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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In todays video I discuss Why Lars has seen so much hate since his release and why he seems to be more hated then ever before. This one hurt to make I actually love lars LOL.
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Let me know what you guys think about lars in this game and which character you want to see me cover next!
I feel a bear video coming soon
Yoshimitsu or Eddy next?
Zafina gets no love.could you do her?
do steve, im kinda dissapointed with his kit, shiro's dead
I could see Law being interesting for a "most hated" thing since a lot of people complain about him
I hated him so much that I picked him up to learn the matchup. …. And I had so much fun I now play him almost more than my main 😂😂
So he is ur main
But he isnt that much hated lol noz comparible to the girls
God I hate his robo girlfriend, Alisa. Piece of junk...
enemy to lover ahh situation 😂
Me 2 hahahahahha
Bro i dont "hate" him but once i see him as my next opponent i have to sit up straight and lean in for match. If u give him a chance to get that power ranger shit going youre fucked
power ranger shit💀
I find it funny that Alisa and Lars are a couple in the story or at least are teased to be and they both have notorious reputation gameplaywise
They are meant for each other LOL
They ruined Tekken. That's when Tekken started becoming scrub friendly. Ruined the game permanently.
@@jinpachichulo7561no?
@@jinpachichulo7561Go lab them and stop complaining.
@@jinpachichulo7561 lol.
Lmao, even.
Why people hate ANY character in Tekken that is not their main?
Lmaooo so true
Didn't notice this til' I saw you mention it xdd
Nah fr tho
If you hate the majority of the cast do you even like Tekken?
The most bitchmade community when it comes to almost anything.
I don't hate most of the characters but like a few are just annoying as fuck lol
Ain’t no body hating Lee 💪 can’t hate a character that needs to work extremely hard to get mid damage 😤
LoL. I love playing him , hate playing against him. He is VERY tricky.
He's tons of fun to play for sure
characters that had their stance cancels (sways and shit) made extremely fast, are killing me
FR BRUVV
That’s my boy … we have gimmicky fake pressure and weak neutral buttons but let us rock
3:20 "ultimate ADHD character" is so freaking real. I have diagnosed ADHD and yes I main lars lol its the only character whose playstyle I like
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As a Lars main, there's not one thing I could disagree with. Even if I'm SGBing myself, Lars can be a little devious to handle when it comes to both using, and, fighting him.
For sure
Well I knew it was inevitable but I'm here. My first Tekken was Tekken 6 and he's been my main since then. He's honestly not as bad as some of the others on the "most hated character" thing so yeah lol.
He will forever be my GOAT
Respect bro 👊
@@Boogard I do appreciate that this video was more respectful overall and you get how Lars can be challenging and isn't as brainless as people claim.
+ I always see the claim from older tekken vets that him and Alisa "anime'fied" tekken and made it bad which is just such a weird opinion considering y'know.
-Paul's hair is inspired by Polnareff
-King is inspired by the character from the "Tiger Mask" manga
-Devil Kazuya is inspired by the manga Devilman and he originally looked like Star Platinum.
And way way more anime references way before Lars and Alisa entered lol.
same here, but i just chose him in 8 because he looks cool, as a newcomer
He was my main in T7 when everybody hated it now i am still maining him in T8, loved how he creates pressure with his fake stances. Also he is not as easy to play with as much everybody thinks it is!
Lars and Alisa are the characters that made me love Tekken.
I always liked Tekken since T3, but you know, it was just a fighting game that you pick up with friends to yell at each other.
But T6 story mode made me love Tekken. First thing that comes in my mind when someone says Lars is the moment when he avenges Alisa and actually manage to beat Jin in a duel..
So idk, even if I play mostly only Bryan in T8 (Just like in every Tekken), I cannot force my self to even dislike them😕
And I must say, Lars players are usually chill Tekken players.
I maybe faced only 1 Lars that ki charged.
