14:14 I think the Bellerire part at the beginning may be mistranslated (not 100% sure though), in the version I read what he says is "Isn't this an amazing story, father? There is a huge space that you enter through the bracelet, and the people who live there..." so basically, he doesn't contradicts himself being from there, he doesn't say he went there with the bracelet.
I finally understood your comment about Zahard "clones" being actual clones, and it makes sense to me now. And it gave me an idea. The Garbage Dump is a part of the Tower, and Zahard is striving to be the King of entire tower, not just the parts that are visible to usual regulars. He wants all, and I mean ALL of it. I mean, he literally had his CLONE as a de facto King in the Data World, presumably before the Garbage Dump was put into place and data Zahard was given the fitbit to look after. Now, with another separate part of the Tower that should remain sealed an unacessible to him, or anyone inside or outside, would it be weird for Zahard to put a part of himself, or a literal clone there to rule over all the garbage he put in? Maybe he knew that sealing literal history of the warriors there would have some consequences, and it would spawn not exactly clones, but "power-alikes" of the warriors. And Zahard was just on top of that, making sure there would be a leader of the group in place, a King for them, of course, himself. Gradually, the Zahard in there would degrade, just like data Zahard did. Maybe that's the reason why there are more than one Zahard look alikes (talking about Bosses [Daejang] now), one put in there by Zahard, another one spawned from the history Gustang put there. And maybe a couple more from who knows where. Either way, those Garbage Dump Leaders do resemble FHs. Obviously, the one with the lightning is meant to be Eduan (it's hilarious she is a woman though), and maybe that would mean the woman that came to help her, Jade, might be the replacement of Eduan's defender - yeah, she might be Bloodmadder's replacement! Ratna looks like Yurin, like you mentioned, aand, the spacesuit character, drumrolls please - Traumerei. Obviously, they have a mask, just like Traumerei, although theirs cover their whole face, they "killed" Doom, and are now interacting with LPB main sons. And the resemblance is not even subtle with those characters, you can pretty easily put them to the family they are meant to be replacement FH of. And now I wonder, what is the likelihood of people with similar powers and looks to the FHs being born on their own? I think that would be incredibly unlikely. So there must be a culprit somewhere. If it is the history itself, spawning a variant of the warriors before they sealed their memories in the Dump, or Workshop doing some crazy stuff, or even Zahard himself, planning to replace his comrades with clones that his own clone prepared to assure absolute and complete control with no possibility of Gustang rebellion situation ever happening again, securing himself as the King of the entire Tower. Zahard is omniscient in a sense, he can see future, to what extend, we don't know, he might not be able to see irregulars, but he might've predicted something like Gustang rebellion could happen, and made this plan. He seemed very happy to see Gustang change his mind and OK his Garbage Dump project. Either way, this is getting spicy, and it probably will continue getting spicy - I am very curious about those replacement FHs from the Dump now. And I really like the idea of them actually being spawned by the past, being a literal embodiment of FHs before they sealed their memories and forgot that part of history. They would be facing their shadows from the past, literally. And that would be so poetic in a sense, you can't hide away from your sins. And now, their own "past selves" try to pull them down. And Urek arriving is just a blast. We had a bloodbath commence, and now, everything is flipped on its head. I am with you on this one, Revolution should just pack up and leave. But I have a hunch that they will not leave before someone dies. And that someone would obviously, in my opinion, be Kirin. There is no way Revolution would give him a FH position. Not in a million years. They just made him think that. He is just a pawn, helping them with the impartial destruction of both sides. They are not siding with either, they want both sides gone. And Kirin's hatred towards Traumerei blinded him too much for him to realize it. They surely want him gone as well, he is a good pawn, but once LPB is gone, he is just a nuisance to get rid of. Also, I think one possibility why FUG is not there yet might be that they knew a way to get to the Sprout directly (Khel Hellam hax maybe?). After all, Luslec doesn't care about armies or Branch Leaders, he wants to see FH die. They might be observing the battle inside the Sprout, maybe waiting for the battle to progress to such a stage where Luslec can just scoop in and deliver coup de grâce. (Yes, I chose that wording because of his name :D I mean it fits so well.) Thanks for making the video even if you don't feel fully well, it is really appreciated, but make sure to rest well, I wish you speedy recovery!
Alt thought on the non-writing Po Bidaus, Gustang helped design the Zahard Princess process. Maybe he employed a similar method of adoption, but with no restrictions on them reproducing.
