Why I Quit Guild Wars 2, and Why New Players Do Too
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- So if you're planning to quit Guild Wars 2, hopefully, this video will help you change your mind. However, please keep your health and sanity first, so if you plan to quit or take a break for life circumstances, do it.
Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy this.
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00:48 - Why Veterans Quit?
02:34 - Why New Players Quit?
06:59 - Why Stay?
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What special about gw2 is you can quit for a long time and you still can catch up due to mild or non-existence fomo. Just take your time and enjoy it.
Exactly
fomo is childish
Game barely gets any content, there is nothing to miss out rofl. Gem shop is full of FOMO though.
That's dumb excuse for no content idk why people like it, instead of making little to no content they can make boosting event for new players to catch up.
Right now gw2 is like an abandon park with nothing to do, new players just play through the honeymoon then quit.
I've been playing for almost 20 years from gw1 to today gw2 I take breaks from time to time and always come back to play, it was and remains the best game out there
Hands down
Games are for FUN, if anything you are doing feels like a GRIND, you are doing it wrong and it wont be long before you burnout and quit
Remember the journey is at least as important as the destination
This applies especially to games like GW2, as the vertical progression is minimal.
i love guildwars 2 for this reason, if a person wants to quit, they can quit whenever they want to. a person can also come back and jump right back in whenever they want to, there is no punishment for quitting and jumping back in later if one wishes to do so.
Right!
I quit every game I play then come back =)
You dont need to keep playing one game forever. 🙃
If this is your cup of tea, then go for it
The problem with Guild Wars 2 is, it fails to be an MMORPG.
You play for a few days, hit level 80, farm for a hundred gold, then buy Exotic Gear off the Trade Post. Everything after that is simply not worth the effort. Sure, you could make Ascended Armor, but that will take a like a month and a half due to daily crafting limits. Or, just spend like 1500 gold on the Trade Post. Ascended Armor is only 5% better than Exotic. Even if you chose to go for Ascended Armor, Technically Legendary Armor does exist, but it takes like 10,000 hours to do plus like 15,000 Gold. Its not any better than Ascended Armor.
If not for the community gatekeeping, Raiding should realistically start with Exotic Gear. That is also Irrelevant, because you're not going to be able to raid unless you were part of the first wave of raiders who raided when the game released over a decade ago.
Just doing your daily crafting would eat up any free time you'd have away from Work/School. 400 Thin Leather Sections for Daily crafting? 300 Silk Cloth for Daily Tailoring? I mean 50 Mithril Bars is really not all that bad. 150 Mithril Ore can be farmed up doing META events and Salvaging gear. Other materials like Rugged Leather Sections will take literal hours to collect enough of it to make enough Rugged Leather to do anything with.
The WvW is full of Cheaters that Arena.net won't do anything about, because the cheaters are carrying the Devs through WvW which has all kinds of important items including things to make Legendary Gear. (Like gifts of Battle and Memory of Battle both of which are only obtainable in WvW. I don't think most of the Devs play this game. I have been playing on and off for a decade, and have amassed around 2,000 hours of it. (90% of my playtime was spent AFK in lions Arch, because I ran out of shit to do after the first few weeks into the game and don't want to spent 10,000 hours of my life getting Legendary Gear for a game that I don't want to do anything in.
The Devs never wanted to add PvP into the game. They went to war with the community over it and lost. You can't Raid unless you were part of the first wave of players who wanted to raid. If you're not in a Successful WvW guild, It will literally take you thousands of hours to accomplish anything in World vs World. It literally took me 100 hours to solo grind Warclaw. Why? I couldn't even find a commander. Becoming a commander takes 300 Gold, and comes with the asterisk that if you're bad at it, you just wasted 300 Gold. If you're good at it, you're going to get DDOS'd and harassed by hundreds of thousands of people till you quit playing or kill yourself.
My fiancée started playing and 3 days in got 100% map completion and liked dragon hunter as her spec. When she realized she needed gold she asked about fishing. Now after making thousands of gold from fishing she is crafting eternity not because she cares about a legendary but because it’s pretty and she wants a clock for her fishing. This is when I realized she didn’t have the clock in her settings turned on for her mini map but she still wants “the fancy clock sword”
Forgot to mention I have been playing since 2014-2015 ish and haven’t done map completion on one character yet I mostly play wvw or pvp.
hahaha, your Fiancee seems interesting. But you didnt tell me, how did you get her to play, im still struggling to get my wife to play xD
@@xGuidersi talked to my wife about the game, and asked her if she wants to join me in some exploration/doing ach and stuff. Basicly to spend some time together, but in game :) she quit later cuz sge had to finish her PhD and never came back even tho she wants to. But we played for a 1-2 years. She loved to farm halloween 😅
@@MrLuckymica :')
I've never heard of someone getting eternity as a clock lmaoo
Met my girlfriend 20 years ago. I am so glad she is as much of a gamer as I am, and we can enjoy so many games together up to this day. I really couldn't imagine it to be any other way.
Treasure it
Hello I guess one thing I would suggest to new players running around on older maps is use map chat to ask for help with stuff cuz it's surprising how many veteran players are actually out there doing stuff so def don't be shy using map chat
Do that ^
Helping is also content
I'm new to gw2 and new to mmorpgs in general I've never played one and I just started gw2 yesterday a lot to take in but doesn't seem too complicated once u learn it the idea of a huge world and I can do anything and everything overwhelms me a little since I've never really played a game where you had to make your own fun I'm excited for this journey though
great review. I agree with everything. If you do get to work with the gw team, offer this: Promote people who really like pve and helping newbies. New players may not know how to wade through the lfg. have a slot for mentoring in lfg and let them know that there are players willing to do the basics again just for the fun of it. I love helping. It keeps the game fresh.