They are just enjoying the game and using the moves that the game gave them and I don't mind that at all
Us Lars mains are just trying to have fun, just like Lee mains lol. Pretty much mirroring the actual Tekken story, Mishimas doing all the bullshit while Lars/Lee are chill
go play guilty gear if you like that shit
@Buliwyf90 what shit exactly?
@@Buliwyf90 ?
4:18 You’re right Boogard. The Lars Purists WON’T call it a True 50/50. We however have a special name for Lars D.E.3’s Situation which we affectionately call “THE LARS CASINO” cuz WTF why does he have SO MANY options OUT OF IT?!?!?😂😂😂
lars casino ? never thought of it like that
At first, I didn't wanted to play Lars because he looked "Too anime" in my opinion, but after I saw his wall carry.... It was love at first sight ❤️
"Why Everyone Hates Lars In Tekken 8"
Answer: *Hoes mad*
Don't listen to the playerbase
They're trash
I feel like this character along with his love interest are hated together. Also I feel like story wise he's not that interesting but needs some more things to do to be notable. I played Lars a little bit. He seems pretty good and sometimes a little difficult to get used to twist play style.
I mean honestly Lars had a badass moment where he squared up with True Devil Kazuya and gave him PTSD. That's only in Tekken 8 too so I think there's a lot of hope for him having more.
@@tableprinterdoor Yeah, that was a badass moment in Tekken 8 story mode. It's just that he needs to have more moments like that in future games.
He commands the entire army that is meant to rebel against the main villian. If thats not of any interest then idk what is.
@@strayzzfaxz6740 I think that's cool enough it's just that it's all about perspective with the majority of fans think of him.
@@paytonturner1421 The one thing about the Scenario Campaign in Tekken 6 is that I think it was meant to endear you to Lars, but the way it flows doesn't allow for it because most of the badass moments are in gameplay only, rather than through the story. But you figure the fact that he's able to beat Jin, Azazel (at least the first time around), and can square up against True Devil Kazuya, says a lot as far as his ability to be a badass.
Whenever i dislike a character i try to play them a bit to see what its like. The only ones i still dont respect after trying that that are Alisa, Victor, Eddy and the Bears
Victor is less brain-dead after 1.05 at least. Alisa and her chainsaw bullshit can get fucked.
the hate for Lars comes from a place of ignorance. Stance pressure is fake unlike eddy or Reina. His neutral game is lackluster. Den 3 is only plus 5 which mean you can pc all his mid options or just eat the mediocre low. He still lacks a real threatening low and His frames are garbage on hit.
I don’t want Lars to be op but if u actually break down his character, he is painfully honest to a fault.
He’s a scrub killer sure but he’s clearly lacking when compared to other A-tier characters.
Y’all might not like to hear it but he’s def getting buffs in season 2.
You can't powercrush SEN 1 after DEN 3 on block. Also SEN 2 will CH launch you for trying powercrush.
How is SEN 2 mediocre? It's a chunky low that is like +6 on hit, only -12 on block and CH launches.
Also in your opinion what is a threatening low? Since Lars can do fc d1+2 pretty fast in Tekken 8 for a low poke that does like 24 damage. He also has ff42 as well.
What makes you say his frames are garbage on hit too?
@@CosmicVoid420You can powercrush every option in SEN which is not SEN 2 in any scenario including after DEN 3, hit the lab
SEN 2 actually is a very cool low I think
@@CosmicVoid420 1. I just had my brother test it and yes you can pc sen 1 after den 3
2. Sen 2 forces Lars into crouch and all his options gives up his turn. His crouching 1+2 is fine if the opponent is turtling( it also requires full crouching). His ff 42 is super slow (as it should be).
3. His infamous den 3 is only plus 5 on hit w/o heat. His orbital is super slow. His db1 3 is minus 1 ON HIT. His high execution 14 frame launcher is launch punishable. He gives up his turn on everything that isn’t den 3. All his options to get into stance are fake and can be mid checked if not launched.
