With the Zidoo it can easily handle special tags for different versions of a particular movie. You can customize it with the filename code. This is useful for movies that are spread across two 4k discs, or seperate discs for theatrical and extended versions. Does this support that? I already ordered one of these, and to be honest I expected it to be snappier than it appears to be. Hoping for the best.
Looks very nice but too expensive. I have an oppo 4k player that also has 3.0 usb where I dock my 18TB HDD. I have all my movies under specific directories. Unfortunately, no icons/pix of movies. But, loads extremely fast because of a 7200 rpm HDD.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
@@Youthman Step up to the plate and, with Netflix cutting their disk rental service, start buying them. With me it’s always been a mix, but it’s picking up now.
@@Youthman i hope it’s around for a few years to come both me and my son have just recently bought the new Magnetar UDP900 4k player £3100 here in the uk
Brick and mortars are already dropping them, and I believe Australia won't even get at least some releases at all. It's a dying concept, which is frankly disastrous. Nothing else on the market comes close for quality except Kaleidescape - and while I'd enjoy that system I'm sure the cost is just ruinous. Constantly buying media is already expensive but forking up thousands upon thousands up front just sucks and it's more money I could be spending on the media.
I don't know if you guys noticed this but this unit is the Zappiti Neo relabeled as R_volution. I have the neo and this is a duplicate with the same connections out back. It even cost the same as the original cost of the Neo. I've since purchased a Zidoo Z2600 and boxed up my Zappiti because I did not want to wake up one day and my movies not work when I want to use it.
I also own the Zappiti Neo as well and paid $899 for it back in April of this year. There are some differences though minus the R_volution logo. The power light is no longer on the front left panel as well as the power input is no longer a 12 Volt barrel connection.
Yes - This app is coming for the Zapitti as well as its th esame team (sadly its going to be charged for but a trival ammount) not sure why you think your movies wouldnt work however - worse case is th explorer would need to be used so no screen wall.
Doesn't look like a bad solution, but I'm still going to use a small PC with a graphics card with the Kodi software and MadVR filters installed. The more powerful the GPU, the more of the MadVR stuff you can enable. Only works on ripped files played through the PC but that's not bad, for the low low cost of free (except for the PC with Windows on it of course). Remote control requires a tad bit of elbow grease but nothing major, just buy a FLIRC IR-receiver and plug in via USB and you can use a normal remote - and FLIRC also makes a really cheap Skip 1s remote control that can do scenes and stuff, perhaps something to review? I just got my remote, it has a decent quality feel but I have yet to get it set up.
I don’t think any device is going to be an HTPC replacement. The trade off is an HTPC has to be built, configured etc so there’s a lot more time involved.
It definitely looks snappy to navigate. After those movie posters loaded the first time on a page, if you change to another page and come back, will the posters still be there or do they have to reload?
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Basically a rebadged Zapitti Neo and as a screw you to Zapitti owners to continue using our players the new company which employs ex Zapitti staff want us all to pay $50 a year for the new video app whilst buyers of the rebadged Neo get it for free.
@@alexanderfedorov7890 it's been mentioned that the cloud servers for Zapitti will be turned off in Dec and if we still want the movie wall we all have to pay an annual fee of $50 per year for the app which runs on the R evolution players.
I fully agree with you. I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hi Michael. Big fan of the channel. For this demo, you connected the player to external drive to access the media. Have you tried to connect to a NAS? I just got this R volution player, but I was unable to connect the video player to my synology Nas using Wi-Fi within the same network. Any advice or idea? Thanks.
I recently did a setup video on my UGREEN NAS and was able to connect it to the R_volution - th-cam.com/video/-Y4XKE5BIew/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zY6AdWn1jgemOrl5
@@Youthman hi Michael. Thanks for responding. Your video showed me how to access the file from my Nas through the explorer app. I was able to do that. What I had trouble was the inability to get R video to access the movies files from my Nas and create a wallpaper of the library. I kept getting kicked out to the authentication page with the username and password. It’s just weird. I never had trouble like that with the Zidoo player.
Do you know if it will be possible to sync a zappiti nas with this player, if so how on earth would I do it? Whilst I appreciate there will be an app to enable continued use of their players and nas I may consider moving to this for supportability. Thanks anyone in advance, Ian
From R_volution “Zappiti nas is already compatible with the new player if you use the cloud, there will be a new Rvideo server that can be put inside the Zappiti NAS too very soon.”
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hi. Thank you for review! I'm in S.Korea and there's no many file player option. So using Shield pro with KODI as file player, can you simply compare its output QUALITY (Video and Audio)? Is this player worth for the price? (the price is not big deal to me) Looking forward your advice!!
The best feature with zappiti was the ipad app, where you could see all your collection and also use as a remote. That was the big deal. I don’t think the r-evolution does it
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
I hva nvidia shield and apple tv 4k, of those 2 i like the shield better since apple for some reason cant output true bitstream and the sound is not in sync when using plex... @Youthman @@Youthman
Hi Michael. I have always liked your channel. This may sound like a stupid question, but with this item, you have to somehow record the video disk that you own to a hard drive? Would that not take a long time to do as opposed to just popping in the media to a player? I like to idea, but I am kind of confused. Hopefully you can help me out and shed some light. Thank you.
It’s definitely not a stupid question. Yes you are correct, this device plays media that you have ripped from your collection. This is beneficial for those who have large media collections that want to organize them and catalog them, and have easy access. Think of someone that has 1000 movies in their collection. Unless you’re super organized, sometimes it’s difficult to find the movie you want to watch or to even browse through your collection.
Something like this looks like an interesting option, I currently just use my network storage server for all my media and stream them directly on my HTPC. Main problem for me doing that currently anyway, is HDR to SDR (Older OLED TV) would be the problem or not getting 3D movie support for my old 3D TV without running the disc through my PS3/PS4. So this device seems like it could be appealing if I could simply keep using my network storage server as the primary source.
I have the Max Vision 4K. It is my understanding that it is the best of this group for ISO files. The interface is a little older, and you cannot customize it too much. One nice feature is that the library is local on the machine, so no lag. Based on this demo, I would say that the Dune loads much faster. Finally, you can put 2 hard drives (2.5 or 3.5 inch) directly into it, and then see them as network drives on a PC. Quality is stunning for both video and audio .. with bitrates comparable to disks if you have a full disk rip. Price is a bit lower, but I had my unit shipped by air freight from Hong Kong (very fast but costly.)