The emptiness of the maps is a real problem. I quit multiple times since actually trying to get into GW2 about 4 years ago and every time the population decreases more and more, and I find myself thinking "I wish I had enjoyed the game when it was alive-- I must really be too late now!" and then usually I quit again.
I'm female btw. Your wife might be like me and like shiny things. Show her some pretty maps, the skyscale and other mounts, and the wardrobe (especially winged backpacks). I also found it helpful to make new characters and skip to the pvp zone to try out the specializations to find the one I wanted to stick with. She can see if any classes feel better to her without having to unlock all skills. The only reason I'm still playing now is because I bought a few skins from the gem shop and rushed through the skyscale quest x'D I'm slowly going through core content completely backwards, starting with the personal story, with a survivable celestial bs build lifted straight from the expansion level 80 boost as a virtuoso with a dragon and a cuckoo springer, and idgaf. I simply feel that GW2 is more fun this way than the crawl of getting to level 80 in a lonely world.
You may be able to entice her if she gets to own a cute cuckoo springer or a dragon, a little crow miniature, or whatever is her thing.
Thats the thing about the game, she tried getting into it again without me asking her, but hunting bunnies and walking extremely slow is not in my favor, am thinking to make her jump straight to level 80 with a booster and do what you suggested xD
what is amazing about gw2 is that it is free and you can never quit you always can play it.
I started playing about 5-6 weeks ago. I watched hours of youtube content, some helpful and some clickbait; many yt content providers have been very helpful so I focus on those as they've led me to some helpful websites regarding many aspects of game play. I picked a guardian to start out and did the completionist map with the vistas, mini quests, waypoints, etc. Anything that could be auto deposited by right-clicking I just dropped it there as I was not familiar with items that had value or were junk. This was helpful as when I hit 80, I put everything, all the deposits on the auction house and had about 70g. I will say that channel chats (I've heard pvp is toxic) but the rest are pretty mild compared to WOW which is toxic in general, lfg, crafting, you name it. I have joined a couple of guilds but no one really talks and joining a guild for a few buffs and some harvests seems meh. Overall, it's been fun so far but I find, from years of playing mmos, that I can see where it is a grind, lots of dailies and makes me wonder if I really want to go through this again in a redefined package. I think if I chose this game at the onset of its launch, I would be very excited but being new to this game with peeps that have spent a good chunk of their lives playing this, I'm way behind and wonder if I even want to somehow find a way to bridge the gap and invest the time and energy to catch up to the players that have lagged way behind over the years. I'm not sure if it is worth it, but it's a fun game.
Its worth it man, but yeah starting a new game after so many years in the MMO genre, especially one at this scale, can feel kinda mehh. Don't focus too much on the grind, and enjoy the journey
I played GW all way back in the days from the start of Prophesies and had.. some expectations in GW2, which were not met IMO and so I quitted just after the start of Tower of Nightmare events. During Covid years my company went down and I was in no hurry to find a new job, so I had all the time in the world and I eventually picked back up GW2 again with GW being a distant memory. Bought HoT and played for a bit; then bought every expansions shortly after in one go and had a total blast going through all the contents good or bad. And now I cannot get enough of this game, I just casually work through one thing at a time with some loose routines, and slowly working on my legendary things (if I feel like it). GW2 cross progression, and its contents requiring different level of commitment let me choose what to do depends on how engaged or filthy casual I want to be, and I love the game for it.
When you said "no hurry to find new job, and have all the time in the world", this hit me where it hurts xD
I'm no veteran, i've only played 350 hours, and if you understand the game, you'll know it's not a lot given the amount of content, but that's exactly my main issue.
When I first joined, i played my first 150 hours with the feeling of "Ehhh, doesn't really seem like I want to play this game over FFXIV" but i stuck with it for a bit longer until i also took one of my classic year break (Every game i play, i play for a while, quit for a year or a bit less and then come back), went back to other MMOs, and found out, that I was missing everything about GW2. Now i'm committed to the game and i'm enjoying it a lot.
But even tho I love this game, and I cannot go back to other MMOs, i can't excuse the lack of organization this game has for it's content. As you said, settings goals is the best thing to do, but firstly, how are you going to set goals, if you don't even know what there is to do? How are you going to understand how to do stuff, when all you get is "This is a Strike mission, it's a PvE content, go do it" and of course, the wiki exist i know, but you can't expect new players to enjoy reading an entire wiki page for a single piece of drop in a single piece of content with 8000 uses.
I still haven't touche Fractals, not because i'm scared to fail or something like that, i've learned what they are, what to do, team compositions, rotations just by playing, these are thing that you learn by playing, but I still don't even know where to start or how to start a fractals, just because there's an entire world, and the portals for Fractals are all over the place. Same with Strikes, what's the difference between "(Experienced) and (Training)" LFG? Training has 1 group per year because of course it does.
All of this could be easily fixed by making tabs for each piece of content, or reduce the spreading of things and write info of that content in some places related to the content. Imagine how more clear, the wallet puch would be, if you had separators for each currency, and by hovering on them, you'll learn that they are spendable on that type of merchant, then the wiki is justified, you just wiki the merchant, you understand all of their locations, you go there and see what the currency can buy you.
And yes, I did lose myself when writing this comment, so I might have explained myself poorly, or missed something extremely important, so i'm sorry, it's extremely frustrating to me, to have to open the Wiki every few minutes and still have less understanding than if it were just easily more digestable in the game itself
So in short, game is fantastic, but it's less organized than this comment. And no, the Wiki is not a solution. Just because the tape can hold everything together it's ok, there shouldn't be any tape to begin with.
Edit: And by the way, I know why it's way less organized than every other MMOs, because it's an horizontal progression game, and to make this type of game good, you need lots of content, but that's an even bigger reason to organise everything properly, otherwise you end in this situation
After reading your big ass comment xD First, its gladdens me to hear that you're enjoying the game.