@@CosmicVoid420I think that guy above talking about bad frames on hit means general lows, because Lars doesn't have that stature kick-type "tournament" low which would be plus being not launch on block. He either does a low from stance or it's a -1 on hit / launch on block move lol
I personally think that his frames are cool, he is forced to play stances to unlock better moves by design and he doesn't need a super strong neutral.
@@zerozenith7046 2) lies, ws3 will make you plus into LEN game or ws loops. Yes it doesn't frametrap after SEN 2 but who said life should be so easy, we no Feng
3) I think it's honest, no? Shitty lows in neutral + good low in stance = go in stance often, that's the general character idea. He is a confident character, solid frames outside of stance will make him boring
The obnoxious amount of hours I spent playing Lars in T6 online on Xbox 360... I kinda miss playing him, felt like I was on adderall with how fast he is
I hate his hair.
As far as fighting him he spins too much and I feel like I never know what he’s actually doing.
So terrible fashion sense and you don’t pay attention? He needs a buff, he’s too slow compared to past games.
His hair is cool wdym
I hated him so learned him for matchup knowledge, ended up being so much fun he has become my main lmaooooo
LmgMob hasnt stopped playing this character, its cool people are loyal to him without him being op
Played him since 6, never knew he was supposedly OP, 7 was a pain but the wait and suffering until 8 was worth it. However, if he was in the same tier as he was in 7… I’d still play him but--
The most annoying thing to me in this game was his uf3+4 stance. I spent maybe 2 houring labbing Lars with a high level player who's opinion I respect, and when we got to that stance, we realized how stupidly evasive it was as it coulf go both over AND under the majority of our moves. It was like a cracked of Akuma's demon flip with how inconsistent it is hitting Lars outta it. And losing 40 damage to a -4 mid because the stance is so difficult to hit isn't fun.
Now the latest patch addressed this by expanding Lars' hitbox during the stance, so I'll have to see how consistently I can hit it. But man the character enables some real glue sniffing gameplay.
4:04 I know I’m late to this, but Lars’s DEN 3 > SEN 1 can actually be challenged with power crush with 100% consistency with the whole cast. Against characters with power crushing heat engagers (which shouldn’t exist imo) he can actually just forfeit his pressure if the opponent calls your option. As I’ve mained Lars for about 2 and a half years counting Tekken 7, I think one of his biggest weaknesses is that his 50/50s are too symmetrical, as in he suffers more than other characters who create casino scenarios by being outright punished for the opponent guessing right. That’s just my take though, good video overall
Ever since he deflected that rocket in T6 with his forearm, heck, that entire opening in scenario campaign? The writers had sold me on him and now he’s all I play. Minus a few random select matches to make things fair when I fought my siblings and a few times I’ve tried to pick up Jin or Leo. Had no clue he was broken in T6 then came T7 and the suffering and difficulty ranking him up somehow made me enjoy him even more. Loved his style, story and combat style, now my boy switches stances in the best way possible with lightning trails while being so quick he becomes a ball of it and has one of my favorite pieces of fashion in the industry as a default; A freaking long coat?? The devs and writers gathered in their kitchen to cook up something special with this game. Gotta be a bonafide Lars main on the team that spoke up.🤣🤣
Lars is the reason I started playing Tekken more seriously in T6 as I like his fighting style, character, and ((eventually)) his physical design. I even stuck with him in T7 when he weaker. T8 Lars definitely feels better mechanically and at this point I just embrace the hate for the character. Switching between those stances his much harder than people realize. Lars Army always and forever!
I main Lars since T7 it is true that he is a character that one has to go to the lab to understand the strings but it is actually enough to download the ghost of a good Lars to learn the basic strings. And then I wanted to mention that it only has two launchers, the classic ws2 and the other one is with uf4 and it's a hight, very risky
I like Lars in Tekken 8 but I miss Lars from Tekken 7.
