Hey y'all! Go check out Aimee Nolte's class over on 🚀Nebula Classes! $10/month. nebulaclasses.com/adamneely Also go check us out on tour. www.songkick.com/artists/8469503-sungazer
How you doing Adam, got a question seen an article written by a Dr. Diamond years ago he talked about an “anapestic beat destroying the cerebrum of the brain”, making muscle weak in one of his studies. What is an anapestic beat from your knowledge, is it just in Rock music, and are you familiar with this Doctor’s studies?
I think it took me more than a month to learn the left side against the right side thing for "Bird on the wing" and could not play it as tight as I wanted ^^ th-cam.com/video/Li1G3EogGj0/w-d-xo.html
Paul Rennick with Santa Clara Vanguard has put similar minded stuff on the field. Also, Boston Area Crusaders put a crazy tuplet-filled book on the field this year. Those two could definitely pull that off if it's possible. th-cam.com/video/bILFblpwYig/w-d-xo.html
thank you guys so much for sharing my threshold battery etude!! had a ton of fun exploring the boundaries of writing to such a unique and interesting piece. might have to get a vid of me playing through it when i get back from drum corps in a few weeks :)
Damn Adam honestly I wish I had learned your technique proper for doing the threshold line because when I did it it was super duper tough. I’ll absolutely give the two fingers per hand a try!
11:59 OMG that's me!!!! I cannot express the honor and happiness i'm feeling to be in this video. Thank you so much for the advice! I'm a beginner drummer and as soon as the song Macchina came out I started listening to it non-stop and trying to figure out the groove and the displacements (this was before Shawn's video on Meinl TH-cam page). Hope to one day be as good as he is; certainly a top 5 drummer in my list.
Blue Knights alumni here, it's honestly surreal hearing you shout out my drum corps! The drummers over at Blue Knights / Broken City could absolutely give that etude a shot, they're some of the best in the world! MFBK 💙
@@scvkurt03 I did not skip that part. It sounded like a computer performed that section. Good luck getting a fucking drum corp to not try out compensate (for their dick sizes) one another and actually play it correctly when unison. The fuck am I responding for.
This is cool. One thing that comes to mind is a guitarist from one of my favorite bands was talking about watching someone on TH-cam covering their song play one of his riffs differently than he did when he recorded it and he liked it that way better and started playing it like that live ever since.
I saw you guys live in Denver at the start of April. Seeing you guys was a dream come true, and I wanna thank you again for signing that drum head. I hope to see you guys again at some point.
Blue Knghts was also the 1st drum line that immediately came to mind for people who could play this. At least their lines from a few years ago. Their book had so many difficult substitute rhythms. In reality any top 8 line with the right techs could likely learn and clean this.
That midi drum part looks like something you could come across as a classical percussionist. Lots of contemporary creations are full of insane polyrhythmia and are almost impossible to play without hours of practice…
The Glynn Johns mic technique is an interesting one,that only requires 3 mics but man, it's nuts the way it works,so many big names have used it, it's definitely tried and true, also it would be very handy in a live set up where mics are at a premium,either way it's a good technique and it works very well!
Question for your next Q&A: How do you think instruments should be classified into their respective groups? i.e. strings, wind, percussion and so on. The commonly accepted method is to classify the instrument based on the way they produce their sound i.e. saxophone is a woodwind because the sound come from the reed, piano is a string/percussion instrument because a hammer strikes the string. I believe that this works but is confusing for some instruments like how a pipe organ is a wind instrument because of the pipes, yet is played through a keyboard like a piano. I believe that instruments should be classified by how they are played rather than how they produce sound. Your thoughts on this?.
Speaking of learning note-for-note what was originally improvised, the Guess Who originally improvised "American Woman" on the spot. They later decided that they wanted to record it, but they couldn't reproduce it in the studio. By an extreme bit of luck, someone in the audience had recorded the song on a very early portable casette recorder, and they were able to find it. In this case, their efforts at improvising the song again fell short, and they wound up learning what they had done before in order to be able to record it (although I am sure they made some further modifications to the song for the recording).
