I don't completed blame Liam for not always vounching for Wyatt because of how he relentlessly pursued Hope. Don't believe Liam ever really got past that phase and thus would always allow Wyatt to be played for a fool. And of seems that Wyatt would constantly try to attach himself to Liam's exes in some attempt to not feel inferior. Wyatt and Liam's relationship as brother only really solidified after Wyatt stopped trying to be in competition with Liam.
I’m so glad Quinn lit into Liam, he’s the worst brother, just standing letting Wyatt propose. He never has Wyatt’s back. And Wyatt was great in these scenes.
@RealTakerslady I agree 110% but Why-it brings this on himself, stop getting involved with women that are still in love with Liam. Hope, Ivy and Steffi and when it gets the woman with Quinn's help he belittle Liam and when they leave him, he begs them not to leave him. I don't feel sorry for him
Wyatt keeps shooting himself in the foot by going after women who had a history with his brother first Hope then Steffy then Ivy and later Sally the only women he's been with that hasn't been his brother is Flo
Liam should have told Wyatt and Liam should have put Ivy in her place. And one more thing Liam only was with Ivy because he didn't have Steffy. He tells Ivy what she needs to hear. Liam loves Steffy.
@@calentbibbs2883 Not trying to be rude jumping in, but YES! Liam loves Steffy and Hope's baby was not a planned pregnancy. He chose Steffy but Hope ended up pregnant.
I'm glad Wyatt learned his lesson after Steffy, that he shouldn't be with women who had past relationships with his brother. Hope, she still had feelings for Liam and stayed with Wyatt because she was pregnant with his child, and Quinn was an issue. Ivy still had feelings for Liam, and Quinn actually didn't do anything to ruin that relationship, that was all on Ivy. Steffy and Wyatt grew close, while Quinn was holding Liam hostage, and they got married. Once Steffy find out what Quinn did, she didn't want to have anything to do with her, and her marriage with Wyatt ended, because Quinn got involved with Eric.
This episode was so gut wrenching to watch. Just think about it; If you was present when this happened to a guy you cared about and he honestly didn't deserve it...would you want to be labeled as another woman who did this to him too? Even though Steffy honored her marriage to Wyatt because she actually did love Wyatt and adored him for what he was able to do for in such a short while...There was no way she was gonna leave Wyatt for Liam just because Liam wanted her too. She wasn't gonna burn Wyatt like Hope and Ivy did. Unlike Hope...When Steffy married Wyatt she meant her vows even though she still loved Liam and felt they were robbed by Quinn and her scam.
No, Ivy! Steffy didn't stole Liam away from you nor your life turned upside down when she came back from Paris. Liam destroyed your relationship with him by abandoned you for his lust and infatuation he's still has for Steffy.
Ivy didn't realize Liam was not the guy she thought his was from day one, even way before Steffy came back from Paris. If she really did, she would see Liam's damage goods and won't get deep involved with him. She would've let him have it, kick him to the curb by hit it where it hurts, and out of her life, and than tell Steffy that she can have him.
Liam never promised Ivy a future. They were dating. He never asked her to move in. He never asked her to marry him. When he realized he still had feelings for Steffy he was honest about it.
Ivy, let's not cry, it looks like we stole a game. First of all, be honest with yourself, you have seen that Steam has a strong connection and even Hope to try to fight against this love. Then, dear Ivy, Steffy never stole Liam from you. Steffy was honest with Liam, if she came back, she wanted him as a professional and personal partner. Liam had the choice of staying with you or going with Steffy, and we know what happens next. If he really loved you as you say, he would have stayed with you. I agree on one point, when Steffy has an idea or someone in mind, she does everything to want what she wants. Hope and Ivy were aware of Steffy's intentions, too easy to blame as Steffy, Liam is also to blame.
