I am so incredibly impressed with the ancient Greeks whose minds and self-awareness were so profoundly ahead of their time. Maybe it was the Mediterranean sun, the ripe olives or just too much wine. Whatever the cause, they had an understanding of the human condition that I find beyond impressive. I firmly believe Man has had few original ideas that the Greeks hadn't thought of first.
@@AL73250 maybe it is one of those few original ideas that the Greeks did not think of first. You know that the ancient consciousness of time is precisely the opposite of that of modernity (progress), for them the passage of time was a degradation of the past.
Wow. A labor of love, and I loved every second of it. Personally, though, I always feel terrible when a dog meets a bad fate in a movie, or its owner dies. Think of "Greyfrier's Bobby", or "Old Yeller".
Bertolt Brecht wrote about another type of tragedy in the style of "epic theater" in contrast to the traditional "dramatic theater": "The spectator of the dramatic theater says: Yes, I have felt that too. - That’s how I am. - That’s only natural. - That will always be the case. - The suffering of this person shakes me, because there is no way out for him. - That is great art: everything is obvious. - I cry with the crying, I laugh with the laughing. The spectator of the epic theater says: I would not have thought that. - You can’t do it that way. - That is very striking, almost unbelievable. - That has to stop. - The suffering of this person shakes me, because there would be a way out for him. - That is great art: nothing is obvious. - I laugh at the crying, I cry over the laughing." The tragedies of epic theater are tragic not because there happened something inevitable but because the whole thing could have been prevented. It doesn't make you feel with the protagonists, but instead judge them critically. It tries to get you to think, not feel.
The best horror films are fundamentally tragedies. The Wolf Man is the tragedy of an innocent man afflicted by a curse beyond his control. Pet Sematary is the tragedy of a family torn apart by grief and loss. Hellraiser is the tragedy of a family torn apart by obsession and infidelity. ReAnimator is a Shakespearean tragedy of hubris, lust, and egotism. Critics don't recognize the underlying tragedy that makes horror great because they get too distracted by the gooey bits. It's also why so many modern horror films miss the mark- too many twists and jump scares, without the catharsis.
Excellent video which shows your impressive breadth of film knowledge. Gotta love a list that uses the Greek myths as archetypes of tragedy, and the use of 'ineluctable' alone justifies liking and subscribing. So pleased to see Berri's films, based faithfully on Pagnol's devastating Water of the Hills, acknowledged as the über-tragedy. Bravo!
I watched Jean de Florette after seeing this video. What an incredible film. The movement of the camera and composition felt so rich. I don't think there was a single frame in the film that I couldn't sink my teeth into. In terms of cinematography, acting, writing, and directing, this earns a spot as a coveted 5 star rating for me. I've got it ranked 11 on my top 100. It takes a special kind of film to make me feel these things and this one excelled at that.
There's a scene in Manon De Sources near the end where the old man and the girl are sat on a bench that is incredible, brilliant films, I'm going to have to watch them again, and another great video from Moviewise
What about Paradise Lost.....the Paradise Lost film? Martin Scorcese's Mean Streets and Goodfellas are about protagonists initially describing a "utopia" (good ole days, innocent youth, close knit world) that eventually falls apart. Scorcese cites Federico Fellini's I Vitelloni (about a brat pack of young guys in a dying seaside town in Italy post-WW 2). In the film, a group of guys realizes they have to grow up, days of clowning around are over as local economy is drying up and town is slowly becoming deserted with young people leaving for Rome or other big cities to find work (its implied that one of the guy's sister has left to become a prostitute). In 1954, this was the earliest film to focus on young people (teenagers) believe it or not! Scorcese goes back to that theme often, the "things will never be the same again, and it's time to evolve" movie. Other examples might be Trainspotting, Boys In the Hood, Good Time, Millionaire Slum Dog....hmm, lot of stories about young (men) trying to break out the "ghetto" or one-horse town.