The bass split is something that I know that in high school I did, but the 6/7 and just general 19/16 time is something I know would take quite a bit for me to even parse fully
This time I got it! Just bought 5 tickets to see you guys in Paris (yeah I take a lot of space). It's gonna be more convenient than flying to Berlin like we did in June (I would do it again though).
That marching band drums one was really cool, but I mistook it for taiko drums at first and now I just want to hear a taiko drums version of that song.
This really demonstrates that no matter how incredible you are on your instrument, some kid on the internet can copy you perfectly. Which could be disheartening but to me just reinforces that the important part is the composition and performance, not your crazy solo chops.
Blue Knights are some solid players, but I'd go with Bluecoats as they have Thank You Scientist in their repertoire. Santa Clara Vanguard are also ridiculously good at utilizing songs you wouldn't expect. I think some of it may be too crazy to play but they would get pretty darn close.
Definitely advise looking to the SoCal drumline community if you're interested in working on applying these sounds to your music. A lot of cats down there including myself are really starting to step into branching out the style, and your kind of music is prime real estate. A lot of contacts within SoCal WGI groups happen to be involved with the upcoming scene of branching out the activity into other genres. It's coming up and worth looking into for sure
Hartford MIGHT be close enough. Wish I was closer to a city. That should be a good stretch of shows for y'all - no need to get on an airplane, and guests might be willing to ride between the NY, Hartford and Boston shows. It'll be getting into flu season here by then, so I'll cross my fingers that this tour won't be impacted much, in that way. Good luck.
@@wingracer1614 Find the sheet music, then give them to the guitar robot guy (Morusque), if you sleep next to it, it will endlessly restart the songs, but once you get up and it finishes, you can only make it play the songs once you found all 8 sheet music. Some good vibes in this game, I love it
@@yegddd He posted on Instagram from Ft. Collins during rehearsal and then the DATR show. I think it was a story or one of those things that disappears.
If anyone feels intimidated by the last 9:7 or 6:7 parts, don't To break it down, the song is written as 19/16 (Although the feel is 4/4) so you got the sixteenths subdivided as: 6+6+(4+3), or 6+6+7 = 19 So, 6:7 polyrhythm is just stating to play 6 notes where there would be 7, pretty much like 6+6+6 (the last 6 is technically a little slower, but pretty much unnoticeable) In the same way 9:7 would be 6+6+9 Or 6+6+(3+3+3). For that you just squeeze groupings of 3, like RLL
@@zachdrumfield Well fark mate that was just downright nuttier than squirrel shit, VERY impressive,my head still hurts from reading it, awesome stuff, now Play it!😂🎼🎵🎶🎹🎚️🎛️
When Frank Zappa released "G Spot Tornado" 1986 I though it's obvious why he programmed it on a Synclavier: it's impossible for humans to play it. A few years later, he said in an interview "maybe it would be good for the improvement of the German society if people where forced to dance to G-Spot Tornado. I thought this joke was very funny. In 1992 he had the Ensemble Modern playing G-Spot Tornado live (no synthesizers or computers) and La La La Human Steps dancing to it. I will never say that something is impossible to play for humans.
I thought a lot of stuff on “hand played” piano rolls was physically impossible (well, some of it is, but I don’t mean the actual added parts or doubled parts), and then I heard first Tom Brier, then Frederick Hodges playing like this live, and figured they were doing something novel. Then I heard old audio recordings of piano roll legends Frank Banta, Pete Wendling and Ray Perkins absolutely slaying and I realized they really DID play like that and I shut the hell up and started practicing.
Hey y'all! Go check out Aimee Nolte's class over on 🚀Nebula Classes! $10/month.
nebulaclasses.com/adamneely
Also go check us out on tour.
www.songkick.com/artists/8469503-sungazer
"Raising Arizona" theme... in Quints.
...uhh, I mean, quintuplets. ✌💗🤘
That was a pretty abrupt cut at the end of the video friend x.x
Can you attach a link for Aimee's class? Thanks!
