Ange will be gone when we lose to Liverpool and Villa. Mason will be interim manager until end of the year and save us from relegation by playing more conservatively. We’ll bring in a new manager in the summer but it won’t work out with him either because Levy will never really back any manager. And the cycle will begin again.
@JacobØxnebjergJørgensen-t9w Buying a number of young players unproven at PL level and just one established player (with just one good season behind him) is not backing Ange.
I was just thinking of this the other day the possibility of the Spurs being regulated , I look at the job Nuno is doing the system that Spurs fans screamed about but the reality is Nuno has found a system that works with the talent he has but what Nuno does differently as with any decent Premier League Manger is adapt their systems depending on the club and game , but Ange refuses to do this, the other issue the more this team falls closer to regulation how many of their top players will want to stay with the team , the other issue is the young players they have are still learning to play in this league , instead of moving forward the Spurs have moved backwards, could you imagine the Spurs playing in the Championship League next season how devastating that would be, Ange has the backing of the board but if he cannot pull this team out of regulation and they continue to loose then Ange needs to be replaced,
Ange has to set up new tactic to fit players..like Geaham potter did. Westham playing was totally different. N all england team including tamworth..knew ange only 1 tactic..how to counter act..they have watched 1.5year already..even Me..already memorized
The prob with sacking Ange now is where do we go? We can’t have Mason in charge but I just think the problem isn’t just injuries, Ange is now making excuses and I really think he’s too arrogant to adapt to play with what he has available
@bb5979 all I will say is Brighton, palace and Ipswich. Second half of last season. Only game we didn't invert was the win over Liverpool in the cup = clean sheet. Ange is his own worst enermy. Want him to turn it around but just cannot see it happening.
I am sorry but Ange really needs to reassess his tactics. The way we press didn't work on them. Also when are we going to stop using inverted fullbacks??? I am so sick of seeing our wingers on the sideline. It just baffles me that Son usually score goals by himself and with no ones help. Freaking pass the ball to him so he can finish. I really hope Odebert comes back soon because I get frustated watching Johnson play. We really need to work on our passing skills..
spurs fans don’t owe this manager anything. He has actually done nothing really to endear himself to spurs fans. All you have with this guy is, in the typical fashion of a cult, a certain number of people who are drunk on his kool aid. Well imo at least these people aren’t paying close enough attention. This manager took it upon himself to vilify spurs fans and then double down on the same point after the city game last season. A small number of spurs fans that day celebrated their team not getting a result in a tongue in cheek manner because of the implications on Arsenal. Ange in the subsequent press conferences after that game made a point of saying how that was “the worst experience of his managerial career”. He also made these unnecessary and weird innuendo filled comments about “the foundations of the club being very fragile” because some Tottenham fans and perhaps even employees allegedly made jokes about losing but it’s ok if it hurts arsenal. Obviously it was always a joke. He turned himself as he loves to do into the headline again and crafted this narrative that Tottenham are a weak club with a weak mentality and weak fans. The fallout from his comments was everybody criticising Tottenham supporters and the club at large. Apparently Ange is the only person in the building that “wants to win”. What a travesty. What a load of complete and utter bollocks. He made these comments after he was literally four losses on the trot….. never forget. Also let’s not forget that spurs fans sang this guy’s name after the 4-1 home loss to Chelsea last season. What other manager is afforded such good grace after a pasting in a derby????? We’ve seen this manager have confrontations with spurs fans who have heckled him now on more than one occasion also. Most football managers at this level would never interact with these things - frustrated fans with a few choice words after a poor result . Not this guy. He’s rattled by anyone questioning him in any fashion whatsoever. This manager has now played 7 north London derbys against Arsenal and Chelsea. Hes drawn one and lost six….. What exactly do spurs fans owe this manager at this point. He has the team now in 13th or 14th position in the league. He full 180 degrees contradicts everything he said last week on a week to week basis and says rubbish like I’d rather entertain than do everything I can to earn competition points. He’s even now managed to make himself public enemy number one amongst the journalist community. Unbelievable. And yet you’ve still got people that say he’s great, give him time and he plays attacking football. Which he doesn’t do anyway because his team can’t put three passes together half the time.
(Hot Take): in the beginning I didn't even mind the occasional loss, because at least we played good football. I don't even like the way we play anymore, we can't even keep possession of the ball against Tamworth. Lets be serious, the manager has no plan B, his tactics were found out and he was just hoping that our big players would bail him out with their performances. The only reason we're still in cups isn't because of the football we play, it's pure luck. Use the eye test and see for yourself.
I agree the football is no longer good. I personally think its due to injuries. The team is too slow in transition when winning the ball (except for in big matches) and the current blokes cant get the ball past half way. Against Tamworth it was gray to Moore to gray. Any time Dragusin got it he gave it to Gray. Before the injuries the league position was only that bad due to individual errors. Once Romero and VDV are back there are no excuses left.
Ange hasn't improved any of the players apart from Spence and Kulu. He is tactically inept and isn't good enough. The stats are horrific yet people still accept it 😮
Ange didn't improve Spence, he was good as soon as he was given a chance. Kulu hasn't been playing well in a while and it's mainly because he doesn't get enough rest.
