Laser removal of carbon buildup on a piston
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- Today I am using our laser to remove carbon and oil deposits on a piston.
Laser cleaning is a very effective way at removing carbonization buildup from engines, tooling and other metals and non-metals that get carbon buildup.
Next time you need carbon removed think about laser cleaning.
I hope you enjoy this video, let me know what else you would like to see in the comments below
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Just when I thought there were no more interesting videos on TH-cam.
I am very thankful that you found us!!
I think a turntable, like the ones welders use, would be a really good addition to your setup. You could get a more consistent finish from more angles.
I have a big heavy gearbox part that I will be putting on a turntable or a homemade lathe, watch this space. These comments feed me with new ideas. Thank you
@@projectlaser how much does ur lasers start at ?
big respect from MONTENEGRO !!!
Can you try to demonstrate how the laser affects various nonmetal objects, such as colored paper, fruit, or scorched wood?
I will do PNT
What frequency and speed settings do you use for heavy carbon build up?
you need to work on optimizing your video titles mate. Write something like Oddly satisfying laser cleaning or something and get millions of views. Great video by the way. Keep'em coming
Definitely, something I need to get better at, thanks for the tips!! Hopefully, I get a new exciting item to clean today, I will keep you posted
what is the corrugated black tube ? is a vacuum cleaner. Very nice job.
Yeah sure is, very basic operation back then
It came up really nicely 👍
@Johnny Sinns this one cost $100k AUD a year ago,
No chemicals, no wire brushes, no scrubing, no submerging metal parts in solvent tanks, no grinding.
This is completely insane.
It's an amazing technology!! I'm glad you can see the value of it
Ever considered adding a welding positioner and chuck to your work bench for job holding?
A chuck would and vice would have made every video of mine a lot easier, I'm going to have to build my own designated laser filming area in the future and will get better prepared
It would be a great product if you made a laser that could enter intake manifolds or through the spark plug to do carbon cleaning like showen in the video. New cars with GDI TDI engines have huge issues with carbon build up on valve. The only way to remove it currently is with sand blasting with nut shells or with chemicals and it takes awhile to do. With a laser i could imagine the process taking less then a hour to do with less risk to the engine. The product would probably pay for itself in a year or two time.
i just asked the same question, hoping for an answer
Question for you on this. Why did you not just go full power right from the start? Is there damage that it can do that you're avoiding?
(PS: I love watching these. If I had the $$$ I'd buy one just for fun!)
Hi Gord,
Absolutely you can texture a soft metal like aluminium with the incorrect settings.
Pulse width, frequency, power and scan speed all need to be set to certain parameters to get the correct outcome.
It is kind of like cooking and you have to find and fine-tune the right recipe.
Cleaning thick carbon steel is very different from shiny aluminium, just like a thin piece of copper with light tarnishing is different from removing soot from a painted surface.
Lazery McLazerface. Also how much money does such a thing cost?
that's basically the first name I came up right also, sadly it doesn't roll off the tongue too well, this was $100K AUD
I have 0.16c AUD.
Is it clean process? Where did goes that's smoke???
It's definitely a clean process, obviously given the fact it is vaporising and releasing fumes it is essential to work in a well ventilated area and with a breathing apparatus
How much you bought for this machine?
Nice tech man.
Thanks man! We will have a big 500W 4jet laser in a couple weeks
Nicely cleaned.
I finally understand forest fires!!!
So mate. How many milliseconds do you reckon it would it take for that laser to cleanly remove and cauterize your left index finger?
If you follow me on tiktok you'll see me attempt and fail at cooking a piece of bacon
Is this technology applicable to cleaning intake valves on engines. Without removing the cylinder head. Would this method do a better job than chemical cleaning. Would the price of this equipment be prohibited for a small shop? The old school guy
Thanks for your question Dan, lasers are a line of site cleaning methodology, if you can get to 20-30 cm away the laser will be able to clean the surface.
When used correctly the surface will be stripped of contamination and left undamaged
You can buy a great quality 100W laser for €50000. Otherwise there are the Chinese options
Love your attention to details! How many Watts is your laser?
Thank you! this is a 500W pulsed laser by 4Jet
Class, what other materials can these machines be used on?
Any ferrous or non ferrous material + wood and brick
was kostet sowas? kann ich gut in der werkstadt gebrauchen.. geht das auch mit lack?
