Can Capitalism Solve World Hunger?

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    We're often told just how productive a capitalist economy is. We produce far more than we need...so why are there still so many hungry and malnourished people? In this episode we'll investigate the real cause of world hunger, and assess whether capitalism has the tools to solve this massive problem.
    Can Capitalism Solve World Hunger? - Second Thought
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    Citations and Further Reading:
    The Elon Musk world hunger tweet saga
    www.abc10.com/article/news/ve...
    fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-m...
    829 million people/~10% of people
    www.actionagainsthunger.org/w...
    25,000 daily deaths www.theworldcounts.com/challe...
    3.1 million children die of malnutrition every year
    www.theguardian.com/global-de...
    World hunger is on the rise
    www.actionagainsthunger.org/w...
    Famines
    www.wfp.org/stories/hunger-ho...
    Food insecurity affects 38 million Americans
    www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-...
    Food insecurity affects 8% of American children
    www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/...
    We produce enough to feed 10 billion people
    doi.org/10.1080/10440046.2012...
    Our Changing Climate’s food waste video
    • Food Waste causes Clim...
    ⅓ of the food produced, 1.3 billion tons, gets wasted each year
    www.wfp.org/stories/5-facts-a... approximately%20 US%241%20 trillion
    Food waste along the supply chain
    www.foodengineeringmag.com/ar...
    34% of the food grown gets wasted at the farm
    www.sciencedirect.com/science...
    Farmers respond to price fluctuations
    jacobin.com/2017/03/food-prod...
    Farm waste during the pandemic
    www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/bu...
    “Ugly produce” companies aren’t helping
    www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...
    newrepublic.com/article/15259...
    Best before dates aren’t regulated/standardized
    www.vox.com/22559293/food-was...
    40 million Americans live in food deserts
    www.aecf.org/blog/exploring-a...
    Supermarkets stock 10x larger food products and plates have increased 36% in size
    www.meta-systems.eu/nickbrown/...
    Refrigerators have gotten 30% bigger and cost half as much
    appliance-standards.org/produ...
    The commodification of food
    jacobin.com/2017/03/food-prod...
    Structural adjustment programs
    www.globalissues.org/article/...
    Gambian fish story
    www.monde-diplomatique.fr/202...
    Food for beginners
    archive.org/details/FoodForBe...
    World hunger book (outdated statistics, but the analysis is still relevant)
    www.tni.org/files/download/ho...
    pubs.socialistreviewindex.org....
    Twelve myths about world hunger
    cf.linnbenton.edu/artcom/socia...
    Food justice is class war
    jacobin.com/2016/09/agricultu...
    Unequal exchange
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    www.tni.org/es/node/4597
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  • @jeffreymitchell5321
    @jeffreymitchell5321 ปีที่แล้ว +2711

    Anyone who has ever worked at a buffet can tell you about food waste. I've literally dumped full pans of edible food into the trash, simply because the buffet does not want liability if the food were donated and someone were to get sick and try and sue the buffet. Got to love America and Capitalism.

    • @carrieullrich5059
      @carrieullrich5059 ปีที่แล้ว +419

      In Colorado you can't sue if you get sick from donated food.
      However, corporations still use that myth as an excuse to not donate food.

    • @TechExploresNYC
      @TechExploresNYC ปีที่แล้ว +159

      I worked in buffets too and there's this customer who take a clam, only eat the tender outside and throw out the "guts", then there's another customer who only eat the guts and discard the "outside", I joked about it with my co-worker "maybe we can just put these two together so they split it up and eat the parts they liked"

    • @TechExploresNYC
      @TechExploresNYC ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@carrieullrich5059 That's part of American "sue happy culture" cultivated by personal injury lawyers.

    • @belluh-1huey102
      @belluh-1huey102 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Why can't you yourself take the food from the buffet and donate?

    • @maintainingBW
      @maintainingBW ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@belluh-1huey102 i feel like that could be theft but honestly not sure

  • @tsumetai3
    @tsumetai3 ปีที่แล้ว +850

    I worked as a delivery driver for a bread company for almost a year. I quit that job when my boss changed his stance suddenly on me donating my staled out bread to a local food bank. We had a lot of bread that was past the sell by date but still had weeks of life left in it. At the end of my work day I would just stop in to a food bank and give them all of that bread that was destined for a dumpster. The company suddenly changed its stance and told me staled out bread had to be thrown away. Only a week after this decision I was seeing the people in my community literally digging through our dumpsters to get the bread we were throwing into them. My boss gave me a callus response when I brought up this fact and I resigned on the spot. This system is collectively ripping the heart out of society and we're supposed to just sit here and pretend it's normal. Shit sucks.

    • @GoznerPeter
      @GoznerPeter ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Thank you for actually making a difference. Unlike the other 99% who are trying to act smart.

    • @Perseus5
      @Perseus5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Never forget how many lives you have helped. The difference between you and your previous boss is that you know how to be a man and do things for the greater good.

    • @Perseus5
      @Perseus5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@rabbitcreative maybe for you but not my business with how you see the world. I focus on balance. That’s what I was taught as a person and I wish more people were taught that way.

    • @harunsuaidi7349
      @harunsuaidi7349 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You're a hero and I'm proud of you. We need more people who follows their conscience.

    • @mikeboate208
      @mikeboate208 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dougpatterson7494 principles are nice , if you can afford them. the poor can't .

  • @frigginjerk
    @frigginjerk ปีที่แล้ว +893

    When you see something in society that is immoral or illogical and you wonder why it's like that, the first possible explanation that should come to mind is always "Because someone who has a lot of money wants it that way, so that he can get even more money."

    • @id10t98
      @id10t98 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      The irony of Elon Musk saying he would sell all his Tesla stock if anyone can come up with a plan to cure world hunger was lost on himself. I'm guessing it was brain damage from when he crashed his million dollar McLaren.

    • @MrKongatthegates
      @MrKongatthegates ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yeah, like we could house or at least shelter everyone easily if places werent privately owned. theres more than enough unused space

    • @flovv9357
      @flovv9357 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Greed

    • @fuck4317
      @fuck4317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biggest irony is that the words immorality and illogicality are coming out of a mouth of a leftoid right now. Projection, like ussual.

    • @JsJdv
      @JsJdv ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MrKongatthegates
      Lady: "Smoking won't affect my baby"
      The baby:

  • @PegasusBrill
    @PegasusBrill ปีที่แล้ว +2018

    It really is amazing how so many problems that aren't getting fixed all boil down to "There's no profit in it"

    • @briangruenewald7536
      @briangruenewald7536 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Amazing indeed :(

    • @Necroes
      @Necroes ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Because slavery is bad, and people don't work for free. If a company doesn't make money, they can't pay their workers.
      This was a literal example in the video; Farmers throw away food because they can't afford to hire people to harvest it.
      It's not a matter of profit margins, either. Farms require profit to function. Without enough money to buy more seeds and fertilizer, they can't grow more food next season.
      It's all well and good if we make sure we have enough food Now, but that doesn't mean anything if we expend too many resources on that problem to the exclusion of making sure we can have food next year.
      Top that off with the potential of Actual causes of famine, such as crop diseases or drought, and farmers need to make sure they have enough money not only to survive one bad year, but several in a row. If the money they need to cover future costs isn't available, then they can't pay for the farm and the entire farm stops producing food, period.

    • @Petch85
      @Petch85 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Well it is more like, there is no benefit for those who can fix the problems.

    • @versutus2699
      @versutus2699 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      The funny/sad part is that even from the purely profit based stance, the US government would actually save more money in the long run by investing to end child poverty in the US than to deal with the consequences of it

    • @denelson83
      @denelson83 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Like car dependency. It is way too profitable to keep North Americans driving cars instead of provide them with reliable public transit and walkable downtowns.

  • @rockfire1669
    @rockfire1669 ปีที่แล้ว +883

    In the literally sense, capitalism won’t solve world hunger simply because it won’t turn a profit.

    • @Rampala
      @Rampala ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What capitalism WILL do is pour bleach on expired food in a dumpster to keep poor people from eating it. 😐

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% correct. There is no profit in peace and stability. Capitalism proves over and over how it is socially, economically and environmentally unsustainable.

    • @gapsule2326
      @gapsule2326 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Even when it does turn a profit its not enough. Capitalists want more than everything.

    • @fuck4317
      @fuck4317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simply the leftoid"s only capability is to project 100% of the time.

    • @Saviliana
      @Saviliana ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It isn't about profit, it is about market, if there is no hungry people, then there would not be a market for additional food.

  • @TheMrJTRyder
    @TheMrJTRyder ปีที่แล้ว +248

    In 2010 (I think), I wrote an article about the high cost of being poor. One of the sections centered on the food desert I lived in. There was one large chain grocery store and I noticed that the prices there were higher than the same supermarket in wealthier neighborhoods. I interviewed the chain's operations manager and at first he said it was due to the store being in a high crime area and their insurance being higher. I had already looked into this prior to the interview and knew this was BS because they had a blanket policy covering theft in transit, by staff and from shoplifting baked into the policy. After a few more questions, I was astounded when he told the truth. He said it was because there were no competitor's stores in the area, so there was no incentive to have lower prices.