Second, If you've played WoW, the way they display Dungeons and what kind of rewards you can get / bosses to expect. Would be a nice implementation to the game if they can show different tabs for PvE, PvP, and WvW, and content for each one. Recommended level, how to approach it, how to do it, and basically, general information about every aspect in the game.
Then its up to you to actually know more about it, but again, this "book" or guide or whatever, would be there to show all the new players about the content that is available in the game.
Yeaaaah, i went a bit off the deep end. It's a topic that really gets me going given how much i've grown fond of the game. Plus i was on the shitter, i had a lot of time ahahahah.@@xGuiders
I think the most important thing is really playing at your own pace. Back when the game started I didn't have the time to play, so I started half a year later. While I generally liked the game (besides a few things like that weapon skills are bound)... what killed basically most of the fun I had was my friends dragging me around through content I simply wasn't ready yet. It all was looking so chaotic, stressful... so after a few weeks I basically quit again.
It took me until ~ a year after HoT came out that I gave it another try. Most of these friends moved to other games and those who stayed played very chill. So this time I took my time and it was great. I didn't move slow, but it was in my own pace. I leveled alts, I discovered what I liked and what not. Later I also learned that to achieve stuff in the game I did not have to grind, but doing whatever is fun to me at the time. So when the time was there too make my first leggies.... I could just craft them. With the following ones I took my time.
This game is perfect for me since I do not feel any pressure, I do as much or as little as I like or can.
Im really glad that you found the right game for you
I always run around with my lvl 80 char in the starting zones. they are well populated and have nice places to explore. the mid game maps are kinda dead. the end game places are extremely high populated.
agree with mid game maps, especially some of the Living World season 4 maps, Jahai Bluffs, Thunderhead etc
Well said brother! I will add for new players, the simple thing to do while lvling is follow the giant green arrows and shining dots(main story), dont worry about doing everything in each zone . just do hearts(quests) and dynamic events (orange circles) and some light exploring along the way. Id also recommend if you like the feel for the game by the time your lvl 30-40 don't feel afraid just to pick up an expansion to get a lvl 80 boost. Youll need the expansions anyway if you decide to play long term.
Listen to this guy
I agree with everything except the boost. By all means, boost any alts...however a fundamentttruth in all MMOs is that you should NEVER boost your first character. It's a sure path to being shit at the game, and not enjoying the experience.
Ya for sure, I get that and did that myself but at the end of the day boosting also helps people get into the games too. It's doesn't always = overwhelmed and leaving. Plus you'll get 3 lvl 80 boosts with all the xpacs anyway so you'll have a few alts covered.
I invited a friend to the game about a year ago he boosted his first char, in a month and a half he had his first set of raid armor, boosting doesnt really screw you as long as you have patience and take the time to learn what your specs skills and class does.
@@alkaid5756 yup yup 👍 I'd rather have friends doing content with me than lvling to 80 alone if the story isn't grabbing them
One of the things I love most about GW2 is that it respects your time and effort SO much.
I literally have a core guardian build I still have from GAME LAUNCH that I still could use in WvW no problem 11 years later.
I challenge ANYONE to name another mmo where a character, equipment, stats, build, etc. are all still reasonably viable 11 years down the road.
Just dropped a sub and hopefully that’ll put you one step closer to being a full time creator bro!
If you want your gf/wife to stick with the game you really need to get a PC or laptop right next to her and get a new account like her so you can go through the leveling process together (no mounts,auto looting, gear, elite specs etc facing any issues, problems together).
Pro Tip: Send those 2 accounts as many large bags you can can afford.
I think this is the way to go. As much as I hate going back, this could be the right call
I started to play in 2020, and took a break not long after due to irl stuff. Picked it up again in 2022. I take things slowly and i try to avoid burnouts. Was an avid wow player and i had enough of blizz's bad decisions. My husband isn't big on mmo's, but he showed me GW2 and he plays with me from time. Right now my goal is to slowly max my professions without exchanging irl money to in game gold. I want to get the gold and the materials by doing content. I don't care much about the gem store, so i avoid buying things like cosmetics, but the storage expander was nice, as well as a few extra character slots.
Very good video, one thing thats good for leveling is the adventure guide acheives doing it speeds up leveling quite a bit and most of the objectives are easy
I didnt notice that they gave experience really in my new account playthrough thanks xD
@@xGuiders np it automatically applies the exp as you complete them
Ive only played for a year but Ive already maxed 40 characters. It’s my way of keeping thing busy and interesting. 😂
Thats a lot of alt parkings xD
I started playing GW2 about 7 months after it released. My longest break from the game is 2 whole months lol. My secret is to just find what you love to do and do it :} I always have a different goal everyday, but usually end up doing something completely different. I could log in with the goal of getting some achievements completed, but end the day with helping out a person I came across that is fairly new to the game. Or I can log on with map exploration in mind, but end up doing one of my many legendary collections I have going because I saw part of the collection pop up during map completion lol Either way I let it play out however it plays out, but I always have my goals :} They get finished eventually, but GW is meant to be taken slow. There is no need to rush content, it'll always be there for you :}
when you said 2 whole, I expected years. Then you said months xD Thats great tho!
@@xGuiders lmao what can I say xD No burn out yet!
I've put about 1500 hours into the game. I stopped because everything endgame is a laundry list of chores to do. It's genuinely a good game with no where to go. I just play bannerlord now cause there isn't an mmo worth my time
I've been playing GW2 on and off since launch, it's always easy to come back to this game cause of how there's no sub fees and your account never falls behind because there's no gear treadmill.
My reasons are -
1. There is no content update for wvw. They can maybe try adding new maps and if not that, update part of maps and re-texture the old ones because they are very low fidelity compared to other pve new zones. The maps are showing their age graphics wise. Similar case for pvp. No new maps and old look bad.
