Thanks for watching guys! Sorry for the more serious video, but I feel like this shit is super important to talk about. Here’s the link on how to leave a public comment: www.firearmspolicy.org/save-the-braces Thanks to Goat Guns for sponsoring this video! I’m donating their sponsor money to the FPC: goatguns.com
While I need to clarify up front that I'm not sticking up for politicians here, these draft regulations aren't produced in Congress, but within the ATF itself. In other words, it's administrators, not the politicians, against whom your ire should be directed here. To be fair, the senior post holders do have to have their positions confirmed by Congress, so they do need to take *some* of the blame, but this really isn't their party (no pun intended!).
@@scottmoldenhauer8908 i mean if the crime involves a firearm you're gonna lose your guns either way, might as well just break all of the firearms laws
Looks boys. With sbrs I just suggest storing the stock detached. That way they can never prove anything. Personally I should alone on my own land. So zero chance anyone would know.
"There's no new laws or anything, they just changed their fucking mind". Dude, I'm so glad that you not only understand the bullshit of that agency but that you actually are public about it and against it. Thank you. You reach far more people than I do.
What difference does it make?? They don't care about the law it's self, because at the end of the Day, if they come to your house to rip the Guns from your own hands, & show up with Military action against you?? They won't need a Gun Law to do so... All they need is a word: "We're Coming For Your Guns" kinda word... You might be willing to fight a Government barging into your house, but that don't mean your neighbors are gonna want to help defend you, especially if the Government is after you, not them, & they might be at risk themselves next, if they intervine...
Law abiding citizens: ATF: “too many people are obeying the law and supporting their constitutional rights. let’s make a bunch of them criminals for funsies.”
law abiding would mean that if you want to own SBR you follow the law and use proper procedure to do so. bypassing that law on technicality isnt (correction wasnt until now) illegal per se, but neither it was "law abiding" because if you abide by the law, you wont try to break it with a "gotcha" technicality
@@Asghaad the law is completely fucking useless. Anyone wanting to conceal a firearm is going to just do it. It's absolutely fucking useless at stopping it. This all should be required to be in a law as that at least takes time to change. Not just the ATF being fucking bipolar.
@@Asghaad The technicality should not have existed in the first place. Bypassing something that is itself a violation of our rights is not to be condemned. Would you not walk around a pile of shit on the sidewalk? Between the ATF circus and the EPA trying to take away a foundation of American culture the level of government overreach is not something we should be arguing semantics among ourselves about. They are tightening the noose and we are busy bitching about the rope being itchy.
@@Genesis23OPB unfortunately no, because the ATF is a crazy DM that does not allow critical success, and they still shoot the dog because they said so.
I got this reason off the gov website: "• Enhances public safety by reducing the criminal use of such firearms, which are easily concealable from the public and first responders." Criminals aren't going to give up their braces, are they? Removing the pistol brace makes the pistol even more concealable, so it's not really a feature in that regard.
actually in most cases criminals who do WANT to conceal something do give up the "brace"... and the barrel... Sawn off shotguns.. zip guns ect... palm sized .22's and .38's an such.. IF anything this just helps them lmao.
Lol I know none of this is funny but Biden just did this addressing us today about the hostage situation at the synagogue in Texas. In the same breath he says the terrorist obtain his gun illegally off of the streets but some times this kind of activity falls through the cracks. Even though we know that this is inevitably going to happen we still need to limit the rights of legal citizens to protect themselves from all the shit that falls through our cracks. Literally Joe Biden
Player: "Okay. I draw my revolver and-" DM: "How do you hold your revolver?" Player: "Uhm. I have both of my hands on the pistol grip and I'm kind of squared up to the target, knees bent a little like in one of those 1980s police training films." DM: "Roll a Wisdom saving throw." Player: "What? I'm not even in combat. Why do I need to roll a saving throw?" DM: "It'll make sense later. Just roll." Player: "Nat 1. Crap." DM: "Okay. Today is the day that the ATF decided that operating any pistol with two hands constitutes illegally converting it into an SBR. Someone saw the livestream of you shooting fire extinguishers out on the farm, reported you to the feds and a warrant has been issued for your arrest." Player: "This is why we never let you DM, Jerry. Steve never pulls this kind of crap when he runs a campaign."
Ok fine with removing the atf even if it's by force with our guns. If removing the atf at gunpoint is what the founding fathers would be begging us to do on their hands and knees if thy were still alive. The atf is literally a terrorist organization. They're anticonstitution. If they tell you they care about human rights they're lying. If they cared they wouldve made full autos legal decades ago. They hate free people and they love slaves. The atf belongs in guantanomo bay prison. If I was on charge id give.thwm a warning. They all have 24 hours to clean out their desks and gather their belongings and if they don't, life in prison for being an anti-human gun grabbing human enslaving piece of shit stain on humanity that deserves the electric chair so they can go burn in hell early
@@TheAnnoyingBoss more internet talk, unfortunately the second amendment doesn’t apply to people if they dont have the balls to make change happen. Thats the problem with our society
I'm british and my chances of owning anything other than shitty bolt gun are next to zero but I'm massively invested in US firearms legislation for some reason
During character creation for the ATF, they left their stats up to chance. For intelligence, they rolled a NAT 0. Because their proposal makes the entire military a felony.
EVERY BIT OF THOSE "EVIL" COSMETIC FEATURES TAKES ME BACK TO MY BOYSCOUT DAYS OF "SHARP KNIFE, SAFE KNIFE" like the things that would ultimately make the gun more accurate and therefore safer or more manageable are what they deem "dangerous"
They're scared of funky looking stuff more than funky looking people who lost their mind. Felons will never abide law anyways and this is hurting honest registered gun owner
New to the channel and am loving every sec of it but I think the best part of this video is at the end when you bring to the table "what can WE do about it" and actually supply a way to have our voices heard with the link you give to the assholes that are the reason this video is great. Thank you.
As a Dungeon Master, I feel slightly slighted by that “D&D Score Card” comment, Brandon. We Dungeon Masters put so much more time, effort, care, consideration, and love into our table’s regulations than any ATF declaration, bar none. And, I never ban firearms in my games. *Shall not be infringed* ,especially in fantasy.
Or you make it a plot point that the local dwarven gun manufacturer guild has been lobbying the local government to clamp down on firearms that use magical ammunition, which would help deal with an undead problem only for the group to find out that dwarven guild was in bed with the next upcoming big bad necromancer who promised the guild a spot in the empire once the necromancer takes over could be a pretty cool showdown with the group fighting/evading waves of undead and dwarven snipers as they try to warn the government of the conspiracy to coup, the best part is that it's just ridiculous enough that, if you wanted, you could have nobody believe the group setting up a bigger/crazier problem down the road
This stuff is very important to talk about when it comes around and I appreciate you taking the time to make this video, see if we had people in Germany doing what you're doing now the Nazis may have never been able to come to power and take the guns, and I would still have my family, so I thank you God bless you and you are always in my prayers !!!
