Games workshop Eliminates 30+ Kits!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video Jay talks about the Games Workshop and Forge World kits that are going away! We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday!
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I dunno Jay, I think the best miniature they've ever made is that one Nurgling wearing a deathguard helmet.
Sassy nurgling
@@plastikpanzerfactory6733 yes, exactly
So true, that Nurgling has the inquisitorial seal of approval
@@Triptides77 I want to buy the champion kit just for him lol
@@plastikpanzerfactory6733 I did, and stuck him on his own base. Little dude is so sassy he counts as a whole swarm.
I’m not a marine player, so maybe I just don’t get it, but I don’t see any of the newer dreadnoughts as an upgrade to the boxnought. The boxnought is a walking tomb, wider than it is tall, with stunted limbs robbed of refinement and tenderness. Its design perfectly embody the brutality and tragedy of interment, while still being appealing (and, let’s be honest, kind of cute).
The new ones just look like gundams.
Gundams more human-like, nu dreads are like Rodis without high heels and just plain bad
You're not alone. Though my favourite is the Contemptor, the Casteferrum holds a place in my heart. The Contemptor, to me, is like a walking sarcophagus while the Casteferrum is like a walking mausoleum.
I agree
CSM now has no version of Dreadnought :/
@@DoomBringerDANTE Hellbrute is a dreadnaught with a weird name
Growing up those forge world greater demons were the coolest things ever. Never played a demon army but I always wanted one of them.
Always wanted one. How much? No wonder I don't have one.
For new people to 40k like me it would be awesome for you to show models you are bringing up like at 3:25 so I know what you are referencing! :)
I didn’t expect to see you here. What army do you play?
I like the old dreadnaught better. The new one looks like a mech not like a coffin
I'm with ya. And the hand is key for my tastes apparently. I don't particularly like the ven dred hands. I need the massive crushing plates. Don't like the fingers nearly as much
@@wiccanthropy1956there's an option for the crushing plates bro
The old ones are hilariously puny in scale tho. I know the new dreads don't got as much cool factor but the scale is awesome.
@@rolandnavarro5946 it's the new models that keep getting bigger for no reason imo
@The Nerf Kid and it's the best one. I got mine second hand and bought the plates. Mmm setting the murder table aaaaa
imagine if GW did something like Hero's Forge but with all their minis. Easily digibash your favorite minis and then plug and print
I love this idea
Well the eastern Europe resin forges go brrrrr.
The newer dreadnoughts are freakin fiugly .I hate 'em , I like my metal heavy too as in dropping the original Bjorn The Fell Handed on my foot and losing a big toenail
I think one thing that’ll be missed of the old Sternguard vet kit is that it just came with so many options that I just don’t expect them to do with the Primaris one.
This, the new sternguard will most definitely not be as customizable.
@@oga-booga I’m just hoping that it still lets you bring all those combis (even though combi weapons are now just 1 profile) a special weapon and a heavy weapon.
R.I.P to the great unclean one
No, nurgle will make sure he is resurrected
Edit: nevermind, we still got plastic
No sadness for Bray’arth? i know templars and Salamanders aren’t close friends, but losing a named character in a founding chapter/egion? That hurts, also rip Pedros, ouch. That hursts too
From the Surinous crusade of black templars i offer sorrow at your loss. I loved that model. It's one of the things vulkan was said to have made himself. I didn't want him, but I'm sorry to see the eradication of all castraferrum dreds.
Exess gluttony is not Nurgle. It's Slaanesh. Wobbly flesh and bulged bellies on Nurgle worshippers and demons come from rotting.
In a recent article, GW said that the Brutalis is the spiritual successor to the Furioso so hopefully we’ll see a new psychic dreadnought, or at least an upgrade kit at some point.
I just bought my Furioso and my Librarian Dreadnought. Idc if the Furioso gets neglected rules-wise. I regretted selling my metal furioso 25 years ago and now he is back and gets a honourable place in my new blood angels army
I think the 4 greater daemons will get new forgeworld kits, I think there will always be a need for exalted greater daemons but the plastics closed the gap too much for the old ones to stick around, The exalted need to be bigger, Imposing, These are meant to throw down with knights and titans, I think they will get brand new sculpts with modern asthetics so they feel worth the price tag
If G.W were to add a 3d print area to their online store where Stl's of their oop models could be bought they would probably still make a bunch of money from these old models without having to risk having production on minis that aren't flying off the shelves...I guess they probably aren't looking to encourage 3d printing but it would be a nice way to keep the kits still available without eating up manufacturing space.
There is no chance they would put up STL files.