    • @bobthegamingtaco6073
      @bobthegamingtaco6073 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I know this is a little late, but would you happen to be able to share the article? It sounds like exactly the kind of thing I need to show some people

    • @ToyTiger666
      @ToyTiger666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, I am also interested in the article.

    • @TheMrJTRyder
      @TheMrJTRyder ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@bobthegamingtaco6073 I've looked for the article online. Sadly, most of the newspapers I wrote for are no longer in business. My ego is trying to tell me it has nothing to do with my articles. I really need to create a website for all the articles, full interviews and notes.

    • @TheMrJTRyder
      @TheMrJTRyder ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@youtubesucks1499 fully understand, but the point was that the prices were cheaper in more upscale areas because there was competition and that they initially tried to use the excuse of the prices being higher in lower income neighborhoods because of theft.

    • @ronaldom2239
      @ronaldom2239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And therefore… Government should encourage competition in all sectors, excessive regulations hurt the smaller players who are trying to bring down cost through innovation not large established firms with enough room to regulation costs

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It's funny how much capitalism encourages the notion "if I can't profit from it, you can't get it."

    • @brojakmate9872
      @brojakmate9872 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow another communist lover

  • @TheSpazzDragon
    @TheSpazzDragon ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I was literally just last night having an argument with my Roommate about food and budgeting because it gotten ridiculously expensive recently. This video just helped me win that argument. Also now he is gonna watch more of these videos. So that is good.

    • @shealupkes
      @shealupkes ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've had experiments with myself where I put together meals solely with what was in the pantry and fridge, money and space saving and surprisingly fun

    • @dakotamabry1645
      @dakotamabry1645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shealupkes I do that when I don't have enough to buy groceries, and if we had left overs it got made into a whole other meal.. of course I don't buy alot of processed foods and canned goods are their as back stock ..

  • @repugnant__6379
    @repugnant__6379 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    I work at Trader Joe's, we donate all of our food spoils to homeless shelters and local farmers here in Nebraska, as a manager I have myself driven too the locations where we donate, (including South Dakota to the Sioux/Lakota people and rural Iowa) to make sure it gets eaten and more often than not it does. All produce/meat/dairy goes into some kind of food to feed children, dogs, blind men and women etc. I wouldn't feel good about working here if that wasn't in place however I know it's such a huge issue that we can't fix everything but I feel like we at least make a small difference.

    • @Rowosehip
      @Rowosehip ปีที่แล้ว +68

      You guys are heros. I wish everybody in the world had the same mindset...

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I hope this is a national policy at all Trader Joe's

    • @glennfunderburk7420
      @glennfunderburk7420 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I guess I’ll have to start shopping at Trader Joe’s!

    • @AmelieZh
      @AmelieZh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      good for you guys!!

    • @creestee08
      @creestee08 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Let's hope everyone would eventually have that mindset. Not like some people here.

  • @ampersand2001
    @ampersand2001 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Affordable housing, food, and health care should all be human rights.

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only should they be human rights, they ARE human rights. UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights says so. Funny how the major rich countries of the world like USA and the UK, who more than have enough resources to provide this to all the people, don't do it, eh? Almost like they are getting away with murder because they can and because the majority of the population don't know that they CAN demand these programs are funded by the governments in an instant. US and UK will never run out of money at the federal level, they do not need taxpayer money to cover the costs and it will not be burdened on future generations. Those are big, huge lies coming out of the criminal politicians of the 70s like Thatcher and Reagan. Federal government spends first, taxes second. Shouldn't ever American know this? How does it make any sense that the US can spend over 700 BILLION on the military every damn year and yet not be able to afford Universal Healthcare and Basic Income for all the citizens? It doesn't make sense and it's because they CAN afford it, they just keep confusing the public so they don't know it and won't demand it.
      Well, the gig is up and more people are learning this and the ruling elites should be shaking in their boots. Eating the rich is spreading in popularity.

    • @Vesperad0
      @Vesperad0 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      And that is not debatable, no matter what excuses people come up with. Water and basic human rights as well, though I'm sure you meant those.

    • @humanwithaplaylist
      @humanwithaplaylist ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@saagisharon8595 no one chooses poverty. That's literally a capitalist myth

    • @turgonnaish
      @turgonnaish ปีที่แล้ว

      Until the resources are done then who decides who gets all those things? The government? They can't even agree on how to spend our money!

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@turgonnaish The availability of actual resources left to use is a problem and one that is literally the defining factor of any functioning economy or species - how carefully and intelligently we manage those resources. We can clearly see that capitalism, by it's structure and incentives for profit maximization, competitive self-interest and infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is unsustainable and unjust. We are going to need a better system if we hope to have a sustainable future.
      In the current situation, because the government is bought and owned by the ruling elite class, the government very much can agree on how to spend our money, it spends it based on the needs and interests of the oligarchy. That was proven by a Princeton study some years ago that showed that the needs of the majority of Americans had zero impact on which laws got passed and only laws that aligned with the interests of the donor corporate class were enacted.
      What does this mean? It means if you want an actual democracy, you can't have a economic system that puts so much wealth in the hands of so few so that they can have such a unjust influence on government policy.
      Don't trust a establishment politician as far as you can throw them, demonstrated that you can not vote for them and demand something for your vote, when the time comes. Those demands? Should align with basic human rights for all. Because the federal government can 100% afford housing for all, a livable wage, universal healthcare and universal education for all ages and they will not run out of money, it will not have to raise your taxes (except on the super rich billionaire class, they should) and it will not burden future generations. The current ruling class is counting on people not knowing what the government can and should do for the needs of the people.

  • @michaelsoltesz3779
    @michaelsoltesz3779 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    I am disappointed to hear the “ugly produce” companies are a sham.
    I remember having that idea and was happy to see it implemented by someone. I guess i should have realized it was BS.
    Anyway, another amazing video.

    • @robertdicke7249
      @robertdicke7249 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Buying food waste isn’t going to help other people get affordable access to food anyway. Think about it, how it you buying an ugly eggplant that would have rotted gonna feed a person going hungry? It makes as much sense as finishing your vegetables so kids in Africa don’t starve.

    • @markzajac9993
      @markzajac9993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really don't think its a sham. I think if there's a demand, there's an entrepreneur willing to fill it and this happens to be one of them. If homeless shelters are competing for these "discarded food items", then perhaps we can support these orgs by helping them buy it outright.

    • @cosmefulanito5052
      @cosmefulanito5052 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@markzajac9993it's a sham. There's no demand for ugly produce. People that buy think they're helping combat world hunger.

    • @CerealianJay17
      @CerealianJay17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or stop trying to make capital and get people the food 💀

  • @commentor3485
    @commentor3485 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Never underestimate how low business people can go.

  • @filipwolffs
    @filipwolffs ปีที่แล้ว +676

    "In theory, everyone wants to solve world hunger."
    The current economical philosophy of most of the developed world is that profit is the highest priority, and that the best way to create profit is to cut costs. One of the greatest expenses of any company is the salaries and wages of the employees. To reduce these expenses many of the richest and most influential individuals and organizations in the world want to apply pressure on the working class so they'll accept jobs with terrible working conditions and for abysmal pay.
    Of course, Second Thought already knows this, but it has to be repeated at every opportunity: not everyone wants to solve world hunger. The elite desire humanitarian crises because they believe it's beneficial for their bottom line if the majority of the population is desperate. Suffering has been made a cornerstone of the economical system. Empathy and altruism are being denounced as childish, fake, and delusional because these virtues would ruin their business models.

    • @SimGunther
      @SimGunther ปีที่แล้ว +58

      And not everyone wants World Peace. There's too much business lost for these rich folks if we actually obtain peace, plain and simply.

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Another way to increase profits is to create a monopoly. If you're the only supplier of a life saving necessity, like EpiPens, you can raise the price to the ceiling. Nothing compares to maximizing profit off the medically desperate. (This only works in America, land of the free... LoL)

    • @whythelongface64
      @whythelongface64 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Smell the class contradiction in the rotting wealth of our lands. Smell it well brothers and sisters, and we shall know, What is to be done?
      The speculators or the working hands?

    • @danvocals123
      @danvocals123 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We will keep repeating, we must

    • @xCobraCommanderx
      @xCobraCommanderx ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@whythelongface64 exactly.
      All these comments on this video and not once have I seen someone say
      “Lenin and a gun can fix world hunger”
      It’s wild.

  • @BreakEm22
    @BreakEm22 ปีที่แล้ว +695

    I think it's important to highlight a distinction between caloric and nutritional needs, so many people are going to distill "solving hunger" through just giving people more calories which is nice and all but it does nothing but make people developmentally stunted if all those calories are empty in needed macros/micros.