@@Youthman Ok I just recently invested a good sum of money into upgrades for my living room. My AVR for the past few years was a Onkyo TX-SR707 which ran a 7.2 Klipsch satellite speaker system with one Klipsch sub and a Sony sub from a previous theater system. I bought a pair of Klipsch RP-8000Fii to replace my two front speakers and I also bought a RP-504Cii Replaced my Onkyo with the Marantz Cinema 50. Should be a huge improvement. Thanks for always inspiring me with a life long passion.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hi. I have many physical copies of 4k discs I want to but on a hard drive. How did you create your copies to be able to play back and or play through this player?
No, this is not a streaming device. It organizes, catalogs, and plays your digital media from either an internal hard drive, or an external hard drive.
Looking at the specs they seem to be older. Not hdmi 2.1, yes we don’t watch at 120Hz but thinking about future proof. 1Gbps Ethernet seems 2.5 or 10 would be nicer.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
If it’s the same as the zappiti which I’m guessing it is then most likely 16TB internal. External max storage for drives will depend on your NAS but I don’t use anything higher than 20TB drives
It’s on their website. “The R_volution PlayerOne comes with an internal hard drive bay capable of hosting up to 16 TB of movies (USB extension possible), TV shows and music files, dual HDMI outputs and offers astonishing picture and sound quality to meet requirements of the most demanding Home theater users.” “HDD Slot With its 3.5 "SATA hot-swap rack, the PlayerOne is capable of supporting up to 16TB of data internally; the equivalent of about 400 Blu-rays or 200 Ultra HD Blu-ray (bit perfect) on a single hard disk. And as it is possible to exchange hard drives, you have no capacity limit! With the PlayerOne, you no longer need to worry about storage problems. R_video can manage one collection for each drive or one collection for all your drives as you wish. Hard drive not included.” “HDD Rack Enclosure Option: Easily and quickly insert and exchange internal 3.5'' SATA hard drives up to 16 TB (18 and 20 TB are supported only if you are using 2 partitions).”
@@Youthman Thanks Michael for the specific response. That means a lot. I am quite intrigued by the unit as it’s also quite affordable. I have a library of ripped movies. This would definitely enhances the experience.
Yes, that is what they are currently working on. They are hoping to have it available in November. I believe it will be $50 per year for Zappiti, Dune, and Zidoo products.
One thing it doesnt do, play UHD disk! How much would it be to add drivebay to really have all in one solution for one media? Can you btw add streaming platforms like Netflix?
The PlayerOne is a media player, not a hub for streaming services like Netflix. You can add the hard drive of your choice. Check their website for maximum file size.
I am talking about the Dune players. They play 1:1 rips with Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc. and they support Android Apps. You really do get the best of both worlds this way.
That’s great to hear. I do not have any experience or knowledge other than the name of dune players, so I wasn’t aware of its capability. I thought you were referring to something like an Nvidia shield or an Apple TV. I was merely stating it’s not designed to try to compete with them because that’s not their market. But in the same regard, it’s still not trying to be a streaming player. If you want an all in one solution to be able to do that, the dune might be a great option for you.
I was interested, until i saw the video ..I own 2 modded oppos , that do the job quicker, without all that clutter.All that fanart ..would take forever updating on my server , and most films these days are watched then deleted, or saved seperatly for storage.So saying that , but for my 2 oppos , I would splash out on something like this...especially when you cant get an oppo anymore ..for a second hand one you could by 2 or 3 of this R_VOLUTION player.
I went to their website and saw this: "Easy and Fast File Transfers: up to 90 MB/s via SATA and USB 3.1 / 115 MB/s via Ethernet." Are they using a SATA1 interface, which is rated at 150MB/s. What happens when someone uses a large SSD for quicker access? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself and they are just quoting the average speed of a HDD. Even the slowest USB 3.1 Gen 1 is rated a 5Gb/s or 650MB/s. No wonder Adele took 17 secs to load.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
What’s impressive is that it’s a decent price lol. It’s not 7 grand😂 still high tho. This box not worth more than 500. Also is there a site for this box? I keep searching nothing comes up
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
I'm disappointed that this unit doesn't have an onboard Blu Ray disc player. At $899 MSRP I would be more comfortable buying a high quality laptop (or desktop tower) and stream from it - via from the web or stored media - although I presently don't have any stored media.
Current streaming is t near the quality of a 1:1 rip of a bluray or 4K movie. You can setup a PLEX server to use with your own media. There are pros and cons to every option. You just have to figure out what works best for you.
Shilling? I share about all types of home theater products. We are all adults and can make our own decisions if a product is right for our Home Theater.
@@Youthman Your click bait thumbnail and video tagline came across as shilling. Your content presentation of the video was just sharing information general opinion.
Another genuine question, how does my video fit this description of a shill? “A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with said person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, politics, sports, confidence games, cryptocurrency, or other business areas. A shill may also act to discredit opponents or critics of the person or organization in which they have a vested interest.[1][2]” I have the same “relationship” with all of the brands I have reviewed products for over the past 6 years. I’m self employed so I don’t work for any of them. Also, I always disclose if a video is sponsored. This video was not sponsored. The sponsor is Arendal Sound who is a Platinum Channel Sponsor which was disclosed in the video. Again, just trying to understand your perception of me being a shill. Have a blessed day.
@@Youthman "Ultimate" without the question mark. Makes it seem to be the be all end all instead of a question of right solution. The reality is it is more expensive than comparable players from Dune or Zidoo running on an outdated OS with older gen hardware.
I fully agree with you. I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
I fully agree with you. I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
It doesn’t really seem to _do_ anything, does it. It’s just a glorified switch box with a GUI. For 900 smackers. I see the smoke, I’ll forgo the mirrors. Hard pass.
@@YouthmanI couldn’t agree with more Michael there’s no such thing! I think that it’s well worth the money. This is coming from someone who owns a Zappiti Neo.
Tyler is correct. Im not pushing any product. I do my best to provide enough info for viewers to decide for themselves if a product is a good fit for their budget and needs.
@@Youthman obviously push isn’t the correct word. But the video alone influences people. You know the history of the company and allot of viewers don’t. Obviously you already made that decision. I wouldn’t go near them All the best 👍
Hey Michael, thanks for the review! Always curious about other media players out there. Not sure if you've reviewed the Zidoo units but for the past year I've been using a Zidoo UHD3000 in my dedicated cinema room. Its has a nice interface, web ui, XMOS+ESS9068 DAC and loads faster than this unit.