Gimmicks aside I miss when 1,1,1 would wallsplat on CH, I miss when B1 would knock opponents back on CH, I miss when B1+2 and d/b1+2 launched on CH, I miss having d/f2,1 and being able to stomp on grounded opponents without having to go into stance to do it :/
I never had a tekken game but your content is really interesting. After reaching master in sf6 I might give a try to tekken
You definitely should it's great right now
Seconded! Tekken is great eight now! The game just got a crucial patch that makes it more balanced and way less braindead
this video is great there's not much i disagree with. although, if you really take the time to lab lars' DEN 3 mixup you can consistintly fuzzy it, at least for me, same with his heat. if you also play jin it's a nightmare for lars as he can just demolish lar's "gimicks." Also Idk if im the only one but i can also react to his silent entry mixups, both hits. so i feel like if you're a really good lars player if you fight someone who knows the matchup completely it is very hard to utilize him. lars definitely has to be creative and read heavy when played seriously.
im not a lars main or anything (i main DJ and Jin) but i love lars, used to hate him when i didnt know the mathcup. so i see both sides.
overall great points.
Got demolished by a jin and yep, was crushed
Couldn't start my ballerina shit the game gave me..
It is what it is 😅
As a Lars player I need to remind you that even though it is somewhat fuzzyable on immediate timing. Lars is able to delay moves in that stance making efficient fuzzy not as simple. Important to note that if they start delaying options, sidestepping becomes viable again which I call the layer 2 of den 3
I mainly despise the fact that Jin's character was derailed so goddamn hard in 6 just to push this guy as the hero.
jin was the antagonist of that game so it makes sense. Someone had to be a protagonist. Lars hated Jin in tekken 6, but Lars had his back when he wanted to turn a new leaf in this game. So I really like him for that. Jin being an antagonist wasn’t executed very well just to push Lars as a character tho, I agree with you on that.
The thing about Lars is, he had to be that outsider to the main Mishima storyline in order to show that not all of Heihachi's family dealt with some kind of inner turmoil that would lead them down a path of evil. Jin's conflict with the Devil gene was what caused him to falter, so you needed Lars in that story in order to bring him back down to earth. Lars is the one guy that was able to resist that temptation to turn evil thanks to the moral foundations he was given by his mother, who told him not to hate Heihachi, and was there for most of his life. Whereas Jin and Kazuya (and now Reina), all carry some kind of trauma that causes them to waver in some way.
@@clippsz It definitely wasn't perfect at the time, but you get what they were trying to do after seeing Lars in Tekken 7 and 8. Lars IMO, is there to be a moral foundation for Jin just as much as Xiaoyu and Jun are. Lars being able to keep being resilient and doing the right thing (even though he easily has enough power and support from his army to go down a malicious path) shows that you can defy the curses of a bloodline and carve your own path. It's typical anime/manga storytelling at the end of the day, really.
"i hAte mY cHaRCatErs hAviNg cHRActEr dEveLopMenT i wAnT tHem tO stAy stAgNaT" genuinely shut up....
@@NemoRackkz I hate character DERAILMENT. I don't see what's so compelling about Jin acting like Kazuya 2.0 and becoming a war criminal for the sake of a stupid plan that didn't even work. I'm against SHITTY character development.
If i see Lars speak swedish once, then my life is complete.
3:42 I remember watching TMM beginner friendly characters video and he said that this move is the same thing as Ken’s dragonlash. but I didn’t know why.
Now I know why 😅
Lars became my main since T6 because he’s cool and strong af
the whole “don’t duck” thing still applies to lars in t8. if he hits the low out of silent entry, he’s like +4 so he doesn’t get anything crazy.
I picked him up in Tekken 7 and never looked back, I picked him when he was at his peak and stuck with him when he fell to his worst. I didn’t care about tier placement or nerfs he received, I first picked him entirely because I thought he looked cool and I stuck around because I genuinely love how he plays.
Not as bad as facing a Xiaoyu or Alisa Imo. Once you figure out the matchup he's quite honest to fight.