Commentary that was submitted to the ATF: "Any and all changes must be passed through Congress. The ATF does not have governing powers and is only to be used as an "errand boy" agency for decisions made by Congress. Congress does not have authority to violate rights of people or their persons, or to violate or legislate anything that is abhorrent to the Constitution of these United States of America. The ATF therefore has no decision making authority when it comes to any standards or other legislative matters. Also the ATF is far more restricted by natural human rights and the US Constitution than is stated about Congress. Thank you for understanding the above, and remembering that you are my servants, is key to not being disbanded or all personnel fired because I feel unsafe with you as an agent(s). That being said I appreciate you coming to work as much as you do, even if I don't approve of your abilities to safely serve me."
@@MrRyumaru In order to do that we need exact dimensions on a lot of these points. This sheet is made so that whoever the fuck is in charge of your case can decide if they want your gun to be an sbr or not. "*Can't get loophole fucked if I just make up the rules as I go*" -ATF 2021
I love how none of these regulations are ever about public safety. Handgun with no rifling=bad. Silencer=bad. Going from a handgun to a rifle (TC Contender) okay. Going from Rifle to handgun=bad. Illegal to CC at Post Office. Perfectly legal to walk in with a firearm to mail. But the idea of a line in the sand is laughable given how many have been crossed so many times while we refuse to disturb our tranquility with holding the violators of our supreme law accountable. Those in authority who violate the source of their authority repudiate their authority ergo have no authority. ANY G-man that violates the Constitution loses all their authority.
Meanwhile NY's Rochester's anti-gun mayor (Lovely Warren) is married to a felon that was found in possession of firearms and crack/cocaine with intent to distribute in their house.
my email to my senator and congressman: The ATF with its new definitions of what makes a pistol brace legal is in direct violation of the law stating the ATF cannot change definitions on firearms and accessories , that has to be done by congress and the senate. ALL of Congress and the Senate need to reign in this rouge agency and make them comply with the law. for those that don't, know that all the law abiding gun owners across The US will be watching and seeing which members of both houses do in this situation and VOTE ACCORDINGLY, we are sick and tired of these members sitting back and letting crap like this slide, you work to protect our God given rights, do your job. And also the appointment of David Chipman to head the ATF cannot happen he is a radical anti-gunner and his "assault" weapon definition covers pretty much every sporting rifle in existence including a child's Ruger 10-22. his being involved with both Waco and the fast and furious scandals should of automatically barred him from appointment. The ATF needs to be made to follow the law, their new "definitions" point system for pistol braces makes nearly every rifle caliber pistol brace currently owned by law abiding citizens THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE ATF an illegal item and a felony to possess. example having any type of brace on your pistol and flip up sights makes your pistol into a SBR, felony to possess without a NFA tax stamp.if you put a light,sling and red dot optic on your pistol and it makes it over 110 ounces, bam its now an SBR and a felony. this crap needs to be stopped and stopped now. clear definitions need to be made and adhered to, not oh we can change our minds whenever we want, pistol braces or hell even a stock on a rifle caliber pistol don't make it any more lethal or any of that BS, it actually would make it harder to conceal which is what they should really be worried about. and when you respond, I want your exact opinion on this situation. not some generic form letter that a staff member writes saying thank you for your concern on this issue blah blah blah. I want to know what you plan to do about it. Don't be a Rhino, We The People are getting rid of them this election cycle.
In one way this could be a blessing . If the GOA sues after the rules goes into effect, they could get the NFA, either the short barreled rifle clause or the NFA act itself overturned. I think the chances that lawyers could find a text and history excuse for the rules highly unlikely under Bruen. As for the changes, Disabled Veterans would be highly effective spokespersons at the capital and every local TV news show against it.
The left: "Too many people are incarcerated in the United States" ATF: "lmao watch this" Edit: Holy smokes 1.3k likes, glad to see many like minded people out there.
@@StabbyJoe135 I mean too many are incarcerated. But that didn't y change the fact that the ATF is stupid and turning people into criminals by passing useless laws.
@@ZealothPL ... Shall not be infringed. More than 3 states DEMANDED the 2nd amendment be held tantamount for them to even consider joining the union. To infringe upon that right is to nullify their statehood. You want a second civil war? That's how you get it. Nullify the grounds that ratified them as a state.
IIRC the original NFA banned pistols, so when it was pointed out that one could cut down a rifle to make it more concealable, the SBR/SBS provision was added. Later the pistol ban was stripped out of the bill as too extreme, but the SBR/SBS provision was left behind.
ATF has lost their credibility and purpose and shall be shut down. (edit) We need to stop pretending the ATF has a say in what firearms we can or can't have. They don't have any authority over the 2A.
Government agencies have no business dictating what is law. Regulatory agencies should be only legally allowed to police and regulate what Congress has authorized is the law/regulation. As it stands now, the BATFE can just bypass Congress and do whatever the hell they feel like doing - actual laws be damned. Imagine if your local Sheriff could decide to come up with laws on the fly and enforce them as he sees fit. No one would stand for it. We shouldn't stand for it with the BATFE. Or any other regulatory agency. You do not get to make laws by bypassing Congress. Period.
“Sorry for a more serious video.” Dude, we need these kinds of videos to educate those who don’t know how to learn about these kinds of things, such as myself.
If it uses adjustable strap, jail If it has standard length of pull, jail If it has an adjustable buffer tube, jail If it shoots bullets, straight to jail If it has a lower receiver? Believe it or not, jail.
though i agree with you, technically telling you that a certain type of firearm isnt legal to own does not stop you from owning firearms, so long as you can buy a magless bolt action 22 short that weights 50 lbs and has no sights, your second amendment right has not been infringed the second amendment needs to be rewritten to say the government may not infringe upon the right of civilians to buy, own, and bear publicly, any firearm in any configuration
Even a buffer less BRN-180 without a brace at all would fulfill the prerequisites in section one so then you go through next sections effectively judging a piece of picatany rail
I am still confused how the atf can simply "reclassify" something you bought, where at the time, was legal under current law, and the reclassification now makes it illegal. The atf doesn't make laws.
They don't. They just release shit like this before ever getting congressional approval. They've reworded the same thing 50 times just to see if it'll get passed.
The point system is like a test where you fail and immediately go to jail unless you passed with 95%. Also, it counts for "tests" that you already passed previously because the rules have been revised and apply to everything now.
This is a serious problem that we have to talk about seriously! Its just disappointing how in every country are all just supporting criminals! And the worst thing about it is they can't even realise! If someone is a criminal and want's to break or already broke some laws there is nothing going to hold him/her back to break an other one and buy an illegal gun from a black marke without caring about points. So my disappointment is immeasurable and my year is ruined...Please keep on making awesome content and fight against this nosense shit! I am from Hungary and we have "Awesome " gun laws like this. Wish you good lunk from the other side of the ocean!
Imagine if the FDA could one day arbitrarily classify caffeine as a controlled substance without going through the legislative process I don't know seems kinda [redacted] to me
It's not as outlandish as you might think. Vitamin C is PRESCRIPTION only in some EU countries. Prison time for smuggling it, etc. Cheers. Edit: if they believe they can get away with it, they will do it. That is our government now, and has been for a long time.