2. The bloom effect kills the game. If you put Postprocessing off many cool ambient colors go away and also the game looks bad in some areas. These settings need to be separated. If not that, allow modders to do that for you. They really need to adapt some new lighting techniques and settings if they can.
3. New elite specs are clunky, I play necromancer (and this is just an example, ik other classes have their clunk too) and the amount of bugs harbinger still has is insane. Major impact skill's animations are reused and have weird before and aftercasts. Harbinger underwater shroud animation is not even developed and dont work. All of this doesn't impact the game that much but it gives a message that they don't care about elite specs and animations even after this long of their release. Which is the fallout point for me personally. I know how game animations are made. They are doing bottom of the barrel job in the industry wrt animations on e-specs. You can get people making better ones from fiverr. I'm sorry animations do affect the gameplay experience, if you cant maintain your min standard it just feels disrespectful towards the player. Like how every boss is a ball in the latest content 😂 compare that to marionette animation wise and it was made god knows when.
4. Content isn't hard and now all classes can do everything which is a + and a - but the weird thing is that being able to use all weapons for all e-specs takes away from exclusivity or special-ness of the elite spec to some degree which i personally don't like.
5. The core game is just outdated visually, mechanically and story wise too in many places which gives a bad look from the get go and major fallout point for most new people. I can bet money on this point.
If this helps change 5 points to 4, ANet did announce that they are working on revamping the core game, soo.
I played the game that release, and it was a nice switch up from World of Warcraft at the time, but while I was just always better in my opinion. I’m also surprised at no controller support with such a few button suppress. It would be perfect.
Gw2 is perfect, but something it lacks is that type of difficulty reward that characterizes most MMORPGs, for example, the mount aspects, the outfits, the legendary weapons and the ability to become stronger each time are not there. present here, once you get your legendary set you only have to farm gold to buy cosmetics, but those rewards to stand out as a true roleplayer are not there, some special mount that only falls with really difficult raid bosses in the style of WoW, outfits that are difficult to get either by missions or by drop in the style of Blade&Soul, or missions that are quite complicated to carry out due to their strength and penalties, as can be the case in Tibia, in short, the element of difficulty in the end game is what bothers me a lot. little, but it is still for me the best mmorpg that exists
I played from beta until 2014 and just came back 3 months ago LOL I love that it is free to play so it does not feel like I have to play to get my money worth. I can play slowly and whenever. I prefer the older maps, HoT is a nightmare and after doing 2 zones I quit and skipped it. You can't move around, everything is some huge event and I just don't want to play with other people all the time.
I think the beauty in HOT is its verticallity, idk thats me
As a new player the thing i hated was i was never forced into the dungeons for early levels. Im doing the main story ive done like 6 zones im now lvl 80 somehow and im doing the very first dungeon lol and it feels really weird. Also you cant even do story mode solo and need to wait for a group for people who arnt even doing them. a Vet might say there not important but its new player stuff feeling the game.
I only game about 4-5 hours a week. Lord of the Rings Online is my favorite MMO but I'm coming up on 40hrs total in GW2. I play with a controller. It's a great casual experience. Long gone are my days of grinding and sweating in games so it's perfect for me!
Ive tried countless MMOs after starting WOW in 2006, and nothing has come close since, but returning to WOW is not nearly as satisfying as returning to GW2. While I'm told GW1 is timeless and has yet to be replicated, GW2 got it right in that you can always return to have fun and not feel like your progress was erased or you need to race to a finish line.
ty this was good video and i dont say that often i hope ya dreams come Ture for what if worth
Andrew oh Andrew, you have no idea how much this means to me, cheers 🍻
Combat is 1,3,4,6 rinse and repeat. I played for 8 years straight from beta.. Its a great game, but in the end, ALL professions and combat, elites, it just breaks down to skill rotations. I fall asleep playing it. I finally just uninstalled it and moved on. Great game, a lot of content, but lets face it most players are not spending 8 years in GW2.
Well GW1 had fully customized UI Layout. It baffles me that its successor doesnt. I'm a jaded veteran too and I took my breaks to play other games as well. The point is, GW2 horizontal progression allows you to do so.
As far as goals go, my current long term goal is to - slowly - complete legendary armory. I hope the new obsidian armor gets adjusted someday because grinding rifts is the kind of thing that drains the soul out of me...I simply can't to them for long.
where most people mess up playing guildwars 2 is that they think they need to race to level 80. Then they need to race for end game. Then they need to race into ascended gear. GW2 isn't like that. Its not a 100 yard dash to get through, its a marathon. Take your time to wander around the maps. Take your time to learn what every skill in your kit (skills/ build) does. It is the journey to the endgame that matters. Some grinds take weeks or months. Its ok its time gated there is no rush. I came from WOW and was in that sprinter mode I maxed several characters quickly some i used boosts for. I was just simply frustrated with the game. It finally clicked and i played each char from the beginning and had a much better time. You have to ease into each professions playstyle.
Once you hit lvl 80 you're kind of lost or overwhelmed with so many options.. or just not knowing where to start. I came back several times but the game didn't click with me until it did.. And that was making my own goals, finding what I wanted to do.. But then its focusing on stuff, don't over extend yourself and make it a part time job.. If you want to do SoTo stuff focus on that! Raiding, focus on that! Fractuals, focus on that!.. I came back months ago to make gold, and while I did it was a 9 hour game plan after work of going from events to fractuals/dailies.. And yeah burn out :( Breaks are good to have honestly.
2012 I started at day one, quit around 5 years ago and came back for one day or so. The problem is there is no Endgame. The Endgame is Fashion Wars and the cool stuff is only available in the Gemstore. You can barely make money with events to buy gems. To make the most money you have to grind Silver Wastes or high level Fractals or Raids. (Dungeons are dead for years)
I just wish the old Meta Maps on HoT were more supported by weekly achievements to bring back players for metas.