    • @Marcus-kz7rw
      @Marcus-kz7rw ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very important to not forget this 💯

    • @logangagnepain7154
      @logangagnepain7154 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Exactly correct!
      That being said, its impossible to ignore that we arrive nearly at the same conclusion of lack of capitalist incentive. Feeding people good food is secondary to making a profit

    • @aleph6149
      @aleph6149 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That one it's also, to perhaps a big degree, related to how the market works: Calories are cheaper than nutrition. As an example: where I live, everyone that's poor will end eating polenta and other flour derivates, or maybe rice, because these are all cheap whereas a more balanced diet would be more expensive. One could blame some of this on poor education, but charities will *also* bank on this food because it's cheaper and thus it can be bought in quantity to feed more people.
      The food that's recognized as "best" will often be more expensive, and that may even be unrelated to production costs: Like, where I live bread made with browner flour used to be the poor man's bread 'til it was popularized that the more refined white flour was even less healthy, and then became more expensive for no other reason. That's the magic of the market :)

    • @xCobraCommanderx
      @xCobraCommanderx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aleph6149 the magic of the market is some rich ahole who never did any labor owns the food. We put that ahole and his friends up against The Wall, and take his company by force. Problem solved.

    • @logangagnepain7154
      @logangagnepain7154 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@aleph6149 the irony is that better, more nutricious foods have the potential to be cheaper but because we have deeply rooted manufacturing process to the production of junk food.... we get more junk food at cost.
      If we embraced similar measures with healthy food, we could have an industrialized health food market which would be insultingly cheap!

  • @adamrosendahl8090
    @adamrosendahl8090 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Everytime I'm reminded of this horrific truth it doesn't just make me sad but angry. What makes me sad is how helpless we are to do anything.

    • @jamfucked
      @jamfucked ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't be helpless brother, we should do our best to help our hungry fellows, even if our best is just having hope🙏

    • @misterslime1245
      @misterslime1245 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      revolution

    • @bobthegamingtaco6073
      @bobthegamingtaco6073 ปีที่แล้ว

      *i* am helpless.
      *we* are not.
      We talk about the 1% like it's a couple dozen people screwing us over, but it's thousands. So we need hundreds of thousands to drown them out. It took a big group of people to get us into this mess, it's gonna take a bigger group to get us out

    • @agps4418
      @agps4418 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      well we can start by sharing this channel to our communities. different minds, different inspirations

    • @odoimia
      @odoimia ปีที่แล้ว +11

      you are not helpless our corporate overlords just want you to think that.

  • @kellymillermusic7305
    @kellymillermusic7305 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If you've never been food insecure, you have no idea. It's the absolute worst. I used to eat the trash of the grocery stores when I was a kid because we couldn't afford it, and had periods in my life when I worked in a restaurant but could only afford one potato a day. Other poorer countries have subsidized grocery stores and even subsidized restaurants. The US could easily do something similar, just have them as an option, but nationalization is a scary word. People die of hunger because of a mf word!

  • @gavinmiller2258
    @gavinmiller2258 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    These videos always make me cry. We're doing it so wrong.

    • @TESkyrimizer
      @TESkyrimizer ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We have turned Eden into a Walmart 🙁

    • @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
      @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TESkyrimizer George Carlin once said, "Only a bunch of half wits could turn this beautiful country into what it is today....... A shopping mall."

    • @ohshiditsgriff2793
      @ohshiditsgriff2793 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle i get the point, but... there's literally no point in America's history where everyone living here was healthy, happy, and free. It was never a "beautiful country".

    • @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
      @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ohshiditsgriff2793 He's talking about natural geographic American land. Are you just going to tell me the mountains are not beautiful?

    • @ohshiditsgriff2793
      @ohshiditsgriff2793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ahhh i see. Yeah, if it's physical beauty, i can agree. I thought you meant like... ideological beauty.

  • @jovicamateric7756
    @jovicamateric7756 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Here in Serbia my neighbor works at a farm and tells me that there are two classifications for food: export food and waste food. The difference in the quality of the food is like night and day. The export food is destined for western Europe and the waste food is the average diet here.

    • @nocturnal6876
      @nocturnal6876 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like that I can get an apple for $0.20 but this is usually the "undesired batch" as the "good batch" is shipped to western markets

    • @Vesperad0
      @Vesperad0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@saagisharon8595 but it's food, why else would some companies capitalize on selling "ugly food" that could've been given out for free via food banks? Why do aesthetics matter? It feeds people

  • @NutellaCrepe
    @NutellaCrepe ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Recently had a debate with a supporter of capitalism, and when I brought up the simple fact that the world has more than enough food and resources for everyone, he dismisses it as pointing out the obvious and that social darwinism is necessary. This is what we’re fighting against, people who wish to artificially perpetuate suffering of the poor so they can have more than most. In their words, they want to create losers just so they can be the winners in the system.

    • @licansen3331
      @licansen3331 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      rookie mistake should have left when He decided to speak. there's no value in his sentence just full of bla bla bla The important lesson here is that you got the correct idea keep it to yourself

    • @NutellaCrepe
      @NutellaCrepe ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@licansen3331 Keeping the correct idea to myself would play into their hands. Ultimately it's all of our responsibilities to spread the correct takes and to at least be as loud as the ones with bad takes. Capitalists seek to influence the general public to accept the brutality they create.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's almost always these people that espouse social darwinism who would fall victim to it themselves.

    • @israilsalam2430
      @israilsalam2430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just show me where Socialism solved those too? And how do you think about why nearly all the Socialist countries had abandoned Socialism?

    • @solankijimmy
      @solankijimmy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@israilsalam2430 where have we been discussing socialism? We are discussing capitalism!

  • @UTArch1
    @UTArch1 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    How Krispy Kreme perfectly defines American corporate culture: For National Donut Day I went to get a "free" doughnut at Krispy Kreme. The line was very long and the drive through was backed up onto the freeway service road. For anyone who has been to a Krispy Kreme, you know that their production line is automated using a long mechanical conveyor belt system. I had never focused on what happens at the end of the conveyor belt, but I saw that those doughnuts not deemed Krispy Kreme “perfect” are allowed to pass to the end of the conveyor where they are unceremoniously dumped into a trash can! We are talking about fresh, warm Krispy Kreme doughnuts which just aren't cosmetically perfect. I was shocked, so I asked the person at the cash register what was done with these "rejects" - thinking that they were (or would be) donated to a homeless shelter or some other worthy charity. She said: "they get thrown away". Another employee (presumably a manager) quickly added that employees could have all they want from the trash. And from the volume of rejects I saw while I was in line, we are talking about a LOT of doughnuts going to waste. Apparently we are so rich as a society that we can afford to throw out, not just "edible" food but, freshly baked warm, delicious food. The idea of fresh, warm doughnuts going straight into the garbage REALLY bothers me. As a consumer, it occurred to me that it would make sense for Krispy Kreme to sell the “imperfect” doughnuts at a discount so that they would not just go to waste. But it may just be that the corporation does not want to “rob sales” of their cosmetically perfect full price doughnuts by selling an equivalent discounted product side-by-side.

    • @questworldmatrix
      @questworldmatrix ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They should do a buy 6 pieces, and get a "trash" donut or two for free. You can push out the less corporately desirable ones and even entice more sales of the regular.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If they sell the imperfect donuts at a discount, then every discount donut sold is potentially a full-price donut not sold.

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Part of it is probably due to brand image, discount donuts would devalue the normal product. Its not like they cost any more or less to make just because they came out different.

    • @defaultworkouts
      @defaultworkouts ปีที่แล้ว +4

      cannibalization is the term in capitalism. if you sell the rejects, no one will pay full price for the normals so your profit drops as well as the product is now expected to retail at a lower price in consumer's minds

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@defaultworkouts I think of it as the budget sandwich problem. If your store is selling cheap sandwiches for £1.50, and a 'luxury' brand sandwich for £3.50... well, better make sure the cheap ones are a bit crap, otherwise no-one will buy the luxury ones. Just... go easy on the filling.

  • @WesternCommie
    @WesternCommie ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I love the video. It reminds me of a famous quote from "the grapes of wrath" which starts with, "The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all." Businesses have been destroying food for profit for more than a century now.. An unknown amount of people have died so a few people can make a huge amount of profit.. It will rot before people get it for free.

    • @darkpixel1128
      @darkpixel1128 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      IT always depresses me to see how much shit just never changes, like even the diggers were talking about this shit 200 years ago and people keep repeating it because it's still true.

    • @darkpixel1128
      @darkpixel1128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robdeskrd he cares not from where the blood flows, only that it does!
      (without context this must be very confusing, so I won't give any)

    • @thethirdgeneration1738
      @thethirdgeneration1738 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For the unquenchable, endless, in extinguishable, relentless thirst for profits by Capitalism which never sleeps taking the very life force from plants, animals, the earth, men and their very souls……. Only to leave ashes behind 😣

    • @blargithonify
      @blargithonify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s why rage against the machine did the song, the ghost of Tom joad

    • @brojakmate9872
      @brojakmate9872 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blame their parents for giving birth to them. Life is unfair. SUCK IT UP

  • @Asrahn
    @Asrahn ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The overconsumption VS commercials point really highlights how bizarre this system is. It's up to you, the individual, to resist the massive psyop that is commercials that you're constantly being barraged with, and if you fail to temper the impulse of just how much you acquire of what you've ceaselessly been told to buy, the very same people who benefits from your purchases will scold you for it.
    Simultaneously, if you don't actually buy these things, or if just enough people reduce their consumption, the economy grinds to a halt, and you get told that you're a bad person for not buying these people's products so that the wheels of the economy can get greased as they should. At no point in this can you acquire a position of true agency, never mind "win", and at no point is the spotlight directed towards the people actually in charge of this planet-destroying hamster wheel either. Truly dystopian.

