@@FirstLast-tx3yj I go through the individual weights at the end of episode 4. The motor is 54kg, the battery is about 127kg, the charger is 5kg, and the controller and cooling system is 9kg.
Gerat project and nice insights on Energicas engineering choices. But since I assume that you're well aware of the hazards of working on components with a system voltage close to 400V DC, I'd love to see the use of proper PPE (that, even though not visible, you certainly used) in the future. Because unfortunately there are enough people out there that think viewing some videos enables them to work safely on such vehicles. Best Electric regards, Max Jäger PS: For future work on such systems, and in the interest in the longevity of the components and your life, always use a Voltmeter to check that there is no Voltage (U < 10V) present between poles and each pole to ground/chassis. Because these systems can still hold a deadly charge for quite some time after being completely turned off.
Great video. I loved the Zelda chest open noise. And the grounding cable that wasn’t hooked to anything was probably connected from one frame piece to the other frame piece. As the frame is usually used for ground you don’t want one of you frame pieces not working as a ground.
Fascinating to watch you take it apart. Hope you also share how you "put it back together on the floor..." This is all very electric and "a lot of fun."
Nice video! Definitely reminds me of my adventures digging into the Gen3 Zeros for the first time and reverse engineering everything to figure out it’s purpose. One thing that I think will help you feel safer about the “ZAP” factor is using a multimeter to confirm whether circuits are live. For example, I’m sure the battery terminals were dead when you disconnected them from the motor controller (I would imagine that the battery pack has an internal contactor), but popping a meter on those terminals to confirm 0VDC probably would have made you more comfortable before moving them around. Looking forward to watching the rest of this project unfold! Looks like fun!
Thanks Scott! Yep I should have shown more safety stuff in this video 😂 checking those terminals in the controller before pulling the battery cables out is a key part of the removal process in the manual. In the next video I'll try and put it all back together and make sure it still works. Hopefully I made enough labels!
17:00 connect to you car's break pedal. Hit the break to turn it on. It's likely a ground connection trigger. Cool video. You're more adventurous than me.
I got a good solution for the kickstand...Turn it into the E Brake. Flip it so when the E brake is down it thinks the kickstand is up. It may be a challenge but I think using the existing car signal and lights would be better. Taking apart stuff is fun especially when making something new.
Your lack of power tools works to you’re advantage as time for your memory too learn and comprehend the intricate design of the bike as a unit. Im very proud of you as always and this five years will go by like maybe the amount of time it took too fly from home to home away from home. 👍🏻
Thanks!! That means a lot 😁 I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm doing something, and all that matters is that I learn as I go. It's been really fun so far!
Just a hint to make your life easier. Get your self some T-Handle hex set keys, to use in place of Allen Keys all the time. Really speeds up tightening, and un-tightening hex bolts, and saves your hands! Cheap as from a hardware store, as low as $20 a set. Great videos btw. Really enjoying your work.
Yes the bikes are being built to order so getting the Experia from Italy to NZ via Aus before early Feb will involve a bit of patience. I was however inspired by your NewZeroland videos and had earlier been in touch with an Energica owner in Whangarei who was looking to sell his bike.
Oh nice! I've known Jef for a few years. His Eva is sweet but the Experia is a whole new ballgame. Every aspect of it has been improved and I think you'll love it.
Yea all the weight saving is going to be fun. I know how fun it can be. I have had to weigh aircraft before and knowing the weight of all the parts and where they go is fascinating.
I never realised that the Speedo Cat was your actual cat. I shouldn't say that's the best bit of the video. But cat. PS, that grounding wire. There's the professionalism of Energica on show. Stark contrast to another motorcycle company we could mention that lets all sorts of stray voltages appear in any old place that blows up MBB and chargers, and is the reason why their Chademo charger never worked. PPS my bet is that when this was a track bike the 3kW charger was taken off. When it crashed, they just stuck it back in any old how.
When you were unscrewing the big orange cables between the motor and the controller, I panicked in your place. Just instinctively. I mean, rationally I know there is no tension in them, but I'm somehow already programmed to NEVER TOUCH THE ORANGE CABLES without gloves and other precautions.