Thank so much for this video. When it comes to me I have learned my lesson from Zappiti. Such a let-down. This is the same comp - with a name change. Lovely video and thank you again.
thanks for this look into the new product both as a replacement for Zappiti and as a new piece of gear. Short of the long loading time for the film it looks promising. But as a replacement for the Zappiti software it seems to be missing some key items that made the slow Zappiti worth putting up with. I will be interested to see your follow up video when you have time. thanks so much
@@Youthman thanks, the ability to edit metadata, edit poster art, and have access via a pc/mac app. to fine tune the collection. Also, retest the film loading times since what was much slower than the old software.
@@williamdepalma8349That would future proof it. If they ever went under you could add your own artwork and manually enter the detail information. No need to rely on a server. I’m sure they’ll never go for it.
It's something I may be interested in as an upgrade to Kodi and an alternative to Plex. few off the top questions, does it require a local drive to store the meta data/do this by default, or can/does it use internal flash. My issue with the Shield/kodi app on my Sony Tv is the meta data fills up the internal flash because my library is so large. Another thing, I have 3 shields plus the sony tv Kodi app, they all maintain separate libraries and changes are not synced between devices. Since you are creating and logging into an account on a server, if I get a 2nd device, will my library automatically sync and download, or will it need to re-read all my meta data again, and will changes like personal categories sync between devices? The interface is nice and the cover art is cool to have, but are there other views? sometimes I just want a compact a-z list of just titles, or maybe titles with meta data like genre, year file specs, would like you to explore other interface options if they exist. One thing Kodi doesn't seem to do is proper ISO /bdmv directory parsing, so it would be nice to see that in action, do you get proper menu rendering and playback, and just let us know if you have any other performance issues. I get semi frequent playback issues with my setup like a temporary audio pause and black screen, like it looses the handshake or signal, it's not a buffer, just a hiccup, I've wondered if a better player would resolve that, hard to say of course, so much in the a/v chain, but anything you experience would be great to know in future videos. It looks like it will locate your movie directory on a NAS as well, wouldl need to know what protocalls it supports, is it just dlna, SMB, etc. Thanks for the first hands knowledge and demonstrations.
My nVidia Shield with Plex was buggy and occasionally wouldn’t play my media files. Someone just posted today in one of the Facebook groups that they and others were having issues with Plex. It’s always been hit or miss for me.
@@YouthmanI think, I can guess when you tried it. There was a bump, around the time when it was moved from Android 11. Now, in last ~1.5-2 years, the Shield is a gold standard. It plays everything natively. Always. With no issues, no surprises, no hiccups. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a replacement for it. The decade-old nVidia Tegra is ancient, comparing to modern ARMs like Rockchips. But where it lacks the compute power, it all compensated by the well-maintained software. Many home theater enthusiasts consider a NAS->Shield/Plex->A/V receiver as a default pipeline. It would be nice to have a baseline for the comparisons and reviews. But it needs to be demo'd by someone experienced. The setup is not plug-and-play. It usually involves some older generation rack servers, with SAS shelf, running 100+TB of capacity in ZFS. All the software part is orchestrated in containers. If someone explains their media setup with these buzzwords, that would be a good candidate for a baseline of what Plex/Shield can do.
When you say "it stores the artwork on the device" - Obviously you were setting up for the first time and you could it 'loading' the poster art for the films from your hard drive... If you turn the player off and on again does and scroll through the poster wall, is the art all there now or is it like on the Zappiti where you see it lag as it load the artwork?
Does it support full bd menus? The Zidoo claims to but actually doesn’t and there are a lot of upset customers on various forums. I think that only the Dune players have full support that I know of. Would be great if this did too
Good review of a promising Media Player my big question is since I have never owned a Media Player before such as the Zappiti how many movies will this new Media Player hold??? I have over 10K physical movies and a growing collection of now 4K HDR movies well over a 1000 alone this player sounds impressive by your review but how many movies in a hard-drive will it hold? Oh P.S. yoour link to order the R_volution does not work????
So, what exactly happened with Zappiti and now this new company? Did they get bought out by a new company or did they shut down and re-open under a new name?
Bankruptcy... but one former guy comes up with this "new" brand, BUT the same principle: you need a token to connect and stay connected to their new cloud... so, as I wrote previously, if anything goes wrong, you'll be f**ked again...
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Why are there duplicates for many of the titles? Do you have multiple version of those movies on your external drive? I noticed the same thing on the demo at the Paris show video you posted.
@@Youthman The Zidoo automatically groups all those under one poster and when you click on it to get description you can choose which file. Kind of like a collection/saga but for an individual movie. Comes in handy for Theatrical Cut, Directors Cut, International Cut.
I still don't understand the use of these devices. I rip my blurays to a hard drive and connect it directly to my tv and play them with the same quality as the bluray. The only problem I see is that the TV only decodes HDR from the mkv and not dolby vision. I think that's the only difference with having these devices. But they are quite expensive compared to just plugging the external drive into the TV. Otherwise and as always, excellent video!
The workaround for that is to put the Blu Ray in your Blu Ray player, and route it through your processor and then to your video display device. It’s not like you have to flip the Blu Ray over halfway through or anything.
@@declanfarber Having the files on Hard Drive and being able to play from them is good back up as well. I have had DVDs suffer disc rot. These players upscale well, better than most disc players. It prevents disc damage and player wear. Also on the lower end of players the triple layer 4K discs have a nasty habbit of locking up.. Another plus is library storage. Having it all on the drive/s keeps it in one small space while you keep your discs in storage and out of site to please the spouse. Convenience of picking and viewing like a streaming service with the quality of discs. As for costs? Look at Zidoo.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti? I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Great review, Michael. I saw this was coming soon in your podcast- had a pretty good idea what it was. Looks like a nice unit that would be a good option for someone with the right use-case and on the market for a player right now. I have a Zidoo like some of your other followers, and have been (mostly) happy with it, other than lackluster reliability with ISO playback. Any notable takeaways with regard to format (UHD/BD ISO)? It would be nice if some mention of DSD was in the spec, but I bet most of the target market already has another player with support for that if they care about it. Keep it up.
@@David25522 Yes, but it's spotty. Some play just fine, others have issues. It's hit and miss. I still tend to store everything as ISO for archival purposes, and you can still play the main title even for files that aren't cooperating, but the menus can be unpredictable. As far as I know, that sort of behavior is typical across the Android- based players. YMMV depending on device and source.
