Peter Gabriel is one of the most important, influential and groundbreaking artists ever. When I first heard Biko I cried so much, we all had fought the campaign against the terrible apartheid regime in South Africa for so long, the hope ,the pain, the struggle and the crushing murder of such a leader was devastating and you could feel the emotions and heartbreak of a nation in the song. The Special A K A's song Free Nelson Mandela was pivotal also.(never forget the soulless Thatcher supported the apartheid regime) Peter Gabriel has always championed the oppressed, showcased their talents when they could not be free to do so and given amazing world musicians the acclaim and accolade that they so deserved in creating his fantastic WOMAD festival. His music is brilliant and evocative from Solibury Hill to Games Without Frontiers to I Grieve. He is a living legend 👋
Britpop wouldn't have existed without inspiration from Paul Weller,affectionately known as the Modfather he was very successful in The Jam,Style Council and his excellent solo career. Check out Stanley Road or Days of Speed and you'll discover he is anything but an "obscure guitar player"
Absolutely love Peter Gabriel. Biko always makes me cry, but it's so important to be made aware of the wrongs of the world, no matter how difficult they are to hear.
Peter Gabriel is one of a kind, as is Kate Bush - two sides of the same coin. Two elite music artists who had more to say than almost anyone else. Who have we got out there today anywhere near being in the same league.
Thank you for your commentary - I listen to music, but as a non-musician it's fascinating to hear your explanations of the various elements of recording. One of the reasons I always look for your reactions is the way you always dig a bit deeper, rather than just blindly following the narrative, so thanks again.
i love how these videos highlight the special things that those artists brought to the world. you dont know these things unless you are a fan. its so interesting and so inspiring! it really makes me think about my life and what to do with it.
Really enjoying your reaction to the New British Cannon series of Vids, particularly you inout as a sound engineer. As someone born in 1964 Manchester England these events happened “Around my time” so to speak. On the Prodigy one there was a reference to Grandmaster Flash, well I can tell you all I used to listen to was Rock / Metal until 1983 when I first heard White Lines and my musical tastes expanded exponentially from there on. Keep up the good work and if you are wondering who the hell is watching in Thailand, that will be me
Ever since I heard the live version of Biko in the late 80's, I'd wanted to hear it live. I achieved that when I saw him live in 2023 in Manchester as part of the UK leg of his I/O tour. He was amazing.
I've really been enjoying watching this series with you. Your insights and explanations are so helpful and interesting. This has been my favourite so far. Sledgehammer was probably when I first became aware of Peter Gabriel. The song with Kate Bush is beautiful. I remember being mesmerised by watching them slowly turning together in the video! Also though, Paul Weller an 'obscure' guitarist? 🤔😂
I went to college with the two Animators who made Sledgehammer! I remember the stress they were under because of how important it was! The guy who invented Pepper Pig was also in that year!
@@JJLAReacts They were students and this could have been their big break - I remember how seriously they took it! You've seen the result - it made them stars in the UK Animation world!
He didn't loose money by wasting time in the studio because he owns it. The studio is between the town of Box and the city of Bath: on Solisbury hill! I used to drive passed it regularly. (So the city lights in the song are Bath).
I'm already subbed to Trash Theory but I hadn't seen this video. I'm glad to watch it here as you made it so engaging with all your stories and insights. There's so much I didn't know about Peter Gabriel - his Biko song was the one that hit me hard and that song brought awareness of the cruelty and brutality of apartheid to many people.
This was so interesting, thank you. Kate Bush is my favourite female singer, but I never knew she sang on Games Without Frontiers. Give their song Don't Give Up a listen, but be prepared it will probably make you cry. But it's genius.
Keep this in mind as well. Scorcese hired Peter to do the sound track for Last Temptation of Christ in the late 80's. He created an album called Passion in which he used only instruments available at the time of Christ in Northern Africa. The man was frustratingly adamant in what he would involve himself in. That album rocks, by the way.
The irony of the video being banned from TotP is of course that a large number of people involved with that show at that time were later locked up as part of Operation Yewtree (or were well aware of the shady nonces they employed)
I think the song Biko changed my life. As a young teen troubled by what I saw happening in the world around me, it touched me and made me realise that I wasn't alone, that my instinctive rejection of the cruelty, bigotry and greed of 80s politics and society wasn't crazy.
thoroughly enjoying you reacting to this channels stuff. biko was a movement. heard across the world and the world woke up a bit more. the duet with kate bush is beautiful.