Was just studying Constitution. Everyone should read up on Ex Post Facto: the ATF is in direct violation of this and Altas shrugs. “no man should be compelled to do what the laws do not require; nor to refrain from acts which the laws permit.” Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386 (1798), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court decided four important points of constitutional law.
@@nickabel8279 25 points = sentence to death by hanging (ropes can be reused and are thus cheaper than bullets, government efficiency is key lmao) for treason
Youd think with what they taught us in school we should. Dont they work for us? School was indoctrination, brainwashing, boy I regret not quitting. To bad most are drinking the Government koolaid because nothing will ever be done about all the tyranny that has enslaved us. Those TV programmed zombies actually think they're free!
@@fentanyljew9511 I know for a fact every single one of your guns has absolutely 0 real modifications to it especially modifications that would be deemed illegal. You're a glorified fudd
Yupp, pretty outrages.. Any SB Tactical brace, on an adjustable buffer tube. Is basically at 6 points from the beginning group, an they even sell a brace adjustment limiter.. So if they were to enforce this "rule," anyone not wanting to register their firearm as an sbr. Would have to either just install and use the "short pistol buffer tubes." With a little padding around it, which will get you acouple points lol.. An you can get the "non adjustable braces," that you could basically throw on and off in a second if it was needed. But not keeping it on regularly, as to not violate any rules that are "unlawful." Or you can just have the adjustable buffer tube, an take the brace off. An I guess maybe I misunderstood the rule on vertical foregrip, angled grips and hand stops.. They talk about a "vertical foregrip" as being 90° perpendicular to the barrel, which would get you 4 points. But if a angles "grip" or hand stop is 4 points, then that would be anything and everything aside from a little hand stop bump. Which is STILL 2 points, sodepending on what else that is grouped with in "accessories." Your over on points, I'm pretty sure anything on the firearm makes it over weight. Am wth so they mean any sight that allows or works with one handed shooting, when every other rule they are proposing is to prevent 2 handed use. To I thought encourage 1 handed use, an yet that rule is stating it shouldn't work with 1 handed firing..? WHAT ? "Presence of a scope or sight with eye relief, an capable of one handed firing.." Idk what they mean by "eye relief," but do they want people using one hand or 2 lol.. It's pretty much just them trying to make the point that, it's not a pistol. An of course the whole point is not even to go after just what they think should be registered as short barrel rifles or AR pistols, it's to force people into registering and tracking firearms. It's basically either pay the tax and register or an excuse to say people are breaking the law, to take the Right's away from as many people as possible. As they attempt to further restrict and confiscate firearms.
When Trump talked about banning bump stocks Sessions was the AG at the time and the DOJ initiated the ban. However, according to the NFA and other regulations already on the books, the ATF (or AFT…can’t remember now…) does not have the authority to regulate “firearm parts or accessories”, so the fact that they’re trying to do that here is a lot bigger than just the ridiculousness we read in the proposal itself, it means that a federal law enforcement agency now has the ability to make ppl criminals without congress, which Brandon already mentioned but it bears repeating, and deny us to right to be represented in congress. Ppl already tolerate executive order sprees that treat congress like it’s nothing more than a gaudy hood ornament, so it’ll be interesting to see where the line is-what’s “too far” for ppl. There’s one thing I can say for sure-this crap is incremental, and ppl suck at fighting incrementalism. By the time they realize they’ve been losing ground for decades it’s already too late, so every inch matters. It’s ALL crucial. But these jackwagons in government know that, so they start with “small things” that won’t get ppl riled up too much. I guarantee most gun owners out there are thinking “it’s just a pistol brace, so who cares? It’s not that big of a deal.” Inaccurate, it’s a huge deal. It’s not “what” these regulations will ban necessarily, that’s not the point, it’s the authority it grants to federal agencies to stomp on our rights bc the ppl we elect can’t do it directly, its a conflict of interest for sure when the cops can determine what makes someone a criminal, and it’s a loophole to get around legislation. Don’t want to require masks in your business and there’s no mandate? Ok then, we’ll send the health inspectors to shut you down. It’s not the “government” passing legislation to deprive you of your rights, it’s those ppl over there. Want to capture rain water from your own property for irrigation? Nope, the EPA decided that was a detriment to lakes and rivers so you can’t do that now either. The government has bypassed the legislative process-the process by which all Americans are represented in their government-for a long time now and it just keeps getting worse bc ppl don’t understand that everything matters, not just what personally effects them. What gets me the most is that ppl will throw a tantrum when the government wants to ban sugary drinks “because health costs”, but remain silent when it comes to shit like this. The silent majority better cultivate a backbone and pick up a mic, and they’d better do it soon, because this particular regulation is nothing-just a stepping stone.
I'm 99% sure this is literally just an attempt at a felony bingo card to infringe as many people's 2nd amendment rights as possible with as little work as possible.
Yes today it is the "pistol braces" and the 80%lowers. Tomorrow it will be all semiautomatic rifles, next the pistols/1911s,,,,,,,,,and they will NOT STOP until their is a 100% ban/confiscation!
Got lucky here in Montana, Gianforte signed a bill barring our police force and whatnot from enforcing federal gun laws, not sure how far this bill is going to cover but it's great
Last time I checked the constitution didn't say anything about an agency with the purpose of regulating firearms being in the enumerated powers of the federal government. Not sure why we're letting these people extra-legally dictate what firearms we can or cannot own
They were established to manage the NFA that was their initial purpose (and since tobacco and alcohol were already regulated but had no managing organization they tacked those things on as an afterthought.
much as anyone hates it, we must oppose every step on our rights. I'm tired, at 65, but I still carry, and it still matters. Simply telling the ATF, we are tired of their interference, and they are criminal in their refusal to follow the plain law, means they have to deal with another comment. We do have rights, they are constrained by law, and they are "public servants", we, at least, must remember that. Semper Fidelis, John McClain, GySgt, USMC, ret.
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Thanks for watching guys! Sorry for the more serious video, but I feel like this shit is super important to talk about.
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#AKGnotificationsquad yeetus
Love you
I don't know why you keep apologising for these, it's great that you keep us informed.
>ATF
>insane
that's extraordinarily redundant of you, Brandon.
Thank god I only buy black powder 🤠
Our guns don't need to have boating accidents. Politicians do.
Welcome to the watchlist to everyone who chuckled at this...
@@silvercenturion9940 Heh
Robespierre had the right idea on what to do with politicians and bureaucrats
Toilet with a shit
While I need to clarify up front that I'm not sticking up for politicians here, these draft regulations aren't produced in Congress, but within the ATF itself. In other words, it's administrators, not the politicians, against whom your ire should be directed here. To be fair, the senior post holders do have to have their positions confirmed by Congress, so they do need to take *some* of the blame, but this really isn't their party (no pun intended!).
Every time they push laws like this, they show their incompetence
They're not laws. They are opinions.