It's no accident that two of our youngest players who played relatively little earlier in the year remain bright, while everyone else seem burnt out especially the older players. This is what happens with constant nonstop pressing even when we are ahead by multiple goals, all the while playing two fixtures per week.
Forget the discussion about Ange ball. We’re not even there yet. My issue with Ange is that he’s not clever. There’s a reason they’re called the manager, not coach. He hasn’t managed the games well this season especially player rotation.
Ben and Sim representing the two sides of being a fan. Sim is the hopeful child, loyal to the badge and the dream. Ben is the old man, worn and tired, battered by years of disappointment. There is merit in both positions, Ange is potentially a legend in the mould of Ossie Ardiles and potentially an unheralded footnote in our history. I'm hopeful, like sim, Im tired, like Ben, but i love my club, both through good and bad. COYS
Ange's last 27 Prem games (to include the end of last season too): won 9, drawn 2, lost 16. That's 29 pts from a possible 81! He is provenly clueless as a Prem manager. We'll soon have to get someone in to ensure we aren't relegated but nothing much will improve until Levy changes his wage structure and invests heavily in the team... which he won't.
If we don’t get a result at Everton Ange needs to go. I have wanted to support Ange but even with the injuries we should be putting in better performances across the team. I think he is losing the dressing room and they’re not taking him seriously anymore. We are closer to relegation than Europe. Also who the hell would want to come to us where we are sitting in the league and living on a hope and a prayer to win a cup to qualify for Europe? We need top quality players and we will be lucky to just get above average squad players
I used to want the teams towards the top of the table to lose to the teams at the bottom to help spurs. Now I want the opposite results, again to help spurs . That says it all.
Why is nobody talking about the impact that the way we play has on the players? Surely, away at Arsenal you don't encourage them by messing about with the ball at the back in the first 10-20 minutes? It is crushing the players' confidence. We are playing make it up as you go along football with no patterns of play beyond passing backwards. Enough is enough, 12 months of terrible form, he needs to go.
the first 15 minutes was almost as bad as that Versus Galatasary when we could have conceded 6 or more. Same pattern of play which allowed them to press us back into the last third. It is so dangerous. Bergvall was unlucky with the hand ball v Newcastle BUT he almost did the very same thing last night.
I’m glad you are noticing the looming danger of being dragged into a relegation battle all because we are so much blinded by this obsession to win a trophy. Ange always wins a trophy in his second season total stupidity this is the EPL wake up trophies don’t come by dreaming you got to work very hard for it.
Sorry but , what actual , genuine Football experience ( playing or otherwise ) does Sim have , as he's constant rebuttal to common sense fact's given by Ben , is tedious as f now. Blindly coming back with Nonsense , most times , show's an ego driven persona , who other than filling Levy & co's coffers , and Kissing Ange's ass , care's not a jot about THFC : Standard's , Ambition....The Guy is happy to follow Spurs home / away , have one of the WORST managers in Our history , be 13th in PL , Humiliated 6-3 at home , nearly Lose to Tamworth , 11 losses already , Laughing Stock we are....Yet , he cares not. It's all about him being right on Ange.....Interesting. Very !!
Einstein said the definition of insanity is “…doing the SAME thing over and over again and excepting a different result”. Why are we expecting to start winning when the SAME players are playing the SAME system and making the SAME mistakes.
Einstein was a solo genius, this is a team sport- even his law of relativity was incorrect at the start before he realised his mistake. This is Ange next move
Injuries...the clappers last season said we would improve when the injured players came back - we were worse. Postecoglu is sussed out - EVERY manager has his number.
We are Not being sucked we are in a relegation battle we cannot win a game, it’s amazing how everyone was happy with ange when we got him are no turning, you can’t take managers from Scotland and expect success, I’m pretty sure Ben was happy with his appointment at the time
"Very stackable form, but i wouldn't sack him, thats stackable form, bo two ways about it" Like, seriously? Do you listen to yourself when you say that? HE HAS TO GO.
I don't understand certain fans who are supporting the club, they can clearly see that the stats under the manager are absolutely disgusting, but they don't want him sacked. He's running players into the ground, he's not looking to change his tactics and be defensive sometimes in games, the club is heading towards the bottom four instead of the top four. What's it going to take for fans to wake up, he won't win a trophy playing the way he does, so it's just prolonging the inevitable.
Ange , is Kulu good for the winger? I retired Iwatch most of game, is any winger play like johnson? is Poro shooter? too many to ask U. Ange try Yang min h
Because the fans are a bunch of clowns who love mediocrity on the pitch just like Levy, the only difference is Levy's taking all there money and laughing at them.
@@paulbacon5056you are the first toxic to go down I hope. Out of nowhere you try to attack other fans, whoever doesn’t share the same view as you are toxic I presume , shut it and don’t come back.
The stark reality is we are going backwards under ange. Relegation is a real worry the form we are in. He has had a year and a half to make his system work and clearly it doesnt. Teams have figured us out and realise we are easy to play against. We sacked nuno and conte and they are flying at their new clubs. The common denominator in all this is levy no manager will succeed under him due to lack of quality onfield investment.
Sim is levy out mate. He's ange in. But he's levy out If you're going to criticise it's worth knowing what you're actually saying. These guys are my therapy although they're annoying sometimes with their opinions I'll defend them.