That actually makes quite a bit of sense, it would explain Matte, it would also explain how Proust looks, he looks much more like LPB than PB (although, he should be a Head Librarian, thus writing, but I am not sure about that after this chapter, but again, Tiara also doubted Gustang's goals), Hugo looks like Eurasia family with her pink hair, but that makes sense with Blossom (also fashion, so who knows), Lyborick is also dual family, but looks and has mostly Khun powers, so the PB relation seems interesting. Now that I think of it, didn't we only see PB double family characters? Who am I missing? I think that Gustang and Blossom had more children together, Enne is just firstborn, so that's why she was so important to them, and I mean, she was almost 500 when sealed, I doubt they went celibate after first child as FHs. And those children just procreated as well. Enne couldn't, as she was a princess. (or maybe she did, wouldn't be the first after all)
@@zennonapieronn3734 My issue with that is that Tiara claims that "he hasn't fathered any children himself since Anne Jahad..." when she is interrogating Bell on his background. The unofficial translation I read seems to be similar, that Gustang has not had natural children since Enne's birth not her sealing.
@@Rayzaleth That's a fair point, I never actually read into her exact wording, I just assumed he didn't father any children after Enne's INCIDENT, but it can very well be her birth, not the incident. I still think we could interpret it both ways, but it makes more sense to be her birth in the way she worded it as you said. But, on the other hand, that would probably imply that he has fathered children before, so Enne is not actually their firstborn, or she is, but it's his first child with Blossom, and he had children with other women before. She is obviously very important to them, so she had to be special in some way. (maybe it's hard to birth children from mix of blood of two irregulars, so they were unsucessful together for a while) So while half of my comment loses meaning, the overall point still stands I think. That would also mean they actually DID go celibate after Enne, or at least Gustang did, which is honestly kinda hilarious. Aloof Wave indeed, lol. (or not if they only had trouble actually making children)
And just to add to this, after some thinking, Enne actually surpassed both her parents in ranking, while only being around 500 years old. It took Yuri 300 to just become a ranker. She was obviously a complete beast, and I attribute this mostly to her parentage, so if they had more children together, I would assume they would be high in the ranking and well known as well. Enne did get a boost in form of Zahard's blood, making her basically a 3-way irregular blood mix, which is in itself just crazy, but even if she had siblings without Zahard's blood, just having blood of two irregulars would probably make them incredibly strong, far above just pure FH children. So I take back my comment about them probably having more children together, because I think we would know about them. But one never knows with SIU. And I can see Zahard erasing her older siblings from history, just in case, so they don't rebel like she did.
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14:14 I think the Bellerire part at the beginning may be mistranslated (not 100% sure though), in the version I read what he says is "Isn't this an amazing story, father? There is a huge space that you enter through the bracelet, and the people who live there..." so basically, he doesn't contradicts himself being from there, he doesn't say he went there with the bracelet.
I'm sorry for all of the sniffling, that was annoying, lol.
I finally understood your comment about Zahard "clones" being actual clones, and it makes sense to me now. And it gave me an idea. The Garbage Dump is a part of the Tower, and Zahard is striving to be the King of entire tower, not just the parts that are visible to usual regulars. He wants all, and I mean ALL of it. I mean, he literally had his CLONE as a de facto King in the Data World, presumably before the Garbage Dump was put into place and data Zahard was given the fitbit to look after. Now, with another separate part of the Tower that should remain sealed an unacessible to him, or anyone inside or outside, would it be weird for Zahard to put a part of himself, or a literal clone there to rule over all the garbage he put in? Maybe he knew that sealing literal history of the warriors there would have some consequences, and it would spawn not exactly clones, but "power-alikes" of the warriors. And Zahard was just on top of that, making sure there would be a leader of the group in place, a King for them, of course, himself. Gradually, the Zahard in there would degrade, just like data Zahard did. Maybe that's the reason why there are more than one Zahard look alikes (talking about Bosses [Daejang] now), one put in there by Zahard, another one spawned from the history Gustang put there. And maybe a couple more from who knows where.
Either way, those Garbage Dump Leaders do resemble FHs. Obviously, the one with the lightning is meant to be Eduan (it's hilarious she is a woman though), and maybe that would mean the woman that came to help her, Jade, might be the replacement of Eduan's defender - yeah, she might be Bloodmadder's replacement! Ratna looks like Yurin, like you mentioned, aand, the spacesuit character, drumrolls please - Traumerei. Obviously, they have a mask, just like Traumerei, although theirs cover their whole face, they "killed" Doom, and are now interacting with LPB main sons. And the resemblance is not even subtle with those characters, you can pretty easily put them to the family they are meant to be replacement FH of. And now I wonder, what is the likelihood of people with similar powers and looks to the FHs being born on their own? I think that would be incredibly unlikely. So there must be a culprit somewhere. If it is the history itself, spawning a variant of the warriors before they sealed their memories in the Dump, or Workshop doing some crazy stuff, or even Zahard himself, planning to replace his comrades with clones that his own clone prepared to assure absolute and complete control with no possibility of Gustang rebellion situation ever happening again, securing himself as the King of the entire Tower. Zahard is omniscient in a sense, he can see future, to what extend, we don't know, he might not be able to see irregulars, but he might've predicted something like Gustang rebellion could happen, and made this plan. He seemed very happy to see Gustang change his mind and OK his Garbage Dump project. Either way, this is getting spicy, and it probably will continue getting spicy - I am very curious about those replacement FHs from the Dump now. And I really like the idea of them actually being spawned by the past, being a literal embodiment of FHs before they sealed their memories and forgot that part of history. They would be facing their shadows from the past, literally. And that would be so poetic in a sense, you can't hide away from your sins. And now, their own "past selves" try to pull them down.