@@growlikethewind5788 well said
@@growlikethewind5788 true, but you know what I'm getting at
It isn’t incompetence. It is agenda
The atf really showed their incompetence during the davidian waco raid
Welp if owning a brace now puts me in the same class as owning an illegal full auto. I guess it’s time to convert all my guns into full auto....
why comply with the firearm laws if you’re gonna commit a crime?
videos folder why speak if you dont know what youre talking about
maybe then a much, much bigger charge and fines too?
@@nicholasfrancis2627 i mean, if you're committing an act in violation of the law, why follow one section of it if you're going to break the other?
@@scottmoldenhauer8908 i mean if the crime involves a firearm you're gonna lose your guns either way, might as well just break all of the firearms laws
When everyone is a criminal, it's easier for the average law-abiding citizen to justify doing criminal things.
i.e. Abolition, when every American said fuck the drinking law
Looks boys. With sbrs I just suggest storing the stock detached. That way they can never prove anything. Personally I should alone on my own land. So zero chance anyone would know.
I feel like the ATF just blindly throws darts at a wall of sticky notes with random ideas on them
Oh no that’s exactly what they do, except all of the ideas are bad.
Its ran by activists
- Oh no. They plan this shit. They absolutely want to take all guns from Americans for the purpose of oppression.
Isn’t this so “FUN”
they fire flechette (wrong spelling) at it
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
santiam sporting goods in gates, oregon is where you can buy all 3 in one store 🇺🇸
^this
You forgot explosives
This is a classic line! Put this on a T-shirt before i steal it:)
Turns out it's a terrorist organization.
"There's no new laws or anything, they just changed their fucking mind". Dude, I'm so glad that you not only understand the bullshit of that agency but that you actually are public about it and against it. Thank you. You reach far more people than I do.
What difference does it make?? They don't care about the law it's self,
because at the end of the Day, if they come to your house to rip the
Guns from your own hands, & show up with Military action against you??
They won't need a Gun Law to do so...
All they need is a word: "We're Coming For Your Guns"
kinda word...
You might be willing to fight a Government barging into your house,
but that don't mean your neighbors are gonna want to help defend you,
especially if the Government is after you, not them, & they might be
at risk themselves next, if they intervine...
"Roll a 10+ to not get your dog shot."
"But this is a D6."
"I know."
Law abiding citizens:
ATF: “too many people are obeying the law and supporting their constitutional rights. let’s make a bunch of them criminals for funsies.”
Funzies is a technical term
In essence yes, I concur.
law abiding would mean that if you want to own SBR you follow the law and use proper procedure to do so. bypassing that law on technicality isnt (correction wasnt until now) illegal per se, but neither it was "law abiding" because if you abide by the law, you wont try to break it with a "gotcha" technicality
@@Asghaad the law is completely fucking useless. Anyone wanting to conceal a firearm is going to just do it. It's absolutely fucking useless at stopping it. This all should be required to be in a law as that at least takes time to change. Not just the ATF being fucking bipolar.
@@Asghaad The technicality should not have existed in the first place. Bypassing something that is itself a violation of our rights is not to be condemned. Would you not walk around a pile of shit on the sidewalk? Between the ATF circus and the EPA trying to take away a foundation of American culture the level of government overreach is not something we should be arguing semantics among ourselves about. They are tightening the noose and we are busy bitching about the rope being itchy.
Brandon:"Roll a 10 or higher to not get your dog shot"
ATF: "But roll at disadvantage because we really like shooting dogs"
critical 20! does that mean my dog gets armor now?
@@Genesis23OPB I got a nat one, they magdumped fido
@@hurrikane3740 they must vaporize fido with an AT4
@@Genesis23OPB unfortunately no, because the ATF is a crazy DM that does not allow critical success, and they still shoot the dog because they said so.
the dice are just weighted
So, everything is illegal and all America is a felon. Good times.
Hey you can't generalize America like that only the honest gun owning Americans are now felons not those pussies who don't like guns
I literally have that same profile pic on my Facebook
Cant arrest the whole country
Wait... Ive seen this somewhere before..
*100% lawful according to the constitution. Stop listening to the unconstitutional government of 1871 and don't follow the 1878 constitution.*
I got this reason off the gov website: "• Enhances public safety by reducing the criminal use of such firearms, which are easily concealable from the public and first responders." Criminals aren't going to give up their braces, are they? Removing the pistol brace makes the pistol even more concealable, so it's not really a feature in that regard.
There you go applying "common sense" to "common sense gun control".
actually in most cases criminals who do WANT to conceal something do give up the "brace"... and the barrel... Sawn off shotguns.. zip guns ect... palm sized .22's and .38's an such.. IF anything this just helps them lmao.
Saturday night special
Lol I know none of this is funny but Biden just did this addressing us today about the hostage situation at the synagogue in Texas. In the same breath he says the terrorist obtain his gun illegally off of the streets but some times this kind of activity falls through the cracks. Even though we know that this is inevitably going to happen we still need to limit the rights of legal citizens to protect themselves from all the shit that falls through our cracks. Literally Joe Biden
Player: "Okay. I draw my revolver and-"
DM: "How do you hold your revolver?"
Player: "Uhm. I have both of my hands on the pistol grip and I'm kind of squared up to the target, knees bent a little like in one of those 1980s police training films."
DM: "Roll a Wisdom saving throw."
Player: "What? I'm not even in combat. Why do I need to roll a saving throw?"
DM: "It'll make sense later. Just roll."
Player: "Nat 1. Crap."
DM: "Okay. Today is the day that the ATF decided that operating any pistol with two hands constitutes illegally converting it into an SBR. Someone saw the livestream of you shooting fire extinguishers out on the farm, reported you to the feds and a warrant has been issued for your arrest."
Player: "This is why we never let you DM, Jerry. Steve never pulls this kind of crap when he runs a campaign."
Stupid Jerry....
We play D&D to escape reality man. Don't do this to us
Woah Is This The Salesman?
It kinda impressed me how you knew the proper order of operations and type of dialogue between a DM and a player.
Dammitt Jerry
Removing the strap: 4 pts
Removing the ATF: priceless
Ok fine with removing the atf even if it's by force with our guns. If removing the atf at gunpoint is what the founding fathers would be begging us to do on their hands and knees if thy were still alive.
The atf is literally a terrorist organization. They're anticonstitution. If they tell you they care about human rights they're lying. If they cared they wouldve made full autos legal decades ago. They hate free people and they love slaves. The atf belongs in guantanomo bay prison.
If I was on charge id give.thwm a warning. They all have 24 hours to clean out their desks and gather their belongings and if they don't, life in prison for being an anti-human gun grabbing human enslaving piece of shit stain on humanity that deserves the electric chair so they can go burn in hell early
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Legislative branch created them. Best the prez could do is maybe defund or give them some orders
@@TheAnnoyingBoss more internet talk, unfortunately the second amendment doesn’t apply to people if they dont have the balls to make change happen. Thats the problem with our society
@@TheAnnoyingBoss take your meds
@@cyriously_nick2191 yup
not even an American, can't legally own a gun but this still enrages me lol
I'm british and my chances of owning anything other than shitty bolt gun are next to zero but I'm massively invested in US firearms legislation for some reason
@@taxevasion4870 you should move over here we would be glad to welcome you;)
During character creation for the ATF, they left their stats up to chance. For intelligence, they rolled a NAT 0.