@Hanan That's true. Steffy never stole Liam away from Ivy. He was good with Ivy, finally had a peaceful relationship with her until he destroyed his relationship with her for his lust and infatuation he still has for Steffy. Which that's sick and disgusting. The problem is Ivy fell in love with Liam so quickly that she didn't give herself more time to know him and realize he's damaged good when she met him. She was in love with Liam so much that she always keep ignoring the truth about him.
@@sherell273 I find it absurd and really tiring to watch the fans of Hope and Ivy keep blaming Steffy. I agree that Steffy in the past has not been innocent. But Ivy and Hope knew very well Steffy's intentions. Hope and Ivy are equally responsible in the story, and even Liam is to blame in his difunctional relationships. At some point we have to see who is the real problem in this story. It's not always Steffy's fault who knows what she wants and isn't the type to stay mourned over her plight.
@@Hanan2806 That's so true. Even though Steffy is still manipulating Liam and pull his strings as her puppet to torture and hurt Hope, which Hope deserves it for what she did to her. However, not with Ivy, no. Steffy went after Liam to keep him away from her, hoping she could see Liam for who he really is. Steffy's no fool nor stupid. She knew Ivy didn't know Liam that well, didn't love her, and wasn't committed to her and their relationship, just when she came back from Paris. The truth is Ivy and especially Hope never knew Steffy's real intentions to this day. But what surprises me the most is Ivy didn't see Steffy uses her body and her sexuality as instruments of manipulation at Liam.
@@sherell273 I do not totally agree with what you say about the character of Steffy. I do not deny that she manipulated the situation during the events of Aspen and Cabo. But later on, she tried to be a better person without manipulation and tricks. Liam started to fall in love with Steffy when he saved her from drowning and then she was there for him when Hope couldn't. We must not forget that Liam and Steffy started to be friends, when the Brooke and Oliver scandal erupted. Hope was still in a relationship with Oliver and was forgiving the latter. Hope didn't even know Liam at that time. And then, Hope has some responsibility for her failures with Liam because for a yes or no, she leaves him constantly, instead of communicating. Liam didn't have a knife to his throat to be with Steffy, he does it to his heart and soul. If Liam really wanted to be with Ivy or Hope, he would have cleared things up with Steffy right away. There wouldn't have been a rivalry if Liam really wanted Hope and not Steffy. We agree that Steffy behaved badly and was not innocent but Hope also made mistakes towards Liam and also Wyatt when Steffy was not in the picture of this "Liam-Hope-Wyatt" triangle. Hope also committed adulteries when Liam was still married to Steffy. So in the story, no one is innocent. If I had a beautiful body like the character of Steffy, I would have highlighted my forms like her. it's not bad to do that as long as there is no cheating. Hope and Steffy each have qualities. Hope is less into the sensuality but with a good background as in the sentimental. but Steffy is more into sensuality but she is very impulsive and adventurous. Liam, I think he's looking for the qualities that Hope and Steffy have each but in one person. He can never really choose one of the two. He will always make moves in between
🤦♀️Bless Katie, i know her hearts in the right place, just would of thought Katie would of learnt her lesson, considering Brookes past, being in love with her husband, nearly marrying him now convincing Brooke to do something she doesn't want to do.
Even after all this. Wyatt still went after another one of Liam's exes. If ivy wasn't over him and they weren't even together a year. Did he really think Steffy would be after an unexplained "disappearance'
This scene should be Ivy lash out at Liam with anger, pain and heartache by let him have it hard, kick him to the curb and out of her life for good. That could've happened, would be epic and electrifying, but no, the writers always ruin everything for the characters in their storylines.