Even though I disagree with some of your picks (how could you pick Unforgiven over Shane?!?) this is probably my favorite video of yours. I've watched it like three times. Love comparison to Greek tragedy, it makes me appreciate these movies on a whole new level other than just simple "tragedy".
My favourite movie tragedy is probably Barry Lyndon, but there's many to choose from. I loved this video and I love how informative and actually funny ALL of your videos are, you are without a doubt one of if not my favourite youtuber on the whole website right now
My sister and I decided to have a girls’ movie night, and because we both loved French films we did a double header with “Jean de Florette” and “Manon of the Spring”. At about 2:00 A.M. the final revelation at the end of “Manon” had us screaming “Noooooooo!!!!!” out loud which woke up my husband and our boys. It was too hard to explain it to them, so the next evening we all watched the movies. At the same spot they were also shouting “No way!” too. I’ve watched the films several times and that ending still has such a visceral effect on me.
Perhaps the most underrated (and unexpected, considering the films are not mysteries at all) plot twist of all time. I get chills when I just think about that scene.
It seems it's a long way before this channel is recognised by the mobs. till then Man keep that Creativity alive.... !!! (Meanwhile you can upload some shorts too from your vids cause they seem to be popping up new channels too ..👍 any ways great vid man)
Fantastic and so instructive work. Prior to watching, I had many expectations, especially regarding Old Boy. But you really got me with the last one. A set of two movies that I saw when I was young and that I have been able to watch again, overwhelmed that I was with such a terrible and sad story. Marcel Pagnol was quite of a teller. Thank you very much.
Anyone who watched this without seeing Jean De Florette & Manon of The Spring, you don't realise you just experienced the true tragedy because that movie is absolutely phenomenal, the best 2 part story in movie history (yes, better than Godfather) getting any of it spoiled is a bigger tragedy than anything which happens in the films on this list.
It's impressive how knowledgeable you are about greek tragedy and its relation to modern films. Could you please suggest some book about this theme? I'd like to study more, your video was an inspiration.
Thanks for this! A wonderful comparison of tales ancient & modern. I tried to watch Uncut Gems but I just couldn't get past half an hour of shouting, people talking over one-another & the shaky camera. With the English Patient & before it Jean de Florette+Manon de Source, I was deeply struck by the tragedy & sadness. Years later & I haven't rewatched them - maybe it is time I did.
Your video essays about frame size and blocking were done with extraordinary clarity.. Truly revelatory, as if I have been asleep all this time. Do more with less. Go with long takes. Imposed constraint is a freedom. and Edit as a last resort Be well and carry on!
A refreshing video, an interesting take on tragedies 😀 You have one of the greatest movie channels on youtube! Deserving to be with milllion subscribers. I can't believe what I've just seen - your movie knowledge is so impressive, correlating it with classic Greek tragedies and literary masterpieces from Shakespeare to Eugene O' Neill...brilliant! I will sit one weekend and go through all your videos, but this one I will have a closer look a few more times.
My favourite movie tragedy is definitely Inside Llewyn Davis. We see am obviously talented fella doomed to an endless cycle of failure. And his own stubbornness won't let him find another line of work. We basically just see the guy get kicked in the nuts repeatedly by life with no end in sight.
A couple of my choices would be - Bergman’s The Virgin Spring and Bjork’s Dancing in the Dark. I don’t know which Greek myths they fit into. Great fun to watch your choices and sly comments.
This was fascinating, thank you. Will be returning to it. Not Greek, but how about the tragedy of the fall? The state of peace and innocence to which one can never return, e.g. The Man Who Fell to Earth. Can't think of any others off the top of my head - EDIT: Time of the Gypsies - though there are movies that depict a sort of interim state of innocence or a utopia that will ultimately be painfully lost. Portrait of a Lady on Fire and Sonatine are examples. EDIT: And to go Greek, of course, one might give Pandora as an equivalent loss of innocence myth, though it's not the same story. In fact it's more like... ...the Prometheus myth: powerful discoveries and inventions that bring ruin to those behind them, The Fly and The Invisible Man for instance. Also, how about Cassandra? The original Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. Midas: Citizen Kane? And I'm wondering if there are any for Actaeon, though, in a funny sort of way, that might be The Fly and the Invisible Man too. Or maybe it's Drowning by Numbers, looking at it from a slightly different angle.