Because their proposal makes the entire military a felony.
Actually, they wouldve rolled a -3.
Americans: *Being Americans *
ATF: Wait, that's illegal.
I wish the Wunderwaffe DG-2 was real I'd love to see the ATF steal that from me😏🤫
@Ferox Tinez Your Gestapo ARE lovely
ATF: *tries to act as judge, jury, and executioner*
Americans: Wait, that's illegal.
I feel like the shovel handle AK might actually be legal…
@@toyotaecw It's fixed, so no
Even if you “pass” the points system, they included a line that says they can still determine it to be an sbr. It’s literally a no-win situation.
"Just in case we're wrong, we're right"
They determine they’re still right in the end by Waco’ing your ass and shooting your dog
You're not breaking any laws but we don't like what you're doing so we can and will make you a felon anyway.
So, what you're saying is... Their new ruling is unconstitutional.
@@hmmmmmmm69 Certainly fucking seems like it.
So, to continue with the D&D reference: They're going to turn all gun owners into min-maxers?
Oh no😆
When every player must become a gunslinging rogue….
@@Wulfie. Percy has screamed somewhere.
Honestly man I love this type of content. Get the message out there and have something we can actually do in the end... great work
“It’s dangerous because it’s short”
5’6” dude’s: *My time has come*
Damn right we're dangerous. We are concealable. 😉
5'2 ft tall here
is 5'11 short
Thank lord I’m 5,6 1/2 😅😂
@@davidjones341 I’m 5’4” and I though that *I* was short
"with this one screw, I can turn this firearm, into a felony."
-TheRussianBadger
I did the same with a BB gun in the uk by accident. Had to break the gun apart and get rid of it. 🤷♂️ crazy
Well if it is already a felony, might as well break out the drill and really make it a felony.
Lmao saw that vid the other day
@S lol
The Russian badger really needs to collaborate with a gun dude like donut or Brandon or baddie I need badger gun footage
EVERY BIT OF THOSE "EVIL" COSMETIC FEATURES TAKES ME BACK TO MY BOYSCOUT DAYS OF "SHARP KNIFE, SAFE KNIFE" like the things that would ultimately make the gun more accurate and therefore safer or more manageable are what they deem "dangerous"
GREAT video. thanks for taking time to take care of fellow enthusiasts!
“The more comfy and cool it is, the more lethal and dangerous it is”
They're scared of funky looking stuff more than funky looking people who lost their mind.
Felons will never abide law anyways and this is hurting honest registered gun owner
This is proof flesh light braces are the future
"LOOK OUT HE'S GOT A BEANBAG CHAIR WITH SPEAKERS IN IT!!!"
The more we like them the more dangerous it is.
*fleshlight stock*
ATF: Weapon has sights
Gives points
Weapon has no sights
Gives same points
I'm glad someone else caught the AUTOMATIC 1 point for "sight or no sight"
Only have a front iron sight and no optic I guess
No thats just a wild spot on their bingo card of how many life sentences you will serve.
@@jhavisto Yet another reason this is a bill and not a actual law and never will make it that far.
Small woman with short rifle: "Please stop harassing me."
Large man with long rifle: "I'm not, I'm arresting you, and ruining your life."
"Me and my boys would be stacking bodies by now"
-George Washington (probably)
*Note this is a joke don't go shoot people
Unless they have alphabet jackets
Probably not wise to post this you might get visit from the ATF
@@markhusseymh1 oh no! How dare someone use another constitutional right like free speech!
Cursed gun images is going to become people trying to build guns that fit in this list
You mean checking every box in the list?
@@TheRibbonRed I'm screwed lol
I'd like to see that 😏
“We The People” should make complying with the ATF a felony
@@SimplyTheSloth I think Missouri pretty much did
ah yes mr. vector
Pretty sure it kinda is (according to Our Founding Fathers).. I believe its called tyranny..
Hard disagree, my dude. The ATF should be a retail outlet.
The ATF illegally trying to legislate should be a felony.
New to the channel and am loving every sec of it but I think the best part of this video is at the end when you bring to the table "what can WE do about it" and actually supply a way to have our voices heard with the link you give to the assholes that are the reason this video is great. Thank you.
Thank you bringing this up.
i see this chart as a new gun system. "dude, how many points is your gun?" "bro. i think it's a 27. i think i can get it to a 36."
Now i want to print that out JUST to see what all i could buy legally parts wise, to make it as illegal as possible.
Imma print it so I can try to get a high score
Gun game lol
It's practically COD BO II customization.
Some idiots will type thier stats on the internet! Lol smh
As a Dungeon Master, I feel slightly slighted by that “D&D Score Card” comment, Brandon.
We Dungeon Masters put so much more time, effort, care, consideration, and love into our table’s regulations than any ATF declaration, bar none.
And, I never ban firearms in my games. *Shall not be infringed* ,especially in fantasy.
ATF Agent: ... sorry I wasn't paying attention. I roll to attack...
D20: CRIT.
ATF Agent: Nice. What am I attacking? Oh? A dog... DIE SNUFFLES!
Or you make it a plot point that the local dwarven gun manufacturer guild has been lobbying the local government to clamp down on firearms that use magical ammunition, which would help deal with an undead problem only for the group to find out that dwarven guild was in bed with the next upcoming big bad necromancer who promised the guild a spot in the empire once the necromancer takes over
could be a pretty cool showdown with the group fighting/evading waves of undead and dwarven snipers as they try to warn the government of the conspiracy to coup, the best part is that it's just ridiculous enough that, if you wanted, you could have nobody believe the group setting up a bigger/crazier problem down the road
Home owener rolls 18 with +3 for legal challenge before judge Benitez in law suet for sniffles
@@UmbraPsi I'm fucking stealing this for my next game.
Either way both suck and are losers.
This stuff is very important to talk about when it comes around and I appreciate you taking the time to make this video, see if we had people in Germany doing what you're doing now the Nazis may have never been able to come to power and take the guns, and I would still have my family, so I thank you God bless you and you are always in my prayers !!!
Commentary that was submitted to the ATF:
"Any and all changes must be passed through Congress. The ATF does not have governing powers and is only to be used as an "errand boy" agency for decisions made by Congress. Congress does not have authority to violate rights of people or their persons, or to violate or legislate anything that is abhorrent to the Constitution of these United States of America. The ATF therefore has no decision making authority when it comes to any standards or other legislative matters. Also the ATF is far more restricted by natural human rights and the US Constitution than is stated about Congress. Thank you for understanding the above, and remembering that you are my servants, is key to not being disbanded or all personnel fired because I feel unsafe with you as an agent(s). That being said I appreciate you coming to work as much as you do, even if I don't approve of your abilities to safely serve me."
Them: No one is coming for your guns.
ATF: We actually are coming for your guns.
ATF: Tonight...your dog...
@@TheRibbonRed wow😑🤦🏻♂️😒
wow😑🤦🏻♂️😒
Patriots: come and get em.