YAY YOU FEATURED BASS DRUM IN ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS THIS IS A WIN
How you doing Adam, got a question seen an article written by a Dr. Diamond years ago he talked about an “anapestic beat destroying the cerebrum of the brain”, making muscle weak in one of his studies. What is an anapestic beat from your knowledge, is it just in Rock music, and are you familiar with this Doctor’s studies?
That anyone would take the time to learn my drum parts is the biggest compliment ever. Thanks y’all and great performances from everyone!
Trust us, you *are* worthy
got you mistaken for B-front
I'm literally Worthy
I think it took me more than a month to learn the left side against the right side thing for "Bird on the wing" and could not play it as tight as I wanted ^^ th-cam.com/video/Li1G3EogGj0/w-d-xo.html
Paul Rennick with Santa Clara Vanguard has put similar minded stuff on the field. Also, Boston Area Crusaders put a crazy tuplet-filled book on the field this year. Those two could definitely pull that off if it's possible. th-cam.com/video/bILFblpwYig/w-d-xo.html
"play it faster and with drums" words to live by
singer-songwriters hate this trick
twoset will be hearing about this
right up there with 'make sure the synth and the vocals are in the same key"
These are words to live by
@@flops0317 "That thing you do" summary
thank you guys so much for sharing my threshold battery etude!! had a ton of fun exploring the boundaries of writing to such a unique and interesting piece. might have to get a vid of me playing through it when i get back from drum corps in a few weeks :)
you marched broken city right? threshold is the most broken city thing ever lol
@@jordanmiller1759 i did! glad you enjoyed the arrangement :)
Congrats, man. Very well done 👍
Where are you marching this year?
@@braydengarland7502 i’m finishing up my ageout summer with the bluecoats!
When Adam said he was distracted by the guitar in the background, I squinted my ears to no avail. Then I used my eyes, lol.
Haha, I did the same thing!
Saaaame🤣🤣
Damn Adam honestly I wish I had learned your technique proper for doing the threshold line because when I did it it was super duper tough. I’ll absolutely give the two fingers per hand a try!
Yo you shred tho!
👍🏻
Sometimes you just have to see something once to say "OH! Is THAT how it's done?"
shreddy af bro great job
Great to see a tiktok mutual in an Adam Neely Video!!
As a mainly a drumline guy, it’s funny seeing Adam looking at a hand-to-hand split and thinking it’s impossible
lmao same, I play bass 2 in my high school and just played some of these rudiments at band camp today
I wanna see him react to some DCI basslines now 🤣
@@gavinlively8151 i really hope he sees this, he would love the rhythms and teamwork of a bassline. Maybe it would be inspiring for him.
11:59 OMG that's me!!!! I cannot express the honor and happiness i'm feeling to be in this video. Thank you so much for the advice!
I'm a beginner drummer and as soon as the song Macchina came out I started listening to it non-stop and trying to figure out the groove and the displacements (this was before Shawn's video on Meinl TH-cam page). Hope to one day be as good as he is; certainly a top 5 drummer in my list.
Blue Knights alumni here, it's honestly surreal hearing you shout out my drum corps! The drummers over at Blue Knights / Broken City could absolutely give that etude a shot, they're some of the best in the world!
MFBK 💙
Hello fellow BK alum
Too late, Infinity already put threshold in their show this year lol, not the same arrangement tho
Marching percussion still gives me chills. I will always miss my marching band days.
Could always check out a DCA corps 😉 all-age competitive
Same!
Love seeing some drumline/drum corps appreciation and representation!
Appropriate that it's during the season too
FTR
yes!
14:07 it's not often we see Adam Neely dip into the marching arts music world really live to see it
I would kill to hear Sungazer's music arranged for marching band/drum corps.
Please don't kill.
Why ruin music?
@@mss11235 Sounds like you skipped that whole section.