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With the Zidoo it can easily handle special tags for different versions of a particular movie. You can customize it with the filename code. This is useful for movies that are spread across two 4k discs, or seperate discs for theatrical and extended versions. Does this support that? I already ordered one of these, and to be honest I expected it to be snappier than it appears to be. Hoping for the best.
Looks like it's just going to show duplicates and it's up to you to figure out. Zidoo is much cleaner in this regard.
Looks very nice but too expensive. I have an oppo 4k player that also has 3.0 usb where I dock my 18TB HDD. I have all my movies under specific directories. Unfortunately, no icons/pix of movies. But, loads extremely fast because of a 7200 rpm HDD.
@@inlandchris1 $899... Hell no!
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
Long live physical media
We can only hope. It’s not looking so good.
@@Youthman Step up to the plate and, with Netflix cutting their disk rental service, start buying them. With me it’s always been a mix, but it’s picking up now.
I always buy physical media.
@@Youthman i hope it’s around for a few years to come both me and my son have just recently bought the new Magnetar UDP900 4k player £3100 here in the uk
Brick and mortars are already dropping them, and I believe Australia won't even get at least some releases at all. It's a dying concept, which is frankly disastrous. Nothing else on the market comes close for quality except Kaleidescape - and while I'd enjoy that system I'm sure the cost is just ruinous. Constantly buying media is already expensive but forking up thousands upon thousands up front just sucks and it's more money I could be spending on the media.
I don't know if you guys noticed this but this unit is the Zappiti Neo relabeled as R_volution. I have the neo and this is a duplicate with the same connections out back. It even cost the same as the original cost of the Neo. I've since purchased a Zidoo Z2600 and boxed up my Zappiti because I did not want to wake up one day and my movies not work when I want to use it.
That is correct.
I also own the Zappiti Neo as well and paid $899 for it back in April of this year. There are some differences though minus the R_volution logo. The power light is no longer on the front left panel as well as the power input is no longer a 12 Volt barrel connection.
The R_volution has a larger power supply compared to the Zappiti Neo.
Yes - This app is coming for the Zapitti as well as its th esame team (sadly its going to be charged for but a trival ammount) not sure why you think your movies wouldnt work however - worse case is th explorer would need to be used so no screen wall.
The power supply is internal however. The Neo had a dc power input and an external PS.
Thanks for reviewing it without mocking it!
Doesn't look like a bad solution, but I'm still going to use a small PC with a graphics card with the Kodi software and MadVR filters installed. The more powerful the GPU, the more of the MadVR stuff you can enable. Only works on ripped files played through the PC but that's not bad, for the low low cost of free (except for the PC with Windows on it of course). Remote control requires a tad bit of elbow grease but nothing major, just buy a FLIRC IR-receiver and plug in via USB and you can use a normal remote - and FLIRC also makes a really cheap Skip 1s remote control that can do scenes and stuff, perhaps something to review? I just got my remote, it has a decent quality feel but I have yet to get it set up.
Ive decided to go with the Zidoo Z9X 8K, really happy with it so far. Replacing my almost 5 year NVIDIA Shield Pro😂
look forward to hearing more on this. a plug and play option similarly priced to a HTPC is a good option!
It's a good try....but not quite an HTPC replacement yet...plus I can game on my HTPC 😎
I don’t think any device is going to be an HTPC replacement. The trade off is an HTPC has to be built, configured etc so there’s a lot more time involved.
@@Youthman Very true...it does take time to build and set up an HTPC
It definitely looks snappy to navigate. After those movie posters loaded the first time on a page, if you change to another page and come back, will the posters still be there or do they have to reload?
I filmed a demo video tonight. Stay tuned
@@Youthman will do
How does this compare to similar players from Zidoo like the UHD5000? Would be interested in a comparison between those.
This unit will be mopped up by the UHD5000 😀😀😀
Z2000 Pro is a good alternative.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Can you do a video on how you loaded the external hard drive with your movies?
I do not have any videos showing how to RIP your Blu-ray and 4K disks. There are plenty of tutorials on TH-cam.
Can this be integrated into Harmony remotes?
How the appliance response with a nas via Ethernet ?
It makes much more sense to buy an android TV box instead, and it is much cheaper, and more things are being done.
Thanks a lot for video
Zidoo UHD5000 is very good choice I just replaced with this and its amazing.
Basically a rebadged Zapitti Neo and as a screw you to Zapitti owners to continue using our players the new company which employs ex Zapitti staff want us all to pay $50 a year for the new video app whilst buyers of the rebadged Neo get it for free.
yelp🙂
Subscription isn’t ideal but if it keeps the new company afloat and my Zappiti from being a boat anchor, I’ll deal with it.
Where do you guys see anything about subscription?
@@alexanderfedorov7890 it's been mentioned that the cloud servers for Zapitti will be turned off in Dec and if we still want the movie wall we all have to pay an annual fee of $50 per year for the app which runs on the R evolution players.
Supposed to be ready next month.
My opinion Zidoo is still on top. Thanks for the great video.
Zidoo makes a great product as well.
It's much faster!!
I have a new video going live today at noon ET. Stay tuned.
I fully agree with you.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Nice video Youthman. I hope the app is as good as te new player which I already own.
Hi Michael. Big fan of the channel. For this demo, you connected the player to external drive to access the media. Have you tried to connect to a NAS?
I just got this R volution player, but I was unable to connect the video player to my synology Nas using Wi-Fi within the same network. Any advice or idea? Thanks.
I recently did a setup video on my UGREEN NAS and was able to connect it to the R_volution - th-cam.com/video/-Y4XKE5BIew/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zY6AdWn1jgemOrl5
@@Youthman hi Michael. Thanks for responding. Your video showed me how to access the file from my Nas through the explorer app. I was able to do that.
What I had trouble was the inability to get R video to access the movies files from my Nas and create a wallpaper of the library.
I kept getting kicked out to the authentication page with the username and password. It’s just weird.
I never had trouble like that with the Zidoo player.