Would be cool to get the weight and dimensions of the main components such as the battery, motor, controller and charger individually for others who may look at similar conversions from these bikes. Really looking forward to the rest of the project - thank you for sharing!
Nice disassembly! Maybe you can install a hidden sidestand safety switch somewhere if you wanted. Are you keeping the frame and suspension or selling it?
Okay, if your label items, next video label the car as a awesome beat. Yeah. Oh, and always a good rule to be careful with your hose, never want it pinched or nicked. More Zelda sounds, awesome.
Awsome project Sam! Are you sure the battery SOC and health is ok to be stored until your energycar is ready? ( To avoid it to die while waiting..) I guess teh BMS will fall into sleep mode... It seem the bike was like R&D energica bike or modified energica.... wiring harness as well as frame color!
Oh yeah haha, I can't comment on what this bike was used for or where it came from, but it was modified and crashed at some point 😂 I plan on plugging everything back together in my garage to make sure my labeling worked and also to maintain the battery until it's time to put it in the car. Hopefully it works!
Great video as always Sam! Interesting to see the motor controller sourced from Oregon, USA (Rinehart Motion Systems). I wonder if this is some engineering remnants of Brammo? 🤔
Thats is cool, that break switch at the end of the video, possible that is to tell the motor controller that that break is pressed? And not try to accelerate with breaks on? Maybe.
I ordered it through the Australian Electric Motor Company. I'll contact Kiwibiker and Proteca. ETA hopefully in time for a trip down to the Burt in Feb.
Nice going! BTW that cable/switch on the primary brake cylinder primarily turns your brake light on - in many vehicles (automatic geared ICEs and EVs) it also serves the purpose of a two button ignition ;-)
Oh right HAHA! I was thinking it might also trigger regen, but only 2 wires seems unlikely. That makes it easy then! Just plug these into the car's brake pedal. Woo!!
Yeah, the regen signal comes from the "throttle" position. Even electric bicycles have switches on the brake levers in order to cut the motor power when you brake, even though most of them don't have brake lights.
@@awo1fman In better EVs there are also pressure sensors in the brake's hydraulic line to provide an analog signal toward the regen (regen intensity proportional to hydraulic pressure) - and to increase the challenge/complexity, the motor control is coupled with the ABS and anti-slip. You can test the later by going into full regen on e.g. wet leaves or ice - I tested that with my C-Evo, works awesome ;-)
Brilliant video again. I'm similar to you in that I like pulling things apart to see how they work, it's the scientist part of me and the engineering part of me that want to see how it is all routed within the structure, in this case, the trellis frame. This looks like a great endeavour, and I look forward to following you along the way, exciting stuff. One question: you've got to keep the battery charged above a certain point (not rock bottom, or top) to retain its health right? How do you do that??
Yeah man! I'm having so much fun pulling it all apart and arranging things. The labels keep me sane. I'm planning on plugging it all back in to get it running in my garage (outside of the frame) so I can add things to the wiring harness and make sure it works before trying it in the car.
You want so much an engine crane......can do so many amazing jobs and folds up for easy storage. Does the battery has internal contactors for de-energizing the terminals? Did you check that with your multimeter??
Yep and yep! When you unplug the VCU you can test the terminals on the controller to make sure there's no voltage running through. I'll plug it all back in soon to make sure it still works outside of the frame. And you're right, I definitely need a crane.
At the rate you are going with the teardown you'll be keeping up with Munro Live. We expect a full report on all the systems and construction to be available soon.😜
Glad to see your hands getting bloody doing this kind of work. Makes me feel better about doing the same. That was awesome to watch, btw. I’m expecting you are going to run into issues with the lengths of those wiring harnesses if you are putting the battery and controller so far from the dash of the Beat. Any thoughts how you are going to manage that? Extensions? New handmade wiring harness? Btw, I think it’s only right to mount that kickstand under the drivers door. Bonus points if you can hydraulically lower the driver side of the car when you put the kickstand down.
@@NewZeroland I wonder if there are length considerations, such as voltage drop. The provided cables are short due to the motorcycle format but it might also be helping to maintain the voltage. Worth checking, I think.