It's notable that he surrounded himself with artists who were also of a very high standard and that they were all apparently so open to collaborations. You can often gauge the quality of an artist by the calibre of their artistic collaborators.
I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan. Red Rain is one of the greatest and most beautiful songs ever written, in my opinion. You should watch the concert at Red Rocks in like 2003 i think it was. There's a lot more to see since then, but Ive watched that several times and it just holds a particular place in my heart. Such a pioneer and important part of our musical history in so many genres! and generations! great video
Stevie Van Zandt's response to Gabriel was to figurehead the musical response to the anti-apartheid movement in the US and arrange a lot of artists to collaborate on the "(we won't play) Sun City" single. The Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple documentary is an excellent watch, goes into the early Springsteen history and Steve's life - so you get some Sopranos stuff in there too.
"Orphan" was not an album. Chartmasters usually estimate sales for each song, also for the ones who are not on any studio album, those are the ones that they call "orphan".
And I never knew Kate Bush provided the Jeux sans Frontiers vocals! Now I've been told- of course it's her voice! Growing up in the UK in the 70s we all watched 'It's a Knockout', the UK heats of Jeux sans Frontiers, on TV - and then watched the international show with its french title intact. So on one level it was a very familiar idea- but if you listenedto the words it meant so much more. I can believe it was as successful as Sledgehammer - it was everywhere at the time. I'm not sure about the sweeping statement about Apartheid South Africa not being on people's radar until the music industry started drawing more attention to it. As a teenager I was VERY aware of the shocking news stories coming out of the townships in the late 70's. Sure, international music stars added to the mix - but it wasn't new. Love your 'sound engineering for dummies' additions to these documentaries. (I am that dummy, and now I know at least something, and will be spotting 'gated reverbs' on music I hear!)
Peter Gabriel has always been broadly quite progressive with the topics of the songs he’s written and sung, don’t think it’s accurate to say he “became political” with the Melt album. Selling England by the Pound for instance (maybe my fav Genesis album) is all about Britain losing its identity to Americanisation, and it’s title holds even more relevance to this day given the Thatcher sell off of state enterprises and privatisations, that Prime Minister Harold Macmillan described infamously as selling the family silver.
Thanks for the video, its nice that you're learning that the British bands that might have had that 1 big "bubblegum" pop hit in the US usually had a much deeper musical back story in the UK and Europe. Maybe Kate Bush next? I'm still pushing for Bananarama who in the early '80s had post punk credibility until the big Pop Smash Hit! I just noticed Trash Theory has recently done Adam and the Ants, again a group that were originally taken seriously (Kings of the wild frontier album) before marketing execs got hold of them.
Kate Bush is definitely Peter Gabriel's female counterpart, although she has also been likened to the female David Bowie, but be truthful Kate is Kate, she's unique. I've been very lucky to see Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush playing live. Since you don't seem to be that familiar with Kate Bush, the same TH-cam has two videos about Kate Bush. the first one is about her debut single "Wuthering Heights," and the second one is how she became the Queen of Alt-pop.
@@JJLAReacts Yes you did. I wasn't sure if you were being serious and in need of a lot more musical education. Next up Paul Weller, The Jam and The Style Council. Weller didn't talk to the other members of The Jam for decades.
The trouble with The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway as a concept album is that the narrative thread makes less sense than forcing a narrative thread through any 20 randomly selected songs.
I only really know his songs Don't Give Up and Sledgehammer, but my husband is a fan and sometimes in the car we're listening to him without me realising it. He's definitely on our list to see live.
In light of what went on at top of the pops with ( Saville , Glitter and Harris etcetera ) I wouldn't have thought they would have had any concerns about adults preying on young children and if that is not ironic enough you could also add one of the t.v hosts of "It's a knockout " to that dodgy list of adults !
