No, Twum and Antwi, Kobia Amenfi were chiefs in Amansie. They were not Kwamanhenes. The first Kwamanhene was Oti Akenten who bought the Kwaman chiefship from Adwoa Nkrawiri. He was followed by Obiri Yeboah, then Osei Tutu I, who later became the Kumasehene and Asantehene after the Denkyira war. I beg, Dormaa was never able to defeat Dwaben as Osei Kwadwo seems to say. Dormaa never ruled over Dwaben. Even with Kwaman, though the Kwamanhene Obiri Yeboah was killed or came to die of his wounds at home, depending on the version one believes during/after the war with Dormaa, Dormaa still was not able to rule over Kwaman. Response to the question: The Dormaa people, that is those Dormaa Aduanas are from Akwamu originally. They are an Akwamu people, not Bono, as they attempt nowadays to pull the wool over the eyes of those who do not know their history. No, Akoraba got it wrong. After Dormaa was defeated by Osei Tutu I and Dwaben, the Dormaas fled from Suntreso near Kumase to settle in the Ahafo area. That is they settled and established their capital known as Abanperedease near the present day towns of Bomaa and Takyimantia. They also settled at Abesim near Sunyani. At a later time, following their rebellion against Asante rule, they were defeated, with Abanperedease being burnt down. It was then that they fled from the Ahafo area to Wam and Gyaman and even to the Ivory Coast. The Wamhene who lived at Wamfie (the Wams are the aboriginal owners of much of present day Dormaa lands) told the fleeing refugee Dormaahene and his people to go and reside at his backside, that is the area of division of the human spine. This was a derogatory term. The Wamhene gave the Dormaas his lands at what was known as Wampamu, now changed to Dormaa Ahenkro by Dormaahene Agyeman Badu I to settle on. So, the Dormaas are refugee squatters on Wamhene's lands. The Offinso Mmoanimko issue. This is one of the Scams of Asante which needs to be investigated and corrected. To begin with, let me let readers know that the Offinsohene was one of the pre-Asante Rulers who was totally against the Asante Union. Even more, he was also against the Rulership of Osei Tutu I. So was it that, and I will let you know of this secret that the Offinsohene fought against Osei Tutu I and Dwaben. The Offinsohene Wiafe Akenten was defeated and killed in that battle. He forfeiting his head. Will this same Osei Tutu then so shortly turn around and award such a large mass if land to an Offinso which was rebellious? No. Thank you Akoraba for the question about what role or achievement of Offinso in the Dormaa war for them to be so rewarded? The answer is, Nothing Significant. Those who achieved in that war with Dormaa was Dwaben and Kwaman, now known as Kumase. So then what is the basis of the Offinso claim to such large lands? Is Offinso one of the Asante Amantuo to be so entitled? Is Offinso one of the historical Greats of Asanteman to be so entitled? No. Bear me out, which of the renowned and seasoned historian's/scholars of Asante, such as Ivor Wilks, Adu Boahen, T C McKaskie and so forth ever mentions Offinso in their accounts of Asante? Offinso is not entitled to those lands, it is as simple as that. Even their festival had a different name. It is the recently deceased Offinsohene Wiafe Akenten III, who changed the name to Mmoaninko and gave us that historically bogus narrative. Do the Offinso's mind telling us what happened to Offinso in the time of Opoku Ware I when they rebelled against him? Offinso has managed to pull the wool over the eye of Asante. D33bi Akoraba, let me correct you again. Dormaa Anni Dwaben so da. Dormaa never defeated or ruled over Dwaben. Dwaben is not Kwaman or Kumase. The wars with Dormaa were on 3 occasions. The first Dormaa war with Obiri Yeboah of Kwaman in which Kwaman was defeated and Obiri Yeboah lost his life. The 2nd war with Dormaa involved Osei Tutu I of Kwaman/Kumase and Dwaben on one side. Dormaa was defeated. Some say the Dormaahene Kyereme Sikafuo was killed or became Osei Tutu's okradwareni or soulwasher. The 3rd war was in Opoku Ware I's time, when Dormaa rebelled against Asante. Dormaa was defeated, the Dormaahene Kusi was killed. The Dormaas fled from Ahafo area to Wam, Gyaman and the Ivory Coast. Dormaa is Not Aduana Piesie. The Dormaas descend from Atta Kuma and his mother Nkansaa, the then Queenmother of Akwamu. Atta Kuma, who was the junior twin lost the Kingship succession race in Akwamu to his elder twin brother who succeeded the Akwamuhene Ansa Sasraku. So then, how can a junior become the elder or Piesie(firstborn)? The Dormaas claim to being Aduana Piesie is bogus, fallacious and not supported by historical evidence or Akan laws and practice. Asumegya is the actual Aduana Piesie. All the Aduanas came to meet Asumegya. Note this: Dormaa never ruled over or defeated Dwaben in battle. NEVER. Dwaben should not be mistaken for Kwaman.