They can try
Constitution: "..shall not be infringed."
ATF: "hold my white claw...."
George Washington: *BFG DIVISION starts playing*
Oh please, it's the ATF. "Hold my Cocaine"
ATF:*SCREAMS IN GESTAPO 2.0*
Also 5th amendment since vague laws violate right to due process
@@Turalcar Due process is white supremacy.
Great video sir! ATF is full of it.
Subbed!
Thanks for the link! Submitted my comment... and by the end I requested them to just remove SBRs from the list lol.
ATF: You are breaking the law.
Gun Owners: You are breaking the Constitution.
Not according to the SCOTUS.
@@sundoga4961 scotus isn't the law of the land either
@@sundoga4961 Which in itself showcases that tyranny is rampant in every sector of our government & needs to be purged
@@theconstitutionalconservat3957 Well, yeah, it is, actually.
@@apunishedmannamed2473 Easy to say. At this point, I would say impossible to achieve. There is no major popular support.
Trying to shoot for the most points cause I'm an over achiever.
I think we should go the other way. Make a "Totally not SBR" that complies with all of these rules. Malicious compliance.
@@MrRyumaru In order to do that we need exact dimensions on a lot of these points. This sheet is made so that whoever the fuck is in charge of your case can decide if they want your gun to be an sbr or not. "*Can't get loophole fucked if I just make up the rules as I go*" -ATF 2021
Bro out here playing golf with the ATF chart 💀
This is why we love playing golf with you Tim
@@MrRyumaru add a velcro nylon strap to a flux raider and maybe you get there?
Filed…. Thank you for all your videos keep up the awesome work 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I love how none of these regulations are ever about public safety. Handgun with no rifling=bad. Silencer=bad. Going from a handgun to a rifle (TC Contender) okay. Going from Rifle to handgun=bad. Illegal to CC at Post Office. Perfectly legal to walk in with a firearm to mail.
But the idea of a line in the sand is laughable given how many have been crossed so many times while we refuse to disturb our tranquility with holding the violators of our supreme law accountable. Those in authority who violate the source of their authority repudiate their authority ergo have no authority. ANY G-man that violates the Constitution loses all their authority.
When the director of the ATF wants firearms to be illegal, you should expect shit like this.
Gun ownership in America has become an awful gameshow of “Who Wants To Be Felon”
Felons can't vote against democrats
If everyone is a felon, then no one's a felon.
Hence why I just give the atf a big “fuck you” and don’t care
@Edward Warwick sounds like fun and disease inducing. But alcohol is alcohol, regardless how you make it
Meanwhile NY's Rochester's anti-gun mayor (Lovely Warren) is married to a felon that was found in possession of firearms and crack/cocaine with intent to distribute in their house.
my email to my senator and congressman: The ATF with its new definitions of what makes a pistol brace legal is in direct violation of the law stating the ATF cannot change definitions on firearms and accessories , that has to be done by congress and the senate. ALL of Congress and the Senate need to reign in this rouge agency and make them comply with the law. for those that don't, know that all the law abiding gun owners across The US will be watching and seeing which members of both houses do in this situation and VOTE ACCORDINGLY, we are sick and tired of these members sitting back and letting crap like this slide, you work to protect our God given rights, do your job.
And also the appointment of David Chipman to head the ATF cannot happen he is a radical anti-gunner and his "assault" weapon definition covers pretty much every sporting rifle in existence including a child's Ruger 10-22. his being involved with both Waco and the fast and furious scandals should of automatically barred him from appointment.
The ATF needs to be made to follow the law, their new "definitions" point system for pistol braces makes nearly every rifle caliber pistol brace currently owned by law abiding citizens THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE ATF an illegal item and a felony to possess. example having any type of brace on your pistol and flip up sights makes your pistol into a SBR, felony to possess without a NFA tax stamp.if you put a light,sling and red dot optic on your pistol and it makes it over 110 ounces, bam its now an SBR and a felony. this crap needs to be stopped and stopped now. clear definitions need to be made and adhered to, not oh we can change our minds whenever we want, pistol braces or hell even a stock on a rifle caliber pistol don't make it any more lethal or any of that BS, it actually would make it harder to conceal which is what they should really be worried about.
and when you respond, I want your exact opinion on this situation. not some generic form letter that a staff member writes saying thank you for your concern on this issue blah blah blah. I want to know what you plan to do about it.
Don't be a Rhino, We The People are getting rid of them this election cycle.
In one way this could be a blessing . If the GOA sues after the rules goes into effect, they could get the NFA, either the short barreled rifle clause or the NFA act itself overturned. I think the chances that lawyers could find a text and history excuse for the rules highly unlikely under Bruen. As for the changes, Disabled Veterans would be highly effective spokespersons at the capital and every local TV news show against it.
The left: "Too many people are incarcerated in the United States"
ATF: "lmao watch this"
Edit: Holy smokes 1.3k likes, glad to see many like minded people out there.
Not sure if it's too soon, but it's the ATF... can't be in prison if you're dead #WACO
@@StabbyJoe135 I mean too many are incarcerated. But that didn't y change the fact that the ATF is stupid and turning people into criminals by passing useless laws.
The right : "just obey the law!"
it's not hard not to make obviously illegal SBR "pistols"
@@ZealothPL “obviously illegal” umm name the law?
@@ZealothPL ... Shall not be infringed.
More than 3 states DEMANDED the 2nd amendment be held tantamount for them to even consider joining the union. To infringe upon that right is to nullify their statehood. You want a second civil war? That's how you get it. Nullify the grounds that ratified them as a state.
everybody: worrying about becoming felons over night due to arbitrary rulings
me: trying to get the all time high score of the ATF score sheet
as an Asian, I legally cannot get low score or risk being the disappointment to my parents, so you got stiff competition
i think my ak holds the record currently. good luck! 😭😬
@@holeeshi9959 oh it's on!
Lol, the absurdity. Think of all the kids lives that will be saved by this score sheet! Heaven help us
based
IIRC the original NFA banned pistols, so when it was pointed out that one could cut down a rifle to make it more concealable, the SBR/SBS provision was added.
Later the pistol ban was stripped out of the bill as too extreme, but the SBR/SBS provision was left behind.
Seems like a fun checklist.
ATF has lost their credibility and purpose and shall be shut down.
(edit) We need to stop pretending the ATF has a say in what firearms we can or can't have. They don't have any authority over the 2A.
exactly disregard all infringements
I heard if they implement this that they would free of charge transfer ur pistol to a sbr. Without paying the 200 tax stamp is this correct?
@@coopereckhardt1952 its not about the $200
tomboy supremacist it’s about tracking you which is why I didn’t do the free sbr form the first time
Government agencies have no business dictating what is law. Regulatory agencies should be only legally allowed to police and regulate what Congress has authorized is the law/regulation. As it stands now, the BATFE can just bypass Congress and do whatever the hell they feel like doing - actual laws be damned. Imagine if your local Sheriff could decide to come up with laws on the fly and enforce them as he sees fit. No one would stand for it. We shouldn't stand for it with the BATFE. Or any other regulatory agency. You do not get to make laws by bypassing Congress. Period.