Hej Ivan, denne maskine koster omkring 45.000 euro. Hvis lakken var tynd, kunne en laser fjerne den, denne teknologi er ikke designet til at fjerne tykke belægninger
What’s the benefit to cleaning the carbon off of a piston in this manner? I understand that carbon build up can cause hotspots, promoting detonation, or is it something else?
Finally! Some additives, at the gas tank, to clean the pistons... No wait!
Additives would be the easy solution, and if everyone did that I would not have any content to show you!
Ha .... I bet ya that would do a great job on the skid-marks in my shorts !
is the laser tuned to carbon??
As oddly satisfying this laser cleaner is, my immediate thought was cost to do the cleaning, and how the carbon buildup could have been avoided by using a great synthetic oil ( I like Schaeffers Supreme 9000 ) and a good fuel treat.
I understand your point, there is definitely scope for lasers to assist with carbon removal with pistons, we are working with an international engine rebuilding firm to clean their v16 truck pistons, I would hope they have researched the correct oils and fuel additives to use.
Also as you said it was a satisfying video and that is why we choose to create them, they garner interest and increase the amount of eyes on laser cleaning technologies
Wouldnt you take the rings off before cleaning?
For sure, if I knew what I was doing when I originally cleaned the piston
I would love to have that laser technology. all the money I can save from not buying new car parts and not to mention use the laser to clean the rust off of my coins. I use blue magic cream to get the rust off of my coins and I enjoy doing it but the laser is more cooler and faster.
You can get a 60W laser for about $10kUSD, these will continue dropping over the next few years, still a bit pricey for most people to have in their garage or shed, but it would be able to complete the tasks you mentioned.
Can I assume that a tool like this one could be used to clean rusted automotive body parts prior to repair?
Hello Bob.
Absolutely a laser could be used to remove paint and corrosion from panel's. I would suggest a 500W laser system as the minimum requirement. We have a 200W laser.
Using a 500W+ laser would ensure the panel's do not heat up and it would be far more time efficient. Still slower than media or ice blasting, and without the risk of warping the car panela
Cet homme travaille bien. Il est méticuleux et ne fait pas les choses à moitié. This man works well. He is meticulous and doesn't do things by halves.
Thank you for your kind words, I will keep on working hard for you!
Is it great to use on old classic cars like removing rust?
With my 200W laser it is ideal for removing localised corrosion in small areas,
If you had a 1000W or 2000W laser system then you could quite easily strip the corrosion and paint off an old or new car.
Lasers are great due to the fact that the panels do not heat up much or at all, meaning you don't have the risk of warping.
How do you keep from zapping your black gloves?
when you clean these parts with the laser does the parts get warm or hot? or stay room temp? how much did your laser run?
Laser cleaners like this one are $50,000 on up depending on the power of the laser.
It depends on what you are cleaning, the power and your laser.
Thick steel or iron would only heat up a few degrees if at all with my 200W Chinese laser even if it's on high power, thin metal can absorb the laser and warm-up or even get hot, Its all about using the correct settings for the job.
There are better laser systems out there, by 4Jet for example that uses a different laser beam structure that spreads the laser beam out, these are ideal for more delicate cleaning activities.
WTF,
Suddenly I feel like I've been living under a rock.. what an amazing device 👍🏻👍🏻
How long has this laser machine been out ??
Its an amazing technology isnt it!!
Lasers have been used for removing paint from the fuselage of planes since the 1990's and in-vehicle manufacturing for decades, only now laser cleaning machines come down enough in price to be accessible to small businesses.
@@projectlaser what would be the wattage for your model? Seems like somewhere between 300-600 if i'm not wrong, the >1k units are still pretty pricey for a one-man operation
@@kaing5074 hello, this is a 200W JPT laser source. I'd love a 1000W unit, game changer
What about laser machine cost
This is a Chinese laser, probably starts at around $40,000 these days
Does this damage metal? Could it be used on body panels, hoods and stuff?
If it is a pulse laser it does no damage to the substrate base
Are laser cleaning strong enough to remove paint can it also remove rhino liner on a truck bed?
Hello Andrew, definitely laser's can be used to remove paint, I'd say a 1000W machine would be the minimum requirement, I have a 200W laser.
With regards to Rhino liner, I'd say no due to the coating being thick,with that said I'm sending a 4-5mm sample with a polyurethane coating to get test cleaned. I will let you know if it's successful
This process burns what you point it at.