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What l know is that there are three sister who live in essumeja and the senior sister founded Dormaa and the second sister remain essumeja and the third went to kumawu that is Dormaa can say on authority that he is Aduana piesie
No, that is a total fabrication of history. What I have told you about Dormaa and it's bogus claim to be Aduana Piesie is the Hallowed Truth. Any other else, is just Total Lies that cannot stand up to scrutiny by historical facts, Akan Law and Practices.
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No, Twum and Antwi, Kobia Amenfi were chiefs in Amansie. They were not Kwamanhenes. The first Kwamanhene was Oti Akenten who bought the Kwaman chiefship from Adwoa Nkrawiri. He was followed by Obiri Yeboah, then Osei Tutu I, who later became the Kumasehene and Asantehene after the Denkyira war.
I beg, Dormaa was never able to defeat Dwaben as Osei Kwadwo seems to say. Dormaa never ruled over Dwaben. Even with Kwaman, though the Kwamanhene Obiri Yeboah was killed or came to die of his wounds at home, depending on the version one believes during/after the war with Dormaa, Dormaa still was not able to rule over Kwaman.
Response to the question: The Dormaa people, that is those Dormaa Aduanas are from Akwamu originally. They are an Akwamu people, not Bono, as they attempt nowadays to pull the wool over the eyes of those who do not know their history.
No, Akoraba got it wrong. After Dormaa was defeated by Osei Tutu I and Dwaben, the Dormaas fled from Suntreso near Kumase to settle in the Ahafo area. That is they settled and established their capital known as Abanperedease near the present day towns of Bomaa and Takyimantia. They also settled at Abesim near Sunyani.
At a later time, following their rebellion against Asante rule, they were defeated, with Abanperedease being burnt down. It was then that they fled from the Ahafo area to Wam and Gyaman and even to the Ivory Coast.
The Wamhene who lived at Wamfie (the Wams are the aboriginal owners of much of present day Dormaa lands) told the fleeing refugee Dormaahene and his people to go and reside at his backside, that is the area of division of the human spine. This was a derogatory term. The Wamhene gave the Dormaas his lands at what was known as Wampamu, now changed to Dormaa Ahenkro by Dormaahene Agyeman Badu I to settle on. So, the Dormaas are refugee squatters on Wamhene's lands.
The Offinso Mmoanimko issue. This is one of the Scams of Asante which needs to be investigated and corrected. To begin with, let me let readers know that the Offinsohene was one of the pre-Asante Rulers who was totally against the Asante Union. Even more, he was also against the Rulership of Osei Tutu I. So was it that, and I will let you know of this secret that the Offinsohene fought against Osei Tutu I and Dwaben. The Offinsohene Wiafe Akenten was defeated and killed in that battle. He forfeiting his head.