I think I see where you're going with this. Martin Scorcese's Mean Streets and Goodfellas are about protagonists initially describing a "utopia" (good ole days, innocent youth, close knit world) that eventually falls apart. Scorcese cites Federico Fellini's I Vitelloni (about a brat pack of young guys in a dying seaside town in Italy post-WW 2). In the film, a group of guys realizes they have to grow up, days of clowning around are over as local economy is drying up and town is slowly becoming deserted with young people leaving for Rome or other big cities to find work (its implied that one of the guy's sister has left to become a prostitute). In 1954, this was the earliest film to focus on young people (teenagers) believe it or not! Scorcese goes back to that theme often, the "things will never be the same again, and it's time to evolve" movie. Other examples might be Trainspotting, Boys In the Hood, Good Time, Millionaire Slum Dog....hmm, lot of stories about young (men) trying to break out the "ghetto" or one-horse town.
This is such a brilliant video ! I Learned a ton and I can't wait to watch the films on this list that I haven't already seen. This is by far my favourite film related video essay channel on youtube, as a filmmaker I've already taken inspiration from your analysis' and I was wondering if you had made anything or if you were planning to ? Because if so I would really love to see it. Thank you for your videos and please keep making content this good 🙏
I would add a few more types: Getting old. Like the movie the Patriarch. Desperation for any meaning like in the Whale. I guess All Quiet in the Western Front falls under total tragedy with similar tragedy war movies. Unexpected tragedy for when everything seems fine, but the character doesn't realize that he/she was just wrong in their goal all along. I don't have a handy example for twist tragedies. Curiously I can cite the inversion of a tragedy. The 1991 Ninja Turtles movie is a tragedy until the very last scene where Splinter shows up on the roof. Seriously, if he'd not shown up, it's a series of failures, injuries, Splinter being kidnapped, and then ending with all of them being murdered.
I just love your videos! Your blocking video introduced me to I, Claudius and I thank you for that. But one thing I can’t figure out… what is your accent?!?
I need blog lists of your recommendations. What's your accent, anyway? It sounds like advanced English as Second Language, but neutral at the same time
I used to think you’re not being a famous screenwriter or director was an unforgivable loss to our culture. And then you called the UNWATCHABLE Uncut Gems the best film of the past decade.
Oh, yes! If you need only one book: Ovid's "Metamorphoses": Most of these stories are in this book, which is not only one of the best works of poetry ever written, but an encyclopedia of Greek and Roman mythology. Oedipus and Antigone: Sophocles' "Oedipus Rex", "Oedipus at Colonus" and "Antigone": Three tragedies about Oedipus' downfall and Antigone's end. If you also want to read about the war between Oedipus' sons Eteocles and Polynices, you can check Euripides' "The Phoenician Women", Aeschylus' "Seven Against Thebes" and the epic "Thebaid" by Statius. Heracles: Euripides' "Herakles" and Sophocles' "Women of Trachis". Two tragedies about different points in the life of Heracles. Atreus: Seneca's "Thyestes" and Aeschylus' "Oresteia". Seneca's tragedy is about Atreus' brutal revenge against Thyestes and Aeschylus' trilogy is about Agamemnon's return, murder and Orestes' vengeance. Enjoy ;)
Plan 9 from Outer Space is one of the great tragedies of cinema. Aliens come to Earth to prevent humans from destroying the entire universe. Sadly, they are defeated because humans are stupid brutes.
I haven’t seen most of these movies and don’t really care about Greek mythology but it’s definitely useful to categorize films thematically to get a better understanding of different ways of creating memorable stories.