I have the same problem with the password. I can’t recall what I did to get past that.
in what instance would i need this over something like a Roku, Amazon Fire or apple tv, is this the same thing
Do you know if it will be possible to sync a zappiti nas with this player, if so how on earth would I do it? Whilst I appreciate there will be an app to enable continued use of their players and nas I may consider moving to this for supportability. Thanks anyone in advance, Ian
I’m checking on this
@@Youthman thank you
From R_volution
“Zappiti nas is already compatible with the new player if you use the cloud, there will be a new Rvideo server that can be put inside the Zappiti NAS too very soon.”
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hi. Thank you for review! I'm in S.Korea and there's no many file player option.
So using Shield pro with KODI as file player, can you simply compare its output QUALITY (Video and Audio)?
Is this player worth for the price? (the price is not big deal to me)
Looking forward your advice!!
i dont have usb ports on older tv only hdmi and i want to watch movies from flash drive , would this work?
Does this unit make playlists?
how many movies did you load??im sure loading up 1000+ movies and tv shows will slow it down a bit.
Thanks for this video looking forward to using the r video app
Is it possible to insert 2.5 Sata ssd Instead of 3.5 HDD
The best feature with zappiti was the ipad app, where you could see all your collection and also use as a remote. That was the big deal. I don’t think the r-evolution does it
Having a Zappiti Reference bought March 23' this review is bittersweet! I mean real bitter! 😑
I get it. The whole ordeal was unfortunate for the company and for its customers.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
This looks fine but would like a player that also have streaming apps...
That’s not what media players do. You are looking at a streaming app (AppleTV, Nvidia Shield, Firestick TV etc).
I hva nvidia shield and apple tv 4k, of those 2 i like the shield better since apple for some reason cant output true bitstream and the sound is not in sync when using plex... @Youthman @@Youthman
@@Youthman It depends on the player. I run Kodi, Cinema HD and other apps on my Dune.
OK, I have a question, why is it displaying, sometimes three and four of the same movie.
Do you have 13 hours? In three different formats?
Most of my media are “clips” from the same movie.
I really like the ability to personalize the label for different categories like DEMOS ❤
Me too.
Hi Michael. I have always liked your channel. This may sound like a stupid question, but with this item, you have to somehow record the video disk that you own to a hard drive? Would that not take a long time to do as opposed to just popping in the media to a player? I like to idea, but I am kind of confused. Hopefully you can help me out and shed some light. Thank you.
It’s definitely not a stupid question. Yes you are correct, this device plays media that you have ripped from your collection.
This is beneficial for those who have large media collections that want to organize them and catalog them, and have easy access. Think of someone that has 1000 movies in their collection. Unless you’re super organized, sometimes it’s difficult to find the movie you want to watch or to even browse through your collection.
Thank you. I appreciate your input. Do you have a favorite utility to use?
@@Youthman
Where can you buy bluesy movies to download?
Just curious...if a person gets a hard drive player like that and has the movies transferred onto hard disc, does one still keep the physical discs?
Personally, I would. If that harddrive dies, then you lost the media backup.
Something like this looks like an interesting option, I currently just use my network storage server for all my media and stream them directly on my HTPC. Main problem for me doing that currently anyway, is HDR to SDR (Older OLED TV) would be the problem or not getting 3D movie support for my old 3D TV without running the disc through my PS3/PS4. So this device seems like it could be appealing if I could simply keep using my network storage server as the primary source.
You using Windows? I have no problem with playing ripped 3D movies on my projector.
@@joeyyung911 Yes, and I've generally been using VLC player for everything though. What do you use for 3D compatibility on your system?
@@ReeseRiverson MPC-BE. On the projector, I have to manually change it to O/U or SBS.
How does this stack up against the Dune HD players ? Say, the Max Vision 4K or the Pro Vision 4K Solo which seems to be the same price wise.
I have the Max Vision 4K. It is my understanding that it is the best of this group for ISO files. The interface is a little older, and you cannot customize it too much. One nice feature is that the library is local on the machine, so no lag.
Based on this demo, I would say that the Dune loads much faster.
Finally, you can put 2 hard drives (2.5 or 3.5 inch) directly into it, and then see them as network drives on a PC.
Quality is stunning for both video and audio .. with bitrates comparable to disks if you have a full disk rip.
Price is a bit lower, but I had my unit shipped by air freight from Hong Kong (very fast but costly.)
Please pardon my ignorance. How do you get your DVD/Blu-ray collection from disc to on a hard drive or digital version for the R.volution
I do not have any tutorials on how to rip Blu-ray and 4K discs to a hard drive. There are plenty of them on TH-cam.
@@Youthman Ok
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My AVR for the past few years was a Onkyo TX-SR707 which ran a 7.2 Klipsch satellite speaker system with one Klipsch sub and a Sony sub from a previous theater system.
I bought a pair of Klipsch RP-8000Fii to replace my two front speakers and I also bought a RP-504Cii
Replaced my Onkyo with the Marantz Cinema 50. Should be a huge improvement. Thanks for always inspiring me with a life long passion.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hi. I have many physical copies of 4k discs I want to but on a hard drive. How did you create your copies to be able to play back and or play through this player?
I do not have any tutorials on how to rip movies to your hard drive. There are plenty of tutorials online.
Thanks
Can you download all the updated apps Netflix max, TH-cam TV?
No, this is not a streaming device. It organizes, catalogs, and plays your digital media from either an internal hard drive, or an external hard drive.
Looking at the specs they seem to be older. Not hdmi 2.1, yes we don’t watch at 120Hz but thinking about future proof. 1Gbps Ethernet seems 2.5 or 10 would be nicer.
Is Bluray ripping to your collection possible and legal in NA? Thanks.
You’ll have to check your laws.
0:00 Zappiti coming to a close? Are they closing shop?
That is correct.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Can this handle files with 3D MVC information? Full BD 3D video? I have been wanting something that can do that for a while.
Yes, this will play 3D MVC MKV and ISO blu-ray 3D files.
According to their website yes
"Enjoy all your 3D movies files (3D BD ISO, MKV 3D MVC)."
Sweet!
I use my Zidoo primarily for ripped 3D Blu-rays re-muxed with an Atmos track; good to know this thing can play 3D too.
@@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker Stick with the Zidoo. I came from a Zappiti Neo and now got a Zidoo because of this. The Zidoo is the better unit.
How much? 😊
Any pc with kodi and a minimal skin applied.
Hi Michael, do you know the max storage the device will accept, both external & internal?
If it’s the same as the zappiti which I’m guessing it is then most likely 16TB internal. External max storage for drives will depend on your NAS but I don’t use anything higher than 20TB drives
It’s on their website.
