Thank you Ironcane, for this exquisite thumbnail, you truly change my how i view the world, in fact my universe, this thumbnail just such a master piece that i started to tear up, thank you iron
Genuine question, at 6:25, when the level 1 was in the cave, was it really risky to perhaps just ki blast them from the entrance of the cave? None of the level 3's had D change. Unless we are playing it safe, and assuming they will chug drinks? But if they do, I feel you can make it out, no?
@@Dominic13337 i know, but i still want to see if, after 2 hours of getting his ass beat with each Raider, he is able to unlock the Beast with in him.(And if not, it Will be a Lot of hours worth of content)
The gamma’s barrier should work like broly or baby they can just sit on the stm with it there’s no reason they should have like 8 full seconds of invincibility that combined with their dash kick, infinite instant descent, the ability to just hold the jump button and fly up and a second break strike makes it insanely easy to run away from survivors and hold a key to timer too
@@littlebadassgaming oh really? that's interesting I guess because everyone usually runs rebellion spear or final explosion to get the knockback for the keys nobody can ever shoot the shield with a beam that's good to know I'll try that next time
I saw this game on stream Iron, and you play a very good cell max. I will say though, don't you think you can play around killing the survivors, due to delivering 1 key? You have people vanish kicking you constantly, and can't you just ki blast/melee them (idk which cell max does if they are floating next to you) to get rid of them? I just feel like your win condition in this game, is killing the players, not destroying the STM. You only destroyed the STM after killing everyone. I just feel like you can camp the supplies more and widdle down orange piccolo instead of going on stm.
keeping the 2nd key was the wrong play, the delay to when they get that key back was greater then the time you held onto it and by handing it in you would have reduced the startup time more and reduced the survivor assisting startup % a lot more. If there was a point where you were going to lose that game it was stm startup if the level 4 didnt get caught and instantly blown up
Might as well ask now if anyone has an answer; what's with the unironic Spirit Bombs lately? Hasn't that super been useless after Season 2 (not to be mistaken with Super Spirit Bomb)?
@@jacobmaitland3613 Might re-revisit this meme super attack against Cell Max (if I can even get into a match that won't break again, & the boring ass Gammas won't grip the key & kill everyone already or force the match to timer, again). If that's true, I'm still gonna treat this super attack like the meme it is (post season 2). But thanks I guess. Edit: used it in a match as level 4. So that was a fucking lie?
I was thinking they could make it so Trunks drops special unstealable keys at the 2 minute mark no matter the situation when fighting them. This way the Gammas can still push the Excessive Time as far as they can without making a completely unwinnable game for Survivors.
@@michaelz7528 To be fair, if the Gammas steal the key with about 2 minutes left, the Survivors literally cannot win since it takes 2 minutes for keys to return, and that's not even taking into account the time needed to place the key after finding it.
Just imagine they add ui goku as raider(1 level base goku) (2 level super saiyan blue) (3 level super saiyan blue kaioken x20) (4 level ui goku 100 sec for transform mui)
Hear me out... He's kinda cooking. In the context of the lore, it could be a sparring match. Just make Goku's 'kill' animations non lethal and it fits. But mainly. I want it because holy shit the voice lines would be gold. Imagine level 1 Goku spamming "hey! It's me! Goku."
To me. How gamma would be balanced would be that if you kill gamma 1 and 2. They are dead. Including level 3. (If you kill level 2 and 3. You win. Or 1 and 3... or 1 and 2). Energy sculp is just too op, you find civs so easily, its near impossible to jump gamma level 1
Thank you Ironcane, for this exquisite thumbnail, you truly change my how i view the world, in fact my universe, this thumbnail just such a master piece that i started to tear up, thank you iron
@@ReDho-h5p thanks man
@@ironcanewhy is nobody bringing up the fact that SBC instantly pops the energy shield?
@@littlebadassgamingYou can do it with other super attacks too, but not melee attacks.
10:15 wario when he finds the treasure
That defensive phase was intense. Cell Max's hands were rated E for everyone
This was a trip to watch live. Fantastic game! EVO grand finals in a great way.
Genuine question, at 6:25, when the level 1 was in the cave, was it really risky to perhaps just ki blast them from the entrance of the cave? None of the level 3's had D change. Unless we are playing it safe, and assuming they will chug drinks? But if they do, I feel you can make it out, no?
It really wasn't because if they killed him there they'd lose
I still want the premaded trials for the other 6 raiders (the og3, vegeta, ginyu and broly).
The only raiders that have a good chance are Vegeta and Broly, the rest of them get cooked 90% of the time.
@@Dominic13337 i know, but i still want to see if, after 2 hours of getting his ass beat with each Raider, he is able to unlock the Beast with in him.(And if not, it Will be a Lot of hours worth of content)
Bro that was nuts
Love the video ironcane keep up the good work 💯
One day on Raider, I was just running into premades, and it wasn't even that bad. I was doing pretty good on the Gammas.