Lars is not that annoying to fight if I'm being honest
Mr. Boogard the reality is, Tekken players (myself included LMAO) hate every single character (my main character included, Lars) in this game 😂
Lars is actually my favorite character. Love his design, love the way he moves, and he's so fun to play. He was my favorite since he came in Tekken 6 and he's still my favorite now.
respectable!
Sorry Yall, Tekken 8 is my first Tekken. I picked up Lars cause he was fun to move around with and much less stiff compared to King. I didnt know he was cheap. Too bad 😂
Just enjoy playing the character you like. 😂
alot of characters are cheap in this game i dont think u should mind if u really enjoy him
My main gripe with him is an always has been how god awful his visual design is
He has hair dumb enough to fit a Yu-Gi-Oh protagonist with a fighting style dreamt up by a grade schooler and clothes that even a 90's wrestler would find gaudy, dude even has a cape
And what's worse is how all this doesn't even remotely match his personality, if he actually was a jovial somewhat fun loving guy who leaned into the anime/J-Rock/wrestling aesthetic i might actually have bought it
But noo, he's supposed to be this grizzled, no nonsense military leader and is usually the most serious and up-tight person on screen, and yet he spends 2 hours on hair and another hour on getting dressed to then proceed to fight in THE most impractical way known to man
*You sidetep against Lars*
You: Time to destroy you, Lars.
*Lars move put Lars at 1000km from you*
Lars: CATCH ME OUTSIDE! HOW BA THAT :D !!!
You: 😭😭😭
WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?????????WHY ARE YOU RUNNING??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never thought of it like that I usually get mad cuz his moves don’t track
LOL remember when they accidentally made him broken for one short patch in tekken 7 with the rage drive shit.
Yeah didn't he do unscaled combo damage or something
nah, his f2, 1 sen 1 is a 12 frame natural combo/launcher in s2, bamco hotfixed the move with 2 weeks back then.
edit :it also wall bounced too, almost leading to 98-100+ dmg.
I hit TK on Lars and I can say one thing, he can carry most players to around red rank, after that people start to kinda catch on to your gimmicks and you gotta switch things up
5:15 it's a power crush move, so you can interrupt the start with a low. It rarely happens to me, always catches me off guard when someone manages to break through it. Wouldn't call it infinite range either, that's reserved for Devil Jin's heat smash (pre-nerfs ofc) 😂
I've started playing Tekken since T3 (like a lot of the fan base) and while the game was really enjoyable (as a whole), I could never find a character which I'd particularly enjoyed playing with.
Since Lars was introduced (T6), I immediately fell in love with the character. Like many others, I guess (since he was very popular back then)... He got the moves, movement, flow and design.
He received a lot of hate in Tekken 7 but, unlike many others, that only made me love him even more!
So, let the haters keep on hatin' and the lovers keep on lovin'... As long as Lars is in the game - I'll keep on comin'.
Hating Lars impossible his hair cut though is a completely different story.
Lars and Alisa are my mains since Tekken 6 BR. Dont care about the hate. Its their problem not mine.
Wish the DE1 can extend to DE3 so that he can combo with strong tailspin. Feng and dragunov can access strong tailspin using a 1 string hit move while lars has its only strong tailspin on a stance that he cannot combo properly
Next video Why does everyone hate every character in Tekken 8?
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I’m pretty biased since he’s one of my go to favorites, but since he’s one of my go to’s, I know the match up decently well. After actually knowing what the Lars is doing and going for makes an otherwise miserable match up a really, REALLY fun one imo. Or maybe that’s because I’m a movement junky and his gameplay is eye candy lol
I still main Lili and Jin but started to add Lars as a main in tk8.
I never touched the char in previous games and after seeing story mode whos a good guy commander whos even more protag like than Jin. I had to play him. Hes my first fujin rank char and helped me relearn my fundamentals of tekken. Now I just have the highest dopamine rush hitting his stance buttons or Dynamic 3. That move looks so sick. Yea it was a mistake to make it plus 5 so Silent 1 just makes it a true frame trap but damn in commander Lars we trust.