Hmm I wonder if the central frame holding the battery & motor could be transplanted into the car?! Would make the scary large cable spaghetti guarantee to fit.
Hey, would you happen to know best ones to get electricity for accessories out of? You seem like you know the bike inside and out now 😂 and I figured the bikes arent all too dissimilar.
By "fell off a truck" I imagine it actually falling off a truck delivering bikes and that's what really wrecked it. The "complex spaghetti" wiring harness is what scares me most in every automotive youtuber's journey through a rebuild because it'd be so easy to not know what one of those tiny little tendrils do. Most times it just looks to me like they extracted the nervous system from a living being.
Dude it totally looks like little nerves 😂 Hopefully I can keep it as simple as it is now and not rip into it too much. All I really want to do is extend a few wires, add a few more, and velcro it all to the car 😂
What fun! I thought the batteries on these were cooled too. Did you have to have the battery in a specific SoC to disconnect it? Any chance this was a MotoE bike?
Nope, they have air channels down the middle to passively cool them as you ride. Once you disconnect the VCU and controller terminals you can check with a multimeter to make sure there's no power running through it, but I unplugged everything at like 90% so hopefully that was ok 😂 And nope, not a previous MotoE bike.
Impressive amount of cable... I'm pretty sure most of those cables can be simplified, that's way too complicated. I would like to see the new models wiring.
@@NewZeroland This would be too much trouble to do but just imagine the controller and charger fins sticking up through the hood like a 70's muscle car blower. Man on a JDM K car no less. Polarizing :)
Ok feel bad if you are cutting all the wires and not learning anything. The pain in the but and effort you put in is a tribute to the people who put it together.
Yeah I'll try and keep this harness as in tact as possible. A lot of much smarter people than me put it together and I wouldn't know where to start pulling it apart 😂
Wire harnesses are crazy. If you have to rebuild the harness to get the kinks out F4 tape works great for getting the wires to suck together and protect them. You would just need to put some regular tape to keep the wires in place first.
Wanting to do a conversion with a different small car. Is there a way to contact you about how I can organise a "donor bike" for myself. As a piece of feedback, perhaps you could use the original back section of the cluster and 3D print a new front to help house the Energica cluster in the new "cluster housing".
Nahh I'll just sell the original cluster as a whole unit. It's pretty rare so I wouldn't want to mess with it, and the Energica dash is smaller and lighter. Unfortunately they've sold all the wrecked donor bikes like this one, but sometimes you can find others on salvage sites like copart. It's hard to know the extent of the damage until you get it, but in general these bikes are really solid and well-built. From what I've heard, Energica is going to start selling new components in the near future, so that might be a better option for you. Good luck!
Good move on the loom , there is a whole lot of CANBus stuff in there and if you chop ...errrrr it no work'a , you need a new'a sensor'a and de special tool'a to fix'a .
I don't know how Energicas work, but on the Zero the brake lever wire adds more Regen too. Do Energicas add regen when you squeeze the brake? Or is it configurable?
I would not place the charge port that low on the beat, too close to water and road grime, need to be higher, maybe cut a hole higher up in the boot/trunk?
It'll be shielded by a bunch of stuff so I'm not too worried.. but this makes me wonder about the giant sprocket I'll be using. Hopefully that isn't too low 😳
Sam, I have arranged to purchase an Energica Experia but can't find someone to insure it with. Swann say they won't insure elecrtic motorcycles. Who did you insure your Energica's with?
Hey nice!! It'll be awesome to see an Experia over here. Where did you order it from? I used to be with NAC but Kiwibiker had a cheaper excess. I've heard good things about Protecta, too.
Could be.. I'm sure this is an off the shelf port that all CCS vehicles use, so maybe some of those cars have cooled wiring? I dunno.. that seems extreme but maybe.
@@NewZeroland The cables are commonly water (some kinda fluid) cooled so it wouldn't be crazy for a vehicle to cool the port as well; connections do tend to be where most heat is created.
@@dogabelgesellerikusagi3391 this bike weighed 280kg and the components I'm keeping are about 200kg. The car is 754kg so hopefully I can lose some weight from it 😂
Sam, As long as you don't zap yourself, we're glad to be along for the ride.....