@@scvkurt03 I did not skip that part. It sounded like a computer performed that section. Good luck getting a fucking drum corp to not try out compensate (for their dick sizes) one another and actually play it correctly when unison. The fuck am I responding for.
Dci sungazer would be awesome
thanks so much for featuring our arrangement in your video! the commentary was very entertaining.
I’m amazed at the standard of bedroom musicians out there. Kudos to you for helping raise the level of playing/understanding.
I challenge EMCProductions and the most talented WGI and DCI percussion ensembles to do it. I think they can totally pull it off.
@blue devils
th-cam.com/video/qVjag3uIlPY/w-d-xo.html
@@iceborg05 :/
The drumline bit could be a nice challenge for emc productions. He is crazy enough to attempt it.
How de we make EMC Productions see it though?
@EMCproductions
@@toomdog we can link this video in his comment section
Good Morning!
@emcproductions
15:35 this is indeed possible. And for a dci group? On par with the difficulty they're used to
Blue devils could probably get it down within a week and have it perfect within a month
@@lucasalfonso3546 fr tho
You guys with a full drum line and marching band sounds like one hell of an experience.
This is cool. One thing that comes to mind is a guitarist from one of my favorite bands was talking about watching someone on TH-cam covering their song play one of his riffs differently than he did when he recorded it and he liked it that way better and started playing it like that live ever since.
Out of interest, who is that artist? That’s really cool!
I remember Dean Lamb of Archspire mentioning this
Get EMCProductions in here. He might be able to pull that Threshold cover off, at least the tenor part since tenor drums are his main instrument.
He did today
This comment aged well
Hah, th-cam.com/video/qVjag3uIlPY/w-d-xo.html
All the drumline stuff is certainly playable by the top groups today. Cleaning it is another story ha
Now you know how the "old guard" like 'Trane and Bird must have felt when their improv solos were transcribed note for note.
If you want to see a drumline etude with some interesting time signatures executed irl, check out the Boston Crusaders playing Red's Rhumba.
Love seeing the appreciation for Mike Mangini and Virgil Donati. Both are crazy when it comes to drumming.
A drummer and a bass player mutually hating on guitar warms my heart.
I saw you guys live in Denver at the start of April. Seeing you guys was a dream come true, and I wanna thank you again for signing that drum head.
I hope to see you guys again at some point.
Blue Knghts was also the 1st drum line that immediately came to mind for people who could play this. At least their lines from a few years ago. Their book had so many difficult substitute rhythms. In reality any top 8 line with the right techs could likely learn and clean this.
16:30 i absolutely love Time, the drums give it such an awesome feel
Awee thanks for sharing our vid Adam!! My 15 year old self in that video is soooo sloppy so I appreciate the critique!!
That midi drum part looks like something you could come across as a classical percussionist. Lots of contemporary creations are full of insane polyrhythmia and are almost impossible to play without hours of practice…
The MIDI piece is doing my head in, there's just so much going on 🤯
The Glynn Johns mic technique is an interesting one,that only requires 3 mics but man, it's nuts the way it works,so many big names have used it, it's definitely tried and true, also it would be very handy in a live set up where mics are at a premium,either way it's a good technique and it works very well!
14:09 "That's not possible"
Call EMC right now. I believe he can do this.
I would love to see a world class drumline (drum corps or indoor) play that Threshold arrangement.
You guys are super generous with your comments and critiques. Always a joy to watch your channel, Adam.
please give us a video of shawn and yourself reacting to DCI/WGI videos, I love hearing different musical opinions on the art.
Maybe to a 2022 Bluecoats drumline video since one of their snares wrote the etude featured???
@@melissabrumfield6122 i think they would appreciate the bluecoats this year lol
Would be super cool to get more eyes on the activity to grow all the programs after the hit they took from the covid season
the battery arrangement is so sick
Loved the melody on the bass in Treshold, fits well
This was a really respectful way to review covers, really nice. (And OMG that is some heady music, I was not quite awake enough 🤣)
Question for your next Q&A:
How do you think instruments should be classified into their respective groups? i.e. strings, wind, percussion and so on. The commonly accepted method is to classify the instrument based on the way they produce their sound i.e. saxophone is a woodwind because the sound come from the reed, piano is a string/percussion instrument because a hammer strikes the string. I believe that this works but is confusing for some instruments like how a pipe organ is a wind instrument because of the pipes, yet is played through a keyboard like a piano. I believe that instruments should be classified by how they are played rather than how they produce sound. Your thoughts on this?.