Well there's actually no reason why GW can't 3D print these old kits as a means of being cheaper and allowing them to print on demand. This way there's no stock/inventory to maintain and no storage needed. When they decide to just drop models, recasters eventually find a way to keep it going. GW can prevent at least that problem by #d printing themselves. And let's be honest, the 3D printed pieces would be cleaner and less problematic then the resins they're stuck with at Forgeworld.
Sometimes it's like GW still thinks its the 1990s.
@@ColonelHoganStalag13 They'd need to redo those hand-sculpted kits in 3D. If they have a copy machine like Perry Brothers they could do it.
Mantic started selling STLs like a week ago
RIP Bray'arth Ashmantle. We of the Promethium Cult salute you as you return to the forge. o7
The FW Greater Daemons are different entities than the GW plastics (they have a specific profile in Monster Arcanum and Imperial Armour). In fact, except the nurgle one which is mostly an exact plastic copy, the FWs are bigger, and the Khorne one is really HUGE.
Isn't the bloodthirster and lord of change like twice as big
A big thing with the boxnaught, is that in Horus Heresy it's called the Castraferrum Dreadnought and it has specific rules irc. But 30k players are used to getting the shaft now lol.
hello, this is 30k player over here. and yep. i love the heresy but stuff like this is annoying. i haven't ever gotten a boxnaught (I have a leviathan and contemptor) and was planning to once I got some more money. but now. welp.
good news. my local shop might still have it. they tend to have old stuff. so hopefully, they still have it.
Would be funny if it turned out to be the new plastic dread that is in the release schedule.
@@halfknight2310 I hear a 3d printer calling from your future. There's plenty of 1 to 1 examples and you could print 100 box naughts for the price of on GW kit. 🤫 when painted no one will ever know.
@@jc7997aj i second this as modelers unlike gw actualy care and release universal AND chapter specific fully customizable ferrum+ dreads faithfully to old stuff and printers make better models than forgeworld resin
Idk, $300 for a fake boxnaught seems steep. Even your max field able of 3 seems excessive.
All they had to do was upscale the boxnaught, everybody would be happy, but no.
Absolutely gutted, I've had my eye on the keepet of secrets for my Slaanesh army. Not the biggest fan of the current plastic kit. Time to get a 3D printer. Honestly the only greater demon I'm not dsappointed with are the gw lord of change and maybe e great unclean. We need new demons, come on gw gimmie some more daemonettes or something that isn't a Hq choice. And please no more space marines lieutenants
Best we can do is a couple of Space Marine lieutenants, sorry
I prefer older miniatures in general cause they're not disgustingly overdesigned but I guess thats what 3d printing is for ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯
Cool, bro, hope she sees this
The fact that age of sigmar now no longer exists on forge world, but they’re still pumping out Horus heresy and old world stuff is coming, makes me think that it’s transitioning into something just for those other games. Which makes sense that a website which is a relic of the past is only being used to sustain the games that are set in the past settings.
Forge World is likely transitioning to focusing on “specialist” games, which includes Horus Heresy and Old World, but also Necromunda and Blood Bowl (but, noticeably, NOT the other skirmish games Kill Team, Warcry and Underworlds). It makes a certain amount of sense: those four (and Titanicus?) are all somewhat oldschool games detached from the main 40k and AoS brands, and supposedly Forge World are closely involved in their production, so their models are an integrated part of the game (their rules are in the main rulebooks alongside the plastic units), not an awkward add-on the way they are for 40k. They are pretty much Forge World games with some GW support, not the other way around. Rather than being a relic of the past, I think Forge World is being transitioned into being the second coming of the Fanatic branch, and I’m here for it (Mordheim revival when?)
I just wish GW/Citadel would finally get with the program and provide a new Death Korps of Krieg set in plastic.
Also shame I'll never get a chance to assemble and paint Gabriel Angelos, the main-ish character from Dawn of War that basically helped fuel my interest with finding out what this whole 40k thing was in the first place. RIP.
No sir. Sail the high seas and listen to those 3d printers go brrr.
We are here for you sir. Old minis never die.
They already did.
And after that.... no more Death Korps in plastic, please.
@@JayJapanB Kill team kit doesn't count. They need to properly do the range in plastic.
@@wolfehoffmann2697agreed
@@JayJapanB
Why no more?
The FW unclean one is incredible, it captures the evil menace at the heart of Nurgle. The plastic one is just cartoony, which I don't like about new Nurgle stuff at all. (The only recent one to capture that is the new horse rider one for AoS imo)
The salamander's Dread is also the body for a specific character that is that body and the two special arms. He's one of 3 characters we had. Now only two. :(
As a fellow salamander player. It sucks. I’m gonna still run breyarth ashmantle and just make rules for him.
