Relay attack real device! Car Theft with DIY Repeater Amplifier - Let's see how we can prevent this
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2022
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Car companies love this weakness - car gets stolen - they get a new sale - why would they want to stop that
I like how you instruct people to use common sense and yet you come out with a comment like this.
Scan with the pouch again, in the video at 8:54 and 8:56, it looked like the analyzer caught something when the pouch was sidewise to the antenna. Nice idea on the video though. Keep warm and healthy.
From technology perspective, you are absolutely correct about the need of enhancing the key fob security. But from the businesses perspective, 1 lost car means 1 new sales.
While that's true getting a brand's products stolen easily hurts the brand.
Also consumers do have limited income so maybe consumers just start buying old cars.
One of my favourite TH-camrs is finally a movie star 😂, great work sorin.
Great job ! big respect for pulling this out and i hope many people will buy this product and sleep good at night not be scared when wake up there is no car outside!
Este bine de știut pentru cei ce nu știu cum funcționează inchiderea/deschiderea cheyless. Bună idee cu acest video altul decât reparații electronice. Multă sănătate și sărbători fericite.
I have one of those black Faraday pouches in your video. I always have my key in that pouch when I am not driving. Just to be on the really safe side, I bought a small Faraday Defense bag to put the pouch in when I am in the house. Thanks for the great video!!
Foarte instructiv! Mulțumesc Sorin!
Sorin you should become an actor too, you look like the mafia boss in the beginning. This is what I love about you, you never know what the next videos will be about haha keep up the awesome work!
When Sorin does something.. he does it in style!...
Nice story film, no auto-focus, no auto-exposure, quality sound, keep up the good work.
And no petrol ..wow 🤣🤣
I loved the cinematic intro,, amazing acting with you and the lady
FANTASTIC information Sorin!!!
Frumos film Sorin . Salutari din Romania
This was great! Nice to see you changing it up.
Brilliant performance, you will be nominated as the best actor. I am glad my cars don't have this keyless entry and keyless start.
😎
Sorin I like your videos, your so smart and your a good teacher too. I agree, a simple switch would have made this so much better for security reasons, or even including a simple part like 223b touch sensor that only has like microamps draining, to only allow keyfob to operate when touched, would have been a much better idea.
For years now our electronics have been forced into Mechless design because we always have such problems with analog devices, like trimmers, volume controls and even switches but it can still be safe if some simple thought is put into it.
Brilliant performances by you all & thanks so much for highlighting such a massive security flaw.
Thankfully, faraday pouches are really cheap nowadays but it also requires vigilance & awareness on the part of people.
Mercedes have at least started to place motion sensors in their key FOBs to make them go to sleep after a while to stop these sorts of attacks.
I also find that washed, dry potato chip/crisps packets seem to work well as "faraday shields".
Another way around it is to teach everyone at home to place their car keys in a faraday box to stop these attacks if they don't have a faraday pouch, or buy a pouch for your family, friends & loved ones this Christmas as a useful present.
As for spectrum analysers, one doesn't even need a PC anymore as the TinySA, standard 800MHz coverage & 6.5GHz coverage is available under "Ultra" versions priced from $80 - $350 & can easily scan the 433-434MHz UHF ISM bands.
I agree, modifying the remote to put a small slide power switch is a good approach & due to the short activation distance I'm surprised that car manufacturers don't also use SHF ISM bands like 24GHz (1.2cm ISM band) which is far more difficult (not impossible!) for consumer level RF test gear to cover.
Wishing you Sorin & all your family a very merry Christmas, happy new year in 2023 with health, happiness & continued success.
73s si salutare, John from Australia
Hey so the TINY SA would work for this ?
U can't do this with TinySA...
"The generator function can not be used as a tracking generator as you can not use the spectrum analyzer and generator functions at the same time."
Wow love the suit and dark glasses. Great mini film but great very important message thanks for drawing attention
Excelent, you are getting bigger every day, Congrats!
What a fun video, also great quality Mr Sorin!