@EMCProductions 19:00 challenge accepted?
Woah those covers are sick! It must be cool to inspiring such cool musical explorations! Keep pushing the limits!
EMC Productions has to try and play that drumline arrangement!
Hope to see you in DC! Looks like a cool venue.
Awesome video, what an awesome community, tres bien Adam.
Loved the analogy that learning something someone else improv'd is like learning their manner of speech
I expect the drumline cover of Threshold to show up in my recommended in about 3 months
Speaking of learning note-for-note what was originally improvised, the Guess Who originally improvised "American Woman" on the spot. They later decided that they wanted to record it, but they couldn't reproduce it in the studio. By an extreme bit of luck, someone in the audience had recorded the song on a very early portable casette recorder, and they were able to find it. In this case, their efforts at improvising the song again fell short, and they wound up learning what they had done before in order to be able to record it (although I am sure they made some further modifications to the song for the recording).
That BK call-out was so drum corps. Did not expect that on this channel 😂
Broken City could absolutely do the drumline etude at the end. I wouldn’t be surprised if they use Sungazer tracks as source music in the future.
God damn it now I have to actually play that Sequence Start piano part next time
I bet emc productions will play it within a week
And be ridiculously clean
YES
He was my first thought too. Someone poke him!
Lovely video, come to Sweden someday!
The bass split is something that I know that in high school I did, but the 6/7 and just general 19/16 time is something I know would take quite a bit for me to even parse fully
All the guys in these submissions need to form a super group haha soo good
Maybe @EMCProductions would take you up on the drumlins challenge?
I wanna see a drum corps play sungazer music now😂. I can see Blue Coats pulling their “wacky” music off.
OMGOSH that’s us at 0:17 WOW thank you guys
Howd you write all the music in the video??
Saw the tour announcement and just wanted to say I loved seeing you guys in Oslo btw great show :)
come to Montreal for the jazz fest next year guys, would love to see you live!, it's not far, you got no excuse
This time I got it!
Just bought 5 tickets to see you guys in Paris (yeah I take a lot of space).
It's gonna be more convenient than flying to Berlin like we did in June (I would do it again though).
Adam, you have gotten much better looking over the years!
That marching band drums one was really cool, but I mistook it for taiko drums at first and now I just want to hear a taiko drums version of that song.
After that drum line cover I now want to see Sungazer and Meute get together.
Highly recommend catching Sungazer live. The Oslo concert was epic. Especially playing Drunk for a room full of sober people.
19:04 oh you cheeky bastards! xD If I were a drummer, I'd find it impossible to resist this challenge
bro being sungazer's tenor player is the ultimate dream, y'all cant edge me by talkin about wanting a Drumline
Get @EMCproductions on that drum line transcription rn!!!
This really demonstrates that no matter how incredible you are on your instrument, some kid on the internet can copy you perfectly. Which could be disheartening but to me just reinforces that the important part is the composition and performance, not your crazy solo chops.
Blue Knights are some solid players, but I'd go with Bluecoats as they have Thank You Scientist in their repertoire. Santa Clara Vanguard are also ridiculously good at utilizing songs you wouldn't expect. I think some of it may be too crazy to play but they would get pretty darn close.
this video is so affirming and inspiring and motivating
Sungazer is the first music I added to my favorites list^^
I think it would be so cool if you guys did a reaction/analysis of a DCI show
Sungazer in dci would be crazy
love seeing the drum corps and drum line appreciation! mfbk!