The gamma’s barrier should work like broly or baby they can just sit on the stm with it there’s no reason they should have like 8 full seconds of invincibility that combined with their dash kick, infinite instant descent, the ability to just hold the jump button and fly up and a second break strike makes it insanely easy to run away from survivors and hold a key to timer too
Any super instantly depletes the shield. SBC literally makes it pop instantly.
@@littlebadassgaming And how many randoms are running sbc
@@littlebadassgaming at level 2 iirc, even a dinky masenko instantly kills the shield
"make it easy to run away from survivors"...
The raider should not even need to do this.
@@littlebadassgaming oh really? that's interesting I guess because everyone usually runs rebellion spear or final explosion to get the knockback for the keys nobody can ever shoot the shield with a beam that's good to know I'll try that next time
I saw this game on stream Iron, and you play a very good cell max. I will say though, don't you think you can play around killing the survivors, due to delivering 1 key? You have people vanish kicking you constantly, and can't you just ki blast/melee them (idk which cell max does if they are floating next to you) to get rid of them? I just feel like your win condition in this game, is killing the players, not destroying the STM. You only destroyed the STM after killing everyone. I just feel like you can camp the supplies more and widdle down orange piccolo instead of going on stm.
4:55 are they just all vpning. your shots are shoting they connect meanwhile they are just strolling and not getting hit/barrier broken. lol
I wouldn't doubt it seems these premades are desperate for a win
"Aw yeah!"- Gamma 2
keeping the 2nd key was the wrong play, the delay to when they get that key back was greater then the time you held onto it and by handing it in you would have reduced the startup time more and reduced the survivor assisting startup % a lot more. If there was a point where you were going to lose that game it was stm startup if the level 4 didnt get caught and instantly blown up
Might as well ask now if anyone has an answer; what's with the unironic Spirit Bombs lately? Hasn't that super been useless after Season 2 (not to be mistaken with Super Spirit Bomb)?
It’s a multi hit and every hit does BIG damage to cell max’s knock back meter
Because of the “that all” skill that doesn’t let the raider knock you out of the first super attack you do each dragon change
@@jacobmaitland3613 Might re-revisit this meme super attack against Cell Max (if I can even get into a match that won't break again, & the boring ass Gammas won't grip the key & kill everyone already or force the match to timer, again). If that's true, I'm still gonna treat this super attack like the meme it is (post season 2).
But thanks I guess.
Edit: used it in a match as level 4. So that was a fucking lie?
@@oh605 I said Spirit Bomb, not Super Spirit Bomb. The latter has always been a cracked super attack.
Solar flare into super spirit bomb has been a thing since the move dropped. I still use it and still hit Z5 raiders.
thank you for playing gamma's because i wouldn't dare buy them
Putting the key away would have been better imo. Someone saw you pick up both of them iirc so they might have still jumped you. Only to get nothing.
Gammas are kinda op I just want them to nerf key holding and that damn barrier it lasts 10 years and they can just brute force stm with it
I was thinking they could make it so Trunks drops special unstealable keys at the 2 minute mark no matter the situation when fighting them. This way the Gammas can still push the Excessive Time as far as they can without making a completely unwinnable game for Survivors.
I'm all for a gamma nerf if and only if they nerf premades as well
@@michaelz7528 To be fair, if the Gammas steal the key with about 2 minutes left, the Survivors literally cannot win since it takes 2 minutes for keys to return, and that's not even taking into account the time needed to place the key after finding it.
Any super attack breaks the barrier. And enough beam punishment breaks it
Bro can you always show your passive skills before the video? 🤔
Redoing rank list when?
Bro no more premade trails😢😢😢😢
Gammas are kinda Op if you just key hold but its just gonna be a boring game
Only do it against premades
@RIPYaboiPizzaSauce agreed
Lucky you didn't run into a full VPN premade, imagine ruining a match with lag
10:03 I’ve had enough of this! I’m activating Sell Match
DAMN
Just imagine they add ui goku as raider(1 level base goku) (2 level super saiyan blue) (3 level super saiyan blue kaioken x20) (4 level ui goku 100 sec for transform mui)
Can't tell whether this is serious or just a joke mostly cause your using a whole account with it revolved around goku
@@metald.e.v422 is serious if they add it
Hear me out... He's kinda cooking.
In the context of the lore, it could be a sparring match. Just make Goku's 'kill' animations non lethal and it fits.
But mainly. I want it because holy shit the voice lines would be gold. Imagine level 1 Goku spamming "hey! It's me! Goku."
be more fun if its base to super saiyan to ss3 to ss4
To the survivor swat teams? Cry my a river.
GG IronGOAT
To me. How gamma would be balanced would be that if you kill gamma 1 and 2. They are dead. Including level 3. (If you kill level 2 and 3. You win. Or 1 and 3... or 1 and 2). Energy sculp is just too op, you find civs so easily, its near impossible to jump gamma level 1