  • @nrrork
    @nrrork ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Yeah, 2020 was a hell of a time for me to finally get around to reading The Grapes of Wrath.
    We read it as a class in high school, but I didn't get it back then. I was an American teenager in 1999, this story and its themes were off my radar.
    But when I read it two years ago, it could've just been published that year.
    This video just reminds me so much of what was in that book. Especially when they're destroying the fruit crops. And dousing them with kerosene and torching them so no starving Okies could.... remain... alive...

    • @rickb3650
      @rickb3650 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Small correction: You were an American teenager that had been denied an education for the previous 10+ years.
      There is a book published in 1995 titled Lies My Teacher told Me that lays out the program we were subjected to. There was nothing accidental or random about it.
      Glad you taught yourself how to think, not many do.

    • @pudanielson1
      @pudanielson1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      John Steinbeck even 100 years ago, had a way with words and in many ways we are living through those times again

    • @johnwalker1058
      @johnwalker1058 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never had to read Grapes of Wrath in school, and given what it's apparently about and how people are talking about it, and how schools are mainly used by government to condition people not to question how the status quo works, I can see why.

    • @rickb3650
      @rickb3650 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@johnwalker1058 You should read it for exactly those reasons. The image of America we all have was never more than a hope.
      Ignore what they say, watch what they do.

    • @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
      @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rickb3650 I know a lie I found out myself, that I was told.
      "The U.S. is a meritocracy."

  • @versutus2699
    @versutus2699 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I've personally found that these images intentional wasting by companies of literal tons of food and water can radicalize people against capitalism (even if they think nefarious things like poor and homeless people deserve to be where they are)

    • @JoeBauers8
      @JoeBauers8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      For the most part, just about every serious world problem is either caused by or worsened by capitalism. It’s a really horrible system.

    • @avokado1386
      @avokado1386 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redrkstone you are literally commenting under a video that displays the horrors of capitalism, just how delusional are you? even when faced with facts?

    • @KingCloudsCape
      @KingCloudsCape ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@redrkstone did you not watch the video

    • @KingCloudsCape
      @KingCloudsCape ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@redrkstone for the record I want you to know that china says the same thing: "look what amazing things we have under communism, and its all thanks to that"

    • @KingCloudsCape
      @KingCloudsCape ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redrkstone right so we can agree that any "pure" system is bad and that every system is ripe for exploitation. In the USA the issue is our politicians and much of the populace worship capitalism and keep trying to reduce our economic system to a "more pure" form of capitalism.
      This is idiotic because it incentivizes bad behavior. Any person can point out the flaws in communism someplace like venezuela but they absolutely struggle to confront the flaws in capitalism going on in their own backyard. That's brainwashing; that was my point in bringing up China.

  • @adamspencer3702
    @adamspencer3702 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The whole food waste problem is a peak example on why you should plan your economy. Minimize waste, run things as sustainably as possible, and have a effective distribution network to ensure food gets where it's needed as determined by a planning department using computers to determine need/demand. There, that's how you solve hunger in a country.

    • @person-yu8cu
      @person-yu8cu ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, and only a marxist revolution can bring such a central planning system, because the capitalists who own the economy and state wouldn't profit from such a system.

    • @traubengott9783
      @traubengott9783 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well ehm that didnt work in every non capitalist country ever.

    • @goonerbear8659
      @goonerbear8659 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And instead, we have an economy planned about as well as the human body was - it adapts as it needs to and hangs on to inefficiencies and harmful features long after their usefulness/supposed usefulness. Except here, the economy can be changed. The few people with lots of money just don't want to.

  • @elias6425
    @elias6425 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    it has built a new sort of instinct within my body to instantly click on a second thought video as soon as it is released, just because i'm afraid it is restricted again and i can't watch it if i wait

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's a good feeling to have, actually, to know you are on the path of truth that you can sense the ruling elites don't want to you to know. It's inspiring and uplifting to know facts about the world that can help you and society turn things around if we unite together among common values and causes.

    • @zombieminecraft4213
      @zombieminecraft4213 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One which I have not seen was the police video and the one talking about CIA being a certain type of organisation.

  • @calebbliss8626
    @calebbliss8626 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I work at a restaurant and it honestly hurts me how much food we waste simply because we have to always have enough food ready to very quickly get food to the customers so we can have maximum profits.

  • @cebbi1313
    @cebbi1313 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I worked in a supermarket that had big posters next to the bread aisle giving customers advice on avoiding food waste. "Freeze your bread, you can toast it straight from the freezer. Together, we can prevent food waste." At the end of each day, we'd collect all the unsold bread in huge bin bags and pile them up in front of that poster.

  • @immaheadout4777
    @immaheadout4777 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    Actually we have enough food to feed everyone but the distribution of that food is so uneven that many people are starving because of inequality not lack of supply.

    • @jonathanjuarez5544
      @jonathanjuarez5544 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @Doublethink
      You’d think the elite would realize that and make some concessions to save their own skin, it seems as if greed overrides their sense of rationality.

    • @notorioustori
      @notorioustori ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Not only is distribution off but so is consumption. The amount of food waste from Disney World, alone, could help a couple of small countries.
      How farmers dumped so much product during the pandemic because they couldn't sell it. Plus laws that say we can't give give away "wasted" (excess) food from restaurants because of litigious fears.
      Also, we overproduce, mostly for US consumers who require seasonal fruits & veggies be available for us year round.
      Lol, as I'm typing this, I see the video is making these points immediately after 😅 oops.

    • @i_shoot_stuff
      @i_shoot_stuff ปีที่แล้ว +32

      when you comment before watching the video

    • @kyosefgofa
      @kyosefgofa ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering how much calories (horse) or fuel it takes to transport goods, there will always be problems with distribution.

    • @hershys
      @hershys ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That is literally what he says 2 minutes into the video.

  • @niklasmolen4753
    @niklasmolen4753 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    In Sweden, leftover food from shops, schools, restaurants and households is collected and turned into biogas that powers buses in public transport. Even if it is lost as food, it will be useful.

    • @BlackoutGootraxian
      @BlackoutGootraxian ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wish more countries did that, it would both lower waste and fuel prices, win-win

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackoutGootraxian not really, because corporate lobbyists and conservative species traitor politicians in the EU parliamemt has made sure to force member countries to use tax laws to make every fuel cost roughly the same/kW

    • @BlackoutGootraxian
      @BlackoutGootraxian ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonsOfLorgar Bruh, this is why we cant have nice things

    • @nolan4339
      @nolan4339 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      But imagine if that biogas sector got powerful enough to implement public policy to control agriculture lands and divert all but the most pristine of food products to feed their biogas digesters to make their 'more-valuable' gas and fertilizer products. Then all citizens would essentially be forced to pay the premium prices to access food or spiral into starvation.
      Even the definition of what constitutes as waste can be altered through public policy, so be wary.

    • @iche9373
      @iche9373 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be more useful if your buses are charged by solar energy while you transform that food into edible pellets to donate.

  • @thevictor180
    @thevictor180 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Hey JT, I just finished watching your entire deprogramming series. Keep up the good work!

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Thanks so much! Glad you liked it

  • @DPowered2
    @DPowered2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rich people: Oh yeah well if you can explain in detail how it will work then I'll do it
    People: explains in detail
    Rich people: I'll pretend I didn't see that

    • @meltryllis6239
      @meltryllis6239 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      god, that (and Elon Musk as a whole person, honestly) was super infuriating. If you aren't gonna uphold your end of a deal/bet, don't even propose it in the first place!

  • @aerialstealth8666
    @aerialstealth8666 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Before I watch the video I'm guessing they totally can but won't because it's not profitable to do the right thing

    • @mao_zhu_xi
      @mao_zhu_xi ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So thereby making it impossible

    • @aerialstealth8666
      @aerialstealth8666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mao_zhu_xi Yes exactly

    • @jonathanjuarez5544
      @jonathanjuarez5544 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hence why hunger will always be an issue as long as there is a profit motive.

    • @flippodynamics3635
      @flippodynamics3635 ปีที่แล้ว

      So how did China get people put of poverty

    • @walterpost9073
      @walterpost9073 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flippodynamics3635 Slave and child Labour?

  • @RockitFX1
    @RockitFX1 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    For a long time I have held the opinion that agriculture should be socialized. EVERYONE needs to eat, so it seems silly to leave food production up to a few wealthy corporations.