“The R_volution PlayerOne comes with an internal hard drive bay capable of hosting up to 16 TB of movies (USB extension possible), TV shows and music files, dual HDMI outputs and offers astonishing picture and sound quality to meet requirements of the most demanding Home theater users.”
“HDD Slot
With its 3.5 "SATA hot-swap rack, the PlayerOne is capable of supporting up to 16TB of data internally; the equivalent of about 400 Blu-rays or 200 Ultra HD Blu-ray (bit perfect) on a single hard disk. And as it is possible to exchange hard drives, you have no capacity limit! With the PlayerOne, you no longer need to worry about storage problems. R_video can manage one collection for each drive or one collection for all your drives as you wish.
Hard drive not included.”
“HDD Rack Enclosure Option: Easily and quickly insert and exchange internal 3.5'' SATA hard drives up to 16 TB (18 and 20 TB are supported only if you are using 2 partitions).”
@@markmes5890 The maximum is 20TB for internal and external drives just like the Zappiti Neo.
@@Youthman Thanks Michael for the specific response. That means a lot. I am quite intrigued by the unit as it’s also quite affordable. I have a library of ripped movies. This would definitely enhances the experience.
@@markmes5890Thank you Mark 🤙🏻
WHAT IS THE CAPACITY FOR A EXTERNAL DRIVE CONNECTED VIA THE USB PORTS?
@housbinpharteen7445 20TB is the limit per hard drive that it can read.
@@David25522 Awesome
It’s listed on the website
Will there be a way to load that interface on a zappiti
Yes, that is what they are currently working on. They are hoping to have it available in November. I believe it will be $50 per year for Zappiti, Dune, and Zidoo products.
Is it available now? How do I use the subscription service on my zappiti device?
@DaarioNeharis reach out to R_volution
One thing it doesnt do, play UHD disk! How much would it be to add drivebay to really have all in one solution for one media? Can you btw add streaming platforms like Netflix?
The PlayerOne is a media player, not a hub for streaming services like Netflix. You can add the hard drive of your choice. Check their website for maximum file size.
@@Youthman are you implying that it cannot run Android apps? That would put it at some disadvantage vs the competition.
It’s not meant to compete with streaming as they are far inferior to a 1:1 rip of a bluray or 4K disk
I am talking about the Dune players. They play 1:1 rips with Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc. and they support Android Apps. You really do get the best of both worlds this way.
That’s great to hear. I do not have any experience or knowledge other than the name of dune players, so I wasn’t aware of its capability. I thought you were referring to something like an Nvidia shield or an Apple TV. I was merely stating it’s not designed to try to compete with them because that’s not their market. But in the same regard, it’s still not trying to be a streaming player. If you want an all in one solution to be able to do that, the dune might be a great option for you.
I was interested, until i saw the video ..I own 2 modded oppos , that do the job quicker, without all that clutter.All that fanart ..would take forever updating on my server , and most films these days are watched then deleted, or saved seperatly for storage.So saying that , but for my 2 oppos , I would splash out on something like this...especially when you cant get an oppo anymore ..for a second hand one you could by 2 or 3 of this R_VOLUTION player.
Physical media forever
Nice !!!
FYI nvidia shield with kodi performs way faster than this item
That’s a great solution as well.
The playback of audio and video are severely low when comparing it to this media player, the Zidoo and the older zappiti.
I went to their website and saw this:
"Easy and Fast File Transfers: up to 90 MB/s via SATA and USB 3.1 / 115 MB/s via Ethernet."
Are they using a SATA1 interface, which is rated at 150MB/s. What happens when someone uses a large SSD for quicker access? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself and they are just quoting the average speed of a HDD. Even the slowest USB 3.1 Gen 1 is rated a 5Gb/s or 650MB/s.
No wonder Adele took 17 secs to load.
The max read and write speed is 160 Mbps.
I tried a SSD on it as well.
Why not just get an odroid n2 and run Kodi? Much faster and just as good
I like to be able to stream my movies whereefer i am via plex. If this could do that then i would be buying it.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
How they can charge 900$ for such a slow ass device is mindblowing. Just grab a Nvidia shield pro and fire up Plex/Jellyfin
What’s impressive is that it’s a decent price lol. It’s not 7 grand😂 still high tho. This box not worth more than 500. Also is there a site for this box? I keep searching nothing comes up
If you search Google for R_volution PlayerOne, it’s the first result - www.rvolution.com/r-volution-playerone
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Seems like a good user interface and a good replacement for a Zappiti
I definitely prefer the new UI and having the cover art stored locally to speed up access times.
it very much seems like a reskinned zappiti, not much improvement imo.
zappiti always cached some local meta data afaik.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Is the audio compressed?
The audio is played natively without any compression.
If you play a high resolution FLAC file, it plays it as the same Bitrate as the file.
I'm disappointed that this unit doesn't have an onboard Blu Ray disc player. At $899 MSRP I would be more comfortable buying a high quality laptop (or desktop tower) and stream from it - via from the web or stored media - although I presently don't have any stored media.
Current streaming is t near the quality of a 1:1 rip of a bluray or 4K movie. You can setup a PLEX server to use with your own media. There are pros and cons to every option. You just have to figure out what works best for you.
Why? This device is expensive especially since it doesn’t come with a drive. Plex is free …
True but your NAS isn’t free.
Can’t believe you are shilling for a relabeled zappiti neo. With the way they treated their last company I wouldn’t trust them at all.
Shilling? I share about all types of home theater products. We are all adults and can make our own decisions if a product is right for our Home Theater.
@@Youthman Your click bait thumbnail and video tagline came across as shilling. Your content presentation of the video was just sharing information general opinion.
Honest question. Does the R_volution media player play just about every media file? If so, what would make the title be clickbait?
Another genuine question, how does my video fit this description of a shill?
“A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with said person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, politics, sports, confidence games, cryptocurrency, or other business areas. A shill may also act to discredit opponents or critics of the person or organization in which they have a vested interest.[1][2]”
I have the same “relationship” with all of the brands I have reviewed products for over the past 6 years. I’m self employed so I don’t work for any of them. Also, I always disclose if a video is sponsored. This video was not sponsored. The sponsor is Arendal Sound who is a Platinum Channel Sponsor which was disclosed in the video. Again, just trying to understand your perception of me being a shill. Have a blessed day.