Same here. I would like to learn more about Greek mythology but I can't get into it, even when narrated by Stephen Fry it quickly became an insufferable mess of characters. The names merge and so does the tragedies because there's so many of them. Greek mythology is like Olympic one-upmanship in human misery. Its influence is fascinating though.
Adam Sandler!?!? I shouldn't be that surprised. Inside every comedian is a dead serious drama actor struggling to get out. Like Bill Murray in "The Razor's Edge."
Can a movie be great if it tells a libelous story? I can’t stomach Amadeus because it’s a total fabrication. It’s slander against Salieri and Mozart. There is no universal truth in a goddam cheap individual lie. I find this movie and the play despicable.
Pretty superficial. Scarface, for example, cannot be considered a tragedy because the main character is stupid and evil. Why not use Adolph Hitler? No one considers the downfall of Hitler tragic (well, no one in their right mind)...same with Scarface. As for Antione, the plot is a LOT more complicated than what is presented. For one thing, Antigone does not bury her brother's body; she does what she can and sprinkles dirt on the corpse. Having done all she can she is in the clear...but then goes back and tries to do the same thing again! It is called a death wish--messing around until she is caught. Brought before Creon, the over-his-head king gives her an out: Perhaps you did not hear of my edict?" She defiantly declares that she did, leaving him with no room for mercy. Things like that. Still a tragedy, at least.
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I am so incredibly impressed with the ancient Greeks whose minds and self-awareness were so profoundly ahead of their time. Maybe it was the Mediterranean sun, the ripe olives or just too much wine. Whatever the cause, they had an understanding of the human condition that I find beyond impressive. I firmly believe Man has had few original ideas that the Greeks hadn't thought of first.
I say they were not ahead of their times, the positive progress of history is simply a lie.
@@AL73250 maybe it is one of those few original ideas that the Greeks did not think of first. You know that the ancient consciousness of time is precisely the opposite of that of modernity (progress), for them the passage of time was a degradation of the past.
Wow. A labor of love, and I loved every second of it. Personally, though, I always feel terrible when a dog meets a bad fate in a movie, or its owner dies. Think of "Greyfrier's Bobby", or "Old Yeller".
Watch A Fish Called Wanda, you might get some laughs out of it
Try the animated film "The Plague Dogs."
Bertolt Brecht wrote about another type of tragedy in the style of "epic theater" in contrast to the traditional "dramatic theater":
"The spectator of the dramatic theater says: Yes, I have felt that too. - That’s how I am. - That’s only natural. - That will always be the case. - The suffering of this person shakes me, because there is no way out for him. - That is great art: everything is obvious. - I cry with the crying, I laugh with the laughing.
The spectator of the epic theater says: I would not have thought that. - You can’t do it that way. - That is very striking, almost unbelievable. - That has to stop. - The suffering of this person shakes me, because there would be a way out for him. - That is great art: nothing is obvious. - I laugh at the crying, I cry over the laughing."
The tragedies of epic theater are tragic not because there happened something inevitable but because the whole thing could have been prevented. It doesn't make you feel with the protagonists, but instead judge them critically. It tries to get you to think, not feel.
The best horror films are fundamentally tragedies. The Wolf Man is the tragedy of an innocent man afflicted by a curse beyond his control. Pet Sematary is the tragedy of a family torn apart by grief and loss. Hellraiser is the tragedy of a family torn apart by obsession and infidelity. ReAnimator is a Shakespearean tragedy of hubris, lust, and egotism. Critics don't recognize the underlying tragedy that makes horror great because they get too distracted by the gooey bits. It's also why so many modern horror films miss the mark- too many twists and jump scares, without the catharsis.
Excellent video which shows your impressive breadth of film knowledge. Gotta love a list that uses the Greek myths as archetypes of tragedy, and the use of 'ineluctable' alone justifies liking and subscribing. So pleased to see Berri's films, based faithfully on Pagnol's devastating Water of the Hills, acknowledged as the über-tragedy. Bravo!