    • @xCobraCommanderx
      @xCobraCommanderx ปีที่แล้ว

      This.
      Joseph Stalin ended Holodomor with Collectivization and Dekulakization. Vietnam, China, Cuba,,,,every communist nation followed suit and also ended their hunger problems.
      The solution to hunger is very easy: We purge the landlords and free market leeches, take their land, and use it for the greater good.

    • @RockitFX1
      @RockitFX1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jasperzanovich2504 yeah that's pretty ridiculous.

    • @ThePeterDislikeShow
      @ThePeterDislikeShow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Soon you'll need to pay for the air you breathe too. Oh wait, in 2020 they did require us to buy this device to put on to breathe.

    • @johnwalker1058
      @johnwalker1058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Anything essential for life should be as well, since otherwise, corporations running those things essentially get to decide who lives and who dies.

  • @heronimousbrapson863
    @heronimousbrapson863 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the 1930's, during the great depression, my grandfather described an incident which happened in the city where he was manager of the local city owned coal gas plant. Another city department ordered coal tar to be delivered. What had happened was there was a supply of potatoes which couldn't sell as people were too poor to buy them. The potatoes were dumped in the local dump as a consequence. When the city found that people were going through the dump to gather the potatoes, the department in charge of the dump ordered coal tar from the gas plant to dump on the potatoes, thus making them inedible.

  • @NicolasVycasNery
    @NicolasVycasNery ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The second part of the video about the issue outside of the US is totally true.
    I live in one of the biggest food produces in the world, Brazil, but the population her is staving because all food is a commodity and private foreging company own mostly of the land, near all the good quality goods are exported, mainly the EU, US and China.
    A solution is being proposed for nearly 70 yeas is to give back the land for the local small produces, but since its all “private” this will nave be done.
    Also it no cited in the video but with the globalization, but the native crops were all substituted with foreigner ones and toes a harder d to grown in a place that were not evolved to and n more healthy for human consumption.

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The US, China and most countries in the EU have rich histories of exploiting other countries.

  • @jeffs4483
    @jeffs4483 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is why central planning is needed. Mandate that food producers limit waste so it can be properly distributed.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would make things worse mayve you can make a law forbidding good waste but central planning how will that even work

  • @pedrobrunodeandrade
    @pedrobrunodeandrade ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The zucchini is perfect as it is!
    In all seriousness, everything a person needs, from the basic essentials to culture and hobbies, shouldn't be treated as a product and exchanged for profit. In a better world, we would live for happiness, self-improvement and each other.
    "A gente não quer só comida, a gente quer comida, diversão e arte!"

  • @KM-yw3ft
    @KM-yw3ft ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I really hate that "rule" that you should leave a bit of food on your plate, so people know you are not in need/poor. I don't have the rule to clean my plate because I didn't have enough to eat. I clear my plate and waste almost no food because I think about how much effort and time it took to grow the food.

    • @J3unG
      @J3unG ปีที่แล้ว

      Great, love. You get a gold star for your personal experience in combating hunger and starvation. You've made it about yourself. Why not go out and get involved politically in this crisis. Write your politicians to create legislation that would treat the farmers fairly so that they can deliver foodstuffs to market without the pressure of commodification. Think beyond yourself you twat. Maybe you can leave this planet in better shape than what you are taking up now.

    • @adeifeoluwajolaosho3586
      @adeifeoluwajolaosho3586 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      SAME! I went to a private school and everyone will give me weird looks anytime I finish my food with nothing on the plate. Everyone still does so even at university.

    • @dayoki8091
      @dayoki8091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that exists? in our family my mother used to schold me because i would leave bits of rice on the plate.

    • @defaultworkouts
      @defaultworkouts ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who cares about other people when you eat? they pay your bills?

    • @The_Bird_Bird_Harder
      @The_Bird_Bird_Harder ปีที่แล้ว

      Where at? It sounds. So stupid.

  • @DannyElfmanImpersonator
    @DannyElfmanImpersonator ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I worked at Target for 2 weeks (it was terrible) and I was in the general merchandise section, which means I put out produce and frozen foods. Part of my job every morning was to go through all of the fruits, meats and vegetables to see what ones expired. Even if the food was perfectly fine and safe to eat, we got rid of it. They told me to keep/put out what we would eat, but I would consistently have to throw out perfectly good foods because they weren’t pretty enough or a day expired.

    • @brennanmason1973
      @brennanmason1973 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly, we have a food abundance problem in the capitalist world not a food scarcity problem.

  • @sassyviking6003
    @sassyviking6003 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Before even watching I'm going to say that since capitalism literally mandates a certain percentage go without food by setting prices that maximize profit, I'm going to go with no. It cannot solve world hunger because if the struggle against world hunger capitalism is on the side of hunger.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Before watching I'm going to say: I don't think capitalism is the problem, it's a good engine for a society, however it's to much capitalism that's really bad.
      When it seeps into everything is when it's gets really bad. Like money in politics in the US.
      I think social programs/regulations by the government will always be needed to fill in the holes capitalism can't fix and to keep capitalism in check. For example to prevent the worst damage from monopolies. Or break them up, etc.

    • @Ann-mj4xn
      @Ann-mj4xn ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@autohmae so you are advocating for the food industry to be nationalized into a worldwide non profit organization? Just curious

    • @nicksonnek7641
      @nicksonnek7641 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@autohmae Capitalism is driven by Profits not by providing human needs. No matter how much you regulate capitalism it will always be Profits driven. All the benefits capitalism has to offer are achievable without it

    • @Abyzz_Knight
      @Abyzz_Knight ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@autohmae the problem is that Capitalism inevitably makes it's way into politics which then gives it the ability to influence laws to benefit profits to the detriment of working class people.

    • @Abyzz_Knight
      @Abyzz_Knight ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@autohmae thinking about it now Nick's point is better. Various things that benefits people are simply not done or actively avoided because it's not profitable or it hurts profits.
      Like how Second Thought brought up in the video that farmers are literally incentivized to just let a lot of the food they produce rot because more food equals less value for that food and the cost to profit ratio of actualy gathering and selling all that food is likely not worth it.
      Capitalism will always prioritize profits over what's most beneficial to us.

  • @cactus_vixen7093
    @cactus_vixen7093 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think a really important note about proximity to food helping with waste (while consumer waste obv isn't the main issue) is that if you live within walking distance to a store, you can feasibility go there every day, or every few days, only purchasing what you might need for a few meals. Which means you can more easily use all the food you buy, but also make healthier decisions, no need to stalk up on frozen and preserved food, if you can buy fresh healthy food easily every day as you need it

  • @Stephanpar23
    @Stephanpar23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We only consume about 40% of the food we produce while the rest rots in landfills guarded with razor wire, armed guards and chain link fences.
    In fact, we defend waste way more than people. You're more likely to get police response if you said someone was "stealing" out of a corporate trash can than if you were beating someone up.

  • @guyblack9729
    @guyblack9729 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just a note, but the idea that a business could be sued if someone gets sick from food the business donated in good faith isn't even a reasonable concern. In the US, the Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Act of 1996 protects against that exact situation. Even without the law, food can be donated anonymously.

    • @jessh4016
      @jessh4016 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your statement is correct. The Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act of 1996 is a federal law in the United States that protects businesses and organizations from civil and criminal liability for donating food that is past its labeled date or appears to be of lower quality, as long as the food was donated in good faith. The law was enacted to encourage the donation of food to nonprofit organizations and reduce food waste.
      Under the law, donors of food are protected from liability, provided that the food is donated in good faith and the donor was not grossly negligent. The law applies to all food donations, whether they are made to individuals, nonprofit organizations, or government agencies.
      Therefore, businesses and organizations that donate food in good faith are generally protected from legal action in the event that someone gets sick from consuming the donated food. Moreover, the law encourages food donations by removing legal barriers and liability concerns that might otherwise discourage donations.
      Additionally, as you noted, in many cases, food can be donated anonymously, providing an additional level of protection for businesses and organizations that want to donate but are concerned about potential legal liability.

  • @wedontownthishouse2974
    @wedontownthishouse2974 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The perfect capitalist utopia
    ✨Where the police care more about zucchini than you ✨

    • @mas9758
      @mas9758 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love my freedom under capitalism. Freedom to own slaves and freedom for other to own me as a slave.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mas9758 it would be the other wys inder socialism

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I remember attending Brown College (MN), a radio program run by Conservatives for Conservatives. I was the only leftie. My classmates, of course, agreed we do not produce enough food. I chimed in with the 10B estimate. Theys said, "See! Not enough!" I then said the global population is 6.5B. They reported me for breaking my Code of Conduct clause. Never attend there, folks.

    • @danilvanlaethem9463
      @danilvanlaethem9463 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there even 'leftist '' colleges?

    • @user-sz8jp7tv1m
      @user-sz8jp7tv1m ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is clearly not a pro-liberal channel in case you didn’t notice… leftism is very different from liberalism

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-sz8jp7tv1m That was not the point I was making. And liberal is on the left side of the political spectrum regardless of this channel's spin. Take a political science class.