As someone who helped quite a few new players to get into the game, I learned that you should explain everything right now to a new player. Stay with them, wait for their questions, moments of visual confusion or making bad decisions and explain only the relevant parts to them - not more yet. I know it can be hard, but you just need to remember that one of the big appeals of this game is figuring out stuff yourself and explore the world yourself. Also try to avoid to come across as "mansplaining" it. You have the advantage of seeing the person playing instead of just the ingame avatar.
But ultimately you also have to accept that: a) Guild Wars 2 is not the right game for everyone and b) Sometimes people need to try it several times and be in the right mood so it "clicks" for them. The second part is especially true if they had any ideas about the game that the actual gameplay didn't match with, like "oh, so this game is just like WoW (or another MMORPG she might be familiar with)" and then realizing it is actually not like that other game in many ways.
Mansplaining and seeing the person instead of just the avatar, surely helps look at helping people in a different perspective, well said
I am lvl 11 in gw2 and I think k im quitting, the movement feels so bad and it just doesn’t grab me like other mmos have
For a new player, GW2 lacks in tutorial(s). I stay mainly because, I still enjoy the events. Just need to get members in one of the 5 guilds I'm in to actually start doing raids, strikes, etc. Not a fan of "pug" groups but, seems like I can get more done with them than an organized group. (shrugs).
Yea finding a decent static group is hard work
I don't call it quitting the game but just having a break. I have also had a lot of long breaks but I got myself addicted to it again when I return
My biggest problem with the game is obtaining ascended gear. Each piece takes hours upon hours of farming and gives you such a tiny bump in power it just feels pointless to farm it. People that keep saying "it's optional you don't need it" are just missing the point. The reward should be proportional to the effort required to attain it. For example the skyscale is worth grinding for because the reward is massive.
I'm really upset I can't get into my old account with 5 leveled 80 characters. I also haven't even played the game since Mounts have came out.
Time to start over? 😂 I do love flying in games, & that always put me off when it came to GW2. (No mounts or flying at the time) I tried WoW but had a lot of time in GW2. My favorite MMO's were Perfect world, GW2 & RuneScape.
I'm now coming back to GW2 & I guess I'm restarting because there is no chance of getting my old account back at this point.
I have set my ultimate goal a long time ago just to get me going in this game no matter what and that is to have all the legendary weapons from gen 1 to gen 3 hence need to get rich...when I did Aurora I immediately did Vision...and I wanted to do more like coalescenes but raid is toxic to me...If I felt being burned out at what im doing, i just go to do pvp while listening to music...this game respects the time of people so just take it one at a time on your own pace...you need to set the things you need to do every time you log in so you'll focus only that whether its just farming or doing legendary stuff or just doing an achievement...
Yea this is true, and if legendaries is the way to go for you, then keep at it. Just make sure not to run out of leggies xD
I have all of the expansions, I have 5 level 80 characters and I haven't touched any of the expansion content except for the quest that gives you your first mount. 90 percent of the content in this game I have no clue about. When I try to access any of it, I die quickly. I don't last. None of my characters do. I haven't maxed out a single elite specialization yet. I'm still working on it 3 of the characters I have at level 80. I've even got 100k in gold. I haven't got a single crafting skill maxed out. Every time I play this game I can only stand it for an hour at most and then I get bored. I like the art, but combat sucks. It's boring. I hate 'jumping puzzles' too. You can't even jump or climb. You can swim but you can't just climb and jumping is a joke. I wish I had a flying mount so I could enjoy this game but getting one is nearly an impossible grind that I can't commit to.
And the award to the most sarcastic comment in 2023 goes to 😅
The current state of replayability is really boring. Yes open world is like the GW2 thing, but doing the same metas every day, the same way, I just yawn while following the commander.
In my opinion competition is what keeps the game intriguing and different every single encounter. It's sad that the game started out as PVP focused, just for it to be left and forgotten.
And they say that this game removes the grind and focuses on the fun, understandable, it being horizontal progression, but is the fun really there with repetitive "follow the commander" metas? Heck, even the rewards aren't that much rewarding, nothing to eagerly expect, just the same old bags that when opened drop more bags. Grind for exponential profit, really no dopamine inscrease. That's why players leave.
Though, gotta give credit where credit is due, the Wizards Vault is a big improvement over the prior daily rewards, they're actually rewarding!
And also the weaponmaster training, really made certain builds more fun.
In the end, if ArenaNet doesn't look into improving the competitive side of the game, everything is going to stay the same.
Alliance since 2018, and PvP hasnt seen anything big apart from automated tournaments a few years ago. You're kinda right on this point.
But when it comes to the other points, believe me, I also found out that people enjoy that type of stuff. It might not be for everyone to repeat, but some this fills some people's cup of tea.
Yes, of course, not really against it, that's what makes it gw2 I guess. You could say I'm kinda jealous of them not getting bored easily doing open world.
It's just the fact, as stated before, they neglect PVP in favor of PVE, instead of keeping everything somewhat in balance.
Doesn't have to be a PVP update every 3-4 months, an impactful one once a year would even suffice at this point.@@xGuiders
I play this game very casually. Have stuck with it for a year now and am barely getting to HoT with my solo. This has been the best way to play, at least for me. No game is worth your sanity.
Me as a new player I quit because of the many game breaking bugs where quests finish themselves, unkillable bosses and other shenanigans where discovered. Its a no ftom me.
My wife plays WvW with my guild. She was drawn in by the discord social aspect as well as playing together with people/friends. She now has a full legendary set, weapon, and 1 conflux completed. There is no sign of slowing down yet.