And Urek arriving is just a blast. We had a bloodbath commence, and now, everything is flipped on its head. I am with you on this one, Revolution should just pack up and leave. But I have a hunch that they will not leave before someone dies. And that someone would obviously, in my opinion, be Kirin. There is no way Revolution would give him a FH position. Not in a million years. They just made him think that. He is just a pawn, helping them with the impartial destruction of both sides. They are not siding with either, they want both sides gone. And Kirin's hatred towards Traumerei blinded him too much for him to realize it. They surely want him gone as well, he is a good pawn, but once LPB is gone, he is just a nuisance to get rid of.
Also, I think one possibility why FUG is not there yet might be that they knew a way to get to the Sprout directly (Khel Hellam hax maybe?). After all, Luslec doesn't care about armies or Branch Leaders, he wants to see FH die. They might be observing the battle inside the Sprout, maybe waiting for the battle to progress to such a stage where Luslec can just scoop in and deliver coup de grâce. (Yes, I chose that wording because of his name :D I mean it fits so well.)
Thanks for making the video even if you don't feel fully well, it is really appreciated, but make sure to rest well, I wish you speedy recovery!
Alt thought on the non-writing Po Bidaus, Gustang helped design the Zahard Princess process. Maybe he employed a similar method of adoption, but with no restrictions on them reproducing.
That actually makes quite a bit of sense, it would explain Matte, it would also explain how Proust looks, he looks much more like LPB than PB (although, he should be a Head Librarian, thus writing, but I am not sure about that after this chapter, but again, Tiara also doubted Gustang's goals), Hugo looks like Eurasia family with her pink hair, but that makes sense with Blossom (also fashion, so who knows), Lyborick is also dual family, but looks and has mostly Khun powers, so the PB relation seems interesting. Now that I think of it, didn't we only see PB double family characters? Who am I missing?
I think that Gustang and Blossom had more children together, Enne is just firstborn, so that's why she was so important to them, and I mean, she was almost 500 when sealed, I doubt they went celibate after first child as FHs. And those children just procreated as well. Enne couldn't, as she was a princess. (or maybe she did, wouldn't be the first after all)
@@zennonapieronn3734 My issue with that is that Tiara claims that "he hasn't fathered any children himself since Anne Jahad..." when she is interrogating Bell on his background. The unofficial translation I read seems to be similar, that Gustang has not had natural children since Enne's birth not her sealing.
@@Rayzaleth That's a fair point, I never actually read into her exact wording, I just assumed he didn't father any children after Enne's INCIDENT, but it can very well be her birth, not the incident. I still think we could interpret it both ways, but it makes more sense to be her birth in the way she worded it as you said.
But, on the other hand, that would probably imply that he has fathered children before, so Enne is not actually their firstborn, or she is, but it's his first child with Blossom, and he had children with other women before. She is obviously very important to them, so she had to be special in some way. (maybe it's hard to birth children from mix of blood of two irregulars, so they were unsucessful together for a while) So while half of my comment loses meaning, the overall point still stands I think. That would also mean they actually DID go celibate after Enne, or at least Gustang did, which is honestly kinda hilarious. Aloof Wave indeed, lol. (or not if they only had trouble actually making children)
And just to add to this, after some thinking, Enne actually surpassed both her parents in ranking, while only being around 500 years old. It took Yuri 300 to just become a ranker. She was obviously a complete beast, and I attribute this mostly to her parentage, so if they had more children together, I would assume they would be high in the ranking and well known as well. Enne did get a boost in form of Zahard's blood, making her basically a 3-way irregular blood mix, which is in itself just crazy, but even if she had siblings without Zahard's blood, just having blood of two irregulars would probably make them incredibly strong, far above just pure FH children. So I take back my comment about them probably having more children together, because I think we would know about them. But one never knows with SIU. And I can see Zahard erasing her older siblings from history, just in case, so they don't rebel like she did.
@@zennonapieronn3734 Definitely a lot of questions on Family Heads and their offspring remaining, I like your thoughts.
17:48 word Zahard means king or "captain/boss" to them
Please do long intros. Even if it is unedited, I would love to listen to what you have to say.