Get your heads together.... LEVY isn't perfect but believe me be careful what you wish for... We have a manager who ain't got a clue... He is like a dear in head lights... Excuse after excuse n if we continue to keep him we could get relegated... It's a joke and I'm tired of hearing the same narrative... Really is this what my beloved club Tottenham have come to... Winning a trophy annit gonna change nothing... Be nice but Ange isn't a good manager... A nice bloke maybe but come on this is the worst appointment ever... Along with Christian gross and gerry Francis....
Fair enough mate, entitled to feel that way. Nuno, Conte and Mourinho all doing well after leaving the club. My personal opinion is that Ange will be the 4th name on that list.
@@tomkinsrhino2193 Who do you think you are? What have you accomplished in life that allows you to have such boldness in saying a professional football manager who has won 20+ trophies sucks? Have you even won a junior league? It's incredible what the Internet has revealed in young men. Achieved absolutely nothing in life, yet think they are qualified to be critical of successful men. Pathetic.
I'm surprised that Ange is still there but then I consider the potential loss of far east revenue if Levy sacks him. If we go out of the cups he's gone.
I honestly think he's hear because of the massive fan base he brings from Australia. It's exactly what Levy would do to replace the fans that Son has attracted when he leaves. The only reason I can see for keeping a manager with the worst record in our history.
@robertbrown2299 I'd say you're overstating the massive fan base from Australia. It's a small country as is and there's a lot here that don't give two fks about football. Even with the fans he has here It would not figure into the financials in any real sense I can guarantee it .
The "we were heading to 13th if it weren't for Kans and Son" comment is too real. This rebuild is hitting the hardest in 100 years because we moved on a talented old guard, lost our best-ever player/goal scorer, and are stuck with a mix of talented youth and mediocre past signings who are either injured or playing out position in a highly offensive system. It's the perfect storm...just got to hope we can sail through it to the other side.
It gets to a point where you cant just blame injuries. Some of these players didnt look up for it yesterday which means that they just dont care about the league anymore. If we dont win the carabao cup hes gone
Coaching involves a lot of different aspects and the aim is to produce a winning team. Ange is failing undeniably. If players don’t look like they are up for it, it’s the coach’s fault.
Can we all behave!! We are in a very bad place. Team is struggling this is not the time to implode.We are not getting relegated. At least wait until we get over the injury crisis
We got rid of better coaches when we had way better results, can't understand why Ange is still here, Ange ball will never work in England, not even in the Championship, get Ange out first and try to salvage what's left of the season, Ange the worst coach ever 🤔, clueless, no tactics, and keeps guessing, no plan whatsoever
Rodrigo is not a 6 and he never plays well there, he's worse than biss. The only issue biss likes making alot of mistakes. What we need now is a natural 6. Biss and Rodrigo should be sold
Spurs are in a relegation battle this season, like it or not😢 The team has lost 11 games, same as Ipswich??? Anyone who thinks it's not relegation standards,have a rethink. The premiership is past halfway, Levy and crew are not doing anything to change the situation. Can't believe Levy is reportedly one of the decent chairmen in football? Makes no sense.
I'm trying to figure out what the psychology of the under-performing 1st team is... maybe the stadioum & training ground is so good the players become complacent???
I think mikey moore can even play better than Brennan Johnson and Maddison if we provide him proper chances like they have. We need to ask to leader " alot of why" to improve and change.
TIME TRAVELER HERE: Spurs, ManU and Man City are currently fighting for the trophy. The Championship trophy. Time to finally bring home some silverware.
Haha delusion by some of Spurs fans is joke,... Richarlison was one of the hottest prospects in EPL when you signed him. I remember Spurs fans labeling him the next R9. So stop talking rubbish
We were never going to get that forward from PSG its all a farse they are waiting for our injury players to come back and if we do buy someone it will be a cheap nobody...I've never said get rid of Ange but now I've changed my mind i will also wave a wond and get rid of levi to😢
Sacking Ange won't fix this, he's the right man for the job. Tottenham lack squad depth and it's being exposed this season with all the extra cup games being played. Injuries are making it worse too. Improve the squad and the results will come. Fans need to back Ange.
Would not matter what set of players you have, Ange won't work out this level!!! Maureen and Conte were bad fits for the club and players we had, but Sunday league Ange is so far of it, it's becoming humiliating. Sim you just make excuse after excuse up, a bit like Ange. You fail to see whats right in front of you, just like Ange. You refuse to confront reality and make changes just like Ange.... Bad managers destroy confidence and fail to react, well Ange is a bad manager on steroids. Scott Munn needs to take the Aussie league cohort and leave now.
I’m sorry ange has to go if we lose to Everton away we can’t carry on like this it’s getting silly he’s failing only reason why he’s getting away with it is because we are playing more attacking football it’s crazy how we sacked harry how we sacked AVB and poch for getting us top 4 and 5th to now we sit 14th and I can’t see us getting a win and it’s not about getting 1 win we need a run of 5 to 6 wins back to back now and I can’t see that
@TheRealist2024 I've noticed quite a bit gone missing few times this season run into the ground like solanki and few other. My point was player's should not be calling out the board if they want to go to levy and speak to home brilliant good luck with that Ange is gone for me I don't have any confidence in him.