Either your girl wants to spend time with you doing the things you enjoy or not. My wife isn't even a gamer by the sense of the word.
Not a gamer and has full legendary, theres no stopping her if she was a gamer then 💪
Great stuff man
the reason I quit was to me not enough vertical progression at end game that feels meaningful.
Yea this seems to hit a lot of people
This game has been going downhill fast since around LW5 and you can just see the budget cuts in real time rn. Shitty metas. Rushed storylines. Low budget looking production values. Very little new content that matters(like new systems ala fractals). And now we don’t even get new classes. The game just feels done.
I see zero point in grinding this shit right now. Just move on guys
My issue is that lore weapons aren't legendary and legendary weapons have no lore
Only thing i started to notice about all the sponsored streams and vids about GW2 was they started to call the game a ''Free to start'' and i think is pretty fair.
Nice wording
Okay? With that logic there exists no free2play game. The actual human beings that make these games do not do it for free lol. Somewhere, somehow, they have to sell something or the game dies.
I'm on the cusp of quitting because I still just don't mesh with any of the classes, they're just not that fun.
I also don't really like any other race except Asura. But, I don't want to be stuck with Asura.
Stuck deciding whether to go back to ESO or start WoW. WoW is looking the best choice so far.
Sir, you said you were in India but which part of India is that?
Delhi, and sadly, stayed in New Manglapuri xD
GW2 is a game that is easy to come and go from. Easy to take breaks and not lose ground. WoW was a second job. GW2 isn't. I wish I would have moved over a long time ago. Early this year I started a new thing where I rotate games every couple months to keep games exciting. On about a 1 month rotation right now. I was on Star Citizen for a month, then the GW2 expansion came out so I played that for a month, and now I'm playing Starfield. Feels like I'm winding down from Starfield, so will be switching back to GW2 briefly, and then to Star Citizen for November event. Staying in 1 game too long is just too much like work. Games are meant to be fun, not work. It's been working out great. Swapping frequently keeps the games exciting.
Thats a nice way to enjoy games, but doesnt work for some people. For me for example, unless im bored of a game, my brain doesnt allow me to jump ship xD
I quit because the lag is practically unberable for AUS players not just pvp but also pve endgame. Maybe when they make a server in Asia I'll hop back in but for now I've been having a blast with BDO and I have no plans to return to gw2.
When I say the "free2play" aspect of GW2 is pretty limited and feels more like a trial I always get in pretty heated discussions and I am downvoted to hell. Comparing to old mmos or old trials, yeah it can be called that, but I don't think nowadays it fits the bill. The big mmos like WoW and FF14 have pretty good trials, letting you play throught expansions and experimenting a bit more. THO I must say that letting you level to 80 is pretty generous and is a easy counter argument. And it getting LSW1 for free makes the content last longer.
Also agree with the UI customization, specially for boons that is most people think there should be ways to see better or even better explained ingame.
About coming back when they release patches or expansions.... tbh that's what devs expect of mmos and it's usually what is seen in almost every one of them. I actually get fascinated seeing content creators like Teapot, and seeing what some of them do to play for so long can be an idea to what you should also be doing. Usually trying new modes, leveling new characters, doing some collections/achievements and so on. I really think there is a lot to do in GW2.
About the exploration part.. I think the game is fine the way it is, but most people miss the first tutorial about hearts even tho the NPC is right in front of you as soon as you leave the tutorial. Something should be done, either making the dialogue start automatically when you get near them, or they following the player, dunno. I don't think forcing tutorials is a good game design, but it may alleviate in this case. Also to convince a partner to play/like a game play together, but don't try to explain every little thing and sometimes let them lead, so they participate!
Any controversial topic will get your downvoted to the ground, but I agree with you. The f2p aspects are limited, but thats how it should be because the game was not meant to be f2p. Its rather just a way to give players a trial before making a decision, just like you said, its pretty generous.
I plan on following on the biggers GW2 creator footsteps as they seem to be doing well. Obviously with a twist, but thats rather some good insight thanks :D
Regarding the partner thing, I wish that was enough xD
@@xGuiders Tbh I wish sometimes they just threw HoT for free as well, that would make the trial/f2p perfect.
At last someone who says it.
This game was fun for me, i got a warrior and it was fun but after that it was over.
each time i came back i uninstall the game like litterly after no more than 5 minutes. i just cant.
You should give it a chance and some time to click
i play WvW between content drop .. problem fixed....
optimistic guy, we need more people like you, Lord Flaming Fart.
İts hard, I don't have enough patience for Gw2
my girlfiend play in solo and love the game man! she change idea about the game at lvl 30 when start to farm dungeons :)
I tried very hard to get her to level 8, she'd only do it if I took her on my turtle mount xD
@@xGuiders yeah turtle mount work good if you help her to lvl up XD
Thanks for the video, I quit the game many times, but is not bicose I don't have golds the golds are what is burning you, whathever you do in Gw2 is all a insane farming haurs, be the time you get to your gold it was so hard to get there, that all the hype is gone and you realise that arenanet is playing with you, and you quit
The only game modes that are good is pvp and wvw, but is always controlled be the meta, ooooo I forgot now you have this new thing the relics if you want that buff guess what buy the expansion, wy are not playing a game they are playing with uss
Theres more to the game than just gold, but i on a high level i gotta agree with you on the farming part
If you want your wife to play you have to get her some cool cosmetics. I got my wife an outfit and tons of dye. We also picked the same race and matching last names. She was hooked immediately.
And do story together
The thing about gw2, if you started once it released, and you were on the hype train for it and kept playing, you genuinely have a special place in your heart for this game. The fact they dont charge any sub fee back then and gave such a high quality game, really made certain mmorpgers appreciate the game. The horizontal progression, the customisation, the expansions, the story, it all made me feel more positive about life. Even though i don't play anymore unless expansions come up. Guild wars 2 is the type of mmorpg that says, yes have a life, yes be happy, and yes we always welcome you back, you don't have to keep pay. I avoid playing games at all, as it has wasted a lot of my life but guild wars 2 always is a fond place to go to every now and then.