I dunno about people claiming the old dreadnought is better. I mean comparing the redemptor to the old dreadnought the redemptor really does look way better, kinda like how the primaris marines are just straight up better sculpts. The maine design changes i can see is the redemptor getting elbows and knees, which Personally i think just makes so much more sense, I admit theres a certain charm to just tacking a giant gun to the side of a box but..... it DOES look goofy... and the Redemptor looks more like a they put a coffin into a mech, especially with the coffin litterally visible where the head is on the old model. Personally I think the redemptor looks way more badass, although i admit having one arm without elbows would be cool, i feel like that would probably be a simple enough conversion.
I'd really love to see the old sternguard options released as a non-specific chapter upgrade sprue - perhaps a character upgrade sprue as I really love the options it gave.
Forgeworld has almost nothing left! With knights getting plastics you might be slowly getting your wish.
13:01 I actually like the old blood thirster BETTER, but the new one is cool; it definitely needs multiple holes drilled to run baling wire through the flames and to replace the hammer whip
They recently spoiled a plastic Damocles Command Rhino, so perhaps the 'ha ha missed out on these last time' models were a teaser
The stupitist part is that There are now LITERALLY NO AGE OF SIGMAR FORGE WORLD MODELS!
Is this bad or good, I haven't yet decided.
The excess of Slanesh is fantastically easy to define, it's just not possible to express that for toys aimed at kids! 🍆🍑 etc.
i'm not a fan of the new greater deamons
Of all the things, they took my bomber! I wanted a squadron. It won’t be long before there are no Necron FW models at all. And sadly since we’re Xenos plastic for us will never come. The Acanthrites remain but not my bomber?
At least long ago I bought one of everything. They can cancel anything they wish. But my dynasty will always have access to these tactical options. Will just have to use them sparingly.
The old unclean one was iconic with it's tongue around the sword. I'm kiba mad I never got a hell talon or blade for my Night Lords but the colossal cave squig and squig gobba are the two I'll really miss and kick myself for missing.
And sorry but the greatest model of all time is the 90's night goblin giving his foes the finger sculpted by Kev Adams
Look towards China. I've long given up on Forgeworld, not only because of the prices but most of the guys in the east know more about resin kit manufacturing than Forgeworld.
This is one of my biggest disagreements with you bud. I love box more than redemptor. I've built both and can say I love the box waaay more. More industrial hands is my thing. I hate the hands of contemptors and redemptor/ invictus. The leviathan has meaty hands. Love em. Just like the ironclad. Love those two. But I guess the hands are what sell me on a dred.
The new keeper of secrets look like a lobster, a human and a goat had a three way. for a model about lust and elegance, it misses the mark DRASTICLY, its an ugly model. It was ok in 3ed for a model to have her bits out but ever since they shifted focus to getting the 12 year olds to play and appease the parents. the fraction has lost was its about.
Jay, you put out three videos a week.
HOW could you possibly have more to say? 😂
Maybe new plastic inquisitors now?
My Sisters army needs one.
Nurgle Daemon Prince is gone as well. Very much regret never getting this (they also got rid of the citadel one) so now there is no Nurgle Dp anymore, and the standard DP kit does not suit Nurgle, at all.
I understand stopping the sale of some of these kits, the resins that is. However, ditching even the kits from Warhammer the game and killing the ability for people like Blood Ravens to play their leader is shitty
@@JohnWarhammer0 Agreed
Game workshop announced that they will also not be supporting these models that are being discontinued meaning you will not be able to use them in tournament. Once again it chose to me that what I have paid good money for games workshop has told me you are no longer welcome. I find it interesting that you did not mention that games workshop will not support these models in the future. Games workshop is not the best company anymore
i think forge world should really just focus on bits more than full on minis. maybe keep it with special characters that might not sell as much too. but beyond that i think selling stuff that can be essential to some armies *cough* custodies *cough* is bad.
it’d also be dope if they used it to sell alternate sculpts of different characters like those from the games or shows. kinda like what they’re doing for titus as a lieutenant count as. that’d be cool for like making your more generic characters a bit more special like for commissars.
like if they made it where you could go on forge world and be like “hmmmm i wanna make a really cool custom commissar for my new officio prefectus commissar kit so i’ll pick out this plasma pistol and power fist that’s she’ll hold in a different pose than standard and then i’ll pick this alternate leg sculpt and finally i’ll pick this cool unique head sculpt that has her yelling orders”
to me that would be the perfect use of forge world. let us buy alternate bits for different factions with maybe a few specific ones like unique arms/legs/chest/backpacks and such for specific sculpts. then they can justify their high prices despite not as good quality with the more work that’d have to be put into separating bits off their sprues and organized for sale lmao, and then because it’d mostly be individual bits they can just make massive sprues that scrunch as much stuff as they can onto them regardless of faction cause they’ll have a machine/person that separates it and sorts it later making it cheaper to produce molds
Литейщики передают привет.