Oh now you wanna have that relugation conversation, been saying this since December. Sacking Ange in February is bonkers. He should have gone in December.
Archie Gray is our long term "monster" 6 - not Bergval who is an 8/10. We do need to bolster the squad right now, but at CB and CF. We shouldn't spend on big on a midfielder who will block the progress of our great young 'uns.
Archie Gray could be a great option as a 6, with this defensive experience. When vdv and Romero back, he would be a really good option to have in front of them with bergvhall and kulu in the 8 and 10. Just need a solid right winger ahead of Johnson.
Sorry but your laughing about the goalie doing a back heel in our box. ‘He’s got balls of steel’ is that acceptable to you? No top manager wants there keeper doing shit like this. He was a liability yesterday. Could have cost us numerous goals. And that’s acceptable from our manager. That is what our manager has lead our players to believe it’s acceptable. It was Forster doing that last month. But it’s acceptable. And Ange culture of acceptableness is rubbing off on to players and fans. That’s why we are where we are, forget about injuries we’ve lost stupid games and played shit with our full team out.
The goal difference is the problem. There's no game or fixture management, just go all out to score as many as possible. Then the players are useless the next game. Villa for instance have a negative goal difference. Generally go a goal up and conserve energy. Doesn't always work but theres far fewer injuries and the players are fresh.
Conte : These players hate to play under pressure
Ange will be gone when we lose to Liverpool and Villa. Mason will be interim manager until end of the year and save us from relegation by playing more conservatively. We’ll bring in a new manager in the summer but it won’t work out with him either because Levy will never really back any manager. And the cycle will begin again.
Edin terzic wants the Tottenham job
Ange has been backed Levy has been using alot more money for him then with other managers
@JacobØxnebjergJørgensen-t9w Buying a number of young players unproven at PL level and just one established player (with just one good season behind him) is not backing Ange.
@ players Ange wanted 😳 and where is the issue with the sporting director Lange and Paraticci
I was just thinking of this the other day the possibility of the Spurs being regulated , I look at the job Nuno is doing the system that Spurs fans screamed about but the reality is Nuno has found a system that works with the talent he has but what Nuno does differently as with any decent Premier League Manger is adapt their systems depending on the club and game , but Ange refuses to do this, the other issue the more this team falls closer to regulation how many of their top players will want to stay with the team , the other issue is the young players they have are still learning to play in this league , instead of moving forward the Spurs have moved backwards, could you imagine the Spurs playing in the Championship League next season how devastating that would be, Ange has the backing of the board but if he cannot pull this team out of regulation and they continue to loose then Ange needs to be replaced,
Kulu and Johnson were shocking yesterday. Both cannot perform away from home. Son as well, they cannot hold possession. It happens continuously.
It’s shocking how poor our best players are currently playing.
Kulu can play away he did it tons at the beginning of the season. He has just been run to the ground recently
@mayapage2707kulu has been inconsistent since he got here
Ange has to set up new tactic to fit players..like Geaham potter did. Westham playing was totally different.
N all england team including tamworth..knew ange only 1 tactic..how to counter act..they have watched 1.5year already..even Me..already memorized
When vdv and Romero come back I can see gray playing cdm, he’s got the tactical awareness, passing, tackling and concentration to put biss to shame
He will. And I'm all here for it and can't wait
Biss needs to learn he is still good
SPOT ON. hopefully the last we see of biss
I’ll be surprised if we get many more games out of Romero he will be off in the summer
The prob with sacking Ange now is where do we go? We can’t have Mason in charge but I just think the problem isn’t just injuries, Ange is now making excuses and I really think he’s too arrogant to adapt to play with what he has available
The inverted full backs is killing us. Its not even providing much from an attacking sense.
No the injuries are killing us. That was a great defensive performance, only conceded one goal will game fairly.
@@bb5979everyone has injuries, why are we special
@bb5979 all I will say is Brighton, palace and Ipswich. Second half of last season. Only game we didn't invert was the win over Liverpool in the cup = clean sheet. Ange is his own worst enermy. Want him to turn it around but just cannot see it happening.
@@Luke-nm3my exactly, adapt your formation and tactics to the players at your disposal
Don't be daft, spurs injuries are far more significant than any other team.@@Luke-nm3my
I am sorry but Ange really needs to reassess his tactics. The way we press didn't work on them. Also when are we going to stop using inverted fullbacks??? I am so sick of seeing our wingers on the sideline. It just baffles me that Son usually score goals by himself and with no ones help. Freaking pass the ball to him so he can finish. I really hope Odebert comes back soon because I get frustated watching Johnson play. We really need to work on our passing skills..
spurs fans don’t owe this manager anything. He has actually done nothing really to endear himself to spurs fans. All you have with this guy is, in the typical fashion of a cult, a certain number of people who are drunk on his kool aid. Well imo at least these people aren’t paying close enough attention.