Well spoken
Incorrect. Playing video games are a pass-time, they are never a waste of time.
Im a new player. My goal was to get all Mounts and i had a lot of fun. Now im done..
Glad that you did, now set a new goal :D
It should be advertised as Unlimited Trial Account, I played it until I hit 80 and then bought the game with full expansions
Agreed
Crafting made me quit the shit is way to long and tedious
I appreciate your video, however I completely disagree. I started playing a year ago with all those expantions already in place. I got no mount in the begining. I had no idea how to get it. I didn't understand the "hearts" mechanic. Crafting seemed like a mess. The whole world was huge, terryfying but also mysterious and inviting. I still like the old maps. Quite frankly I miss this newbie feeling now.
When I got to HoT I was furious at the verticality bc I always died when I tried to glide. Now it feels completely natural. I'm still a casual player. I haven't done fractals or raids or PvP. Mayby I'll get to it one day. I still think of all other MMOs this one got it right.
You need to put time into this game. It's very complicated with practically no tutorial. HOWEVER: the community is very friendly and helpful and if you take things slow you will learn everything you need to know and never leave.
It can be really overwhelming with all this content, can't say no to that
I quit the game around Ice Brewed saga I disliked it and I was little burnt out, but I returned a week before Secrets of the Obscure dropped and returned back to the legendary crafting grind.
Careful when you say grind, dont need you leaving us again. always remember to take it at your own pace and have fun!
@@xGuiders oh no dont worry I am having fun, the thing is now I would be needing to do WvW and I think I will wait for the update Anet mentioned. It is dry to say the least and I miss the reward track potions.
@@Auriorium Soon TM :D
@@xGuiders yes Soon TM :D
Best Advices:
- Play in your own pace
- Take a Break
somthing i to 100% agree, ppl often forget its at the end just a game, if you don't enjoy it or feel you have to play, just stop it, if your static group feels more like work, get out of it and relax. I played that game since the release beta and i do always come back to this game and also know why i love the horizontal progress.
what i always see in veteran and new player, they burn out because of all the goals they have to achieve.
I don't know why but i never was one of the "tryhards" and still got all the raid, strike, fractal content done, with old friends or new guildies. If you have the feeling of burning out.. maybe you need a new perspectiv like xGuiders said it, make your own goal that makes you feel the excitement
keep it up
Great advice my guy 🍻
Yep. Keep it casual. I came back a few months back after being away for many years. I couldn't get into end game stuff. Gear was a pain mainly. Coming back, gear is much easier and cheaper to get so now I can play fractals and strikes. At first II did dailies religiously, but I've learned to only play when you are in the mood. Also, there are lot of chill things to do at whatever pace you want. There is no need to rush.
@@mcblaze1968 gald to see other ppl also got that point too !! :D
mightyteapot said in his newier videos, you should or have to see it like a part-time job, what i kinda disagree but if you wanna reach a goal, like to been the best dps in a group, yeah you have to take afford into it, still if you see it as a job, you also wanna work in a mindset or workplace/environment that isn't toxic.
for all the newbies enjoy it to fail, been destroyed and smashed into the ground because of the greens of vale guardian, with your friends when you never experienced it before, do it with fun and i promise you guys, you will never forget it when you beat it ass up the first time :D !!
Bro. That's what I feel about WoW. After 16 years of playing consistently I'm done. Guild wars is so different than wow and I'm really interested in this game.
You should tell your other wow friends xD
I just cant stand the fact that the archer doesnt use arrows and this is my problem as a archer player in ewery game
They do though. Rangers use bows, or arrows. Even though its not really meta, but still viable. Not sure if this is what you're talking about or am i missing something
Im talking about bow animation wchich is while character is shooting bow there is no actual arrow on the bow , only bow and the string, its a small thing but for me game breaking as a lover of bows , anyway i have another character (enginer holosmith ) wchich is pretty fun but i wish the bow animations were better
@@tojatak6222but you can clearly see the arrows flying, we even have bulletdrop physics here, so you can even hit stuff that’s out of range if you position yourself correctly
I was never able to enjoy this, I tried multiple times and always quite in a week, I feel like I'm wasting my time doing those mindless heart quests, and worst of all, it's per character based.
Its not for everyone :/
Man, that's sad. Playing for more than 7 hours of this game plus working 9 - 5? You have to sleep too of course probably 5 - 6 hours? If you're doing this everyday for years, it's really gonna take a toll on you. I've been playing this game for like 7 years now and I still haven't completed all my Legendary armor, I have one full medium legendary gear, 2 more piece to complete the heavy armor, I've gotten most of the legendary weapons but not all, I have a legendary back pack and no legendary trinkets. I have EOD and SOTO expansions but haven't finished both of them yet, cause I only do 1 to 2 stories every weekend only or whenever I feel like it. This is the only game I play nothing else. I am mostly out with friends playing basketball. I only play GW2 2 to 3 hours every other day. There's a life out there, man.
That's probably accurate, and getting all those leggies with this little time is kinda impressive.
Regarding the hours, this is just recent cz trying to leave that 9 to 5 to become a full time content creator. Nothing comes easy my friend, and this is only temporary, Im just learning to embrace the journey, and look forward to the result!
As a new free to play player I quit because to progress through this game you need to have the expansions packs to do fishing.
I mean the feature was added during the third expansion 🤷♂️
Tha fuck did you get that from? If you’re new, fishing is not only not necessary at all to progress anything, you also don’t even reach the point of unlocking it for a long time if you don’t immediately rush into EoD
What made me quit is realization that latest xpac and post EoD update is indication of overal quality of content going forward, and outside of story being interesting, everything else felt very flat for me, strikes poorly balanced, whole xpac filled with reused assets left and right, borderline inexcusably poor balance of current meta game.