Beadliner is THICK and will release Toxic gasses if overheated.
Best way to remove bed liner is manually.
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Great wonderful cleaned indeed.
Which laser brand do you use?
This was a Chinese laser, I now use a German made 4Jet laser system
I've been looking into to the cleaning lasers as a business . I've heard numbers for $8000 to $250,0000 what does a 500 watt laser cost a man. What laser is most universal in your field.
The 8,000 to $40,000 lasers in the 1000-3000W range will all be CW lasers, they're the cheapest constructed and have the least amount of useful applications.
You then get your different types of pulsed lasers, say 500W Gaussian or tophat beam.
Most European 500w lasers would be tophat, the only truly non destructive laser, with the alternative being a Gaussian beam.
Gaussian is Better at removing rust and potentially paint, Top hat is far better on stainless and cleaning surfaces that you definitely don't want to damage.
No one laser is perfect, it's up to you to make a choice. We love our 500w tophat laser for the works we're mostly involved in
Dear Santa ..I have been good boy ..i ate my vegetables ,and i will like to ask you for this next Christmas one of these ..
See if it will clean direct injection intakes, instead of walnut blasting.
i asked that question , also,, yet no reply
So you started at 200 watts . What did you turn it up to ?
The power setting was originally set at70% I believe, this was then turned up to 100, there were also other parameters like laser pulse width and frequency that could have been adjusted to improve the cleaning.
We are learning as we go
@@projectlaser so this was a 200watt laser ?
From beginning to end ?
@@TwistedEngines Correct, just different laser parameters were used.
It would also be awesome if people could some how rent these machines.
Depending on where you are in the world you can, it usually comes with a safety and training course
Can I use this on wood????
Sure, there are people using lasers to remove residue, paint and varnish from wooden surfaces, depends on the laser quality, type of wood and what coating you intend to remove
how many hours are these lasers effective for?
around 100 000 hours is working I guess some where around 60 000 -70 000 effective
Interesting that you turned down the power for the hardened steel pin that pushes through the piston
MY thought process was that it is very shiny smooth, with the wrong settings I have melted surfaces like stainless and super duplex stainless steel so I didn't want that to happen this time.
I could have been wrong in my assumption, I will test it out later
@@projectlaser I believe these would be around the 64-67 rock well hardness so I can't imagine the laser would do much at all in regards to surface damage
@@davidoff59 You were 100% correct, thanks for the education
@@projectlaser I was told that the Chinese attached an optical cleaning head to a welding machine and sold it as a laser cleaner. This is why heating occurs. Do you have a pulsed laser or a stream laser?
@@SVS_UA This is a pulsed laser, 200W JPT,
When can I buy this at harbor freight? 😂😂
I’d call it the “friggin laser beam”
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Hi. Is your 200watt machine a Pulse or CW laser ?
Pusled! We didn't know CW lasers existed when we purchased our 200w laser
@@projectlaser many thanks for your kind reply. But I think you wouldn’t buy a more powerful CW laser instead of your 200watt Pulse, would you ? If I am not wrong, CW laser induces much more heat and roughness to the base material-substrate. So for example, if you were using a CW machine on this piston, it would damage the surface. I think Pulse machines are the only option to work on delicate material or on thin sheet metal. I am trying to understand if a CW machine could work on car body restoration ( naturally thin sheet metal 1-1,2 mm ) to remove rust+bondo+primer+top coat without warping the panel but couldn’t yet find the answer. And the same situation goes for some delicate engine internals such as pistons, cylinder head chambers, crankshaft etc. I was very close to purchasing a CW 1500 watt from China ( they are quite reasonably priced now) but then I start thinking about the concerns here above. However, I could not yet find all the answers as there is not a CW machine to test over here on the typical applications.
@@keremustunkaya9650 I think you've nailed it! Honestly I don't think removing paint or bondo is the ideal tool for a laser, if it was then you'd probably see people doing it, and you just don't really see any content like that online.
A CW will leave its mark on everything it touches, after all if the beam stopped moving it would cut through eventually.
CW lasers have their place in the market that's for sure you've just go to understand the pros and cons
@@projectlaser 👍🙏 are you currently using your 200w Pulse machine on all your projects or you have a higher power Pulse laser as well ? Regarding the car bodyshell restoration projects, it may be a good idea to scrap the paint etc with chemicals then use laser to clean off the rust as a 2 step process but still the laser type must be correct for the base metal imho.