@@Youthman "Ultimate" without the question mark. Makes it seem to be the be all end all instead of a question of right solution. The reality is it is more expensive than comparable players from Dune or Zidoo running on an outdated OS with older gen hardware.
Seams extremely overpriced, Kodi running on a Nvidea shield can do everything this can do and a ton more for a third of the price.
Nothing wrong with that. This is simply another option.
Forget this company again you will get screwed by them once they go under!
I fully agree with you.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Hey everyone, we went out of business because we couldn't be trusted. Please trust us this time because it totally won't happen again. Sure!! lol
I fully agree with you.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
It doesn’t really seem to _do_ anything, does it. It’s just a glorified switch box with a GUI. For 900 smackers. I see the smoke, I’ll forgo the mirrors. Hard pass.
If you say so.
@@Youthman So tell me where I’m wrong?
I would love to hear about this switchbox. That doesn’t even make sense. 😀
@@YouthmanI couldn’t agree with more Michael there’s no such thing!
I think that it’s well worth the money.
This is coming from someone who owns a Zappiti Neo.
@@Youthman That switch box was the subject of your review. And again, beyond the switching and the GUI, it doesn’t actually DO anything. :^/
Why would you push a product on your viewers that has already failed in the market. It’s just a rea badged zapeeepeee
He never pushes anything on viewers. He just gives information in a positive way. Idk what you’re on about.
@@48tyler24 on about ? Explain yourself
Tyler is correct. Im not pushing any product. I do my best to provide enough info for viewers to decide for themselves if a product is a good fit for their budget and needs.
@@Youthman obviously push isn’t the correct word. But the video alone influences people. You know the history of the company and allot of viewers don’t. Obviously you already made that decision. I wouldn’t go near them
All the best 👍
You also don’t know the full story on why Zappiti closed. But nothing wrong with it not being a good fit for you.
17 seconds to load and play the video ?
There’s always Kaleidescape. 😉
@@Youthman 🤣😅
@@Youthman I'll settle for Nvidia Shield and Plex with loading time dwindles to zero at a price of two percent compared to Kscap..
The reality is there is never a solution that will fit everyone’s needs and budget. We all have to decide what works best for us.
Zidoo seems much faster but do think that the type of drive matters too.
Hey Michael, thanks for the review! Always curious about other media players out there. Not sure if you've reviewed the Zidoo units but for the past year I've been using a Zidoo UHD3000 in my dedicated cinema room. Its has a nice interface, web ui, XMOS+ESS9068 DAC and loads faster than this unit.
Yes, I reviewed ZIDOO NEO α(Alpha) Signature Edition
The Zidoo 3000 is awesome. The UI and build quality on this look like a step down from Zidoo.
Thank so much for this video. When it comes to me I have learned my lesson from Zappiti. Such a let-down. This is the same comp - with a name change. Lovely video and thank you again.
thanks for this look into the new product both as a replacement for Zappiti and as a new piece of gear. Short of the long loading time for the film it looks promising. But as a replacement for the Zappiti software it seems to be missing some key items that made the slow Zappiti worth putting up with. I will be interested to see your follow up video when you have time. thanks so much
What features are you hoping they add?
@@Youthman thanks, the ability to edit metadata, edit poster art, and have access via a pc/mac app. to fine tune the collection. Also, retest the film loading times since what was much slower than the old software.
From R_volution
“Yes all of that will be possible, for the PC App, it will be available very
soon.
For the loading , it's on the to do list !!”
@@williamdepalma8349That would future proof it. If they ever went under you could add your own artwork and manually enter the detail information. No need to rely on a server. I’m sure they’ll never go for it.
What we wanna know is IF this thing is MULTIREGION for both dvds and blu rays.
It's something I may be interested in as an upgrade to Kodi and an alternative to Plex. few off the top questions, does it require a local drive to store the meta data/do this by default, or can/does it use internal flash. My issue with the Shield/kodi app on my Sony Tv is the meta data fills up the internal flash because my library is so large. Another thing, I have 3 shields plus the sony tv Kodi app, they all maintain separate libraries and changes are not synced between devices. Since you are creating and logging into an account on a server, if I get a 2nd device, will my library automatically sync and download, or will it need to re-read all my meta data again, and will changes like personal categories sync between devices? The interface is nice and the cover art is cool to have, but are there other views? sometimes I just want a compact a-z list of just titles, or maybe titles with meta data like genre, year file specs, would like you to explore other interface options if they exist. One thing Kodi doesn't seem to do is proper ISO /bdmv directory parsing, so it would be nice to see that in action, do you get proper menu rendering and playback, and just let us know if you have any other performance issues. I get semi frequent playback issues with my setup like a temporary audio pause and black screen, like it looses the handshake or signal, it's not a buffer, just a hiccup, I've wondered if a better player would resolve that, hard to say of course, so much in the a/v chain, but anything you experience would be great to know in future videos. It looks like it will locate your movie directory on a NAS as well, wouldl need to know what protocalls it supports, is it just dlna, SMB, etc. Thanks for the first hands knowledge and demonstrations.
I guess this is better if you want to setup a theater instead of using apple tv
Is it possible to install plex on this player?
How does it compare to nVidia Shield with Plex?
My nVidia Shield with Plex was buggy and occasionally wouldn’t play my media files. Someone just posted today in one of the Facebook groups that they and others were having issues with Plex. It’s always been hit or miss for me.
@@YouthmanI think, I can guess when you tried it. There was a bump, around the time when it was moved from Android 11.
Now, in last ~1.5-2 years, the Shield is a gold standard. It plays everything natively. Always. With no issues, no surprises, no hiccups. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a replacement for it. The decade-old nVidia Tegra is ancient, comparing to modern ARMs like Rockchips. But where it lacks the compute power, it all compensated by the well-maintained software.
Many home theater enthusiasts consider a NAS->Shield/Plex->A/V receiver as a default pipeline. It would be nice to have a baseline for the comparisons and reviews. But it needs to be demo'd by someone experienced. The setup is not plug-and-play. It usually involves some older generation rack servers, with SAS shelf, running 100+TB of capacity in ZFS. All the software part is orchestrated in containers. If someone explains their media setup with these buzzwords, that would be a good candidate for a baseline of what Plex/Shield can do.
When you say "it stores the artwork on the device" - Obviously you were setting up for the first time and you could it 'loading' the poster art for the films from your hard drive... If you turn the player off and on again does and scroll through the poster wall, is the art all there now or is it like on the Zappiti where you see it lag as it load the artwork?