Thank you! I shall try 😂
@@NewZerolandhave you weighed the motor, the controller or the battery??
@@FirstLast-tx3yj yep, all the components are about 200kg
@@NewZeroland thats great could you please tell me the individual weight of each
Or at least the motor alone?
@@FirstLast-tx3yj I go through the individual weights at the end of episode 4. The motor is 54kg, the battery is about 127kg, the charger is 5kg, and the controller and cooling system is 9kg.
Gerat project and nice insights on Energicas engineering choices.
But since I assume that you're well aware of the hazards of working on components with a system voltage close to 400V DC, I'd love to see the use of proper PPE (that, even though not visible, you certainly used) in the future. Because unfortunately there are enough people out there that think viewing some videos enables them to work safely on such vehicles.
Best Electric regards,
Max Jäger
PS: For future work on such systems, and in the interest in the longevity of the components and your life, always use a Voltmeter to check that there is no Voltage (U < 10V) present between poles and each pole to ground/chassis. Because these systems can still hold a deadly charge for quite some time after being completely turned off.
Thanks! Great points. I should have shown the volt meter just to be sure. Safety first, of course!
Great video. I loved the Zelda chest open noise. And the grounding cable that wasn’t hooked to anything was probably connected from one frame piece to the other frame piece. As the frame is usually used for ground you don’t want one of you frame pieces not working as a ground.
Ooooo could be! I assumed it was connected to something that was removed before the bike came to me, but who knows? The mystery continues!
Awesome video! The cat intermission was much needed🙂
Haha thank you!
Fascinating to watch you take it apart. Hope you also share how you "put it back together on the floor..." This is all very electric and "a lot of fun."
That's next, for sure. I need to make sure it all works outside of the frame before I start modifying it all 😁
Great progress! Amazing what you can get done with basic tools and imagination
Cheers bro! At this rate the project will be finished in no time 😂
Got to follow this project
Cheers! It's about to get exciting.
I love the names of all off wires
Haha thank you!
Nice video! Definitely reminds me of my adventures digging into the Gen3 Zeros for the first time and reverse engineering everything to figure out it’s purpose.
One thing that I think will help you feel safer about the “ZAP” factor is using a multimeter to confirm whether circuits are live. For example, I’m sure the battery terminals were dead when you disconnected them from the motor controller (I would imagine that the battery pack has an internal contactor), but popping a meter on those terminals to confirm 0VDC probably would have made you more comfortable before moving them around.
Looking forward to watching the rest of this project unfold! Looks like fun!
Thanks Scott! Yep I should have shown more safety stuff in this video 😂 checking those terminals in the controller before pulling the battery cables out is a key part of the removal process in the manual. In the next video I'll try and put it all back together and make sure it still works. Hopefully I made enough labels!
Good job, happy you did not drop a battery on your foot :D
Has that happened??? 😳😱
Oh man it looks so clean and simple, especially canpeaed to my VW Subi conversion I've just redone. I can't wait to see and go in your wee monster
Yeah man!! It's crazy clean, but also heavy. Heavier than I expected. I'll talk about that in the next video 😳
17:00 connect to you car's break pedal. Hit the break to turn it on. It's likely a ground connection trigger. Cool video. You're more adventurous than me.
That's exactly it! I'll mention that in my next video. And thanks 😁 I'm in way over my head, out of my comfort zone, but it's all part of the fun.
AMP Superseal connectors!
My favourite connectors.
Those are beefy!
I got a good solution for the kickstand...Turn it into the E Brake. Flip it so when the E brake is down it thinks the kickstand is up. It may be a challenge but I think using the existing car signal and lights would be better. Taking apart stuff is fun especially when making something new.
Someone else said the same thing! That would definitely make my car unstealable. Nobody would know what's going on in there 😂
Your lack of power tools works to you’re advantage as time for your memory too learn and comprehend the intricate design of the bike as a unit. Im very proud of you as always and this five years will go by like maybe the amount of time it took too fly from home to home away from home. 👍🏻
Thanks!! That means a lot 😁 I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm doing something, and all that matters is that I learn as I go. It's been really fun so far!