Great video, thank you. Very enlightening. I love the "boxes lying around the house" 😂
I believe Mercedes recently started putting a motion sensor in their keys so they go to sleep after an inactivity period. They could have also set the key to turn on and off with the lock and unlock buttons on the fob which are already built into it. The whole thing is a solution looking for a problem!
Sorin stepping up the game, in video production of course 😂 really cool video
Fun stuff. Good job sorin. Very creative.
Great short Movie and a very educational video. Thanks, Sorin.
Very good video, well done!
Sorin, lock the car then hold the fob lock button and press the unlock button twice. This will stop the fob from continuously sending a signal and next time when you walk up to the car it will not open. You will need to use the fob unlock button to open it. You would need to do it each time you park as it resets itself when you open the car. It works for me on my 2017 Rav 4 hybrid. Keep up the good work! Gerry in California
Yup, I keep both keys in faraway pouches in the house but I always disable the fob.
Nice new format Sorin! FWIW, most car vendors these days put a motion detector in the key so it switches off after a few minutes.
That's a sensible solution.
Very enlightening & nicely done! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
This is fantastic!! I am a locksmith and this would be so awesome to be able to open a car when the customer locks their keys in . This would be so useful in my business!! Thank you for describing this toy.
look into hackrf 1 portable, does rolling codes, fobs
Your short movie was better then most movies made by the big film studios. Well done! Plus great electronics content.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reminded me of movie Matrix
Very good video you talked about car manufactures using power switch on the remote that was just my idea when I started watching the video 👍
Excellent show mate, everything is going keyless, can you please put up the schematics for the device please?
I need a new car!
Haha great intro Sorin. Nice video. Thank you!
thank you for telling us such valuable things💯
Really you are awesome and have a great experience with your amplified knowledge skills analyze this kind of great video tq for making sir
Putting an accelerometer in the key is actually a good idea.
Also, great short film xP
loved the movie!And very helpful content!
I love it! Excellent job on the intro movie!
So lovely and entertaining to watch ❤❤❤
Handy tip.
Line a box with empty (washed) crisp packets, you can then store your keys in this box and it will block the signals (yes, you’ll need a lid for it, also lined with crisp packets).
I use fine metal mesh to make the faraday cage.
I assume baking foil (tin foil) would do the same.
Oh my god I love this so much, Sorin is such a badass like holy smokes...
Great skit at the beginning of the video. I really like the new idea to your video style.
I am very interested in what you have said at the end. Can you do a video for tear down of a wireless key?
For that spectrum analyser, is the signal just a pulse of a certain frequency or it is a protocol?
Very clever.
Pickup the key signal from home and amplify it over to the card LOL
Genius !
Am gonna put my key into a metal case now.
Bravo Sorin😁😁
Start of a new career. Godfather reigns again. What a star!
very nice video prof
Love the Video Great Job I needed this in the morning. LOL
great video Sorin :)
"You Are Tearing Me Apart, Lisa!" level of acting. 🤣👍
Interesting topic. It appears that the remote is of the rolling frequency type. Do you have a link or source for the spectrum analyzer module for the computer? My service monitor has died and I am in need of a cheap spectrum analyzer.
Wow Sorin this was great :)
Hello is there some video o website where we can see how you made this please ? Great video I am learning myself
fun intro movie Sorin..yeah wow looked too easy with a little know how.
Nice video. Thanks
Thankyou Good Info!
thanks a lot for sharing ....lease put a link for spectum analyser box
Great video,i loved the acting part,u n ua wife and the guy with the signal booster was just awesome🤣🤣🤣
Sorin you Rule ! Bravisimo
Hi Sorin I have a ham radio question I'm also in the UK what ground wire should I use that I can get very easy to connect my radio to the ground rod outside to help reduce RF ? Thanks
Great job
You can always record the signal from the FOB and play it back to the vehicle, without the need be near the fob to amplify its signal. There is always a way. This is why i’m a big fan of installing hidden kills switches on vehicles. It can be even simpler, just remove certain fuses when you leave your vehicle on a “sketchy” area. Inconvenient, ya. But effective.