This is a great question that I would like Youthman to answer honestly.
I have a video going live today at NOON ET answering this question.
So this is Plex for $900?
Nice! What speed hard drive are you using? The interface for the hard drive SATA III? Also, what’s the experience with an SSD drive?
Does it support full bd menus? The Zidoo claims to but actually doesn’t and there are a lot of upset customers on various forums. I think that only the Dune players have full support that I know of. Would be great if this did too
If Vinyl is making a comeback, I'm sure our blu-rays will continue to be produced. Heck, even CDs and DVDs are still being produced...
From what I’ve read, you can now use R_Volution player on other hardware like Dune. Not sure what the cost is though
Good review of a promising Media Player my big question is since I have never owned a Media Player before such as the Zappiti how many movies will this new Media Player hold??? I have over 10K physical movies and a growing collection of now 4K HDR movies well over a 1000 alone this player sounds impressive by your review but how many movies in a hard-drive will it hold? Oh P.S. yoour link to order the R_volution does not work????
I have 140TB (7x 20tb) attached, so you can make it as big as you want.
Show me how the "Standalone" mode works.
So, what exactly happened with Zappiti and now this new company? Did they get bought out by a new company or did they shut down and re-open under a new name?
Bankruptcy... but one former guy comes up with this "new" brand, BUT the same principle: you need a token to connect and stay connected to their new cloud... so, as I wrote previously, if anything goes wrong, you'll be f**ked again...
Yea that UI looks much faster. Definitely going to be since it's not pulling all that info off a server
That’s slow to load. I have the Zidoo and I love it.
Zidoo makes a great product.
Any idea when the R video app will be available for Zappiti owners?
Zappiti owners waiting...
They said they’re shooting for November. But they did not give an actual date. It just depends on how quickly they can get it developed.
ATTENTION! I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Do you rip the blu-rays on a hard drive? Or is there a market place to buy digital copies of HD /UHD movies?
You will need to rip your movies.
@@Youthman thanks for the response!
Why are there duplicates for many of the titles? Do you have multiple version of those movies on your external drive? I noticed the same thing on the demo at the Paris show video you posted.
As shared in the video, most of my media are clips from movies for demo scenes. So they have the same meta data.
@@Youthman The Zidoo automatically groups all those under one poster and when you click on it to get description you can choose which file. Kind of like a collection/saga but for an individual movie. Comes in handy for Theatrical Cut, Directors Cut, International Cut.
Hopefully they can add that down the road with a firmware update.
Hey love your videos… how did you stored your videos collection on a hard drive??? Can you show us beginner how to…
Hi Tony, I do not have any tutorials on how to RIP your bluray and 4K disks to a hard drive. There are plenty tutorials on TH-cam.
Techno Dad has tutorial videos on that matter.
Why are devices still using Android 9, a OS from 2018 and that stopped receiving security updates Jan 2022
I’m not sure. I didn’t design it.
@@Youthman haha it was more of a yelling at clouds moment.
Ah 🤣
Zidoo is on Android 11. Just another reason to stay away from this product.
I still don't understand the use of these devices. I rip my blurays to a hard drive and connect it directly to my tv and play them with the same quality as the bluray. The only problem I see is that the TV only decodes HDR from the mkv and not dolby vision. I think that's the only difference with having these devices. But they are quite expensive compared to just plugging the external drive into the TV.
Otherwise and as always, excellent video!
These read Dolby Vision files and send the data to your TV
The workaround for that is to put the Blu Ray in your Blu Ray player, and route it through your processor and then to your video display device. It’s not like you have to flip the Blu Ray over halfway through or anything.
It’s an all in one player for those that want the ability to play just about any audio and video file type with a slick GUI.
@@Youthman So it is indeed just a super expensive switch box with a GUI. It doesn’t actually PLAY anything. Hoo boy. :^)
@@declanfarber Having the files on Hard Drive and being able to play from them is good back up as well. I have had DVDs suffer disc rot. These players upscale well, better than most disc players. It prevents disc damage and player wear. Also on the lower end of players the triple layer 4K discs have a nasty habbit of locking up.. Another plus is library storage. Having it all on the drive/s keeps it in one small space while you keep your discs in storage and out of site to please the spouse. Convenience of picking and viewing like a streaming service with the quality of discs. As for costs? Look at Zidoo.
Great video!! Does it come with the rack mount ears?
No ears. You would need to contact R_volution to see if they are available.
I bought a Zappiti Neo last July just to upgrade my previous model and what happen with the warranty of three years? The product that I bought was sell with the hardware and software included but now, because the Zappiti Team (or should I say R_volution Team once they are the same) shut down the cloud I just lost 799€ in about 5 months. Now the same guys from R_volution want to take advantage of the clients and "suggest" to keep paying them 5,99€/month just to have what should be assured during the warranty of the equipment. The new said "R_volution PlayerOne" is exactly same of Zappiti Neo (please see specifications). They only change the Logo on the front and even kept the same price. If they can sell the R_volution PlayerOne for 799€ including the software R_video with enough profit why they can not provide this software to the clients that bought them the Zappiti?
I'll buy a Zidoo and leave here a chalenge to all those who were scammed by Zappiti (R_volution) Team to delate this situation and protect potential victims from fraud commited by this company and stop them from keeping making money this way. Let's share this on the social media before this farce becomes out of control.
Great review, Michael. I saw this was coming soon in your podcast- had a pretty good idea what it was. Looks like a nice unit that would be a good option for someone with the right use-case and on the market for a player right now. I have a Zidoo like some of your other followers, and have been (mostly) happy with it, other than lackluster reliability with ISO playback. Any notable takeaways with regard to format (UHD/BD ISO)? It would be nice if some mention of DSD was in the spec, but I bet most of the target market already has another player with support for that if they care about it. Keep it up.
Thank you. Unfortunately I don’t have any ISO files. All of my media is mkv, .ts and FLAC.
Does the Zidoo player support playback of ISO files at all?
@@David25522 Yes, but it's spotty. Some play just fine, others have issues. It's hit and miss. I still tend to store everything as ISO for archival purposes, and you can still play the main title even for files that aren't cooperating, but the menus can be unpredictable. As far as I know, that sort of behavior is typical across the Android- based players. YMMV depending on device and source.
@@David25522 Yes, it does.
@@_shaggyrogers_ try dune, its play flawless for every single iso ,bdmv folder full bluray with menu