This manager took it upon himself to vilify spurs fans and then double down on the same point after the city game last season. A small number of spurs fans that day celebrated their team not getting a result in a tongue in cheek manner because of the implications on Arsenal. Ange in the subsequent press conferences after that game made a point of saying how that was “the worst experience of his managerial career”. He also made these unnecessary and weird innuendo filled comments about “the foundations of the club being very fragile” because some Tottenham fans and perhaps even employees allegedly made jokes about losing but it’s ok if it hurts arsenal. Obviously it was always a joke.
He turned himself as he loves to do into the headline again and crafted this narrative that Tottenham are a weak club with a weak mentality and weak fans. The fallout from his comments was everybody criticising Tottenham supporters and the club at large. Apparently Ange is the only person in the building that “wants to win”. What a travesty. What a load of complete and utter bollocks. He made these comments after he was literally four losses on the trot….. never forget. Also let’s not forget that spurs fans sang this guy’s name after the 4-1 home loss to Chelsea last season. What other manager is afforded such good grace after a pasting in a derby?????
We’ve seen this manager have confrontations with spurs fans who have heckled him now on more than one occasion also. Most football managers at this level would never interact with these things - frustrated fans with a few choice words after a poor result . Not this guy. He’s rattled by anyone questioning him in any fashion whatsoever.
This manager has now played 7 north London derbys against Arsenal and Chelsea. Hes drawn one and lost six…..
What exactly do spurs fans owe this manager at this point. He has the team now in 13th or 14th position in the league. He full 180 degrees contradicts everything he said last week on a week to week basis and says rubbish like I’d rather entertain than do everything I can to earn competition points. He’s even now managed to make himself public enemy number one amongst the journalist community. Unbelievable.
And yet you’ve still got people that say he’s great, give him time and he plays attacking football. Which he doesn’t do anyway because his team can’t put three passes together half the time.
Fascinating (i didnt bother reading)
(Hot Take): in the beginning I didn't even mind the occasional loss, because at least we played good football. I don't even like the way we play anymore, we can't even keep possession of the ball against Tamworth. Lets be serious, the manager has no plan B, his tactics were found out and he was just hoping that our big players would bail him out with their performances. The only reason we're still in cups isn't because of the football we play, it's pure luck. Use the eye test and see for yourself.
I agree the football is no longer good. I personally think its due to injuries. The team is too slow in transition when winning the ball (except for in big matches) and the current blokes cant get the ball past half way. Against Tamworth it was gray to Moore to gray. Any time Dragusin got it he gave it to Gray. Before the injuries the league position was only that bad due to individual errors. Once Romero and VDV are back there are no excuses left.
Ange hasn't improved any of the players apart from Spence and Kulu. He is tactically inept and isn't good enough. The stats are horrific yet people still accept it 😮
Ange didn't improve Spence, he was good as soon as he was given a chance. Kulu hasn't been playing well in a while and it's mainly because he doesn't get enough rest.
They are all improving rapidly. But they need help. Sold 11 players bought 4. Squad too thin
@@davidcrowden9403wtf are you talking about. Almost everyone has got worse under ange. Hence why we as a whole are worse
@davidcrowden9403 yeah, the help they need is a clued up coach. Man's a megafraud
@ Squad wasn't thin. It's Ange's tactics that's butchering hamstring after hamstring.
WE’RE NOW 14th!! Level pts with Palace in 15th.
It's no accident that two of our youngest players who played relatively little earlier in the year remain bright, while everyone else seem burnt out especially the older players. This is what happens with constant nonstop pressing even when we are ahead by multiple goals, all the while playing two fixtures per week.
Forget the discussion about Ange ball. We’re not even there yet. My issue with Ange is that he’s not clever. There’s a reason they’re called the manager, not coach. He hasn’t managed the games well this season especially player rotation.
Ben and Sim representing the two sides of being a fan. Sim is the hopeful child, loyal to the badge and the dream. Ben is the old man, worn and tired, battered by years of disappointment. There is merit in both positions, Ange is potentially a legend in the mould of Ossie Ardiles and potentially an unheralded footnote in our history. I'm hopeful, like sim, Im tired, like Ben, but i love my club, both through good and bad. COYS
So well said. I hate how these days people abuse everyone who doesn't agree with there position as if the world is black and white.
Ange's last 27 Prem games (to include the end of last season too): won 9, drawn 2, lost 16. That's 29 pts from a possible 81! He is provenly clueless as a Prem manager. We'll soon have to get someone in to ensure we aren't relegated but nothing much will improve until Levy changes his wage structure and invests heavily in the team... which he won't.
If we don’t get a result at Everton Ange needs to go. I have wanted to support Ange but even with the injuries we should be putting in better performances across the team. I think he is losing the dressing room and they’re not taking him seriously anymore. We are closer to relegation than Europe. Also who the hell would want to come to us where we are sitting in the league and living on a hope and a prayer to win a cup to qualify for Europe? We need top quality players and we will be lucky to just get above average squad players
I used to want the teams towards the top of the table to lose to the teams at the bottom to help spurs. Now I want the opposite results, again to help spurs . That says it all.
Why is nobody talking about the impact that the way we play has on the players? Surely, away at Arsenal you don't encourage them by messing about with the ball at the back in the first 10-20 minutes? It is crushing the players' confidence. We are playing make it up as you go along football with no patterns of play beyond passing backwards. Enough is enough, 12 months of terrible form, he needs to go.
the first 15 minutes was almost as bad as that Versus Galatasary when we could have conceded 6 or more. Same pattern of play which allowed them to press us back into the last third. It is so dangerous. Bergvall was unlucky with the hand ball v Newcastle BUT he almost did the very same thing last night.