Pagnol's "Jean de Fleurette" and "Manon" are beyond a doubt the most heart-breaking tragedy ever written. Great work and thank you!
I watched Jean de Florette after seeing this video. What an incredible film. The movement of the camera and composition felt so rich. I don't think there was a single frame in the film that I couldn't sink my teeth into. In terms of cinematography, acting, writing, and directing, this earns a spot as a coveted 5 star rating for me. I've got it ranked 11 on my top 100. It takes a special kind of film to make me feel these things and this one excelled at that.
That did not feel like 27 minutes. You have a good voice suitable for long conversations and pace the videos perfectly.
Thank you for the positive words!
Thank you for the positive words!
I've been binging a lot of your videos over the past several days. You've made me want to watch movies again.
There's a scene in Manon De Sources near the end where the old man and the girl are sat on a bench that is incredible, brilliant films, I'm going to have to watch them again, and another great video from Moviewise
What about Paradise Lost.....the Paradise Lost film? Martin Scorcese's Mean Streets and Goodfellas are about protagonists initially describing a "utopia" (good ole days, innocent youth, close knit world) that eventually falls apart. Scorcese cites Federico Fellini's I Vitelloni (about a brat pack of young guys in a dying seaside town in Italy post-WW 2). In the film, a group of guys realizes they have to grow up, days of clowning around are over as local economy is drying up and town is slowly becoming deserted with young people leaving for Rome or other big cities to find work (its implied that one of the guy's sister has left to become a prostitute). In 1954, this was the earliest film to focus on young people (teenagers) believe it or not! Scorcese goes back to that theme often, the "things will never be the same again, and it's time to evolve" movie. Other examples might be Trainspotting, Boys In the Hood, Good Time, Millionaire Slum Dog....hmm, lot of stories about young (men) trying to break out the "ghetto" or one-horse town.
Even though I disagree with some of your picks (how could you pick Unforgiven over Shane?!?) this is probably my favorite video of yours. I've watched it like three times. Love comparison to Greek tragedy, it makes me appreciate these movies on a whole new level other than just simple "tragedy".
My favourite movie tragedy is probably Barry Lyndon, but there's many to choose from. I loved this video and I love how informative and actually funny ALL of your videos are, you are without a doubt one of if not my favourite youtuber on the whole website right now
My sister and I decided to have a girls’ movie night, and because we both loved French films we did a double header with “Jean de Florette” and “Manon of the Spring”. At about 2:00 A.M. the final revelation at the end of “Manon” had us screaming “Noooooooo!!!!!” out loud which woke up my husband and our boys. It was too hard to explain it to them, so the next evening we all watched the movies. At the same spot they were also shouting “No way!” too. I’ve watched the films several times and that ending still has such a visceral effect on me.
Perhaps the most underrated (and unexpected, considering the films are not mysteries at all) plot twist of all time. I get chills when I just think about that scene.
Great video. Ajax tragedy category is also greatly represented in 'The Prestige'.
Laughed pretty hard when you said "...and of course Elaine Benes' favorite movie..."
It seems it's a long way before this channel is recognised by the mobs. till then Man keep that Creativity alive.... !!!
(Meanwhile you can upload some shorts too from your vids cause they seem to be popping up new channels too ..👍 any ways great vid man)
I’m considering that, great recommendation!
Holy shit this is such a great video. Would like to know your watch list, do you have one?
Glad you liked the video! I keep a watchlist on IMDb of the films I intend to watch, it’s currently at 4151.
Only 4000 movies? (!) Lolz. (Shoutout for "mourning becomes Electra"!) @Moviewise
I subscribed to you, you silly man.
Fantastic and so instructive work. Prior to watching, I had many expectations, especially regarding Old Boy. But you really got me with the last one. A set of two movies that I saw when I was young and that I have been able to watch again, overwhelmed that I was with such a terrible and sad story. Marcel Pagnol was quite of a teller. Thank you very much.
Marcel Pagnol was indeed an incredible writer. And thank you for the comment!