New must watch yt channel 🤙
Cheers!! 😁
That "Velcro" is 3M Dual-Lock and it's awesome stuff.
Ahh nice! Thanks. That'll come in handy later. Crazy strong stuff.
I had the same thought - what would you even name some of those cables? “Pablo” - problem solved. Haha
😂 it made sense at the time
Gives you huge respect for the guys who designed the bike in the first place.
Yeah man! I love seeing how stuff is built. It's so inspiring and I learn a lot from it.
Great video! Well done :) Good luck with the next steps!
Cheers 😁 Everything is out now, but the project has barely even begun.
Seeing and hearing the Beat on the road reminds me of riding my Yamaha MT-03. Fun taking it to redline and still staying within the speed limits :)
Yeah! Going the speed limit is still exciting on underpowered stuff 😂
Just a hint to make your life easier. Get your self some T-Handle hex set keys, to use in place of Allen Keys all the time. Really speeds up tightening, and un-tightening hex bolts, and saves your hands! Cheap as from a hardware store, as low as $20 a set.
Great videos btw. Really enjoying your work.
Thanks man! Yeah I need a better set of tools. I've been slumming it for too long.
@@NewZeroland I was so glad when I got some. It was like "Where have you been all my life, and why didn't I pick you before?" :)
Yes the bikes are being built to order so getting the Experia from Italy to NZ via Aus before early Feb will involve a bit of patience. I was however inspired by your NewZeroland videos and had earlier been in touch with an Energica owner in Whangarei who was looking to sell his bike.
Oh nice! I've known Jef for a few years. His Eva is sweet but the Experia is a whole new ballgame. Every aspect of it has been improved and I think you'll love it.
Good naming scheme.
Pablo appreciates your comment
The dash display looks like it going to fit perfectly.
Right?? Even lighter weight!
Yea all the weight saving is going to be fun. I know how fun it can be. I have had to weigh aircraft before and knowing the weight of all the parts and where they go is fascinating.
Excellent video! This is thoroughly fascinating!
Thanks!! I guess this means the project has officially started 😁
Okay, FIRST things FIRST: Me. :)
Put it up for home energy storage since you're going to take 5 years 😁
Be sure to stick the CCS sideways. Cables go down on the handle already.
HAHA genius
I never realised that the Speedo Cat was your actual cat.
I shouldn't say that's the best bit of the video. But cat.
PS, that grounding wire. There's the professionalism of Energica on show. Stark contrast to another motorcycle company we could mention that lets all sorts of stray voltages appear in any old place that blows up MBB and chargers, and is the reason why their Chademo charger never worked.
PPS my bet is that when this was a track bike the 3kW charger was taken off. When it crashed, they just stuck it back in any old how.
Oof 😂😂😂 Yeah no isolation faults here! And nah, the speedo cat was diferent, but similar paint job to our cat 😁
@@NewZeroland oh, I've mis-cat-egorised your cat.
Sorry.
When you were unscrewing the big orange cables between the motor and the controller, I panicked in your place. Just instinctively. I mean, rationally I know there is no tension in them, but I'm somehow already programmed to NEVER TOUCH THE ORANGE CABLES without gloves and other precautions.
Yeah that was freaky, for sure. I need proper giant rubber gloves the next time I do this. It seemed pretty safe though.
You know you'll have to get a bigger ladder to take the Beat motor out, right? 😀
Oh man you're giving me all the best ideas 😂
Would be cool to get the weight and dimensions of the main components such as the battery, motor, controller and charger individually for others who may look at similar conversions from these bikes. Really looking forward to the rest of the project - thank you for sharing!
Next episode! I'll weigh and 3D scan everything 😁
Nice disassembly! Maybe you can install a hidden sidestand safety switch somewhere if you wanted.
Are you keeping the frame and suspension or selling it?
That would be cool! It would make the car really hard to steal 😂 And I'll probably sell the frame but keep the wheels and other spare parts.
Okay, if your label items, next video label the car as a awesome beat. Yeah. Oh, and always a good rule to be careful with your hose, never want it pinched or nicked. More Zelda sounds, awesome.
Haha glad ya liked that. Definitely more labeling and Zelda fun to come.