Gabriel is a true legend. Brilliant music for decades. Also worth checking out XTC… one of the greatest pop bands since The Beatles. They have a vast catalog. Check out “SENSES WORKING OVERTIME,” “COMPLICATED GAME,” “HARVEST FESTIVAL” and “JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS” would give you a great idea of their diversity and brilliance. Also their album, “DRUMS AND WIRES” was the first of the gated reverb trail that went XTC - PETER GABRIEL - PHIL COLLINS (“In The Air Tonight”) that would become so famous. Hugh Padgham and Steve Lillywhite produced that XTC album. One more thing: That “obscure guitar player” was actually singer / songwriter Paul Weller of THE JAM… who were HUGE in England and are one of the greatest bands in UK history. They, too, are worthy of checking out. (Try “DOWN IN THE TUBE STATION AT MIDNIGHT,” or “THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT,” or “GOING UNDERGROUND.”) Peter Gabriel’s third album. opened up a new world of brilliant music for me (XTC, The Jam, Kate Bush, Fripp, etc.). It’s probably the most consequential album I’ve ever heard. Cheers!
Realworld is my favourite record lab le. Womad is the only music festival I would still like to go to. Osebisa we're having hit LPS in the early 70s in UK, they were from east Africa.
There's a great video of Dave Grohl and the late Taylor Hawkins doing cymbal separation while recording Subterranean. They joke about Dave singing on stage with cymbals
I saw Gabriel at Glastonbury '94. It wasn't exactly what I was there for :) As for Robert Fripp you should check out the channel he has with his wife Toyah (who is an icon for Brits of my age and a mega pop star and actress) they have a playlist of them doing covers in their kitchen each Sunday th-cam.com/play/PL1qNbAuf8-7pxyzAp50IKl3SCtQtEYJKq.html. As a guitarist and engineer you might have read the term Frippertronics to describe a type of analog tape looping that Eno introduced him to and became a big part of his sound.
I shouldn't have posted so quickly. As a sign of the times my University Student Union Bar (yes our universities have Bars run by the students that had gigs and cheap booze, a very different culture) had a Steve Biko Bar. To make sure we didn't forget the struggle in South Africa as we got completely hammered and tried to get laid at a disco put on by the Goth Society :) Many universities had a Biko Bar.
Gabriel & Bush are two sides of the same coin - British rock's most uncompromising artistic free spirits. Genius is overused but definitely applies to both
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It beggars belief that the BBC had problems with Games without Frontiers when they were still platforming the likes of Saville and Glitter. Gabriel opened my eyes to so much as a teen. I named my pet duck Biko, he was a white Aylesbury. God I’m ashamed of my teenaged self but miss those innocent years.
Paul Weller was not obscure he was a house hold name...... everybody knew him in the UK. With that said great vid, I did enjoy. Thanks for your time JJLA.
You know just because someone isn't famous in the US doesn't mean they are obscure or nothing. Their is a great many artists or bands you guys in US don't know but the rest of the world know
I've always had this thing with American music. They think corporate billboard placement is more important than artistic interpretation. I'm South African, and Steve Biko came from my area, and there's a bridge named after him in my city. All that music came through to SA and caused a lot of anti-apartheid sentiment. I would rather listen to music with the story than ridiculous 4-cord rubbish.
I urge to watch Cry Freedom is a 1987 epic biographical drama film directed and produced by Richard Attenborough, set in late-1970s apartheid-era South Africa.
Peter Gabriel is fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of his prog Genesis roots nor of his overtly political material, but there are so many great songs from his solo career especially through the 80s and 90s when he just kept getting better and better. His "Secret World Live" tour is one of the best concerts I've ever seen (with Paula Cole providing the excellent female vocal performance too), and he continues to be innovative. As for the rumours of a bad relationship between Gabriel and Phil Collins, that might have originated because there must have been occasions when they were both in Genesis when they had some differences, but from all I've read and heard, it never was a major long-lasting thing and this video confirms that, highlighting that they worked together on various pieces after Gabriel had left Genesis. Most recently, Gabriel attended the final Genesis concert to show his support, which was great to see now that Collins is so ill and the band will now never perform again, it seems.
43:28 - The Jam, Style Council, his solo career - though he may have had less success in the USA, Paul Weller is hardly obscure! Sorry, JJLA, you're dead wrong there. As punishment, we should challenge you to do a deep dive into Paul Weller next! Trust me, it will be interesting, because he's had an extensive and varied career that takes in punk and post-punk, jazz and soulful influences, and he's been a mentor and inspiration to many UK artists since the 1970s.