I’m glad you are noticing the looming danger of being dragged into a relegation battle all because we are so much blinded by this obsession to win a trophy. Ange always wins a trophy in his second season total stupidity this is the EPL wake up trophies don’t come by dreaming you got to work very hard for it.
Sorry but , what actual , genuine Football experience ( playing or otherwise ) does Sim have , as he's constant rebuttal to common sense fact's given by Ben , is tedious as f now. Blindly coming back with Nonsense , most times , show's an ego driven persona , who other than filling Levy & co's coffers , and Kissing Ange's ass , care's not a jot about THFC : Standard's , Ambition....The Guy is happy to follow Spurs home / away , have one of the WORST managers in Our history , be 13th in PL , Humiliated 6-3 at home , nearly Lose to Tamworth , 11 losses already , Laughing Stock we are....Yet , he cares not. It's all about him being right on Ange.....Interesting. Very !!
100 percent agree 👍
Einstein said the definition of insanity is “…doing the SAME thing over and over again and excepting a different result”.
Why are we expecting to start winning when the SAME players are playing the SAME system and making the SAME mistakes.
Exactly. Same management same players, same decisions. Same greek sailor
What?, like sacking managers?
Einstein didn't say that but go on...
Einstein was a solo genius, this is a team sport- even his law of relativity was incorrect at the start before he realised his mistake. This is Ange next move
Liverpool and Man U and Man C and Villa, not RESULTS?
Kulu Romero VDV and Porro will want out this summer.. probably Udogie as well
Bergvall and Gray won't be far behind.
Injuries...the clappers last season said we would improve when the injured players came back - we were worse. Postecoglu is sussed out - EVERY manager has his number.
Ange out!!
since last season
You're correct. Should have heeded the warning signs.
We absolutely collapsed at the end of last season
14th place and look at the teams below us. Ange in is a JOKE.
Spurs are a joke 😂
We are Not being sucked we are in a relegation battle we cannot win a game, it’s amazing how everyone was happy with ange when we got him are no turning, you can’t take managers from Scotland and expect success, I’m pretty sure Ben was happy with his appointment at the time
Watching Man United v Southampton and both teams (but particularly Southampton) already have a better shape and system than we do.
A relegation battle could be the blessing in disguise 🤔
What if Levy panic sells before we are in the championship?? 🙏🏼
He could you know .. that wouldn’t surprise me
The worst results since the 90s. Greek sailor is a FRAUD. No matter who we play he plays the same way.
"Very stackable form, but i wouldn't sack him, thats stackable form, bo two ways about it"
Like, seriously? Do you listen to yourself when you say that?
HE HAS TO GO.
I don't understand certain fans who are supporting the club, they can clearly see that the stats under the manager are absolutely disgusting, but they don't want him sacked. He's running players into the ground, he's not looking to change his tactics and be defensive sometimes in games, the club is heading towards the bottom four instead of the top four. What's it going to take for fans to wake up, he won't win a trophy playing the way he does, so it's just prolonging the inevitable.
I wonder how long it takes before the board finally sack him. 5 points from a possible 27 is unacceptable.
Ange , is Kulu good for the winger? I retired Iwatch most of game, is any winger play like johnson? is Poro shooter? too many to ask U. Ange try Yang min h
Don't be negative Ben, you're only 14 pts off top 4!!!
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Time to press eject button on Ange, but we are not 'there yet' says crazy man on the left of this Vid.
No manager is going to produce with this penny pinched list of players
@@jamesalexander1647of course they can 😂😂 our starting 11 is still good
Why is levy feeling no heat from supporters on match days? Says it all, he does what he wants.
Because the fans are a bunch of clowns who love mediocrity on the pitch just like Levy, the only difference is Levy's taking all there money and laughing at them.
Calm down guys. We're going down.
Might get rid of a few toxic fans.
@@paulbacon5056you are the first toxic to go down I hope. Out of nowhere you try to attack other fans, whoever doesn’t share the same view as you are toxic I presume , shut it and don’t come back.
The stark reality is we are going backwards under ange. Relegation is a real worry the form we are in. He has had a year and a half to make his system work and clearly it doesnt. Teams have figured us out and realise we are easy to play against. We sacked nuno and conte and they are flying at their new clubs. The common denominator in all this is levy no manager will succeed under him due to lack of quality onfield investment.
You can’t say anything about daddy levy otherwise sim will start crying
Sim is levy out mate. He's ange in. But he's levy out
If you're going to criticise it's worth knowing what you're actually saying. These guys are my therapy although they're annoying sometimes with their opinions I'll defend them.
We only sign a goal keeper this transfer......case closed.
Get your heads together.... LEVY isn't perfect but believe me be careful what you wish for... We have a manager who ain't got a clue... He is like a dear in head lights... Excuse after excuse n if we continue to keep him we could get relegated... It's a joke and I'm tired of hearing the same narrative... Really is this what my beloved club Tottenham have come to... Winning a trophy annit gonna change nothing... Be nice but Ange isn't a good manager... A nice bloke maybe but come on this is the worst appointment ever... Along with Christian gross and gerry Francis....