Ivy would never get herself deeply involved with Liam in the first place, if she knew, realized, and understood how he's totally damage goods and his life is upside down. And top of that, Ivy would see Steffy using her sexuality and put on a lingerie as her tools; instruments of manipulations to control Liam and pull his strings that destroyed him. Also she would've call out Steffy's manipulations and keep questioning her real motives and intentions
Ivy had a good man in Wyatt, a man who loved and only her and was over his chance with Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy that should have been Ivy's clue to leave it be. First Thomas and now Liam. She's been doing Wyatt so dirty. Yet she is the "good person". Love how these girls love to hold themselves on a pedestal over Steffy to only fall hard while continually judging her. Steffy don't pretend for Liam she is who she is. Liam see that even though he don;'t like it some times. But these girls try to be the girls they think Liam wants them to be. Then when they try to act like Steffy he doesn't buy it then they get mad.Quinn tore off that band aid Liam couldn't do himself. I thought that Wyatt heard her say it. I guess he didn't or thought that it was innocent.
So Steffy once again slu**ed her way into Liam's relationship this time with Ivy, and Ivy is the bad one because she never got over Liam all the way but she did love Wyatt and was definitely better for him than Steffy
Exactly! Nothing special about Liam. He's extremely damage goods and destroyed by Steffy, thanks to Hope because of what she did to Steffy. Ivy never knew that about Liam.
It’s funny how Wyatt is always there for Liam when he needs help but Liam never reciprocates that for Wyatt
I don't completed blame Liam for not always vounching for Wyatt because of how he relentlessly pursued Hope. Don't believe Liam ever really got past that phase and thus would always allow Wyatt to be played for a fool. And of seems that Wyatt would constantly try to attach himself to Liam's exes in some attempt to not feel inferior.
Wyatt and Liam's relationship as brother only really solidified after Wyatt stopped trying to be in competition with Liam.
Don't blame Wyatt for being pissed
Quinn is always entertaining, love her line, Mr. Liam the Rescue Ranger , glad Wyatt knows the truth now
Ivy: I almost died Wyatt
Wyatt: Omg who cares?!!!
I screamed😂😂😂😂😂 when Wyatt gets riled up, he let's anyone have it
Lol i said damn
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Wyatt always says the right stuff at the right time 😂😂😂😂❤❤
LOL
I do think no matter how hard Liam tries to avoid it he will always go back to Steffy.
The fact is Ivy loves Liam so much that she ignores the truth about him and who he really is. She barely knew him from day one.
I’m so glad Quinn lit into Liam, he’s the worst brother, just standing letting Wyatt propose. He never has Wyatt’s back. And Wyatt was great in these scenes.
@RealTakerslady I agree 110% but Why-it brings this on himself, stop getting involved with women that are still in love with Liam. Hope, Ivy and Steffi and when it gets the woman with Quinn's help he belittle Liam and when they leave him, he begs them not to leave him. I don't feel sorry for him
@@AD-tw9yu new ep Liam is after Steffy .
I just love Quinn and her crazy self
🍋🍋/🍋?
@@Dragon-Slay3r why lvy and quinn left the show ??.
Ivy ; i almost died wyatt
Wyatt ; OMG who cares
Me ; ouch that hurt i care lol
I feel bad for Wyatt ❤️😭💔
Wyatt keeps shooting himself in the foot by going after women who had a history with his brother first Hope then Steffy then Ivy and later Sally the only women he's been with that hasn't been his brother is Flo
@@robindeas1610 and Katie.
@@msrain1235 eww Katie too Jesus 😑
Liam should have told Wyatt and Liam should have put Ivy in her place. And one more thing Liam only was with Ivy because he didn't have Steffy. He tells Ivy what she needs to hear. Liam loves Steffy.
ivy thinks she can compete with Steffy lol
Because she had it so easy with Hope. Liam sent for Steffy, and then committed himself her. That says a lot!
Ivy doesn't hold a candle to Steffy
Ivy can't compete with Steffy when it comes to liam.Liam is torn between two women and Ivy is not one of them.
Yes it is a hard to compete with a slut like Steffy because all the men know she will lie on her back for all of them
@@ericacooper336 That's such a true statement.
6:32 "Mr. Liam the Rescue Ranger" that's a great line Quinn
😆😆😆😆😆 That Was A Good One
Yes it was !!