Thought I knew pretty much everything 'album' wise when it came to Genesis, but cannot for the life of me recall any release called 'Orphan' ??? It's listed as their last album on the graph bought up around the 7:15 mark. I'm confused.
Paul Weller, some 'obscure guitar player' You should get that on a t-shirt and visit the UK wearing it. And see how many negative comments people shout at you!!!
Believe it or not, the only reason why he got to Sing, is because he didn’t want to sing, but on one occasion he got so frustrated with a singer that they really wanted, that he went over to say and show him how to do it, when the band looked at each other, then look back they said you are it
It's funny, but whenever I introduce anyone I know to almost any XTC music the reaction is almost always, "that's really good". Yet XTC pretty much stayed under the radar to greatness, although they were brilliant. BTW, I'm also here for Peter Gabriel too.
I really think you have to rethink your use of 'obscure'...Killdozer or Dog Faced Hermans or the first Broadcast single might be considered obscure but not a any song by Peter Gabriel and certainly not Paul Weller (I enjoy all equally by the way).
@JJLAReacts, given your music industry background and media familiarity it would be interesting to hear you react to Ren’s ‘Losing it’ 🤞🏻 th-cam.com/video/mLvAGjhDssc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e9KaRPMhdzQJt9mz
It is so cool that Genesis stepped up to the plate, took the time, and joined with him for a huge fund-raiser that got him out of debt. True friends and a heartwarming story. We all can use a warm heart, once in awhile.
Your knowledge of brit music is good but calling Paul Weller an "obscure guitarist" upsets us Brits as he was very well known back then and is an iconic figure now.
Peter Gabriel is one of the most important, influential and groundbreaking artists ever. When I first heard Biko I cried so much, we all had fought the campaign against the terrible apartheid regime in South Africa for so long, the hope ,the pain, the struggle and the crushing murder of such a leader was devastating and you could feel the emotions and heartbreak of a nation in the song. The Special A K A's song Free Nelson Mandela was pivotal also.(never forget the soulless Thatcher supported the apartheid regime) Peter Gabriel has always championed the oppressed, showcased their talents when they could not be free to do so and given amazing world musicians the acclaim and accolade that they so deserved in creating his fantastic WOMAD festival. His music is brilliant and evocative from Solibury Hill to Games Without Frontiers to I Grieve. He is a living legend 👋
I have the Biko EP CD still.
Peter Gabriel and kate bush don't give up
Paul Weller obscure lol. He was massive in the uk
Yes, I yelled at the screen when he said that! The Mod Father!
Ridiculous comment.
Britpop wouldn't have existed without inspiration from Paul Weller,affectionately known as the Modfather he was very successful in The Jam,Style Council and his excellent solo career. Check out Stanley Road or Days of Speed and you'll discover he is anything but an "obscure guitar player"
An obscure guitar player 😂😂
Peter Gabriel's song Don't Give Up with Kate Bush is so moving! It always makes me think and cry
Absolutely love Peter Gabriel. Biko always makes me cry, but it's so important to be made aware of the wrongs of the world, no matter how difficult they are to hear.
Peter Gabriel is one of a kind, as is Kate Bush - two sides of the same coin. Two elite music artists who had more to say than almost anyone else. Who have we got out there today anywhere near being in the same league.
Paul Weller - This obscure guitar player )))
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Paul Weller being dismissed as an “obscure guitar player”😮😂😂😂
Had a good laugh after that especially as he was working on one of my most listened to teen albums
Thank you for your commentary - I listen to music, but as a non-musician it's fascinating to hear your explanations of the various elements of recording. One of the reasons I always look for your reactions is the way you always dig a bit deeper, rather than just blindly following the narrative, so thanks again.
Paul Weller an obscure guitar player, thats very good!!!!! - you should check out The Jam
I’m already a subscriber to trash Theory, but I’m gonna go back and listen to more videos because they are quite revolutionary
Yeah, I’m loving their content!
Same
i love how these videos highlight the special things that those artists brought to the world. you dont know these things unless you are a fan. its so interesting and so inspiring! it really makes me think about my life and what to do with it.