Fair enough mate, entitled to feel that way.
Nuno, Conte and Mourinho all doing well after leaving the club.
My personal opinion is that Ange will be the 4th name on that list.
With the all coaches we’ve gone through what has levy done for Tottenham in recent years that his job shouldn’t be in question
@@liamconlan5015 None of managers you named have sucked as much as Ange. Not even Nuno incredibly.
@@tomkinsrhino2193 Who do you think you are? What have you accomplished in life that allows you to have such boldness in saying a professional football manager who has won 20+ trophies sucks? Have you even won a junior league?
It's incredible what the Internet has revealed in young men. Achieved absolutely nothing in life, yet think they are qualified to be critical of successful men.
Pathetic.
😂 had success everywhere else, just like conte, Mourinho and now nuno but Ange is the problem… is this Simon Jordan’s burner account?
Ange should play the new Yang Min Suk - Koreans are really "nippy" fast players - very entertaining!!!
Before the Arsenal game! You’d think Spurs were such a great team 😂
They are shite and will always be
I'm surprised that Ange is still there but then I consider the potential loss of far east revenue if Levy sacks him. If we go out of the cups he's gone.
I honestly think he's hear because of the massive fan base he brings from Australia. It's exactly what Levy would do to replace the fans that Son has attracted when he leaves. The only reason I can see for keeping a manager with the worst record in our history.
@robertbrown2299 if we don't get European football next season he'll be gone.
@robertbrown2299 I'd say you're overstating the massive fan base from Australia. It's a small country as is and there's a lot here that don't give two fks about football. Even with the fans he has here It would not figure into the financials in any real sense I can guarantee it .
This channel is in a relegation battle.
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Sim is getting more delusional by the hour. Even after more defeats, the time will not have arrived for a 'conversation' about Ange.
sim the delulu xD
Ange has to go now!!
Always one
Nope
The "we were heading to 13th if it weren't for Kans and Son" comment is too real. This rebuild is hitting the hardest in 100 years because we moved on a talented old guard, lost our best-ever player/goal scorer, and are stuck with a mix of talented youth and mediocre past signings who are either injured or playing out position in a highly offensive system. It's the perfect storm...just got to hope we can sail through it to the other side.
I get the impression Kulu has been a great mentor to Bergvall.
It gets to a point where you cant just blame injuries. Some of these players didnt look up for it yesterday which means that they just dont care about the league anymore. If we dont win the carabao cup hes gone
You are absolutely right.
Southampton already have a better shape than us. It's the system and coaching.
Coaching involves a lot of different aspects and the aim is to produce a winning team. Ange is failing undeniably. If players don’t look like they are up for it, it’s the coach’s fault.
@@Mark-pz9xwthat worked out well for them at man u ay?
Finally, after 38yrs of support. At 50, we received a Relegation invitation. All thanks to the Mgr. G'dY Mate!
Can we all behave!! We are in a very bad place. Team is struggling this is not the time to implode.We are not getting relegated. At least wait until we get over the injury crisis
We got rid of better coaches when we had way better results, can't understand why Ange is still here, Ange ball will never work in England, not even in the Championship, get Ange out first and try to salvage what's left of the season, Ange the worst coach ever 🤔, clueless, no tactics, and keeps guessing, no plan whatsoever
Relegation will do us good!
Can any Spurs fan imagine Arsenal with this record? The fans, press, rival fans, etc will be having a field day on Arteta!
Get relegated but win a cup...Is that a good season ????
To a spurs fan yes no trophy in 16 years 😂😂
The definition of Spursy
@@robgraham1204Who had a better season in 23/24, Arsenal or Manchester United?
Rodrigo is not a 6 and he never plays well there, he's worse than biss. The only issue biss likes making alot of mistakes. What we need now is a natural 6. Biss and Rodrigo should be sold
Spurs are in a relegation battle this season, like it or not😢 The team has lost 11 games, same as Ipswich??? Anyone who thinks it's not relegation standards,have a rethink. The premiership is past halfway, Levy and crew are not doing anything to change the situation. Can't believe Levy is reportedly one of the decent chairmen in football? Makes no sense.
I'm trying to figure out what the psychology of the under-performing 1st team is... maybe the stadioum & training ground is so good the players become complacent???
I think mikey moore can even play better than Brennan Johnson and Maddison if we provide him proper chances like they have.
We need to ask to leader " alot of why" to improve and change.
I think the older members are probably sick to death of seeing the same shite at the club. Motivation through the floor
Love the show guys. Can you make edge up the volume of your mics just a bit? Cheers
TIME TRAVELER HERE: Spurs, ManU and Man City are currently fighting for the trophy. The Championship trophy. Time to finally bring home some silverware.
The fall from grace is even crazier when you consider no manager has ever gotten more points in their first 10 games than Ange.
Haha delusion by some of Spurs fans is joke,... Richarlison was one of the hottest prospects in EPL when you signed him. I remember Spurs fans labeling him the next R9. So stop talking rubbish
Ben having trouble reading Coherency made me laugh for 5 minutes 9:45
If Spurs get relegated I'm not sure I can continue to be a fan of this club.😔
This club would definitely filter out the plastics when that happens, thats for sure.