Definitely advise looking to the SoCal drumline community if you're interested in working on applying these sounds to your music. A lot of cats down there including myself are really starting to step into branching out the style, and your kind of music is prime real estate. A lot of contacts within SoCal WGI groups happen to be involved with the upcoming scene of branching out the activity into other genres. It's coming up and worth looking into for sure
I would like to see EMCProductions try to cover the drumline etude
Sungazer Drum Corps Combo when?!?!?!?!?!?!
EMCProductions, We NEED a Sungazer "Gockenspiel" cover
Can we get @emcproductions playing that drum line arrangement?
@EMCproductions do your thing
Hartford MIGHT be close enough. Wish I was closer to a city. That should be a good stretch of shows for y'all - no need to get on an airplane, and guests might be willing to ride between the NY, Hartford and Boston shows. It'll be getting into flu season here by then, so I'll cross my fingers that this tour won't be impacted much, in that way. Good luck.
Waiting for the Blue Knights response video!
omg that Velvet Audio cover was insane
Give the Drumline thing to EMC Productions
It’s so cool that they decided to film this video in a nursing home!
In the game Stray, I heard the lick played, in a song called Ballad of the Lonely Robot
Sweet, I'm playing Stray now, I'll keep an ear open for it.
@@wingracer1614 Find the sheet music, then give them to the guitar robot guy (Morusque), if you sleep next to it, it will endlessly restart the songs, but once you get up and it finishes, you can only make it play the songs once you found all 8 sheet music. Some good vibes in this game, I love it
Watch as @EMC does the drumline transcription
Holy crap, let's go Blue Knights. First Charles Cornell and now Adam Neely.
what charles cornell vid did he shout out bk?
@@yegddd He posted on Instagram from Ft. Collins during rehearsal and then the DATR show. I think it was a story or one of those things that disappears.
Wasn’t expecting a blue knights shoutout here
hi i know how grueling tours are and its gonna be crazy and im so excited for you but also come to minneapolis please !
19:05 sounds like a challenge for @emcproductions
If anyone feels intimidated by the last 9:7 or 6:7 parts, don't
To break it down, the song is written as 19/16 (Although the feel is 4/4) so you got the sixteenths subdivided as:
6+6+(4+3), or 6+6+7 = 19
So, 6:7 polyrhythm is just stating to play
6 notes where there would be 7, pretty much like 6+6+6 (the last 6 is technically a little slower, but pretty much unnoticeable)
In the same way 9:7 would be 6+6+9
Or 6+6+(3+3+3). For that you just squeeze groupings of 3, like RLL
EMC Percussion, get in here. They’re challenging you.
That MIDI piece was LIT,God knows how long that would have taken 🤯🎵🎶🎼
not too long haha! i think i wrote it over the course of a few days. glad you enjoyed! :)
@@zachdrumfield Well fark mate that was just downright nuttier than squirrel shit, VERY impressive,my head still hurts from reading it, awesome stuff, now Play it!😂🎼🎵🎶🎹🎚️🎛️
Transcribing one measure and making excersices out of that sounds like a very interesting exercise
Glad you guys are coming out to play in CLE! Can't wait to see you guys!
When Frank Zappa released "G Spot Tornado" 1986 I though it's obvious why he programmed it on a Synclavier: it's impossible for humans to play it.
A few years later, he said in an interview "maybe it would be good for the improvement of the German society if people where forced to dance to G-Spot Tornado. I thought this joke was very funny.
In 1992 he had the Ensemble Modern playing G-Spot Tornado live (no synthesizers or computers) and La La La Human Steps dancing to it.
I will never say that something is impossible to play for humans.
I thought a lot of stuff on “hand played” piano rolls was physically impossible (well, some of it is, but I don’t mean the actual added parts or doubled parts), and then I heard first Tom Brier, then Frederick Hodges playing like this live, and figured they were doing something novel. Then I heard old audio recordings of piano roll legends Frank Banta, Pete Wendling and Ray Perkins absolutely slaying and I realized they really DID play like that and I shut the hell up and started practicing.
3:59 How would Charlie Parker do playing a transcription from the Omnibook?