I actually love Lars. I picked him up in T6 and havent looked back but I will admit i find his playstyle annoying to play with and against. I'm probably the only person who says Lars isnt fun to play. I still love him as a character but the stances are just annoying to me.
i would like to hear your opinion on drag if you have not already put it somewhere (i didnt see it). he was quite hated on release but hes been nerfed now so what do ya think
Lars is almost the perfect B to low A character. A good lars can be oppresive, but not nearly as much like a good Dragnanov can be and he isn't almost widely agreed as the top 2 character in the game as Feng is. He doesnt feel ultra cheap due to how easy it can be to play him like a Victor or an Eddy, but he isn't cheap with a hard learning curve like a Xiaoyu.
He has strong tools and some gimicks to him, but once you figure them out he can feel very honest on what he does with some minor acceptions. Combine that with a good character design, a good personality and story, and it's no wonder as to why he's both loved and hated, but he's in a good position as of right now, and can only go up in season 2.
"Lars is TRASH."
Me: Haha wiiish wooosh stance go brr
Of all the annoying characters to play againts, i'd say he's the most balanced. Think about it. He still have bad lows,only has command throws and none of it wall splats or even ground breaks, doesn't have a parry, he's somewhat an evasive character but compared to feng or paul his evasiveness is at a low tier.
Yeah. I keep telling people that Lars is actually pretty easy to beat once a player figures out his gameplay style and remains patient. A good Lars player has to work 20 times harder just to win around against a good player using a top tier character.
That’s what I’m saying he has trash lows in neutral
I’ve literally always liked Lars
He’s really annoying to fight in tekken 8 but he’s still not like the worst to fight
I always have banging ass matches with Lars players
Lars isn't a middle of the road character. He is totally broken, his den3 is probably the best mid in the game, his low are all very safe for what they do, his punishment is top tier, his backdash is top tier. He doesn't lack a single thing.
And den3 IS a true 50/50, you can simply delay your mid very slightly to kill their fuzzyguard. or delay the low.
Holy shit.
So broken that every pro player thinks he's bottom 5
Bro as a Lars main, getting matched against him SUCKS. I can feel the tension through the screen knowing that me and my opponent may have a similar fighting style and it leaves me blank not knowing what to do hahah we always end up doing the same shit
The real reason I don’t really care for lars is because his hair is stupid and he’s swedish only in name. Otherwise I like his moveset… but I prefer his Tag 2 gameplay.
Im new to Tekken and i picked lars because i thought he was cool. Some of his moves are so badass. I had no idea about his reputation so it’s kinda annoying when i see people hate on me for maining the character. But yea he is not as great as people make him out to me. Also the whole “hold back and guess.” Is exactly how i feel with everyone else’s character. So i say fuck em your characters are just as guilty.
Lars mains stand strong babyyyy 💪🔥🗣️
It will always be fun to scroll comments of people who'd rather write a "DELETE HIM!" comment than lab every one of his gimmicks which is possible in under ten minutes lmao
Also Boogard, pros don't play Lars not because of the SEN being prone to fuzzy (you can delay its options) but because character has virtually no neutral, it is just as in T7 but with a very big tracking buff. As you close in on Lars and he has no room to do his slower DEN 3 and hellsweep he can only resort to making opponent whiff by movement or panicking into something.
Cool video❤
I also think Lars need some buffs or something cus all you gotta do is d1 or df1 and it ceases a lot of his “pressure” yeah he has a shit ton of options but a lot of the pauses he does between stances kind of fucks it up
I always thought he was cool and underrated. He’s definitely misunderstood by the playerbase because people hated when his DEN 3 got buffed by pretty much ignore when other characters get buffed. Next character you should cover is Azucena tho
I swear I have seen like every characters in Tekken 8 being called ‘hated’ 😂
I played around with him just to learn the MU and found him as annoying to play as to play against. I just do not vibe with how his moves look and feel. It's all so awkward. Playing with Lars feels like trying to fence with someone using a saber between their teeth. It's unintuitive, it's dumb, it's impractical and even if you win you feel like a clown.