Deconstruction!! Who says you can’t use ratchet straps for lifting….. Pablo hahahaha
😂 Hey it worked and I didn't die, so I'll keep doin it
Awsome project Sam! Are you sure the battery SOC and health is ok to be stored until your energycar is ready? ( To avoid it to die while waiting..) I guess teh BMS will fall into sleep mode... It seem the bike was like R&D energica bike or modified energica.... wiring harness as well as frame color!
Oh yeah haha, I can't comment on what this bike was used for or where it came from, but it was modified and crashed at some point 😂 I plan on plugging everything back together in my garage to make sure my labeling worked and also to maintain the battery until it's time to put it in the car. Hopefully it works!
Great video as always Sam!
Interesting to see the motor controller sourced from Oregon, USA (Rinehart Motion Systems). I wonder if this is some engineering remnants of Brammo? 🤔
Thanks man! Nahhh.. wait, did Brammo use Rinehart controllers??
brake switch also activates the brake light.
Yep 😂 I'm an idiot
Thats is cool, that break switch at the end of the video, possible that is to tell the motor controller that that break is pressed? And not try to accelerate with breaks on? Maybe.
Yeah it could be a mixture of regen, safety switch to turn the bike on, and triggering the brake light.
I didn't have a motorcycle, I did "something", and now I have a motorcycle.
Fairytales and magic
I ordered it through the Australian Electric Motor Company. I'll contact Kiwibiker and Proteca. ETA hopefully in time for a trip down to the Burt in Feb.
That would be amazing! Good luck man. I have a feeling it will take a few months, but that's still a few months away, so here's hoping.
Nice going!
BTW that cable/switch on the primary brake cylinder primarily turns your brake light on - in many vehicles (automatic geared ICEs and EVs) it also serves the purpose of a two button ignition ;-)
Oh right HAHA! I was thinking it might also trigger regen, but only 2 wires seems unlikely. That makes it easy then! Just plug these into the car's brake pedal. Woo!!
Yeah, the regen signal comes from the "throttle" position. Even electric bicycles have switches on the brake levers in order to cut the motor power when you brake, even though most of them don't have brake lights.
@@awo1fman In better EVs there are also pressure sensors in the brake's hydraulic line to provide an analog signal toward the regen (regen intensity proportional to hydraulic pressure) - and to increase the challenge/complexity, the motor control is coupled with the ABS and anti-slip. You can test the later by going into full regen on e.g. wet leaves or ice - I tested that with my C-Evo, works awesome ;-)
Brilliant video again. I'm similar to you in that I like pulling things apart to see how they work, it's the scientist part of me and the engineering part of me that want to see how it is all routed within the structure, in this case, the trellis frame. This looks like a great endeavour, and I look forward to following you along the way, exciting stuff. One question: you've got to keep the battery charged above a certain point (not rock bottom, or top) to retain its health right? How do you do that??
Yeah man! I'm having so much fun pulling it all apart and arranging things. The labels keep me sane. I'm planning on plugging it all back in to get it running in my garage (outside of the frame) so I can add things to the wiring harness and make sure it works before trying it in the car.
The 2 other Energicas: "what have you done to our sister?!"
HAHAHAHA shield your eyes, children!
You want so much an engine crane......can do so many amazing jobs and folds up for easy storage. Does the battery has internal contactors for de-energizing the terminals? Did you check that with your multimeter??
Yep and yep! When you unplug the VCU you can test the terminals on the controller to make sure there's no voltage running through. I'll plug it all back in soon to make sure it still works outside of the frame. And you're right, I definitely need a crane.
Idea: add a cat sticker under the old fuel door. 😆
YES! THIS! 😹
At the rate you are going with the teardown you'll be keeping up with Munro Live. We expect a full report on all the systems and construction to be available soon.😜
Hahaha nahhh no way 😂 I wish I could do this full time, but it's a "weekend here and there" project that will probably take years.
Glad to see your hands getting bloody doing this kind of work. Makes me feel better about doing the same. That was awesome to watch, btw. I’m expecting you are going to run into issues with the lengths of those wiring harnesses if you are putting the battery and controller so far from the dash of the Beat. Any thoughts how you are going to manage that? Extensions? New handmade wiring harness? Btw, I think it’s only right to mount that kickstand under the drivers door. Bonus points if you can hydraulically lower the driver side of the car when you put the kickstand down.