Katie will never learn. She deserves what's comming next.
She sets up her next downfall with eyes wide open.
Even Katie can't be that stupid.
Lol. You know as much as Quinn messes up she's still wyatts mother.
Exactly
Liam has always loved Steffy and you knew that Ivy! And Liam always will even if he’s with Hopeless
Michelle Hancock plz Liam loves hope, always have always will, do u still say that now knowing hope has his child
@@calentbibbs2883 Not trying to be rude jumping in, but YES! Liam loves Steffy and Hope's baby was not a planned pregnancy. He chose Steffy but Hope ended up pregnant.
@@jacksonholland1389 but he get jelous of Setffy dating again why ?.
@@michellelohde8729 Because he is still in love with Steffy. Did you see it another way?
@@jacksonholland1389 why he with hope ?.
"Oh my god who cares!" 🤣🤣
I'm glad Wyatt learned his lesson after Steffy, that he shouldn't be with women who had past relationships with his brother. Hope, she still had feelings for Liam and stayed with Wyatt because she was pregnant with his child, and Quinn was an issue. Ivy still had feelings for Liam, and Quinn actually didn't do anything to ruin that relationship, that was all on Ivy. Steffy and Wyatt grew close, while Quinn was holding Liam hostage, and they got married. Once Steffy find out what Quinn did, she didn't want to have anything to do with her, and her marriage with Wyatt ended, because Quinn got involved with Eric.
Im glad 4 that breakdown I was wondering what happened. She Quinn kidnapped Liam.
Hope only stayed because she was pregnant but Steffy actually tried to have a marriage but Quinn being crazy and Wyatt was a mommy’s boy
This episode was so gut wrenching to watch. Just think about it; If you was present when this happened to a guy you cared about and he honestly didn't deserve it...would you want to be labeled as another woman who did this to him too? Even though Steffy honored her marriage to Wyatt because she actually did love Wyatt and adored him for what he was able to do for in such a short while...There was no way she was gonna leave Wyatt for Liam just because Liam wanted her too. She wasn't gonna burn Wyatt like Hope and Ivy did. Unlike Hope...When Steffy married Wyatt she meant her vows even though she still loved Liam and felt they were robbed by Quinn and her scam.
No, Ivy! Steffy didn't stole Liam away from you nor your life turned upside down when she came back from Paris. Liam destroyed your relationship with him by abandoned you for his lust and infatuation he's still has for Steffy.
“Liam the rescue ranger” Queen Quinn stating facts lol 😂
Katy is crazy!! why would she want her sister that cheated with her husband around him every day?? WTF
Ivy the victim. Lol she’s a terrible person who uses everyone else as an excuse. Ivy must be a Logan, lol.
That would make sense lol
Ivy didn't realize Liam was not the guy she thought his was from day one, even way before Steffy came back from Paris. If she really did, she would see Liam's damage goods and won't get deep involved with him. She would've let him have it, kick him to the curb by hit it where it hurts, and out of her life, and than tell Steffy that she can have him.
Liam never promised Ivy a future. They were dating. He never asked her to move in. He never asked her to marry him. When he realized he still had feelings for Steffy he was honest about it.
Here we go again with Brooke and Bill 🙄
Damn ivy that was so embarrassing... even i felt the shame🤣🤣🤣
Very embarrassing.
Ivy, let's not cry, it looks like we stole a game. First of all, be honest with yourself, you have seen that Steam has a strong connection and even Hope to try to fight against this love. Then, dear Ivy, Steffy never stole Liam from you. Steffy was honest with Liam, if she came back, she wanted him as a professional and personal partner. Liam had the choice of staying with you or going with Steffy, and we know what happens next. If he really loved you as you say, he would have stayed with you. I agree on one point, when Steffy has an idea or someone in mind, she does everything to want what she wants. Hope and Ivy were aware of Steffy's intentions, too easy to blame as Steffy, Liam is also to blame.