You missed the one tragedy to rule them all - The Last Jedi.
"It's funny how gentle people get with you once you're dead". 😆
Anyone who watched this without seeing Jean De Florette & Manon of The Spring, you don't realise you just experienced the true tragedy because that movie is absolutely phenomenal, the best 2 part story in movie history (yes, better than Godfather) getting any of it spoiled is a bigger tragedy than anything which happens in the films on this list.
It's impressive how knowledgeable you are about greek tragedy and its relation to modern films. Could you please suggest some book about this theme? I'd like to study more, your video was an inspiration.
Thanks for this! A wonderful comparison of tales ancient & modern.
I tried to watch Uncut Gems but I just couldn't get past half an hour of shouting, people talking over one-another & the shaky camera.
With the English Patient & before it Jean de Florette+Manon de Source, I was deeply struck by the tragedy & sadness. Years later & I haven't rewatched them - maybe it is time I did.
This is a Masterful channel
Just done a binge-watch and subscribed
May the gods of the Algorithms
Bless you more deservedly
Amen!
Your video essays about frame size
and blocking were done with extraordinary clarity..
Truly revelatory, as if I have been asleep all this time.
Do more with less.
Go with long takes.
Imposed constraint is a freedom.
and Edit as a last resort
Be well and carry on!
A refreshing video, an interesting take on tragedies 😀 You have one of the greatest movie channels on youtube! Deserving to be with milllion subscribers. I can't believe what I've just seen - your movie knowledge is so impressive, correlating it with classic Greek tragedies and literary masterpieces from Shakespeare to Eugene O' Neill...brilliant! I will sit one weekend and go through all your videos, but this one I will have a closer look a few more times.
Absolutely using the best examples from world cinema. A true cinephile.
Thank you for your videos...I learnt a lot new things about cinema which I never knew....thanks a lot 🙏🙏🙏❤️👏
Yesssssss the Hadestown references! ❤️❤️❤️ 😂 I’m a sad, old theater kid, lol.
This was a fantastic experience. Thank you for all the effort you put into it.
Cure by Kiyoshi Kurosawa is one of my favorites. Kurosawa has made several great, challenging tragedies actually. Plus he is a master of framing.
Why not 'A History of Violence' for the Herakles category? It's a tad more family oriented, no?
Can you believe A History of Violence didn’t come to my mind? What a crazy oversight, it fits the story arc so well!
@@Moviewise Carlito's Way would also fit perhabs
Amazing analyses
Very nice overview.
Such a great recap!!! One of my favorite 'recent' tragedies is 'The Prestige', cant stop watching that movie over and over.
really excellent video
What exactly did you study? You know so much!! Thanks a million for the video
@24:40 - Quentin T. gets a shot! ROFL. Been said before: Great vids! You should have lots more subs.
Deep content, and superbly presented! BRAVO SIR!
Amazing video.
Revisiting this masterclass in cine appreciation. Thank you.
My favourite movie tragedy is definitely Inside Llewyn Davis. We see am obviously talented fella doomed to an endless cycle of failure. And his own stubbornness won't let him find another line of work. We basically just see the guy get kicked in the nuts repeatedly by life with no end in sight.
I also thought about that one.
So he is Narcissus, unable to tear himself away from the dream, that closes with a hint of Ajax at the end with the Bob Dylan like arrival.
I’m giving this doc an A+. Practically perfect ❤🎉
The Age of Innocence for me for the star-crossed lovers theme.
Your list--as all such lists are--is unique, subjective, yet justified.
I genuinely learn a lot from your videos.
A couple of my choices would be - Bergman’s The Virgin Spring and Bjork’s Dancing in the Dark. I don’t know which Greek myths they fit into. Great fun to watch your choices and sly comments.
This was fascinating, thank you. Will be returning to it.