    • @danilvanlaethem9463
      @danilvanlaethem9463 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@DCMarvelMultiverse liberal is leftish for American standards, here in Europe they learned us liberalism is on the right side of the spectrum.
      But in general liberalism is always on the right side.

    • @danilvanlaethem9463
      @danilvanlaethem9463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-sz8jp7tv1m although leftism is a generalisation, you're right.

  • @wrestler375
    @wrestler375 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As someone who used to work at a factory making frozen appetizers is was astounding how much edible food we were wasting. It was what really pushed me deep into Marxist thinking.

  • @alexanderveritas
    @alexanderveritas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    American Supermarkets _adding bleach_ into the dumpsters before _locking them and calling the police to guard them_ has to be the textbook definition of _overkill._
    I for one never heard of a single case of food of bleaching before moving to the *US.*
    In fact, I wasn’t even aware it is a thing, but apparently it is!

  • @nilajbanerjee8982
    @nilajbanerjee8982 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This is a classic case of 'The system is not corrupted Its working just as intended'.Accumualtion of wealth at any cost by the rich.And this same event is occuring at every country on the planet in different forms.

    • @evilds3261
      @evilds3261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But why do they want more money? Once they have all the money in the world, nobody would be buying anything or working and the global population would decrease and babies would be too expensive to even keep alive. These guys are essentially cutting their legs off and will then be surprised when they are bleeding to death. Why do those in power mistreat and neglect the very resources that enable them to stay in power? An empire without peasants would starve. Those at the bottom are essential to society and yet it mistreats them for no reason. Is abuse a result of fear? Why do people abuse others? What are they afraid of and do they recognize that their methods will only bring about the exact outcome they fear happening?

    • @flovv9357
      @flovv9357 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@evilds3261 They are blinded by greed. They will cause their own demise......unfortunately when that happens a lot of people will suffer as well.

    • @evilds3261
      @evilds3261 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flovv9357 Hopefully we can use their demise as a deeply ingrained cautionary tale that will help us to reform the whole concept of politics, from a career about pretending to be useful, into the most intense academic sport ever conceived. That way, it won't just be about popularity and voters anymore, but will now be about defending your stances from every conceivable counterargument in existence. It would be so critically intense that narcissists would not be able to step foot into politics without having their egos attacked from every angle, and psychopaths would have their claims so critically deconstructed that they would be exposed as not actually caring about what they claim to care about. False promises and acting will be shunned and only sincere critical thinkers would survive. We need society to work not based on assumptions, but on constant critical reassessment of every tradition, practice, and belief periodically. Those who do not question will always be lied to. Complacency and insecurity are the worst traits for any leader to have. We need to better understand what leads people to grow up into greedy cowards or narcissistic tyrants. Instead of focusing on the symptoms of the problem, we should be focused on ascertaining the root cause and not even just simply the direct cause of the problem. THE ROOT CAUSE.

    • @brojakmate9872
      @brojakmate9872 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evilds3261 You would be surprise how stupid poor "people" are. When they are starving they will start crawling out and work again. They are worse than cattle. It is only natural for them to be exploited
      Don't feel sorry for them
      If anything blame their parents for giving birth to them

    • @michaelnazar9358
      @michaelnazar9358 ปีที่แล้ว

      .

  • @georgekostaras
    @georgekostaras ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This video has made a great case for collective farms and non profit agriculture

  • @Ganjor420
    @Ganjor420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine having your police guarding food - but not to control the distribution or something but to make sure it’s thrown in the trash and no one eats it.
    Might this be the most inhumane thing in the 21st century so far?

  • @thesocialistsealofsaimaa
    @thesocialistsealofsaimaa ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I’m glad people are becoming more aware of the fact that capitalism can’t feed the hunger of the masses. The first years of the 2020’s have made that more clear than ever

    • @BlackoutGootraxian
      @BlackoutGootraxian ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right here, in hungary, prices are so damn high due to inflation, in stores food is rotting and going bad because no one can afford them, and there is no sign of stopping. Food waste rate is extremely high.

    • @iche9373
      @iche9373 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackoutGootraxian You already got billions of Euros from the EU to support your country's economy and the social state. The problem is your corrupt Prime Minister Orban. Why do you even vote for the damned right-wing Party?

    • @BlackoutGootraxian
      @BlackoutGootraxian ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iche9373 I cant even vote yet ☠️, but yes i know he is corrupt as hell

    • @iche9373
      @iche9373 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackoutGootraxian and that makes me sad

    • @brojakmate9872
      @brojakmate9872 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO IS HUNGRY? Tell me
      The third worlders? They are not our problems. We invested in them for years and they are still corrupted. They should blame their parents for stupid enough to give birth to them in such countries

  • @PaleGhost69
    @PaleGhost69 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    There are economic incentives to keeping people hungry like giving the middle class a boogie man and low class people a reason to accept whatever horrible job they can manage to get.

  • @StevetheWizard2591
    @StevetheWizard2591 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In response to the video title...
    Short answer: No.
    Long answer: Capitalism props itself up by creating and exacerbating crises that could be easily solved without the profit motive, then claiming that since nobody could solve the problem, you'd better follow the rules of capitalism so you don't fall victim to the problems it creates. Capitalism isn't going to solve a problem it continues to demand in order to enforce compliance. What capitalism will do is tell people to throw out perfectly good food because they didn't sell it, to dump thousands of gallons of milk in a river to keep prices high, and to think that this is all a normal thing that normal people would do without the profit motive.

    • @guy-sl3kr
      @guy-sl3kr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@daniellarson3068 Well why would the people in charge want to fix that chaos? For them, it's an opportunity to buy up countless failing businesses for cheap and exploit countless desperate workers for cheaper. It's the working class that's weird for accepting these crises as something natural, really.

    • @gapsule2326
      @gapsule2326 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guy-sl3kr they only want to fix the chaos when it reaches them. The wealthy usually do not experience disasters at the same time as the poor. Issues of food and water can so far be personally solved by having money.
      Climate change whistleblowers show that the corporations and the wealthy see the threat. They primarily want to find a way to protect their station.

  • @Ry0kanzaki
    @Ry0kanzaki ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I work at a grocery store in Canada, and while we don't bleach or guard our trash, it is abundant and locked up. We use a company called second harvest to donate food that can't be sold by connecting charities to the grocery store. The problem is that the charities are so understaffed that they don't have the resources to collect and distribute the donations we make so it ends up going in the trash anyway.

    • @GoznerPeter
      @GoznerPeter ปีที่แล้ว

      I would help in my spare time, were I in Canada. Thank you for your work!

  • @J3unG
    @J3unG ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Thank you so much for your important, crucial work. Keep up the great work!
    Please refrain from using the term FOOD INSECURITY. The proper word is HUNGER or STARVATION. Food insecurity as a term obfuscates the true nature of the problem of hunger, starvation and poverty. The media began to use this term not too long ago and now everyone has replaced the words and diminished the true societal effect of hunger when talking about this crisis. Food insecurity means NOTHING and makes people think that the problem of hunger, starvation and poverty is less severe. It is important to get to the heart of the matter when talking about hunger, starvation and poverty.
    Thank you and once again, please keep up the good work!

    • @GoznerPeter
      @GoznerPeter ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you refrain from using words like obfuscates? No need to outsmart the other smartasses.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Food insecurity is a more accurate term, because starvation, malnourishment, and hunger are all not quite the same thing as one another. Using that broader terminology removes ground for potential nitpicks and pedantry that could otherwise be used to dismiss the genuine problem at hand. Overly intense language might *sound* more compelling to you, but that's only because you're already more sensitive to the issue being discussed; a person who already wants to dismiss that issue will hear such extreme language and assume it's an exaggeration or hyperbole.
      Empathy and sympathy are not the same thing. Being sympathetic to a cause may win the hearts of like-minded peers, but will do nothing to persuade skeptics. Empathy will allow you to understand the feelings of both skeptics and the like-minded, so that you can bridge the gap between them. You may consider it callous to approach the problem this way, but it stands a better chance of actually helping convince people.

  • @etep878
    @etep878 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    With so much food being thrown out, I’m wondering when we will completely deplete the soil and cause massive agricultural failures.

    • @notorioustori
      @notorioustori ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, we unfortunately have artificial fertilizer for that. But you can look towards Sri Lanka for what happens when artificial fertilizer is banned.

    • @notorioustori
      @notorioustori ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LongDefiant not synthetic fertilizer

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notorioustori yes synthetic fertilizer... which isn't synthetic, but mined mineral phosphor.

    • @notorioustori
      @notorioustori ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LongDefiant there's a shortage. That doesn't mean we're "running out" of it. There's s difference; since the shortage is circunstancial and can be reversed. Running out = depletion. Which, sure. Eventually we will run out of everything that's finite. We're running out of fossil fuels in that same vein...but not soon.
      Anyways, I was being tongue-in-cheek. The fact that we rely on synthetic fertilizer to make organic produce should tell us where we are as capitalistic consumers. I can assure you, I'm not dense, but thanks for asking.
      Perhaps maybe explain to me how I'm wrong than being an asshole about it?