Thanks! Bwahaha that kickstand mount would be sweet. I'll definitely have to extend a lot of these wires, especially the high voltage battery cables.
@@NewZeroland I wonder if there are length considerations, such as voltage drop. The provided cables are short due to the motorcycle format but it might also be helping to maintain the voltage. Worth checking, I think.
@@SonOfAnakin nah I doubt it. I'll only be adding a little bit, just to move the controller to the side.
Hmm I wonder if the central frame holding the battery & motor could be transplanted into the car?! Would make the scary large cable spaghetti guarantee to fit.
I was wondering about that too!! At least the part holding the motor. That would be sweet to keep and retrofit to a bigger structure.
Hey, would you happen to know best ones to get electricity for accessories out of? You seem like you know the bike inside and out now 😂 and I figured the bikes arent all too dissimilar.
You 10000% should use the handlebars as the steering wheel. Surely there’s a rotation reduction gear to make this possible.
Haha that'd be crazy man. Crazy! But it would make swapping the throttle a million times easier haha.
@@NewZeroland see, I’m already shaving 2 weeks off 5 years, you’re welcome
@@AdventuresonZero so efficient. This project will be done by Christmas!
@@NewZeroland 🤣🤣🤣so much room for extra activities by then!
By "fell off a truck" I imagine it actually falling off a truck delivering bikes and that's what really wrecked it. The "complex spaghetti" wiring harness is what scares me most in every automotive youtuber's journey through a rebuild because it'd be so easy to not know what one of those tiny little tendrils do. Most times it just looks to me like they extracted the nervous system from a living being.
Dude it totally looks like little nerves 😂 Hopefully I can keep it as simple as it is now and not rip into it too much. All I really want to do is extend a few wires, add a few more, and velcro it all to the car 😂
@@NewZeroland Velcrogenicar!
What fun! I thought the batteries on these were cooled too. Did you have to have the battery in a specific SoC to disconnect it? Any chance this was a MotoE bike?
Nope, they have air channels down the middle to passively cool them as you ride. Once you disconnect the VCU and controller terminals you can check with a multimeter to make sure there's no power running through it, but I unplugged everything at like 90% so hopefully that was ok 😂 And nope, not a previous MotoE bike.
Impressive amount of cable... I'm pretty sure most of those cables can be simplified, that's way too complicated.
I would like to see the new models wiring.
Yeah definitely. Lots of stuff I won't need in the car. I won't hack it up too much but I will have to tweak it a bit.
Quite appropriate you talk about spaghetti for this Energica, but would you call it ramen if it were a Suzuki?
Cup noodles! 😂
11:41 Struth! your adjustable wrench is not a wrench. This Adjustable Wrench is a Wrench!
We call that one "The Enforcer" 😂
Triforce music. LOL. Good job. How did that charger compare to the Diginow units? That looks very finny.
Glad ya liked it! The Energica charger is longer, but lighter weight. It'll be interesting to figure out mounting for all this stuff.
@@NewZeroland This would be too much trouble to do but just imagine the controller and charger fins sticking up through the hood like a 70's muscle car blower. Man on a JDM K car no less.
Polarizing :)
Ok feel bad if you are cutting all the wires and not learning anything. The pain in the but and effort you put in is a tribute to the people who put it together.
Yeah I'll try and keep this harness as in tact as possible. A lot of much smarter people than me put it together and I wouldn't know where to start pulling it apart 😂
Wire harnesses are crazy. If you have to rebuild the harness to get the kinks out F4 tape works great for getting the wires to suck together and protect them. You would just need to put some regular tape to keep the wires in place first.
@@stevenb7319 Great idea! There will be a lot of tape in this project 😂
Wanting to do a conversion with a different small car. Is there a way to contact you about how I can organise a "donor bike" for myself.
As a piece of feedback, perhaps you could use the original back section of the cluster and 3D print a new front to help house the Energica cluster in the new "cluster housing".