@Hanan That's true. Steffy never stole Liam away from Ivy. He was good with Ivy, finally had a peaceful relationship with her until he destroyed his relationship with her for his lust and infatuation he still has for Steffy. Which that's sick and disgusting. The problem is Ivy fell in love with Liam so quickly that she didn't give herself more time to know him and realize he's damaged good when she met him. She was in love with Liam so much that she always keep ignoring the truth about him.
@@sherell273 I find it absurd and really tiring to watch the fans of Hope and Ivy keep blaming Steffy. I agree that Steffy in the past has not been innocent. But Ivy and Hope knew very well Steffy's intentions. Hope and Ivy are equally responsible in the story, and even Liam is to blame in his difunctional relationships. At some point we have to see who is the real problem in this story. It's not always Steffy's fault who knows what she wants and isn't the type to stay mourned over her plight.
@@Hanan2806 That's so true. Even though Steffy is still manipulating Liam and pull his strings as her puppet to torture and hurt Hope, which Hope deserves it for what she did to her. However, not with Ivy, no. Steffy went after Liam to keep him away from her, hoping she could see Liam for who he really is. Steffy's no fool nor stupid. She knew Ivy didn't know Liam that well, didn't love her, and wasn't committed to her and their relationship, just when she came back from Paris. The truth is Ivy and especially Hope never knew Steffy's real intentions to this day. But what surprises me the most is Ivy didn't see Steffy uses her body and her sexuality as instruments of manipulation at Liam.
@@sherell273
I do not totally agree with what you say about the character of Steffy. I do not deny that she manipulated the situation during the events of Aspen and Cabo. But later on, she tried to be a better person without manipulation and tricks. Liam started to fall in love with Steffy when he saved her from drowning and then she was there for him when Hope couldn't. We must not forget that Liam and Steffy started to be friends, when the Brooke and Oliver scandal erupted. Hope was still in a relationship with Oliver and was forgiving the latter. Hope didn't even know Liam at that time. And then, Hope has some responsibility for her failures with Liam because for a yes or no, she leaves him constantly, instead of communicating. Liam didn't have a knife to his throat to be with Steffy, he does it to his heart and soul. If Liam really wanted to be with Ivy or Hope, he would have cleared things up with Steffy right away. There wouldn't have been a rivalry if Liam really wanted Hope and not Steffy. We agree that Steffy behaved badly and was not innocent but Hope also made mistakes towards Liam and also Wyatt when Steffy was not in the picture of this "Liam-Hope-Wyatt" triangle. Hope also committed adulteries when Liam was still married to Steffy. So in the story, no one is innocent.
If I had a beautiful body like the character of Steffy, I would have highlighted my forms like her. it's not bad to do that as long as there is no cheating. Hope and Steffy each have qualities. Hope is less into the sensuality but with a good background as in the sentimental. but Steffy is more into sensuality but she is very impulsive and adventurous.
Liam, I think he's looking for the qualities that Hope and Steffy have each but in one person. He can never really choose one of the two. He will always make moves in between
Poisen Ivy.. 😤😤😤
Brooke and her dangerous thoughts! Haha.
Thank goodness wyatt has found flo. She's a better fit for him
So Brooke is still not over Bill? Or she is just not over the men she loved like Ridge and Bill.
Sandra Arkorful-Chestnut It was like that with Ridge and Nick.
Yep and Ridge and Nick are brothers @antoniusjohnson3824
Are we sure that Ivy isn't a Logan??!! HAHA because sh's sure acting like one lol
Plus, Ivy would've call Wyatt out as well by confront him that he wants what Liam has and jealous of him.
Steffy actually feels bad for Wyatt even she doesn't care for him. That's the first.
She cares about him. She is just not in love with him.
🤦♀️Bless Katie, i know her hearts in the right place, just would of thought Katie would of learnt her lesson, considering Brookes past, being in love with her husband, nearly marrying him now convincing Brooke to do something she doesn't want to do.