Anet is making a new game they keep hiring for which I hope will turn out awesome and gw2 got to help pay the bills until then, sadly I don't really want to grind subpar content, just gonna hop on for the story I guess or Strike CM's.
cant disagree about EoD and the recycled content.
i still didnt watch the video, but... i have only 1 month and half here... and just bought all expansions
haha, dont worry, its a positive video. I'd never do you like this
Well, I can talk about myself.. first time I played the game I only done personal story.
In my opinion, its the worst story in the game. Doesnt compare to new ones, if you havent done so yet, give it a shot
Oh I am a veteran too, but 9 years ago I only done personal story and quit the game, I come back when IBS was released
There is a reason it is called "Grind Wars".
Non guided MMO is like the original MMO. People are hate to talk to one NPC then directed to other NPC then goes for another NPC
backtracking is the worst
@@xGuiders that lead the comunication begin. You can start anywhere, anycity. It will have countless possibilities.
Guided MMO usually just can start from a point then you just skip the dialog by tapping endlesly. When someone ask how to start you answer "just follow the quest" - end.
@@drimz2949 exactly why guided quests r useless. Consider BDO for example, great game, but lets be real, every1 skips the dialogue xD
This guy probably invested more time and effort in this game than some developers... ❤
Still waiting for ANET to send me that proposal xD
"leveling is hard"....was that a joke? You know they added Adventure Guide right? Leveling in Guildwars2 is the fastest of any MMO ive ever played.
I think I said slow, but not as slower as other games, but yeah it does go faster by a lot, than other games.
GW2 players on TH-cam: "Come play GW2, it respects your time much more than WOW and our community isn't as toxic as in other MMOs. And you don't have to pay sub."
GW2 in reality: Pay for everything in the shop, even chapters of the story, which are not included in the expansions (WTF). Also, get gatekept from literally EVERY instanced content in the game no matter how easy it is by the MOST TOXIC community I ever encountered in over 30 years of gaming. WOW pvp servers are safe spaces compared to GW2.
In WOW and FF14 I can at least queue for dungeons, raids, pvp. In GW2 you can't queue for anything, so you have to deal with the disgusting gatekeeping. You level from 1-80 as if it is a single player game, then you reach 80 and can't participate in any instanced PVE content.
Im on verge of quiting gw2 for what current arena net doing to warrior, if not overhelming nerfs, then retard changes with absolute no sense and i played warrior since it went free to play, but for few years, with each patch they make, i want to quit more and more cause i cant spent another 9 years to learn other class or invest time and money into get alts builded like my main, not mention how currently warrior is not playable for me in competive modes, guardians? get slaped, thiefs? get slapped, ele, rangers? slapped, engi? slaped, and dont even start with harbringer!
Provisioner Tokens made me quit Guild Wars 2. Those are pure cancer.
Come on, they cant be that bad. I am also doing a guide on them on Tuesday, so dont make me change my mind pls xD
@@xGuiders When they were first implemented, there were only the provisioner tokens at the HoT maps. And not only that, you could only buy from them AFTER you've BEATEN the meta on those maps. That was WAY TOO much, that's when I called it quits...after I've famed by 150 LI.
@@sand9577 ohh, yeahh you're talking about those days. I remember. But right now they are basically candy
I quit GW2 so I could play GW1.
6:41 I played with her and made stories so she got excited everytime, but if it were to be the game alone she would never play xD
Thank you Master! I'll try this xD
I also quit the game when I played from 2012 to 2014 and came back on a new account 2022 because of the end of dragons DLC so now again Im at this point of quitting I have pretty much everything and more that I actually wanted 😅 GW2 has only repetitive content always the same crap over and over again farming for legendary Weapons/Armor/Trinkets month or even years and then ? Nothing 😂 only repetitive stuff is left over another big problem is the very bad performance even a 4090 can't hit the 60fps with 50 or more people 😮 the game is just to old nothing changed from 2012 gameplay over 10 years old maybe it's time for Guild Wars 3 ? Probably not gonna happen...😢
It is hard for a Warframe player to go to another game that advertises itself as "free-to-play".
Playing WF now, and i get it 😅
making an existential problem out of a molehill are we?
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I quit this game 20 minutes after starting, because it sucks. GW2 is like playing Smash Bros with Mouse and Keyboard.
Why you quit, let me help you and others, when you over play a game example content creators that need new things every single day or week to bring for everyone usually over play games to the point that is not a game anymore but a job, if you have time to play a game for 6-10 straight everyday you need to find something productive in your life, seriously go out do something, now if you have a job from 8-3pm or etc and have a family you are lucky if you get a few hours to play so with that said this is an advice I always give to content creators specially, mix your channels with more than just one game, yes you can get a good hit in one tittle but be smart and add others, there are viewers for every game out there just find it, what I see most of the time are people that get a good spike on one game and go all out them get burn out and quit leaving the only viewers they found in the dust, not to mention doing what you are doing here discouraging others from playing, I see this so many times it actually pissed me off, cause other will look at your video and think o this game is sht so I will not play just to follow you to another game and dejavu all over after a few months of play you get bored and do the same, so please be smart.
But I didnt quit. This is a positive video, its why I USED to quit, and how I changed my direction when playing the game
I’m coming from new world so this is nothing new to me. Lol
I have a problem I think lmao. I've played for 615 hours in 80 days 😂
I did my time in 3.8k days xD
Lmao, 13,637 hours over 2104 days here xD 29 chars lol all level 80 and in at least exotic gear xD, you're fine lol.
Road to 1k subscribers
has been hard but fun, 50 to go :D