Atf: makes braced pistols an sbr
-Number of sbrs are now in the dozens of millions
-sbrs become classified as common use
-sbrs come off the NFA
4D chess
That needs to be pushed hard
An actual galaxy brain take over here get this comment pinned to the top
Literally buying a brace this weekend for the 10/22 compact I haven’t even bought yet just because of this video
Super important!
This thing is the definition of “arbitrary and capricious.“
“Sorry for a more serious video.” Dude, we need these kinds of videos to educate those who don’t know how to learn about these kinds of things, such as myself.
Basically every AR 🔫 on the market is now an SBR.
In NJ all adjustable stocks are illegal. The only way around it is to buy an “other firearm” from Troy which uses an adjustable pistol brace.
I’m trying to max mine out with the most points possible
easy just buy a 8” pistol AR and change the brace out with a stock and put a bipod foregrip on it with canted flip sights boom maxed out haha
We will bail you out lol gofundme lol
Isn't it good to have a high score?
It's like Call of Duty its gonna make your gun a destructive force if you bypass all those regulations... for arm braces...
I legit want to see a vid of someone outfitting a weapon that maxes out the most amounts of points possible.
ATF: If it uses a lower receiver... 30 points.
5.56 100 points
The ATF decides whether or not you are a felon based on a game of golf
You can't see it on the original document. But black guns automatically get 1 point. Bc ATF racisms
If it uses adjustable strap, jail
If it has standard length of pull, jail
If it has an adjustable buffer tube, jail
If it shoots bullets, straight to jail
If it has a lower receiver? Believe it or not, jail.
@@no-sadnomad8370 if they f with me.. FAIL
3:43
That just sums upthe entirety of the ATF
To be fair, every field agent I know has said “I’m not enforcing this shit, hell I own an illegal one too”
Still can’t figure out how the atf became a part of legislative branch.
Because the legislative branch lets them. Shifts the blame, they get what they want, its a win-win for those in power.
Hmmmmmm.....?
Our Congress is too lazy, corrupt and stupid.
This is what happens when people let their govt grow unchecked, especially over a century
We allowed them.
"Shall not be infringed" is not a suggestion. It is a directive.
but.. but.. but.. no amendment is absolute! we the people means we the government.. you know the thing! 😂😂 that damn aft..
Thank you Mr. Colin Noir
we had a saying in my family "Live and let live, anyone that cant deal with that take em outside and shoot the motherfucker" George Carlin
though i agree with you, technically telling you that a certain type of firearm isnt legal to own does not stop you from owning firearms, so long as you can buy a magless bolt action 22 short that weights 50 lbs and has no sights, your second amendment right has not been infringed
the second amendment needs to be rewritten to say the government may not infringe upon the right of civilians to buy, own, and bear publicly, any firearm in any configuration
@@AnthonyTrifoglio 😂
Even a buffer less BRN-180 without a brace at all would fulfill the prerequisites in section one so then you go through next sections effectively judging a piece of picatany rail
Good video Thanks
I am still confused how the atf can simply "reclassify" something you bought, where at the time, was legal under current law, and the reclassification now makes it illegal. The atf doesn't make laws.
I think you mean the “AFT”
They don't. They just release shit like this before ever getting congressional approval. They've reworded the same thing 50 times just to see if it'll get passed.
@@badkatrising3918 plus all they know is the lower receiver you bought 🤷♂️
Could be a good ex post facto argument for the courts to sort through… the downside is of corse that takes time
Try living in the UK where we've just had lever and delayed blowback rifles outright banned!
Brandon: "Roll a 10 or higher to not get your dog shot"
AFT: "Here's a d8"
The AFT
Sorry man here ya go *d2
I shit you not when he said that in my mind I said "I'd probably only be allowed to roll a D8 " hahaha
@@chaosnightravngaming88 Well, that's just a coin.
F the aft
The point system is like a test where you fail and immediately go to jail unless you passed with 95%. Also, it counts for "tests" that you already passed previously because the rules have been revised and apply to everything now.
As a new subscriber, the dead dog jokes are amazing
ATF after they failed to ban braces
"Im gonna fuckin do it again"
Except they are trying a lot harder to make it worse
goofys trial reference?
I think the supreme court is going to protect us. Or states like Texas are just going to ignore the regulations and become 2A sanctuaries.
@@mattjessen4423 or like Missouri where state police are not allowed to enforce federal gun laws
@@johnnyjay102 Mississippi, too. We passed something saying we wouldn't enforce any new bans on guns or ammo.
The ATF makes determinations like legislatures do. This is a clear overstep of the executive branch.
If this passes, I may have to fish mine out of that lake from that boating accident & try my chances in Canada
All of your toys are even more illegal in Canada.
This is a serious problem that we have to talk about seriously! Its just disappointing how in every country are all just supporting criminals! And the worst thing about it is they can't even realise! If someone is a criminal and want's to break or already broke some laws there is nothing going to hold him/her back to break an other one and buy an illegal gun from a black marke without caring about points. So my disappointment is immeasurable and my year is ruined...Please keep on making awesome content and fight against this nosense shit! I am from Hungary and we have "Awesome " gun laws like this. Wish you good lunk from the other side of the ocean!
Imagine if the FDA could one day arbitrarily classify caffeine as a controlled substance without going through the legislative process
I don't know seems kinda [redacted] to me
Please post this on the comments thing for the ATF
Dont give them any more ideas
It's not as outlandish as you might think. Vitamin C is PRESCRIPTION only in some EU countries. Prison time for smuggling it, etc. Cheers. Edit: if they believe they can get away with it, they will do it. That is our government now, and has been for a long time.
@@garrett3117 I mean that's when you start another French revolution and let heads roll.
I mean, caffeine is basically an unregulated drug. But it's pretty much harmless in normal amounts.
Honestly, I'm more dissappointed in my government than I was afraid of the Russians back in the 80s.
At least then it would be over in a flash.
@@kentlindal5422 that’s a good one
All I have to say is come and take it. Or try anyways. I don't own a pistol grip but now I'm gonna go buy some.
Was just studying Constitution. Everyone should read up on Ex Post Facto: the ATF is in direct violation of this and Altas shrugs. “no man should be compelled to do what the laws do not require; nor to refrain from acts which the laws permit.”
Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386 (1798), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court decided four important points of constitutional law.
Can we get a similar point system for determining whether or not a federal agency is unconstitutional?
Yes. 10 point limit. If they suggest a law against the constitution, 25 points. If they attempt to follow through, 100 points
That would actually be a good idea before this country does the final twist down the toilet bowl
@@nickabel8279 25 points = sentence to death by hanging (ropes can be reused and are thus cheaper than bullets, government efficiency is key lmao) for treason
Youd think with what they taught us in school we should. Dont they work for us? School was indoctrination, brainwashing, boy I regret not quitting. To bad most are drinking the Government koolaid because nothing will ever be done about all the tyranny that has enslaved us. Those TV programmed zombies actually think they're free!