    • @notorioustori
      @notorioustori ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SonsOfLorgar depending on who you ask, there's a lot of debate and uncertainty over just how much phosphate, and thus phosphorus, we have left. Some say a few decades, some say a few millennia. Another issue is not the "how much" but the "where". Some of it is economically impractical to get to, some is politically impossible to obtain. Either way, I'm not a fan of digging until we find out. Everything we have on this earth is finite and the fact that we're already at the point where rainwater is no longer safe to drink anywhere on Earth means we've already been ignoring alarm bells for too long.
      Anywho, next time I'm being sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek, I'll be sure to pop in an emoji or "/s" next to my comment.

  • @charlesvalentine9638
    @charlesvalentine9638 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My God this is important. I never see this information presented elsewhere. We live in a sick system.

  • @GhostOnTheHalfShell
    @GhostOnTheHalfShell ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So the effect of “free trade” has been similar to the British effect on Ireland during the potato famine. There, food produced in Ireland was grown exclusively for export to Britain while the population ate potatoes because these could be grown in (poor) soil unsuitable for growing export products. Of course the British landlords had all sorts of things to say about the Irish, particularly of their plight when potato crops failed. The sorts of things we can hear some say about a lot of people today.

  • @EayuProuxm
    @EayuProuxm ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "You can't make money when something's abundant."
    The scariest thing I've heard on this channel

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every video here contains the scariest thing I have seen on this channel.

  • @bethourekt6361
    @bethourekt6361 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificates-died of malnutrition-because the food must rot, must be forced to rot." Steinbeck wrote this almost 100 years ago and NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

  • @myfoodishere
    @myfoodishere ปีที่แล้ว +14

    american living in china here. i used to stand on food lines in the bronx. sometimes the food was a little bit off the best buy date. but it was edible and i needed it and i was very happy it was there. i didnt know much about china before i came other than that "theyre the bad guys". yet they managed to take over 800 million people out of poverty. the government spent that money and invested in communities, infrastructure, education. food and pretty much everything is 37 percent cheaper here dollar wise. the government has a war on poverty. we do not. why cant we take millions out of poverty and create affordable food, housing, healthcare and ecucation?

    • @nobody-bt7mu
      @nobody-bt7mu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +420 Social Credit Score

    • @EliParker28
      @EliParker28 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nobody-bt7mu if you dont criticize the government, and you aren't a minority in rural china then you are good. That being said, the Chinese government wants to continue living, so it will spend money in order to make change that can reserve global warming.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinas social program has poor quality they invests it from the top down so they don’t see where the money is going

  • @UncleKeith567
    @UncleKeith567 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Speaking of Storyblocks, I really enjoy when creators use my hometown (Baltimore) when talking about the US. The shot from Federal Hill over the harbour never gets old for me!

  • @franklind.roosevelt3984
    @franklind.roosevelt3984 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s a shame that your previous video was age restricted. Keep up with the good work comrade

  • @CalamityDiamond
    @CalamityDiamond ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Elon Musk telling someone to 'see sunlight' after seeing that picture of him in a bathing suit is pure irony.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atleast he tried to solve world hunger by proving that the problem isn’t lack of food or capitalism

  • @DMachine52
    @DMachine52 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Apprecaite these videos - fantastic way to share a different perspective without emotions flying whenever cable news talking points are regurgitated.
    Second Thought does a fantastic job seamlessly reframing the conversation to be solution orrientated and its hard not to get behind what you're saying.
    keep it up!

  • @Micah_Not_Micha
    @Micah_Not_Micha ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worked at a Target. We threw away so much food, from our grocery area, that it radicalized me even more.

  • @drummerxkun
    @drummerxkun ปีที่แล้ว +16

    great vid again JT :-) really appreciate the work you do to produce such great, educational agitprop every week. the section on the IMF and world bank was super important too, as a non-american viewer, i think it's great that western viewers are exposed to the impact of capitalism not just at home, but how their fellow workers around the world are impacted by the same system

  • @rakkatytam
    @rakkatytam ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is how I imagine society blaming the individual for food waste.
    Media: "You're not going to eat all that? Starving kids in Africa would love to have that!"
    Me: "And why are there starving kids in Afrcia?"

    • @93corollausa94
      @93corollausa94 ปีที่แล้ว

      because they have corrupt shitty leaders who steal all the governments money and wont invest in infrastructure or industry

  • @UserName-jz8iv
    @UserName-jz8iv ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also regarding bleaching dumpsters, its largely to prevent both people from taking items out for fraudulent returns as well as to stop people from fishing for receipts, especially if were talking places that have pharmacies, they really don't want people in the dumpster.

    • @EliParker28
      @EliParker28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then they make a didnt rule, that certain foods cant be returned.

  • @scook449
    @scook449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worked for a supermarket bakery and I did the morning shifts, so I had to sort through the old stock and decided what needed to be tossed.
    Honestly, we didn't toss a lot.
    All day old loaves of bread were either turned into garlic bread or donated to the local shelter or pig farmer.
    All items(expect for the refrigeration needed items) the day after their marked date was put on a discount rack and most sold except for larger sheet cakes.
    The day after that I was added to the donation pile, but the shelter only picked up 2 carts worth of food and the pig farmer only came in once a week or so.
    I never had to trow away more than 1/2 a can of food a day, and most times the can was full of air since they were packed in the plastic containers and opening them up took too much time for my boss's standards.
    So my store really tried to get the most out what we had, within reason. which did lead to less waste.

  • @lordofduct
    @lordofduct ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG - the short segment with sponge-bob and his todo list... you got me laughing so hard. Thank you for that.

  • @danilvanlaethem9463
    @danilvanlaethem9463 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Babe, second thought uploaded a new video.
    Thanks for the video ST!

  • @jacobbronsky464
    @jacobbronsky464 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Decaying all on its own, like a sad little loner."
    We
    We're still talking about the apple, right ?

  • @dany_fg
    @dany_fg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I worked with a dining room once (for workers of a company) and had to dump about 7 full 60-80 liter of completely edible food.
    most of the time if you wanted to get a plate full of "bad" food (as the dining room worker) you could with no issue.
    also the giant trash cans were so heavy you needed a small metal carrier just to take it out.

  • @mystupidlife123
    @mystupidlife123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I work at a ("neighborhood") grocery store (the hibiscus one) and thank goodness we at least have a donation program because the standards for something to stay on the shelves is high. I have to get rid of a two pound container of blueberries if even a single one is moldy (I can pull out the moldy one and donate the package though). If a package is broken I have to throw it away since the charity program can't take it for safety reasons. I'd say every day 50kg of product is taken off the shelves, on the low end but at least most of it gets donated rather than trashed.
    Also the illusion of abundance is real and it makes it harder for me to find bad produce. Nobody wants to go through the shiny apple tower to find the rotten ones. I wish we weren't told to stock the shelves all the way. But people don't want to buy the last one.

  • @ASSARAPTUS
    @ASSARAPTUS ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great Video JT. As an Illustrator I'm curious to what your analysis would be of HBOMax removing and specifically targeting animated shows and using them as a tax write offs to cover a boring and expensive merger that nobody asked for? To me it feels like a huge slap in the face to already severely exploited animators,artists and writers.

  • @BlitzkriegOmega
    @BlitzkriegOmega ปีที่แล้ว +48

    To answer the title in my own thoughts:
    Technically Capitalism *can* solve world hunger, but it will do so in the most socially destructive way possible in order to preserve the supposed scarcity and economic of food. I'm sure you've seen the right-wing meme "Eat The Bugs", a story that creates the vision of a dystopia where Real Meat has been completely phased out because of its environmental impact and your diet has been replaced with grub worms and crickets...except they blame Liberals instead of what the more likely perpetrator would be: The drive for infinite profit in a finite world.
    Corporations, if tasked with solving world hunger, would create a food source so thoroughly disgusting and humiliating to consume as to drive up the value and supposed scarcity of real food. This would in turn create a class of person so economically and culturally separated and intentionally lesser than "normal people" as to create a "Sub-Human" class that can be made to work for what is effectively slave labor. The "Bug Men" do all of the "dirty jobs" and get paid only enough to buy bugs that only barely keep them fed, but are never able to rise above their station to afford a food-source that isn't humiliating to consume. meanwhile, production of fruit, vegetables, and meat (especially beef) does not slow down, as it doesn't need to. the only thing that changes is that it's made more expensive as a carrot for the "Bug Men" to never reach. Real Food becomes a luxury for the wealthy.

    • @zombieminecraft4213
      @zombieminecraft4213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that indeed is a dystopia and perhaps well have it come true at this rate eventually.

    • @angelainamarie9656
      @angelainamarie9656 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically capitalism is incapable of solving world hunger since it's had over 100 years to do so and no solution has occurred

    • @BlitzkriegOmega
      @BlitzkriegOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelainamarie9656 If it were for the means of human survival, they could…but in the shittiest way imaginable in order to preserve their profit margins. You can’t fleece everyone if they’re dead, but you can still be a dick about saving them.