Can you elaborate a little bit more please about your thoughts I’ve not heard of a replay attack on kes
The playback thingy doesn't work with rolling code. I do agree with the kill switch method, I would suggest removing relays instead of fuses. Gps trackers can be effective too.
My bad rolling code can be copied and playback but it requires technique. You're right it ain't safe out here all you can do is chew your fingernails
agree...i'm a locksmith @@xivx4679
YOU ARE THE BEST MAN
Thanks
Now i know how to steel de car next door 🤣
What a great beginning from the movie 🎥 you will win a Oscar
Who's that beautiful Lady with that ol...sorry! It's Sorin ! Just joking! Once again you proved to be multi talented and thanks for that, it's our delight browsing YT. But you got me thinking, I have a Prius3 and did copies of keys (for my family) successfully ..I was thinking more to a digital approach..like receiving the numbers and reproduce them..but your way of analog relay is amazing! You should apply for a patent! Also warn your car insurance about this flow to have those specified terms. Very nice done!
Hello! Can it control the flameout when the vehicle is stationary?
love the film making. But to capture the signal you have to press the remote but the signal is a rolling code so only good one time .I think the system is very secure
What? Nothing has to be pressed. The fob is transmitting all the time. That’s the problem.
@@ppal64Transmitting what exactly all time? Because if you don't press the unlock button it doesn't unlock in normal use. So why it does unlock using this relay attack method?
@@gastonpereda4481 Here is the talk about keyless system, not about fob where you need to press for it to transmit.
Keyless emits always (you can have the car fob in your pocket and just wave your hand behind the door handle and the car will unlock, since it senses the key is near)
Sorin looked just like a criminal on the streets lol good video
Haha
A criminal can look like anyone. It's lil kids who have taken lives and old innocent looking grandma's who have too
Mafia Boss.
amazing ! :) love to see Sorin like movie star :D GG ! :)
Nice Video Dear Sorin! (😎)
A short film, I like it.
You can really do good in a crime genre kind of movie, more like a narrator like the ones of Martin Scorsese
😊😃
Excellent video :)
Thank you for making me aware. I 've never owned a keyless car.
Thank you.
i think aluminium foil should work just fine for car key like make any shape or box with foil OR the best way would be installing a power switch on my fey fob.. that's a good idea. and also keyfob battery will last for life...
What were the devices u used ? I didnt see in the video , mentioned things u found laying around.
I wrap my key fob and the spare fob in Aluminium foil it works the same as the pouch.
I love the videos.
You are the best 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋👋
Sorin, am a big fan.
Everyone else, There is something wrong with this video, Sorin is not doing? Who catch it?😅
how large of a factor is antenna design with this attack?
Muito bom !
There’s a nice tft spectrum analyzer that would be quicker to find the signal rather than walking around lol.
Drive vw b5 no problem 😊. Soring great looking 👌 Man in black
You can put your key in a tin box, the cage of faraday, lol
Brilliant!
that's extacty how the new BMW keys work . they have a some sort of preximty sensor which deactivate the wireless signal few secounds after the key is left untouched.
Is the device, where you but the 433 Antenna on, a y-splitter?
Great video.Can they steal the car itself, they have imobilazer and it cant be hachked i believe?
Nice one
Very nice
question. i have a 4 channel 433mhz remote that i am using to control led lights 300 feet away. but i am loosing signal when cars or people walk between me and the remote relay. how can i boost the signal to go farther?
Cool Sorin
You 've talked about everything EXCEPT how does it work? What is the setup? Why is the key always emitting signal? Low frequency part, high frequency part?
I vote Sorin as the new James Bond lmfao.
During winter and dry air conditions becomes even more easier to get signal. Why i know this? My old car stupid low range remote works only on winter times so well i can lock and unlock car from inside instead range of 5 meters from the car usual on summer times. But there could be other details affecting this like during winter building being worse.
Spikes at 8:54 and 8:56 are not signal through the Faraday pouch?
How can I put together the repeater? I get that you would have hesitation for putting out that knowledge out there, but there really needs to be a way for us with keyless entry to perform penetration testing.
More short movies like this please.
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