Really enjoying your reaction to the New British Cannon series of Vids, particularly you inout as a sound engineer. As someone born in 1964 Manchester England these events happened “Around my time” so to speak. On the Prodigy one there was a reference to Grandmaster Flash, well I can tell you all I used to listen to was Rock / Metal until 1983 when I first heard White Lines and my musical tastes expanded exponentially from there on. Keep up the good work and if you are wondering who the hell is watching in Thailand, that will be me
Ever since I heard the live version of Biko in the late 80's, I'd wanted to hear it live. I achieved that when I saw him live in 2023 in Manchester as part of the UK leg of his I/O tour. He was amazing.
Wow...what an experience that must have been.
I've really been enjoying watching this series with you. Your insights and explanations are so helpful and interesting. This has been my favourite so far. Sledgehammer was probably when I first became aware of Peter Gabriel. The song with Kate Bush is beautiful. I remember being mesmerised by watching them slowly turning together in the video!
Also though, Paul Weller an 'obscure' guitarist? 🤔😂
Absolutely brilliant artist saw him play Biko live, the best live artist I have ever seen.
Thanks for this wonderful video
I went to college with the two Animators who made Sledgehammer! I remember the stress they were under because of how important it was! The guy who invented Pepper Pig was also in that year!
Whoa! That must have been grueling work.
@@JJLAReacts They were students and this could have been their big break - I remember how seriously they took it! You've seen the result - it made them stars in the UK Animation world!
Also Nick Park was in that year - the Wallace and Gromit guy! Great year!
He didn't loose money by wasting time in the studio because he owns it. The studio is between the town of Box and the city of Bath: on Solisbury hill! I used to drive passed it regularly. (So the city lights in the song are Bath).
I'm already subbed to Trash Theory but I hadn't seen this video. I'm glad to watch it here as you made it so engaging with all your stories and insights. There's so much I didn't know about Peter Gabriel - his Biko song was the one that hit me hard and that song brought awareness of the cruelty and brutality of apartheid to many people.
Thoroughly enjoyable reaction. ❤. Nicely presented.
The irony of the BBC thinking Games Without Frontiers' video was inappropriate when they were a conveyor belt of Pdos!
My favourite song by Peter Gabriel is and always shall be:
'In Your Eyes' his live version is absolutely fantastic.
This was so interesting, thank you. Kate Bush is my favourite female singer, but I never knew she sang on Games Without Frontiers. Give their song Don't Give Up a listen, but be prepared it will probably make you cry. But it's genius.
Keep this in mind as well. Scorcese hired Peter to do the sound track for Last Temptation of Christ in the late 80's. He created an album called Passion in which he used only instruments available at the time of Christ in Northern Africa. The man was frustratingly adamant in what he would involve himself in. That album rocks, by the way.
The irony of the video being banned from TotP is of course that a large number of people involved with that show at that time were later locked up as part of Operation Yewtree (or were well aware of the shady nonces they employed)
i was thinking the same thing.
i feel the same about the sledgehammer video! 🧡 and now we have youtube and can watch it as often as we want! i am gonna watch it right now.
I think the song Biko changed my life. As a young teen troubled by what I saw happening in the world around me, it touched me and made me realise that I wasn't alone, that my instinctive rejection of the cruelty, bigotry and greed of 80s politics and society wasn't crazy.
thoroughly enjoying you reacting to this channels stuff. biko was a movement. heard across the world and the world woke up a bit more. the duet with kate bush is beautiful.
Love Peter Gabriel ❤ Driving in the country on a fine day, listening to Solsbury Hill is a happy place for me. His protest song Biko is wonderful too.
It's notable that he surrounded himself with artists who were also of a very high standard and that they were all apparently so open to collaborations. You can often gauge the quality of an artist by the calibre of their artistic collaborators.
You should check out Gabriel's 10 minute performance of 'In Your Eyes' from his Secret World tour. It's on TH-cam and it's all kind of awesome.