I main lars, I liked the character ever since I saw him in the naruto ninja storm series as a guest character
however it feels like this character is what most call, ONE. BIG. FAT. KNOWLEDGE CHECK
If I go against someone who has little to no knowledge about lars, I win the match 8/10, but against someone who knows what to look out for in my gameplay I basically just have to play the waiting game and wait for them to goof up somehow
I would love to see Jun next
Crazy how Lars went from one of the most honest characters in T7 to this lolll
So people hate Lars but not the character where you can just X repeatedly n win repeatedly only using X????
We all know who I'm talking about
Maybe u can do a video on Why Everyone Loves..
Lars is not the most hated the most hated are zafina,Alisa,Nina but Nina is the most hatred charecter
I hate him because of his haircut and the fact that he's dating a robot
Alisa best girl
Forgot to mention that lol it's so weird
Reason why I hate him is one that I don't see mentioned enough. He's supposedly the Scandinavian representation in Tekken, but let's be honest here. He's yet another Japanese one with a Swedish name, and the fact that he is there means we'll never get a proper one because it would be weird and clash with Lars
I love him, he is my main, it's sad that other people hate him, but I don't really blame them, since the matchup is kinda hard to learn. That also applies to me as well. I hate ling because of the matchup.
hating something on a fighting game is a norm.
The only thing I hate about Lars is that the dude speaks Japanese despite having ancestry in Sweden. I think Namco should have made him speak Swedish since I don't think Tekken has any Swede representation.
The tldr on lars is like bears or zafina or any other gimmick character hes just a huge knowledge check once you know if he ever and i mean ever enters stance on block itd interruptable and the reason they buffed den 3 is because on block for a move that is at minimum 16 frame startup slow mid more than that in reality because of stance transition anyone could rage art and there was literally nothing lars could do but eat it. Now you can just powercrush to beat everything he has for free especially if you have a safe one since he cant duck out of den 3
along with alisa he's a part of my "guilty gear characters slipping into tekken" group, alisa is worse but lars just drops like half of tekken fundamental rules
1:29
Every character gets hate, especially when you're looking at Twitter. You're just being click blaity
Trust me I know people hate him. If they actually understood the character they would know he really is not that strong. As my EVO day two last loss was the guy popping off and them saying, "fuck lars" and I am just like okay not sure how I earned that response... I feel good Lars mains can mind game and not gimmick other times you just find the cheese like anyone else.
one thing that got me to stop hating characters......learning them
but to add to Lars's online bs: fightinggm once said that he hates online tournaments not just because of lag but because of lars players lmao
i starting playing lars from tekken 6 until now tekken 8 . but i still have a love hate relaytionship with lars . idk why .
wait what..?? everyone hates lars for being OP? but ain't everyone put him in a low tier list?
Are you planning to make a video like this about June, or is she not so hated anymore?
All of the characters introduced in Tekken 6 are annoying in ways that none of the characters were before. It's like they tried their hardest to make people angry with these fighting styles. Leo is the least annoying by far, but Lars, Alisa, and Zafina are all an exercise in emotional control.
Edit: I forgot about Bob and Miguel 😅 Not as annoying as the others, but once Bob was nerfed he wasn't a big deal, and also no one else ver picked Miguel.
So something id like to point out. Firstly: while the silent entry is theoretically option selectable cant you just delay the buttons in the stance for a bit so it no longer is? its only 3 frames like you said. so if you aren't buffering the sen 1 but instead mashing it 3 frames late... well now its a true 50/50
secondly: lets talk about the bad stance transitions like df2. Yes this is 100% option selectable on block there might be some weird singular characters that cant, but for the sake of the argument lets say it is. DF2 for example leaves you at -3 in stance and -11 on cancel. so you would need an 11 frame mid with low recovery to beat all options and get your punish if they cancel the stance. but lets even ignore that. So normal df1 beats all the stance options. but for some reason you even so see some really really strong players miss this option select. Why? mainly just mental stack at least i think so. there are SOO many things and so many strong transitions to think so that being late on this is 100% like possible. AND THATS A WEAK TRANSITION FOR HIM.