Nahh I'll just sell the original cluster as a whole unit. It's pretty rare so I wouldn't want to mess with it, and the Energica dash is smaller and lighter. Unfortunately they've sold all the wrecked donor bikes like this one, but sometimes you can find others on salvage sites like copart. It's hard to know the extent of the damage until you get it, but in general these bikes are really solid and well-built. From what I've heard, Energica is going to start selling new components in the near future, so that might be a better option for you. Good luck!
Good move on the loom , there is a whole lot of CANBus stuff in there and if you chop ...errrrr it no work'a , you need a new'a sensor'a and de special tool'a to fix'a .
That'd be bibbity boppity broken and that'sa no good'a for me'a
@@NewZeroland 🤣
I don't know how Energicas work, but on the Zero the brake lever wire adds more Regen too. Do Energicas add regen when you squeeze the brake? Or is it configurable?
Yeah I think it's all related.. start switch safety, regen trigger, and also the brake lights. We'll see if it works in the car!
Those tires look like racing rain tires. Crashed race bike?
Honestly I have no idea why they used these. Probably because they looked cool 😂 The bike only had 11 miles on it.
Oh I wish I wish you didn’t need that VCU haha mine is burned out and there’s no parts available
Your VCU is broken?? Can you order a new one from Energica or AF1 Racing?
I would not place the charge port that low on the beat, too close to water and road grime, need to be higher, maybe cut a hole higher up in the boot/trunk?
It'll be shielded by a bunch of stuff so I'm not too worried.. but this makes me wonder about the giant sprocket I'll be using. Hopefully that isn't too low 😳
Sam,
I have arranged to purchase an Energica Experia but can't find someone to insure it with. Swann say they won't insure elecrtic motorcycles. Who did you insure your Energica's with?
Hey nice!! It'll be awesome to see an Experia over here. Where did you order it from? I used to be with NAC but Kiwibiker had a cheaper excess. I've heard good things about Protecta, too.
Complex Spaghetti
#simplifythespaghetti
The first clue to the mystery bike is... who's Tommy Huo?
Tommy Hero 😉 That's all I can say
Now you just need to find someone that wants to convert an Energica to a gas bike.
Now THAT is a job for Rich Rebuilds
connect kickstand to parkingbake.
That is a GREAT idea 😲
Was that a coolant port on the back of the DC charging port?
Could be.. I'm sure this is an off the shelf port that all CCS vehicles use, so maybe some of those cars have cooled wiring? I dunno.. that seems extreme but maybe.
more likely a drain.
@@NewZeroland The cables are commonly water (some kinda fluid) cooled so it wouldn't be crazy for a vehicle to cool the port as well; connections do tend to be where most heat is created.
LoL. Pablo.
Pablo forever
I came here for the powertools...
😂🔧🔨🔋
I mean, one energica is nice, but why not dual motor the car, get some AWD action in a tiny car :) so what if that'd be an engineering nightmare
Hahaha well I'm already struggling with weight, but maybe someday 😂
From personal experience, the pen will fade on that tape. Get a label maker.
Great point! I need to step up my labeling game. Thanks man.
Or a big fat sharpie.
The blue tape is masking tape? It's glue is designed to let go after a few days.......
Engine power? How much kW?
107kW and 200Nm of torque
@@NewZeroland wow amazing. how many kg does the bike weigh? I am currently upgrading with 3x2 dual motors. 300 nm. 😉
@@dogabelgesellerikusagi3391 this bike weighed 280kg and the components I'm keeping are about 200kg. The car is 754kg so hopefully I can lose some weight from it 😂
Ok second
Let's be honest, you were the fastest without cheating 😂
Yes! He commented 13 hours ago? I’m guessing it wasn’t a time zone thing. 🤔
@@stevenb7319 It's a time/space thing, pinaero's already commented on the next 3 videos that haven't even been filmed yet.
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I'm looking forward to it but it will mean selling my MV Agusta Turismo Veloce Lusso. Do you know anyone who may be interested?
Nope, sorry.. but the Experia will be the perfect replacement!
Always be safe and wear your safety sandals 🩴 😉 . I will not mention the name of the guilty party.
Rubber insulated crocs for ultimate grounding potential!!
@@NewZeroland awesome! Haha 😂