The ATF; repealing the second amendment one arbitrary rule at a time
Sounds like that if I use a two-handed grip on my pistol I might be using an SBR.
this scorecard is like a tarkov quest for the mechanic.
"shall not be infringed"
atf: "every gun is illegal but we're not infringing on your rights"
Well according to the new director he isn't really aware what a gun is in the first place, so idk.
@@DancerVeiled a gunis uuhhhh like maybe uh like umm it like shoots and uhh
@@DancerVeiled but how does he not know what a gun is? Didnt he use them to shoot children at Waco?
Might as well convert everything to full auto since the penalty for having a arm brace is the same as owning a machine gun.
Imagine complying with unconstitutional decrees 😂😆
@@fentanyljew9511 I know for a fact every single one of your guns has absolutely 0 real modifications to it especially modifications that would be deemed illegal. You're a glorified fudd
Yupp, pretty outrages.. Any SB Tactical brace, on an adjustable buffer tube. Is basically at 6 points from the beginning group, an they even sell a brace adjustment limiter.. So if they were to enforce this "rule," anyone not wanting to register their firearm as an sbr. Would have to either just install and use the "short pistol buffer tubes." With a little padding around it, which will get you acouple points lol.. An you can get the "non adjustable braces," that you could basically throw on and off in a second if it was needed. But not keeping it on regularly, as to not violate any rules that are "unlawful."
Or you can just have the adjustable buffer tube, an take the brace off. An I guess maybe I misunderstood the rule on vertical foregrip, angled grips and hand stops.. They talk about a "vertical foregrip" as being 90° perpendicular to the barrel, which would get you 4 points. But if a angles "grip" or hand stop is 4 points, then that would be anything and everything aside from a little hand stop bump. Which is STILL 2 points, sodepending on what else that is grouped with in "accessories." Your over on points, I'm pretty sure anything on the firearm makes it over weight.
Am wth so they mean any sight that allows or works with one handed shooting, when every other rule they are proposing is to prevent 2 handed use. To I thought encourage 1 handed use, an yet that rule is stating it shouldn't work with 1 handed firing..? WHAT ?
"Presence of a scope or sight with eye relief, an capable of one handed firing.."
Idk what they mean by "eye relief," but do they want people using one hand or 2 lol.. It's pretty much just them trying to make the point that, it's not a pistol.
An of course the whole point is not even to go after just what they think should be registered as short barrel rifles or AR pistols, it's to force people into registering and tracking firearms. It's basically either pay the tax and register or an excuse to say people are breaking the law, to take the Right's away from as many people as possible. As they attempt to further restrict and confiscate firearms.
When Trump talked about banning bump stocks Sessions was the AG at the time and the DOJ initiated the ban. However, according to the NFA and other regulations already on the books, the ATF (or AFT…can’t remember now…) does not have the authority to regulate “firearm parts or accessories”, so the fact that they’re trying to do that here is a lot bigger than just the ridiculousness we read in the proposal itself, it means that a federal law enforcement agency now has the ability to make ppl criminals without congress, which Brandon already mentioned but it bears repeating, and deny us to right to be represented in congress. Ppl already tolerate executive order sprees that treat congress like it’s nothing more than a gaudy hood ornament, so it’ll be interesting to see where the line is-what’s “too far” for ppl. There’s one thing I can say for sure-this crap is incremental, and ppl suck at fighting incrementalism. By the time they realize they’ve been losing ground for decades it’s already too late, so every inch matters. It’s ALL crucial. But these jackwagons in government know that, so they start with “small things” that won’t get ppl riled up too much. I guarantee most gun owners out there are thinking “it’s just a pistol brace, so who cares? It’s not that big of a deal.” Inaccurate, it’s a huge deal. It’s not “what” these regulations will ban necessarily, that’s not the point, it’s the authority it grants to federal agencies to stomp on our rights bc the ppl we elect can’t do it directly, its a conflict of interest for sure when the cops can determine what makes someone a criminal, and it’s a loophole to get around legislation. Don’t want to require masks in your business and there’s no mandate? Ok then, we’ll send the health inspectors to shut you down. It’s not the “government” passing legislation to deprive you of your rights, it’s those ppl over there. Want to capture rain water from your own property for irrigation? Nope, the EPA decided that was a detriment to lakes and rivers so you can’t do that now either. The government has bypassed the legislative process-the process by which all Americans are represented in their government-for a long time now and it just keeps getting worse bc ppl don’t understand that everything matters, not just what personally effects them. What gets me the most is that ppl will throw a tantrum when the government wants to ban sugary drinks “because health costs”, but remain silent when it comes to shit like this. The silent majority better cultivate a backbone and pick up a mic, and they’d better do it soon, because this particular regulation is nothing-just a stepping stone.
God that was long. I really didn’t mean for that to turn into a monologue, but there it is.
I'm 99% sure this is literally just an attempt at a felony bingo card to infringe as many people's 2nd amendment rights as possible with as little work as possible.
which means as a united states government agency they have failed
And to make money by charging 200 dollar tax stamp.
Yes today it is the "pistol braces" and the 80%lowers. Tomorrow it will be all semiautomatic rifles, next the pistols/1911s,,,,,,,,,and they will NOT STOP until their is a 100% ban/confiscation!
@@markasteelsr.5990 yea we gotta draw a line in the sand
@@dorianleclair7390 revolutionary war #2
Me: "Why are they doing this?"
ATF: "Because it's Tuesday"
Friday.
Is this a Soviet Womble reference?
Got lucky here in Montana, Gianforte signed a bill barring our police force and whatnot from enforcing federal gun laws, not sure how far this bill is going to cover but it's great
We’re all on a watchlist now.
A gathering of ravens is an unkindness.
A gathering of ferrets is a business.
A gathering of Feds is an infringement.
A gathering of baboons is a congress I believe. Makes perfect sense.
The ATF is like montana weather, it never knows what it wants to be
Same with Colorado Weather
And Florida
Same with the Texas Panhandle.
Willamette valley in Oregon weather.
@Juden Shekelberger What makes Alabama not gun friendly
I'm so glad the atf came up with these new laws! It will surely stop each and every criminal in their tracks!
I feel a revolution building up
Last time I checked the constitution didn't say anything about an agency with the purpose of regulating firearms being in the enumerated powers of the federal government. Not sure why we're letting these people extra-legally dictate what firearms we can or cannot own
They were established to manage the NFA that was their initial purpose (and since tobacco and alcohol were already regulated but had no managing organization they tacked those things on as an afterthought.
"It's dangerous because it's short."
Hear that little buddy? :)
*yOu CrAck mE uP LitTle BuDdY*
Yep because it puts you at a tactical advantage.
n o c h I l d r e n f o r h I m
much as anyone hates it, we must oppose every step on our rights. I'm tired, at 65, but I still carry, and it still matters. Simply telling the ATF, we are tired of their interference, and they are criminal in their refusal to follow the plain law, means they have to deal with another comment. We do have rights, they are constrained by law, and they are "public servants", we, at least, must remember that. Semper Fidelis, John McClain, GySgt, USMC, ret.