I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan. Red Rain is one of the greatest and most beautiful songs ever written, in my opinion. You should watch the concert at Red Rocks in like 2003 i think it was. There's a lot more to see since then, but Ive watched that several times and it just holds a particular place in my heart. Such a pioneer and important part of our musical history in so many genres! and generations! great video
Miami Vice owes this man billions! One love from Scotland. 💙
Stevie Van Zandt's response to Gabriel was to figurehead the musical response to the anti-apartheid movement in the US and arrange a lot of artists to collaborate on the "(we won't play) Sun City" single.
The Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple documentary is an excellent watch, goes into the early Springsteen history and Steve's life - so you get some Sopranos stuff in there too.
Huge early Genesis fan, brilliant music, will be played forever, sadly they went commercial, so sad
"Orphan" was not an album. Chartmasters usually estimate sales for each song, also for the ones who are not on any studio album, those are the ones that they call "orphan".
Mandela himself said that Biko was the better man.
Denzel Washington played Biko in an early film of his, it’s worth catching
Oh! He’s one of my favorite actors, I need to see that, thanks!
I've seen Peter Gabriel live three different times. He usually closes his shows with either, In Your Eyes, or Biko.
And I never knew Kate Bush provided the Jeux sans Frontiers vocals! Now I've been told- of course it's her voice!
Growing up in the UK in the 70s we all watched 'It's a Knockout', the UK heats of Jeux sans Frontiers, on TV - and then watched the international show with its french title intact. So on one level it was a very familiar idea- but if you listenedto the words it meant so much more.
I can believe it was as successful as Sledgehammer - it was everywhere at the time.
I'm not sure about the sweeping statement about Apartheid South Africa not being on people's radar until the music industry started drawing more attention to it. As a teenager I was VERY aware of the shocking news stories coming out of the townships in the late 70's. Sure, international music stars added to the mix - but it wasn't new.
Love your 'sound engineering for dummies' additions to these documentaries. (I am that dummy, and now I know at least something, and will be spotting 'gated reverbs' on music I hear!)
Peter Gabriel has always been broadly quite progressive with the topics of the songs he’s written and sung, don’t think it’s accurate to say he “became political” with the Melt album.
Selling England by the Pound for instance (maybe my fav Genesis album) is all about Britain losing its identity to Americanisation, and it’s title holds even more relevance to this day given the Thatcher sell off of state enterprises and privatisations, that Prime Minister Harold Macmillan described infamously as selling the family silver.
Obscure guitarist. From probably the biggest band in Britain at the time.
Great reaction!
I owe a lot to Gabriel and Real World, the world music label he founded. Really opened my mind. That and David Byrne's Luaka Bop label.
Their genesis live album from the early 70s pretty much sums up their early sound its excellent
I remember seeing him at Lancaster University in the late 70,s. Salisbury Hill is a classic
Thanks for the video, its nice that you're learning that the British bands that might have had that 1 big "bubblegum" pop hit in the US usually had a much deeper musical back story in the UK and Europe. Maybe Kate Bush next?
I'm still pushing for Bananarama who in the early '80s had post punk credibility until the big Pop Smash Hit!
I just noticed Trash Theory has recently done Adam and the Ants, again a group that were originally taken seriously (Kings of the wild frontier album) before marketing execs got hold of them.
Hey JJ weren't you in a band at some point think it was called the "Walking Dead" Didn't you perform in a packed-out barn?
Kate Bush is definitely Peter Gabriel's female counterpart, although she has also been likened to the female David Bowie, but be truthful Kate is Kate, she's unique.
I've been very lucky to see Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush playing live.
Since you don't seem to be that familiar with Kate Bush, the same TH-cam has two videos about Kate Bush. the first one is about her debut single "Wuthering Heights," and the second one is how she became the Queen of Alt-pop.
Did JJ just call Paul Weller ...............OBSCURE?
Did I? 🤔
@@JJLAReacts Yes you did. I wasn't sure if you were being serious and in need of a lot more musical education. Next up Paul Weller, The Jam and The Style Council. Weller didn't talk to the other members of The Jam for decades.
@@JJLAReacts Yes, you did. Time for more edumacation, I'd say
@JJLAReacts you have to do Paul Weller now 🎉
@@JJLAReacts lol need to research paul Weller
The trouble with The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway as a concept album is that the narrative thread makes less sense than forcing a narrative thread through any 20 randomly selected songs.
"Forcing a narrative thread" - so you prefer Joe's Garage?