Will this same Osei Tutu then so shortly turn around and award such a large mass if land to an Offinso which was rebellious? No. Thank you Akoraba for the question about what role or achievement of Offinso in the Dormaa war for them to be so rewarded? The answer is, Nothing Significant. Those who achieved in that war with Dormaa was Dwaben and Kwaman, now known as Kumase. So then what is the basis of the Offinso claim to such large lands? Is Offinso one of the Asante Amantuo to be so entitled? Is Offinso one of the historical Greats of Asanteman to be so entitled? No. Bear me out, which of the renowned and seasoned historian's/scholars of Asante, such as Ivor Wilks, Adu Boahen, T C McKaskie and so forth ever mentions Offinso in their accounts of Asante? Offinso is not entitled to those lands, it is as simple as that. Even their festival had a different name. It is the recently deceased Offinsohene Wiafe Akenten III, who changed the name to Mmoaninko and gave us that historically bogus narrative. Do the Offinso's mind telling us what happened to Offinso in the time of Opoku Ware I when they rebelled against him? Offinso has managed to pull the wool over the eye of Asante.
D33bi Akoraba, let me correct you again. Dormaa Anni Dwaben so da. Dormaa never defeated or ruled over Dwaben. Dwaben is not Kwaman or Kumase.
The wars with Dormaa were on 3 occasions. The first Dormaa war with Obiri Yeboah of Kwaman in which Kwaman was defeated and Obiri Yeboah lost his life. The 2nd war with Dormaa involved Osei Tutu I of Kwaman/Kumase and Dwaben on one side. Dormaa was defeated. Some say the Dormaahene Kyereme Sikafuo was killed or became Osei Tutu's okradwareni or soulwasher.
The 3rd war was in Opoku Ware I's time, when Dormaa rebelled against Asante. Dormaa was defeated, the Dormaahene Kusi was killed. The Dormaas fled from Ahafo area to Wam, Gyaman and the Ivory Coast.
Dormaa is Not Aduana Piesie. The Dormaas descend from Atta Kuma and his mother Nkansaa, the then Queenmother of Akwamu. Atta Kuma, who was the junior twin lost the Kingship succession race in Akwamu to his elder twin brother who succeeded the Akwamuhene Ansa Sasraku.
So then, how can a junior become the elder or Piesie(firstborn)? The Dormaas claim to being Aduana Piesie is bogus, fallacious and not supported by historical evidence or Akan laws and practice.
Asumegya is the actual Aduana Piesie. All the Aduanas came to meet Asumegya.
Note this: Dormaa never ruled over or defeated Dwaben in battle. NEVER. Dwaben should not be mistaken for Kwaman.
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@ Francisca: What a WOOOOOWW!!😮😮😂😂 You've certainly given a very clear, didactic & analytical historical facts, to debunk serious fallacies. This is evidence based practice & very water-tight. Your knowledge & understanding of Asante history is par excellence & I do hope you're imparting this to students & scholars alike. I'm damn impressed 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾.
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Let me make some corrections here.Asumanya fosu Kwabena is not aduana piesie but rather the second person from the Aduana Clan.(Aduana Maanu)
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Why did he run away from Suntreso?
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The Asantis never defeted Dormaa. Asantis did send Dormaa away but The Dormaas left suntreso voluntary
Retreat is defeat
What l know is that there are three sister who live in essumeja and the senior sister founded Dormaa and the second sister remain essumeja and the third went to kumawu that is Dormaa can say on authority that he is Aduana piesie
No, that is a total fabrication of history. What I have told you about Dormaa and it's bogus claim to be Aduana Piesie is the Hallowed Truth. Any other else, is just Total Lies that cannot stand up to scrutiny by historical facts, Akan Law and Practices.
It’s not true
Essumegya was there before Dormaa, Akwamu and the rest
No please. Dormaa was a splinter group from Akwamu that eventually moved to Suntreso. Agogo is also an offshoot from Akwamu.