuts through nice I have other expensive guitars as well but this is the one I play mostly especially when I'm giving guitar lessons for hours at a time so hopefully this will helpful to you Dave
@@robertmoore6263 Thanks! I’ve ordered a Celebrity Elite Exotic super shallow. Going to be a couple of months waiting for it to show up but I am so looking forward to playing it.
@@davekennedy8626 your welcome Dave let me know what you think about it when you have played it for a while
I think it has an equalizer module did not see him try to adjust it.
The mic's pick up the room also. I get a mic'd sound from my plugged in setup. What is the anpcthat you ate using, plugged is dark than any I have ever heard. Nice playing.
Is it possible to buy a deep bowl ovation these days? I can only find mid bowls...
Good vid. Do ovations use big, jumbo frets,?? Thnx bro
Le représentant ( vendeur ) de " Ovation guitare " en France,s'il vous plait,merci.
outstanding
what kind of strings are you using? The sound is amazing.
They're Adamas strings, comes standard with Ovation.
@@Evrakuf oh Okay...they look very thin and almost transparent/white.
What Adamas strings should I get if I have a ovation balladeer 1861?
@@Evrakuf Is it okay if I use D'Addario Phosphor Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings Extra Light .010-.047 EJ15 strings for my Ovation balladeer 1861? or should I get the Adamas?
@@ChowChannel1 It's okay to use any strings that you want, as long as they're for steel guitars. It all comes down to personal preference.
On my Ovation Celebrity Elite, I have been using Ernie Ball Earthwoood Medium Light. I have been loving Ernie Ball Alumibronze strings on my Garrison dreadnaught, but found them to sound really messy and muddy against the resonant bowl of my Ovation. I switched to Earthwoods and the clarity is incredible. It's all personal preference though. :)
Funny and sad at the same time for ME. In the early seventies I bought my first Ovation (BEFORE they had electronics!) LOVED it, so in 1975 I bought 3 MORE (a 6-string GC Custom, a 12-string GC Custom, and the NYLON 1624 Country Artist). In 1980 I purchased a GORGEOUS Natural Custom Legend. I then had FIVE (5) Ovations that I loved... By 1984 I had FOUR (4) Ovations with SPLIT TOPS, in the SAME PLACE!!! (from the bridge to the bottom of the lower bout, STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE on 3, STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, then turned right towards the treble side and lifted about 3 inches on the CUSTOM LEGEND!) The ONLY one that hasn't split is the NYLON one, which I still play TODAY. Sorry Ovation, ONE would be a "FREAK THING", TWO would be a "COINCIDENCE", but FOUR is way BEYOND acceptable... I had no choice but to take my business ELSEWHERE, and never looked back. Still love my NYLON, and on the 'bright side", believe it or not, the CUSTOM LEGEND with the "lifted top", STILL holds TUNE! LOLOLOLOL... GO FIGURE!
Did you humidifier guitars?
@@bobo8741 Not specifically, but ALWAYS kept in cases, lived from NY to FL and I have 21 other guitars of different brands (both electric and acoustic) and never have had a issue of ANY kind. Some OLDER, some NEWER, but no issues at ALL... Weird... Thanks, ;)
I have a 1995 Elite Standard, i bought it back in 1995. It still sounds incredible, but i think it got the same problem. The top around the bridge cracks, also the bottom grape sound hole is lifted. I live in Indonesia where the humidity is high (60%-70% all of the year) so I put the silica gell/dehumidifier inside the case when I don't use the guitar. I have another 2 Taylor guitars no problem at all.
@@EdwinZakaria ..a martin d18 bridge in the philippines did the exact same thing.
please review celebrity by ovation Cc57
What song is he playing on all of these guitars
Question about Ovations: Does the input jack on the back of the guitar ever get in the way?
I have never had that problem actually. Having the jack on the back side is not a problem as long as you play the guitar in a "standard" way.
Although i do believe it could be a problem if you play the guitar like you do with a classical one. Then it's possible that the cable will poke you in the stomach.
You could use a 90 degree jack. It works well for me.
@@mikeellis9720 Ok, thanks.
I'm getting one right now!
@@chasethompson2748 +1 on the right angle jack. That's how I plug mine in.
Love/hate.
I've had one Ovation Elite since 1993 and a C2078LX (discontinued) since 2008.
I love the rock sold necks and the even response no matter where or how you play.
BUT, I took out most of the bracing on both of them for a Breedlove cantilever style.
Yeh, I realize most people don't reconstruct guitars that sold for around $1200.
The Elite has a Fishman Presys with my own homemade double-flexing contact piezo (weighted open top frame at the disc edges).
The C2078LX has the Op-Pro system which does away with the usual Ovation spit-buzz.
Mine kick most Gibsons and Taylors to the curb acoustically.
I've always though Ovation should only use the multihole design on the most expensive (yes, way over-priced) models and those should only have had the deep bodies.
My feeling is when your cheap stiff looks just like your good stuff, it hurts the brand.
18-string Adamas 🎸 rocks!👍 Guessing this video's generated some buzz with Ovation Fan Club 😉
Muito bom!
Paco and Al DiMeola. Ole!
Al DiMeola❤
Is the Samson CO2 can play as electric?
The CO2:s are the microphones! I hope that answered your question.
what software do you use for the piezo sound
I used Logic Pro X to record. The piezo signal was fed to the computer through a Zoom H6.