What about Situations like ws2 where he has 5 different things to do after the ws2 (do nothing this is safe, ws21, ws23, ws2~f, ws2~d) so you need to be so so fast to react to the stance which i would argue is impossible or at least near impossible to do. so its even still a guessing game. Obviously lars does take a big risk doing this. the stances are launch if the defender guesses right after all, but its is a guess.
I would say that on top of what you said, pros don't really play Lars because while the stance transitions etc. are really hard to deal with and even if you NEED to guess. The risk reward isn't great for lars. Which means that as long as your punishment and your move choices are good lars will in a long term lose more damage from those 50/50s than he gets, because the risk is so much bigger. But all that goes out the window if you arent talking optimal play. Suddenly the infinite 50/50s just win games for free.
And after all that. he has evasive moves like ORBITAL crushing mids that he most definitely should not have. there is no reason why at -6 on block after 2,1 he can mash an orbital that will evade like 90% of the mid checks and probably 100% of the high checks the enemy can do. and since its an orbital any (assuming it gets jump status at i9) i15 or slower low will also get crushed.
hate his guts sliding around all over like hes on skate ugh
I start in t7 and didnt fell anything for lars since he was bad for most of tekken7 life but in t8 with hewt he a ninja strok charcter
I geniunely think lars and alisa permantely ruined tekken both gameplay wise and story wise
I always see the claim from older tekken vets that him and Alisa "anime'fied" tekken and made it bad which is just such a weird opinion considering y'know.
-Paul's hair is inspired by Polnareff
-King is inspired by the character from the "Tiger Mask" manga
-Devil Kazuya is inspired by the manga Devilman and he originally looked like Star Platinum as well.
-Kazuya and Jin's gloves are equal to Star Platinum's
-Kazuya has so many similarities to Vegeta and so many of the final battles had DB inspiration for the fights
And way way more anime references way before Lars and Alisa entered lol.
@@tableprinterdoor I think they mean gameplay wise
you not consuming a meal ruined the story
@@rogercolon619 I mean they've had literal lasers and stomach mouth projectiles and flippy kicks since the beginning
@@tableprinterdoor I get it , but it was in a way still grounded , other than having dinosaurs , kangaroos , robots , demons , ninjas ! You know what man , Im taking my comment back lol
he is extremely easy to use.
I just hate characters thats fucking zoom around, puffs of smoke, crazy effects, clones etc all over the screen
Where is the "everyone hates Jin" video? I play him and i hear Azucena, Yoshi and Raven players hate my character constantly when they are playing some of the biggest douchebag characters that exist in T8
What's wrong with Raven?
@@grumpykuma2569 He is one of the hardest matchups to play against while also being one of the rarer characters in the game, which results in one of the most dumb characters you can abuse in the game. You cant exactly say "just learn the matchup" when the character is this gimmicky. He is also pretty much impossible to properly lab when there are countless cheap setups that are not obvious to someone who doesnt straight up main the character. And combine that with the lack of anti-raven guides that cover just in how many ways Raven can rob you in a match. And you wouldn't learn this matchup first since there arent a lot of players that play Raven, so its not worth it to spend time learning this exhausting matchup over Yoshi for example, who you are way more likely to face.
And there are straight up a lot of dumb tools as well, like the frame 1 reversal parry or what do you even call it
I hate Lars as a former Lars player because I REALLY liked his old df2, 1 and the replacement move is boring as hell.
I main Lars but I understand why people hate him because Lars players are majority of the time unreadable and use moves that the opponent won't expect
Is there anything people like in Tekken 8?
its complicated to be a true Tekken fan u must hate everybody that's not your main