Not Greek, but how about the tragedy of the fall? The state of peace and innocence to which one can never return, e.g. The Man Who Fell to Earth. Can't think of any others off the top of my head - EDIT: Time of the Gypsies - though there are movies that depict a sort of interim state of innocence or a utopia that will ultimately be painfully lost. Portrait of a Lady on Fire and Sonatine are examples.
EDIT: And to go Greek, of course, one might give Pandora as an equivalent loss of innocence myth, though it's not the same story. In fact it's more like...
...the Prometheus myth: powerful discoveries and inventions that bring ruin to those behind them, The Fly and The Invisible Man for instance.
Also, how about Cassandra? The original Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. Midas: Citizen Kane? And I'm wondering if there are any for Actaeon, though, in a funny sort of way, that might be The Fly and the Invisible Man too. Or maybe it's Drowning by Numbers, looking at it from a slightly different angle.
Excellent suggestions! Spot on!
I think I see where you're going with this. Martin Scorcese's Mean Streets and Goodfellas are about protagonists initially describing a "utopia" (good ole days, innocent youth, close knit world) that eventually falls apart. Scorcese cites Federico Fellini's I Vitelloni (about a brat pack of young guys in a dying seaside town in Italy post-WW 2). In the film, a group of guys realizes they have to grow up, days of clowning around are over as local economy is drying up and town is slowly becoming deserted with young people leaving for Rome or other big cities to find work (its implied that one of the guy's sister has left to become a prostitute). In 1954, this was the earliest film to focus on young people (teenagers) believe it or not! Scorcese goes back to that theme often, the "things will never be the same again, and it's time to evolve" movie. Other examples might be Trainspotting, Boys In the Hood, Good Time, Millionaire Slum Dog....hmm, lot of stories about young (men) trying to break out the "ghetto" or one-horse town.
This is such a brilliant video ! I Learned a ton and I can't wait to watch the films on this list that I haven't already seen. This is by far my favourite film related video essay channel on youtube, as a filmmaker I've already taken inspiration from your analysis' and I was wondering if you had made anything or if you were planning to ? Because if so I would really love to see it. Thank you for your videos and please keep making content this good 🙏
Tragedy...hmmm... 'The Field' might be a good fit.
Very good, deserves more views
amazing. thank you so much !
I would add a few more types: Getting old. Like the movie the Patriarch. Desperation for any meaning like in the Whale. I guess All Quiet in the Western Front falls under total tragedy with similar tragedy war movies. Unexpected tragedy for when everything seems fine, but the character doesn't realize that he/she was just wrong in their goal all along. I don't have a handy example for twist tragedies. Curiously I can cite the inversion of a tragedy. The 1991 Ninja Turtles movie is a tragedy until the very last scene where Splinter shows up on the roof. Seriously, if he'd not shown up, it's a series of failures, injuries, Splinter being kidnapped, and then ending with all of them being murdered.
Good selections. Not always the obvious ones.
This was fantastic.
I’m glad you think Scarface is a tragedy. I’ve always thought so.
Torch Song Trilogy.
Peter's Friends.
I haven't watched enough films.
What a video!!
I just love your videos! Your blocking video introduced me to I, Claudius and I thank you for that. But one thing I can’t figure out… what is your accent?!?
I need blog lists of your recommendations. What's your accent, anyway? It sounds like advanced English as Second Language, but neutral at the same time
Austrian
I used to think you’re not being a famous screenwriter or director was an unforgivable loss to our culture.
And then you called the UNWATCHABLE Uncut Gems the best film of the past decade.
King Kong 1933, when I was a kid made me pretty sad😢
Any books you would recommend where i could learn about the tragedies you talked about?
Oh, yes!
If you need only one book:
Ovid's "Metamorphoses": Most of these stories are in this book, which is not only one of the best works of poetry ever written, but an encyclopedia of Greek and Roman mythology.
Oedipus and Antigone:
Sophocles' "Oedipus Rex", "Oedipus at Colonus" and "Antigone": Three tragedies about Oedipus' downfall and Antigone's end.