@@zeonmxIf you think so, you want this team to get relegated.
I want to root for a team that can at least survive in the PL. 💪
The stadium will be empty
Where’s the next league win coming from ?
We were never going to get that forward from PSG its all a farse they are waiting for our injury players to come back and if we do buy someone it will be a cheap nobody...I've never said get rid of Ange but now I've changed my mind i will also wave a wond and get rid of levi to😢
Maddison come from the championship and that’s where we’re heading. Brennan should have stayed at forest.
Sacking Ange won't fix this, he's the right man for the job. Tottenham lack squad depth and it's being exposed this season with all the extra cup games being played. Injuries are making it worse too. Improve the squad and the results will come. Fans need to back Ange.
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Makes it look Manor and Emerson were the smart ones.Leeds will get promoted and a trophy and Emerson already won a trophy😂
Would not matter what set of players you have, Ange won't work out this level!!! Maureen and Conte were bad fits for the club and players we had, but Sunday league Ange is so far of it, it's becoming humiliating.
Sim you just make excuse after excuse up, a bit like Ange. You fail to see whats right in front of you, just like Ange. You refuse to confront reality and make changes just like Ange.... Bad managers destroy confidence and fail to react, well Ange is a bad manager on steroids. Scott Munn needs to take the Aussie league cohort and leave now.
I’m sorry ange has to go if we lose to Everton away we can’t carry on like this it’s getting silly he’s failing only reason why he’s getting away with it is because we are playing more attacking football it’s crazy how we sacked harry how we sacked AVB and poch for getting us top 4 and 5th to now we sit 14th and I can’t see us getting a win and it’s not about getting 1 win we need a run of 5 to 6 wins back to back now and I can’t see that
Imagine going down. Seems fitting really. Completely agree with your opening statement. Under 21s were great preseason.
Not sure why they blame in the board. The manager has no clue what he’s doing get rid of Ange.
The board is fully backing this manager who clearly don't know what he is doing. Classic spursy stuffs.
More pain, no gain. 😑
Because it’s an Australian rebuild! shotttt
Players should do their talking on the pitch. Where was kulo last night.
Kulu has been run into ground by the clueless manager or haven't you noticed?
@TheRealist2024 I've noticed quite a bit gone missing few times this season run into the ground like solanki and few other. My point was player's should not be calling out the board if they want to go to levy and speak to home brilliant good luck with that Ange is gone for me I don't have any confidence in him.
How close was the ref to the ball when Porro deflected it off for a goalkick corner,,,, he was literally right friggin there
Sim hanging onto the +11 goal difference 😂
A few weeks ago, Sim said we could be heading for fifth place.
Oh now you wanna have that relugation conversation, been saying this since December. Sacking Ange in February is bonkers. He should have gone in December.
Archie Gray is our long term "monster" 6 - not Bergval who is an 8/10. We do need to bolster the squad right now, but at CB and CF. We shouldn't spend on big on a midfielder who will block the progress of our great young 'uns.
Who plays at right wing? Johnson is the worst
Recruiting from the bottom teams means nothing. Van dijk came from Southampton.
Archie Gray could be a great option as a 6, with this defensive experience. When vdv and Romero back, he would be a really good option to have in front of them with bergvhall and kulu in the 8 and 10. Just need a solid right winger ahead of Johnson.
What’s with the constant of mic noises. It’s like ur on the motorway talking to me through FaceTime
That would really give the manager a reason to be in the huff.
😡 Ange is plan b-less! Needs to go, along with Levy! I want Jürgen Klinsmann or Joachim Löw!! Or even Poch back!
Sorry but your laughing about the goalie doing a back heel in our box. ‘He’s got balls of steel’ is that acceptable to you? No top manager wants there keeper doing shit like this. He was a liability yesterday. Could have cost us numerous goals. And that’s acceptable from our manager. That is what our manager has lead our players to believe it’s acceptable. It was Forster doing that last month. But it’s acceptable. And Ange culture of acceptableness is rubbing off on to players and fans. That’s why we are where we are, forget about injuries we’ve lost stupid games and played shit with our full team out.
It’s now getting too late or is too late to Sack Ange and stay in the Prem. sack him now and pray .
Have to sell Richie and bring in a top forward
What a shame. NOT. Kind of justice for a a bunch of fans who want their team to LOSE when it suits, rather than has a winning mentality at ALL times.
Still bitter about not winning the league last season mate ? 😂
Relegation is our only hope to get rid ok levy and co
Why is deki considered a senior player
I seen all this year's ago at brisbane.before you were aware of his existence. exhausting.
The goal difference is the problem.
There's no game or fixture management, just go all out to score as many as possible. Then the players are useless the next game.
Villa for instance have a negative goal difference. Generally go a goal up and conserve energy.
Doesn't always work but theres far fewer injuries and the players are fresh.
People are paying good money to watch that shit
Surley sim cant be ange in still. Look at the stats🤣 he is woeful
I do not know what the rebuild is - it seems to be converting Spurs from a top 4 team to a mid-table one.
He is like a child,this fake huff act I have witnessed his behaviour here in australia.huffy,moody, miserable