Strunz & Farah! Wow! I am impressed!
What was the first song you played
It's called "Mediterranean sundance" or "Rio Ancho" depending on which version you want!
Leenus thank you
@@Evrakuf a tribute to Al DiMeola
Hey how can I even buy an ovation guitar online? The website seems to be only browsing not shopping
On Ovation's website you can find dealers. You then choose International or US, depending on which country you live in.
@@Evrakuf thanks i'll take a look at it
most don't tell what the bowl dept is.....how come?. drives me nuts. look online and show the guitar and the model but lacks full description. come on!!
Yeah, understandable.. The models featured in this video has the following bowl depths:
CE-48P - Super Shallow
RSE225-5 - Mid depth
CS24P - Mid depth
CE-44 - Mid depth
1771VL-1GC - Mid Depth
You're a good player but what are you plugging it into?
Your plugged in sound is horrid.
I've been playing Ovations for 30 plus years and I get such a great plugged in sound.
I agree with you, the plugged in sound is not as good as one would want. Next time i'm thinking about putting a mic in front of one of our high end acoustic guitar amplifiers. This should remedy many of the problems with the plugged in sound in this video. When i created this video i plugged in to a Zoom H6, of course with Hi-Z activated. The point of this was to demonstrate the "raw" performance of the piezo mic but exactly as you point out, this was not a good way to communicate this.
0:05 what song?
It's called "Mediterranean Sundance".
does someone knows the name of the first song played?
It's called Rio Ancho. If you want a version more alike the version played here, you should check out Mediterranean Sundance.
@@Evrakuf Thanks
Flamingo is a gift. You have that gift.
Al is that you?
They sounds hard and crispy and no resonant
Hi Lee is Rob here again just a quick question would a bone nut and saddle make a difference in sound to the shallow back ovation thanks
Hi,
Changing to a bone nut will subtly change the tone of the guitar. You will not notice a difference when playing bar chords (because the strings doesn't resonate over the nut when playing those kinds of chords). You will however notice a difference when playing open chords. It will also be more durable than a plastic nut.
@@Evrakuf thanks for the quick reply
They play so much towards the "aerospace" history! Yet they sound horrendous plugged in.
Richie Sambora double neck ovation star!!
No denying your talent and skill and it's much appreciated. But, dang you're packing.
Seems to me that the the "plugged-in" sound is like that of the very cheapest pickups on the very cheapest guitars. I thought the whole point of Ovation was their pickup sound.
It might be that we have try to find a way to "communicate" the plugged in sound better, maybe by recording it another way. Plugged in i think Ovation really does sound good, especially compared to other brands in the same price range.
It could also be a matter of how you EQ it through your system and how you're transferring that sound to the listeners ears, whether live or through a recording.
I do think that the mics sounded amazing, it may just be that the sound needs to be a little more polished from the pickup(EQ, reverb, compression/sustain, etc.).
Disadvantages if someone put something inside because the sound holes are small :(
there's a service manhole on the back
The models with the sound holes sound better. I’m not that keen on their piezo sound
I'm considering buying one of these but can't help to notice the awful amount of fret buzz.
Especially the G and the D string sound buzzy as hell. Maybe its just the loud playstyle?
Great playing anyway thanks for the video
Marvelous plastic sound of round back, very pretty
It would be nice to hear them, unplugged... without amps... to hear the real tones...
When it says "Samson CO2" in the right bottom corner it means the guitar is unplugged. The sound is picked up by the mics.
@@Evrakuf thank you..i guess Piezo is the pickups?
@@mrgee3936 Yeah, thats right. Piezo is the "internal" mic of the guitar.
#Alipata from Indonesia
👍🤠🎸
1:16 2:03
It's a shame that Taylor travel acoustics sound as good acoustically as any ovation, including the 70s USA models. Sad.
Can i get a set of strings for this guitar? 😂 🤣 😂
👍👍👍👍😚😚😚😚
They sound alright when mic'd but their piezo inputs are Walmart-tier. My $120 Johnson had a better pickup.
Yeah, i think it's partly my fault that the piezo mics doesn't sound as good as one would expect. I actually plugged the guitar straight in to the audio interface and i'm not certain that i had the impedance dialed in right. I think i will do another one of these and try to focus more on the piezo part. In real life i think these pickups sound quite good.
The piezo sounds the worst every time.
are ovation guitars made in china?
They have three tiers: China, Korea and USA.
@@Evrakuf do you know how I could recognise where they're made?
@@periklis1994ify en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovation_Guitar_Company
Here you can read more about the different models. Navigate to "Model overview".
I guess all guitars showed are from China except 1771 that should come from Korea (but not 100% sure). That's why the sound of 1771 seems better (no big difference plugged/unplugged compared with others). At the time of the video the factory in US was closed by Fender company that bought the Ovation brand. Now, since Gewa got the brand, they opened again a small factory in US, but only for very high level of instruments. All guitars in this video are mid-low level from Ovation production (I mean, less than 1k dollars).
Piezo
ok show off...
I thought Ovations all plug in?
There is no real comparison the piezo sounds way more responsive and alive and more in the mix even tho we’re only hearing acoustic guitar but it would lift a mix with drums bass vocals and even electric … they all sounded better in my opinion in the piezo