@@keremustunkaya9650 in our videos, our 500W 4Jet laser is predominantly used, you will notice the difference in speed instantly.
I agree with you that a good idea is to strip the car paint with chemicals prior to laser cleaning. This is what I have suggested to other companies, though its not an industry i am actively persuing
i was wondering about using this on my 2.0 ford fusion gdi to remove the carbon on back of the intake valves,, your thoughts?
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Sorry for the delay Randell.Yeah for sure this would work, any thin layer of carbon, oil and grease can be removed.
My newer laser would be a lot more effective at cleaning the piston than what you see in this video
@@projectlaser i have seen those powerfull handheld burning lazers..100,00 m 450nm blue lazer..might that be enough tp burn carbon off....its just an idea.. to burn carbon build up off the back of intake valves with out all the mess
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Handheld Class IV laser? I can't see that being legal outside China anytime soon!
Very much legal in Australia once you have applied for a licence and have the correct controls on place to ensure safety!
Could you zap exhaust ports without disassembly even just for a video
I am cleaning the cylinder head off a Toyota Hiace tomorrow, it has some ports that I will clean and film!
I’m on the east coast of Queensland, and been researching this technology to coincide with the vehicle restoration business I’m looking to start.
How can I touch base with you, if you may assist with info or obtaining appropriate equipment?
Hey Peter. It's a great time to start laser cleaning, as far as I know QLD has 2 laser cleaning companies. Call the mobile number on the industrial laser cleaning website/ instagram or Facebook
@@projectlaser thank you
Классная штука!
Интересно, когда можно будет заказать с Алика?
Це вже можна робити більше трьох років.
Imagine what the lazer satellite in space will do to you
More power
Elimination con laser de laser accumulation de carbon en un piston
How much electricity does that use?! I have a 1 watt blue laser that I thought was badass. No sir yours is much more badass lol
It's 200 watt laser
If only Santa was real
Вообще к чему это? Просто очистка поршня? Какой прок от этого? Кольца все равно менять, а часто и саму группу поршней.
Not sure what you are talking about mate, sorry
Muitobom!!!👏👏
Sandblast it only takes 2 minute
Agreed, except nobody is sandblasting pistons as far as I can tell.
I do agree with you that a 200W Laser is not the ideal way to clean a piston, with that said we are researching with international engine manufacturers to clean truck pistons with a 1000W laser. So there is a market for it
Whoa...
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Vw diesel piston 🙂
That's pretty cool, as I drive a Diesel VW Golf
Looks more like a nissan td42 piston
Buying a new Piston with Rings ist cheaper? I think so
I totally agree this is not the ideal application, the piston was thrown away by a refurbishment company due to it being easier for them to buy a new piston.
I create these videos so more people become aware of the technology.
It does show that lasers can remove carbon buildup, effectively clean aluminium without damaging the surface, can strip off oils and greases.
@@projectlaser OK that is nice to know 😊 i was Just thinking because DPSS Lasers are quie pricey Equipment . Arent they. What would your Treatment cost per sqrare cm ? Best regards
You need a bigger laser, best to leave this one cranked all the way up.
Thanks bro, I do have a bigger one, I should upload a video
@@projectlaser Yes, you should most definitely upload many videos of the bigger laser in action! Among other things, show what happens to various substrates of you use *too much* laser. So far, all laser cleaning videos demonstrate how safe they are, how it is impossible to damage the workpiece or injure yourself.
Maybe you could run an experiment like how Project Farm structures his videos...
one new Piston cost 79.- Euro
The cost to watch a laser cleaning a piston -Pricele$$
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Wasting time on the rings.
Those are wearing parts; just discard.
You're not wrong, the whole thing went in the bin after being cleaned
Make one of those lasers small enough to fit through a spark plug hole and you will really be in business.
@Industrial Laser Cleaning if you need a liver or a other organ and have one laser to much in storage call me .
Where are you getting the organs from?? I would feel better if I knew where it was coming from, then we can talk
@@projectlaser i would trade mine for a laser 😂
If ever you touch your glove ? You burne ? 😅
Very very expensive
Yes it is, the prices will come down quickly
Wow! Al Gore can use this to remove CARBON FOOTPRINTS 🥴
Tell him to fly over on his low carbon footprint plane and I can give him a demo
Lama..!! Mendingan pakai mesin poles..
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