    • @spacehooliganzack7429
      @spacehooliganzack7429 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the great Marxist treatise Snowpiercer, the rich force the poor to eat nothing but cockroaches

    • @masonator4032
      @masonator4032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, I hear bugs taste pretty good in some parts of the world.

  • @EnchantedScroll
    @EnchantedScroll ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was such a brilliant video, really drove the point home by the end of it! And I learned things about world hunger that I never knew before.

  • @trunoholdaway2114
    @trunoholdaway2114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos have been getting better, keep up the good work.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! Glad you think so

  • @Thebreakdownshow1
    @Thebreakdownshow1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    LOL you get my subscription to love the ELON MUSK JIBE. Al ways of learning from your content.

    • @madat5843
      @madat5843 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just checked your channel and subbed you are so under rated

  • @nathanmcbow158
    @nathanmcbow158 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a solid example of how capitalism does not give a toss about practicality or efficiency at all. I admit, I have had to toss out a vegetable or two that I left to spoil in the back end of the fridge, but I try to make an individuals effort to waste not.
    Capitalism is human junk at it´s finest. We all need to scrap it one way or another.

    • @albenmurcia4716
      @albenmurcia4716 ปีที่แล้ว

      We eat a lot of beggies at my house but always over buy. We used to waste a lot but kow if something is unused or looks like it will go bad soon it gets tossed in a bag and frozen. Then when bag is filled i make an amazing and thick veggie stock or veggie demi thats packed with nutrients. Nothing goes to waste here anymore

    • @Lucas-sc6lr
      @Lucas-sc6lr ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@albenmurcia4716 Mate, the problem isn't the individual. As much conglomerates and government try to pin it down on us, the whole capitalist system is at fault, if only to increase profits.

    • @ultimatehamsandwich734
      @ultimatehamsandwich734 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh its efficient, the difference is what the efficiency is FOR

  • @seraphina985
    @seraphina985 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When it comes to food waste where it is uneconomical to pick I would love to see the farmers just offer some kind of pick and go arrangement. Hell they could perhaps even reasonably ask for a fraction of the harvest in compensation for their effort growing it, the rest the picker takes home with them. There are a lot of hungry people that I am sure would show up and pick a basket of fruit or vegetables if they could keep most of it to feed them and their family say 75% or so. I feel like this could work but transport may be the issue, then again I suspect some would trade a little more for a bus ride if you offered them one, sometimes thinking outside the box to help those willing to help you unconventional solutions could work.

    • @gapsule2326
      @gapsule2326 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure there are some places you pay to pick food because its enjoyable. Saw it on youtube but dont remember the details. I think it was peaches.

    • @Asphodelic_Ellipse
      @Asphodelic_Ellipse ปีที่แล้ว

      It may not be allowed due to contracts with supermarkets

    • @allrounder7003
      @allrounder7003 ปีที่แล้ว

      Transport would be a massive issue and bus rides in rural areas are pretty much non-existant.

    • @Jo-Heike
      @Jo-Heike ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the video he mentions one of the reasons that doesn't happen. The reason the produce does not get harvested is that prices are down, due to too much SUPPLY, so if you let people pick the food, you increase the supplies, lowering prices, meaning you can't sell for longer.

  • @ellicurus
    @ellicurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember that when we’re talking about “farmers” in the context of food waste, we should clarify that we mean corporate farmers or large farms under the thumb of corporations like Monsanto. Small family owned farms are struggling because of pressure from the corps as well, and food waste is painful for them too. I live in a rural area, and all of the local farms tend to have their own markets, or market co-ops where multiple family farms can sell their products, or at least roadside stands. And when things like apples and blueberries are getting towards their limit, they use them for other products that keep longer to sell, like baked and jarred goods. And there tends not to be any worry about being sued or losing profit when food is donated because, if you don’t know the farmers personally, you know someone who knows them.
    We need more of this. More communities. Kinda like, what do you call it, a commune setup? Commun…ism?

  • @elzapatista5682
    @elzapatista5682 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i’ve never seen such a based comment section and content creator, im glad you’re making these videos and educating the masses dude

  • @lolimmune
    @lolimmune ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can capitalism.. Sure it COULD, will it? No never. Its not profitable.

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Logic and reason? In a TH-cam comment???
      But seriously, people love to treat Capitalism like this holy system that's near impossible to comprehend its complexities when it's just as simple as you say: it just comes down to will it make profit or not. That's it.

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAmericanAmerican sadly, it's true. Painfully simple and insidious, if something doesnt make money capitalism doesnt care. And if it does make money, capitalism will do everything in its power to drain every cent out of it. In addition to making sure no one else can.
      God forbid something COSTS money oh no! Must completely gut and destroy it, then point out its failings after destroying it so capitalism doesnt have to pay again in the future.

    • @III............
      @III............ ปีที่แล้ว

      PROFIT WOULDN'T MATTER IF MOST PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE UP A LARGE PORTION OF THEIR WEALTH AND NOT MAKE MORE MONEY IN RETURN.

  • @jplino3466
    @jplino3466 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was in my early 20s I worked in the food service of a corporate building in NYC. I got to see the waste first hand. I sometimes wanted so badly to take some with me because it was perfectly good food. They did donate some but most at the end of the day got tossed in the trash.

  • @xymaryai8283
    @xymaryai8283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have done literally everything to tell youtube to tell me about your videos. this is the first i've seen in 3 months.

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving the podcast, keep up the great work.

  • @Matthew.E.Kelly.
    @Matthew.E.Kelly. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God *DAMN* man this is a good video. I keep waiting for the best video this channel will do & there's no way, just no shot, every new one is better than the last. They're all so good.

  • @vadimk3484
    @vadimk3484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The current pillaging of African agriculture literally mirrors the main "business model" of the Russian Empire - back then, grains were what fossil fuels are today. And while the Russian Empire was an agricultural country with a vast prevalence of peasants over industrial workers, which produced a very large amount of wheat and other grains, people there still went hungry on a regular basis - like, every 10 years or so there were famines of disastrous proportions, with casualties. This was because most of the produced crops were exported by the owners to be sold for profit, even though it was absolutely clear that the population is not getting enough food.

  • @erikkoehler8775
    @erikkoehler8775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this. I'm an environmental agriculturalist and this has been my soapbox since my undergraduate. Food as a commodity to be sold for profit rather than a utility to be distributed will never solve world hunger.
    Not only is the food system wasteful and predatory, it's environmentally damaging as well as not providing food to those in need. All that food left to rot goes to a landfill (or shipped overseas to their landfill), rather than being composted and returned to the fields from which the nutrients were reaped to produce it. This ultimately leads to reduced soil health and further reliance on manufactured fertilizers.

  • @thesudaneseprince9675
    @thesudaneseprince9675 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was JTs videos about food that flipped me - it urks me so badly to know that people die all the time from being unable to satisfy the most basic needs while we have enough for everyone. The most graphic portrayal of how our economic system doesn't prioritise the correct things

  • @maxmeggeneder8935
    @maxmeggeneder8935 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No. It can't.
    And now I will watch the video.

  • @Lady_highrock
    @Lady_highrock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The funny thing about it is most states have good Samaritan laws, or something along the line, these laws protect companies who donate foodstuffs in good faith from lawsuits.
    So it's not the threat of a lawsuit it's the fact that there is no incentive in place to give them money for the donation, given a supermarket has to pay logistics costs to get foodstuffs to a community pantry.
    So again capitalism and the need to wring every last dollar out of everything is the cause.

  • @ScrapPalletMan
    @ScrapPalletMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is no liability for stores to give food to the hungry.
    The Good Samaritan Food Donation Act was signed into law in 1996. The Act was created to encourage the donation of food and grocery products to qualified non-profit organizations and provides liability protection to food donors.

    • @III............
      @III............ ปีที่แล้ว

      I'M GLAD NO STORE HAS THAT LIABILITY. NO ONE SHOULD EVER BE FORCED INTO SHARING THEIR PROPERTY.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@III............ If only someone had forced you to learn reading comprehension.

  • @nubius
    @nubius ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zucchini-chan is now an official character in the second thought/deprogram universe. She's trying her best so be nice to her y'all.

  • @nintendo8127
    @nintendo8127 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    After seeing a video about how some baby food had metal in it, I was hoping you would make a video about food. I thought it would be more about the materials in the food, because I feel this is a huge problem, too.

    • @WastedContender
      @WastedContender ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the problem has the same source: increasing profits through putting heavy weight materials in food. its disgusting.

    • @weiren03081996
      @weiren03081996 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought iron was added to baby food for nutritional reasons?

    • @nintendo8127
      @nintendo8127 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they have also found lead, arsenic, mercury, and others in some of them.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on the food metal ions can be useful
      Particularly things like iron and magnesium

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nintendo8127 that’s fucking poison why the fuck are they so callusly evil

  • @benclawhauser886
    @benclawhauser886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a quality channel. Very thorough research and well conveyed.

  • @Alex-re3qm
    @Alex-re3qm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Storyblocks is a perfect sponsor for this channel