If you also want to read about the war between Oedipus' sons Eteocles and Polynices, you can check Euripides' "The Phoenician Women", Aeschylus' "Seven Against Thebes" and the epic "Thebaid" by Statius.
Heracles:
Euripides' "Herakles" and Sophocles' "Women of Trachis". Two tragedies about different points in the life of Heracles.
Atreus:
Seneca's "Thyestes" and Aeschylus' "Oresteia". Seneca's tragedy is about Atreus' brutal revenge against Thyestes and Aeschylus' trilogy is about Agamemnon's return, murder and Orestes' vengeance.
Enjoy ;)
You’re the best! Thank you
Ooh! The Prestige is Ajax's tragedy ???
So true indeed!
"I AM THE PATRON SAINT OF MEDIOCRITY" ..
love that.
It's hilarious that the gods are portrayed as Prince Eugene.
Wow, Icarus plunged harder than Meta stock
Nah, c'mon, this is just too good
I thought for sure that the pick for Narcissus would be There Will Be Blood.
Heracles tragedy is also... Porco Rosso
The Orpheus one “Black Orpheus” movie is retelling of it
2:56 what music is this ?
I believe it’s called Tony’s Theme, by Giorgio Moroder
Chinatown
Oldboy
Boogie nights
Amadeus
Killing of a sacred deer
The lobster
The favourite
Love that shit!!
Which category is The Wild Bunch in?
Plan 9 from Outer Space is one of the great tragedies of cinema. Aliens come to Earth to prevent humans from destroying the entire universe. Sadly, they are defeated because humans are stupid brutes.
So now we know you like musicals. 👍
I haven’t seen most of these movies and don’t really care about Greek mythology but it’s definitely useful to categorize films thematically to get a better understanding of different ways of creating memorable stories.
Same here. I would like to learn more about Greek mythology but I can't get into it, even when narrated by Stephen Fry it quickly became an insufferable mess of characters. The names merge and so does the tragedies because there's so many of them. Greek mythology is like Olympic one-upmanship in human misery.
Its influence is fascinating though.
So Army of Darkeness' alternate ending where he sleeps for too long would be what? A tragedy of incompetence and stupidity?
Farewell My Concubine. Gallipoli. Sophie's Choice. Breaker Morant.
Adam Sandler!?!?
I shouldn't be that surprised.
Inside every comedian is a dead serious drama actor struggling to get out.
Like Bill Murray in "The Razor's Edge."
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Note to self: do not feast in Greece
Sorry, Uncut is derivative and unimaginative. Sandler mostly yelling and visiting pawnshops.
I watched 'The English Patient'...it was (to me) dull! dull! dull! I much preferred Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Whats the movie at 8:43?
Titus
4:32
Movie name?
A Man for All Seasons (Fred Zinnemann, 1966)
@@Moviewise Thanks. Video's one year old, still you respond in less than 2h
Can a movie be great if it tells a libelous story? I can’t stomach Amadeus because it’s a total fabrication. It’s slander against Salieri and Mozart. There is no universal truth in a goddam cheap individual lie. I find this movie and the play despicable.
the donkey in Au Hazard Balthazar
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Just keep studying and pushing it, there's no secret!
@@Moviewise any books recommendations?? please
@@hemanthkarri107 About cinema? Just about anything by David Bordwell, he's the best!
@@Moviewise okay thank you
Pretty superficial. Scarface, for example, cannot be considered a tragedy because the main character is stupid and evil. Why not use Adolph Hitler? No one considers the downfall of Hitler tragic (well, no one in their right mind)...same with Scarface. As for Antione, the plot is a LOT more complicated than what is presented. For one thing, Antigone does not bury her brother's body; she does what she can and sprinkles dirt on the corpse. Having done all she can she is in the clear...but then goes back and tries to do the same thing again! It is called a death wish--messing around until she is caught. Brought before Creon, the over-his-head king gives her an out:
Perhaps you did not hear of my edict?" She defiantly declares that she did, leaving him with no room for mercy. Things like that. Still a tragedy, at least.