Mate, the man said he built his own studio so that was an expense he didn't have to worry about.
I only really know his songs Don't Give Up and Sledgehammer, but my husband is a fan and sometimes in the car we're listening to him without me realising it. He's definitely on our list to see live.
XTC's Drums & Wires is an incredible album
The mainstreamification of Genesis is better identified with the later departure of Steve Hackett (guitar) than the departure of PG.
In light of what went on at top of the pops with ( Saville , Glitter and Harris etcetera ) I wouldn't have thought they would have had any concerns about adults preying on young children and if that is not ironic enough you could also add one of the t.v hosts of "It's a knockout " to that dodgy list of adults !
Gabriel is a true legend. Brilliant music for decades. Also worth checking out XTC… one of the greatest pop bands since The Beatles. They have a vast catalog. Check out “SENSES WORKING OVERTIME,” “COMPLICATED GAME,” “HARVEST FESTIVAL” and “JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS” would give you a great idea of their diversity and brilliance. Also their album, “DRUMS AND WIRES” was the first of the gated reverb trail that went XTC - PETER GABRIEL - PHIL COLLINS (“In The Air Tonight”) that would become so famous. Hugh Padgham and Steve Lillywhite produced that XTC album.
One more thing: That “obscure guitar player” was actually singer / songwriter Paul Weller of THE JAM… who were HUGE in England and are one of the greatest bands in UK history. They, too, are worthy of checking out. (Try “DOWN IN THE TUBE STATION AT MIDNIGHT,” or “THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT,” or “GOING UNDERGROUND.”) Peter Gabriel’s third album. opened up a new world of brilliant music for me (XTC, The Jam, Kate Bush, Fripp, etc.). It’s probably the most consequential album I’ve ever heard.
Cheers!
Realworld is my favourite record lab le.
Womad is the only music festival I would still like to go to.
Osebisa we're having hit LPS in the early 70s in UK, they were from east Africa.
They missed the free Mandela concert out, which was Massive in London
Thanks
There's a great video of Dave Grohl and the late Taylor Hawkins doing cymbal separation while recording Subterranean. They joke about Dave singing on stage with cymbals
I saw Gabriel at Glastonbury '94. It wasn't exactly what I was there for :) As for Robert Fripp you should check out the channel he has with his wife Toyah (who is an icon for Brits of my age and a mega pop star and actress) they have a playlist of them doing covers in their kitchen each Sunday th-cam.com/play/PL1qNbAuf8-7pxyzAp50IKl3SCtQtEYJKq.html. As a guitarist and engineer you might have read the term Frippertronics to describe a type of analog tape looping that Eno introduced him to and became a big part of his sound.
I shouldn't have posted so quickly. As a sign of the times my University Student Union Bar (yes our universities have Bars run by the students that had gigs and cheap booze, a very different culture) had a Steve Biko Bar. To make sure we didn't forget the struggle in South Africa as we got completely hammered and tried to get laid at a disco put on by the Goth Society :) Many universities had a Biko Bar.
Keep it up loving your channel.
Gabriel & Bush are two sides of the same coin - British rock's most uncompromising artistic free spirits. Genius is overused but definitely applies to both
He sang " don't give up " with Kate bush ...huge unemployment in the U.K. at the time...
'Don't Give Up' is a necessity. Changing the World is what Peter Gabriel is all about.
Let’s be controversial: Biko was what Nelson Mandela wanted to be if you look at history
21:46 big up 👊
Looks like youve got a LOT of Peter Gabriel to lusten to 😊 👍 (and its all brilliant)
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It beggars belief that the BBC had problems with Games without Frontiers when they were still platforming the likes of Saville and Glitter. Gabriel opened my eyes to so much as a teen. I named my pet duck Biko, he was a white Aylesbury. God I’m ashamed of my teenaged self but miss those innocent years.
I had to look up how old he is.. he is 74 and "holding up a middle finger to mortality" 😊
Paul Weller was not obscure he was a house hold name...... everybody knew him in the UK. With that said great vid, I did enjoy. Thanks for your time JJLA.
Paul Weller is a legend!