Damn Ivy how many chances you want 🙄
Brooke can go back to Forrester, so why would she accept a job at SP? Esp she still has a thing for Bill
Man...THREE different women love Liam more than Wyatt. Sucks to be him and its heartbreaking, in fact.
Rescue Ranger 😂
Even after all this. Wyatt still went after another one of Liam's exes. If ivy wasn't over him and they weren't even together a year. Did he really think Steffy would be after an unexplained "disappearance'
😉exactly😉
Ivy is crazy, like NO one can steal a person from someone they never was yours in the first place 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
This scene should be Ivy lash out at Liam with anger, pain and heartache by let him have it hard, kick him to the curb and out of her life for good. That could've happened, would be epic and electrifying, but no, the writers always ruin everything for the characters in their storylines.
Ivy...please don't flatter urself!! U could never turn into Queen Steffy, I mean she cute and everything, but she is BORRIINNGG!! JUST LIKE HOPELESS!!
Ivy would never get herself deeply involved with Liam in the first place, if she knew, realized, and understood how he's totally damage goods and his life is upside down. And top of that, Ivy would see Steffy using her sexuality and put on a lingerie as her tools; instruments of manipulations to control Liam and pull his strings that destroyed him. Also she would've call out Steffy's manipulations and keep questioning her real motives and intentions
Ivy had a good man in Wyatt, a man who loved and only her and was over his chance with Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy that should have been Ivy's clue to leave it be. First Thomas and now Liam. She's been doing Wyatt so dirty. Yet she is the "good person". Love how these girls love to hold themselves on a pedestal over Steffy to only fall hard while continually judging her. Steffy don't pretend for Liam she is who she is. Liam see that even though he don;'t like it some times. But these girls try to be the girls they think Liam wants them to be. Then when they try to act like Steffy he doesn't buy it then they get mad.Quinn tore off that band aid Liam couldn't do himself. I thought that Wyatt heard her say it. I guess he didn't or thought that it was innocent.
Wyatt oh plz u went after all ur brother X's u would always be second choice
Neesha Anthony what cousin goes after their cousins boyfriend? Ivy is lowdown
Neesha Anthony Liam is he reason Steffy came back, he sent for her. This is on Ivy only.
Neesha Anthony Thomas and Ivy refer to themselves as cousins despite not being blood related, which makes Thomas sick for going after her.
Quinn must've forgotten when she had wanted Liam all to herself also. Adam and Eve ring a bell Quinn? Lol
That hadn't happened yet.
This is just before Adam and Eve, a month or so...
Okay and she’s still his mom
Iam glad they sent Poison Ivy back down under!
She treats him like Sloppy seconds go for you Wyatt by shoving her out that door.
Ivy with this word stole???😈👿🐍🐍
So Steffy once again slu**ed her way into Liam's relationship this time with Ivy, and Ivy is the bad one because she never got over Liam all the way but she did love Wyatt and was definitely better for him than Steffy
Wasent Wyatt with hope????
O man she didn't to herself only ivy
Wyatt tell Ivy to pack her bags !!!
How many second chances ivy is asling 🤦♀️?!
What is so special an Liam?
I would like to know the answer to this myself! I don't get what's so great about him!
Exactly! Nothing special about Liam. He's extremely damage goods and destroyed by Steffy, thanks to Hope because of what she did to Steffy. Ivy never knew that about Liam.
Wyatt stay getting screwed over by women for his waffle brother
Ivy you are no hope calm down...
Even though Wyatt was her second choice and she was never going to tell him I still felt bad for Ivy here.
I didn't, she placed Liam in a bad situation. Him and Wyatt was finally getting close, and she ruined it with her jealousy.
Neesha Anthony actually Liam brought Steffy back 🤦🏽♀️
@@debbiedullabaun5928 Steffy was already back
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Wyatt always chasing involved women .. u will always be second ..
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