Couldn't disagree more on the Slaanesh greater daemons. The new one so boring to me. Slaanesh has always been too edgy for my taste but that was the whole hedonistic point of them.
I've still got my first edition Bloodthirster somewhere... loved that one, hated every one of them since. Wish I could be more interested in Nurgle... because Great Unclean Ones always look boss, inspired design for that guy.
After seeing this I am tempted to put one of my old Dreadnaughts on the base of the primaris Dreadnough standing on his chest 😢
NOOOOO
Do it. I plan on running my old castra ferrum dreds even after they are gone.
"The future is now old man"
I'm not sad that Gabriel Angelos model is leaving. Not only is it a reminder of an absolutely terrible game, it also follows it's bad artstyle. Goddamn sixhead moai statue in terminator armor.
The forge world great unclean one always caught my eye but never been able to get one. Especially after gw went to regional pricing and Australia’s prices shot up like 40%+ over the UK pricing 😢
I do not like at all the new Great demon of Slaneesh. The old Forgeworld one was a lot better in my mind.
Fatphobic GW kills lifetime fan favourite great unclean one
“I spent so much time looking at there crotch” 💀💀💀💀💀
its a mistake to get rid of the old dred. I'd prefer a scaling up on size.
THEY ARE REMOVING MY é FAVORITE MODELS IN MY ARMY YOU CAN4T DO THIS TO MY BOYS
Sad day when models die
Forge world keeper of secrets looks endlessly more slaanesh and better
Day 27 of asking for a Centurion Squad magnetization and green stuff conversion video.
Once the video is made, I’ll become a top tier Patreon to get my name on the sergeant of the squad.
Get your scammer butt out of here
Edit: there was one of those scammer comments on this post
on the "excess violence is khorne, excess gluttony is nurgle etcetc"
thats ACTUALLY something thats adressed in the lore, the other 3 gods are by far and away most wary (and potentially most afraid) of slaanesh, as she has the potential to be stronger then all of them because of how her domain overlaps with them all
shes the youngest of the 4 (by a LAAAARGE margin) yet is already on par with them, and has by far and away the most influence with those who ARENT dedicated to chaos because everyone suffers from desire and the risk of excess, and because on the surface shes also the most, well , reasonable? in a way. shes about persuit of perfection and desire, the excess of all things, but these things arent necesarily "bad" by themselves, and so its VERY easy for people to fall to slaanesh, far easier then it is for the other gods, ebcause people can fall sort of by accident, jsut by persuing what they want and slowly becoming obsessed with being the best, or getting the best
slaanesh is potentially the strongest of the 4, and the other 3 all sort of work together to keep her down ebcause they are scared of her
T'was my thoughts, thank you
Losing Tyberos the Red Wake really hurts me. Not having any official rules for my chapter will be awful in 10th; I won't be able to bring my chapter master to the tournaments I go to and it hurts.
Buttermilk Bob is no more? Dang it Gamza
...
GW bungled this so hard. They didn't even do a final MTO for iconic models, just nope, gone instantly.
The newer Tzeentch Bird-person design is almost a Final Fantasy summon…..
maybe im just getting old, but the new shit just doesnt hit
I said this on the Twitter post, I'm sad the Dima is gone cause that was one of the models that got me into tyranids. Im glad I got one but looks like ill have to kitbash some
I had a GW employee explain the Choas gods like this...Slaanesh is the one all the other fear. When their devout worship in excess they are also giving Slaanesh power as well.
They all feed each other. Based on the old Liber Chaotica books, the CGs are too large to be singular entities, they're more like storms in the warp around core concepts, so they all overlap and bleed into each other.
Thank the gods of chaos for 3d printing
3D Printer go brrrrrr
3DPrinter: "It's free real estate!"
GW doing an amazing job with FOMO.
Almost all models in Forge sold-out in less than 2 hours.
Good job GW, Good Job.
Tzeentch - Excess Shenanigans
I acquired the old bloodthirster from someone and I love it. It is big beefy and has a massive presence on the table. He makes the new bloodthirsters look small. Luckily the person who owned this guys before me magnetized the weapons because otherwise I would have broke the whip like 10 times.