You know just because someone isn't famous in the US doesn't mean they are obscure or nothing. Their is a great many artists or bands you guys in US don't know but the rest of the world know
I've always had this thing with American music. They think corporate billboard placement is more important than artistic interpretation. I'm South African, and Steve Biko came from my area, and there's a bridge named after him in my city. All that music came through to SA and caused a lot of anti-apartheid sentiment. I would rather listen to music with the story than ridiculous 4-cord rubbish.
Never listened to Genesis after Gabriel left. Just followed him through the years.
I love Peter Gabriel so much. Treat yourself and look for the Secret World Live tour on TH-cam.
He left Genesis before I saw Genesis...but I was young then..
I urge to watch Cry Freedom is a 1987 epic biographical drama film directed and produced by Richard Attenborough, set in late-1970s apartheid-era South Africa.
Peter Gabriel is fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of his prog Genesis roots nor of his overtly political material, but there are so many great songs from his solo career especially through the 80s and 90s when he just kept getting better and better. His "Secret World Live" tour is one of the best concerts I've ever seen (with Paula Cole providing the excellent female vocal performance too), and he continues to be innovative.
As for the rumours of a bad relationship between Gabriel and Phil Collins, that might have originated because there must have been occasions when they were both in Genesis when they had some differences, but from all I've read and heard, it never was a major long-lasting thing and this video confirms that, highlighting that they worked together on various pieces after Gabriel had left Genesis. Most recently, Gabriel attended the final Genesis concert to show his support, which was great to see now that Collins is so ill and the band will now never perform again, it seems.
Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot and excellent albums
43:28 - The Jam, Style Council, his solo career - though he may have had less success in the USA, Paul Weller is hardly obscure! Sorry, JJLA, you're dead wrong there.
As punishment, we should challenge you to do a deep dive into Paul Weller next!
Trust me, it will be interesting, because he's had an extensive and varied career that takes in punk and post-punk, jazz and soulful influences, and he's been a mentor and inspiration to many UK artists since the 1970s.
Yes, do check out Peter Gabriel's duet with Kate Bush.
Thought I knew pretty much everything 'album' wise when it came to Genesis, but cannot for the life of me recall any release called 'Orphan' ???
It's listed as their last album on the graph bought up around the 7:15 mark. I'm confused.
PG was in fact very shy he wore the costumes and adopted "characters" as a way to feel less exposed as PG BTW PG was already well of before Genisis
Paul Weller, some 'obscure guitar player'
You should get that on a t-shirt and visit the UK wearing it.
And see how many negative comments people shout at you!!!
Believe it or not, the only reason why he got to Sing, is because he didn’t want to sing, but on one occasion he got so frustrated with a singer that they really wanted, that he went over to say and show him how to do it, when the band looked at each other, then look back they said you are it
Referring to PC - detail omitted
I do much prefer 70s Genesis, with A Trick of the Tail (missing Gabriel, stangely) among my favourites. Oh, and XTC are fantastic.
WOMAD is my favourite music festival, I go every year if I can. If you have one in your country, please go, you'll love it.
It's funny, but whenever I introduce anyone I know to almost any XTC music the reaction is almost always, "that's really good". Yet XTC pretty much stayed under the radar to greatness, although they were brilliant. BTW, I'm also here for Peter Gabriel too.
Please watch the British crusade
I really think you have to rethink your use of 'obscure'...Killdozer or Dog Faced Hermans or the first Broadcast single might be considered obscure but not a any song by Peter Gabriel and certainly not Paul Weller (I enjoy all equally by the way).
Have you not seen Cry Freedom?
@JJLAReacts, given your music industry background and media familiarity it would be interesting to hear you react to Ren’s ‘Losing it’ 🤞🏻
th-cam.com/video/mLvAGjhDssc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e9KaRPMhdzQJt9mz
Financially: They were in the red
It is so cool that Genesis stepped up to the plate, took the time, and joined with him for a huge fund-raiser that got him out of debt. True friends and a heartwarming story.
We all can use a warm heart, once in awhile.
I love Kate Bush's music 🥰
Your knowledge of brit music is good but calling Paul Weller an "obscure guitarist" upsets us Brits as he was very well known back then and is an iconic figure now.
Love your vids dude but educate yourself about Paul Weller
play "you do something to me" by weller and don't gasp?
And Queen ignored apartheid and played there under the regime.