No I don’t think I will, spammala
"I spent sooo much time staring at their crotches"
EOB - 2023
GW: Execute order 66
The necron tombstalker, acanthrites, and tomb sentinel all need a plastic kit. They would all sell pretty well and are cool kits that add to the canoptek part of the necron army.
Redemptors are not replacements for the Boxnaught! I refuse. Redemptors are too sleek, smooth, and refined. Boxnaughts are big, chunky, brutal necessity.
But hey, that means new malanthrope and demachearon (or however you spell it)
or not 🤷🏻♂️
@@markhanson9508😐
That doesn't mean it at all.
No it doesn’t, don’t get your hopes up!
23:49 I always thought this Nid-guy had no balance to it, it looks like it should just fall flat on it's face. Nids are my new favourite as well (since the updated Gaunts, they're gorgeous and have been waiting for them for a lonnnnng-ass time) but I always thought the Dimmy looked weird in it's default pose. I've seen reworked versions that are great though, you just need to reposition the legs a bit.
I agree with some of Jay's arguments... But I see a trend lately with his videos. It's like it's profitable to throw sh!t at GW, which obviously is the company that makes the game most of us love, possible... It's not that we cannot make criticism, but sometimes it looks like they didn't do anything good...
I feel like with a stalactite (Stelacmite?) base for the GW bloodthirster would make him look better. Him jumping out of a bit of fire in an open field seems lame. Make him jumping out of fire in a spiked rock base and have some OSL coming from the fire and he’d look much better.
I’m just sick they’re getting rid of the FW great unclean one. He’s so much better than the plastic one. I’ll have to hunt for an eBay one now. I’m sure that’ll be ridiculously expensive.
to be fair the Damocles Command Vehicle is getting an upgrade sprue for the Rhino, so that yo9u can make it with the upgrade sprue and a Rhino. :)
will not be gitting it as i have just gotten home the old Command vehicle box with a Command rhino and Landraider. :D
This was in the process for years. Nobody should be surprised by 20+ year old models being discontinued.
Thank the gods for 3D printing. I really don't understand why GW doesn't just sell STLs of models they discontinue.
Jay, this is a win. This just means that the buttermilk Bob's can't complain about people buying recast. China cast is almost always better quality than Forge world anyway
This killed the hobby for me. i have a large FW collection that hasnt been good since before 8th frankly. GW telling me how to play, they can stick it, i will play other games. OPR maybe.
Warhammer is a drug and GW is the dealer. I actually have a friend who worked for them and he said that's how he felt after working for them. We spend 1000's of dollars on little plastic army men and suffer mental anguish when they pull this crap. And they carry on happily while kids and adults get ripped off.
I like the kits they’re phasing out more because it *feels* more 30/40k where they look like rugged super soldiers. The new kits feel more “generic space fantasy” to me. More than the marines though, seeing the loss of that “economic manufacturing design” to Imperial Guard vehicles and armor makes it feel like something different to me.
I get that new manufacturing allows for more detail but this is more than that, there has been an art style change that feels more generic.
khorne is the god of violence. nurgle of rot. tzeetch of trickery. slaanesh of excess, all excess, pleasure pain, violence, gluttony everything
Was gonna dump on you for bieng negative towards the hobby that makes your channel possable, but i was happily surprized. Just a good run through of old models that are leaving with a good opinion on the choices. Bravo dood
Why am I the only person who’s really sad and upset. I bought some of these models in 9th edition… in new updated boxes. I think it’s kinda evil to charge the prices they did and discontinue it on people like me. I’m really sad, I lost a lot of money on game pieces.
8:35 that's a chimp in power armour not Gabriel Angelos lmao. If I collected blood ravens I still wouldn't buy that, it looks stupid lol.
I’m certain sternguard will. Get the Bladeguard treatment. You will pay £40 for 3…
Ah well, good thing China has us covered as far as a Forgeworld - or Games Wokshop - back catalogue is concerned.
No words for my troggoth hag my colossal and my rogue idol! This is wrong Jay RIPmy fellow desturction monsters
18:26 what is awesome about this slaanesh guy is that the BDSM/armour bits appear to be coming from under the skin, and skin has been torn away by the armour.
i feel no sadness over the forge world greater daemons leaving, cos they are SOOOOOOO much worse looking then the plastic kits, they look awfull to me
Forge World in general just needs to die off and take it’s overpriced resin models with it, replace them with plastic models already.
I'm a Tyranid player, but I never liked the Dimachareon. It's like a very hasty kitbash.
I just picked up a vulture gunship from forge world and it was so overprice and not worth it. Just spend that cash on 3d printed stuff.
A bit of a kick in the teeth with the FW Last chance to buy, was sold out weeks ago. So didn't even have a chance to have a Last chance to buy.....