I have had great fun using Tribunals to rule over a court (3 or 5 judges). Add some political intrigue and shifting alliances, and for players that like Machiavelli maneuvering, it can be awesome. Add appeal directly to the Duke / Prince / King / Bishop, and a sprinkling of Quid pro Quo. The opportunities are endless.
Interesting ideas, though it also depends on the Campaign & Setting. Instead of a more modern Trial by Jury/in a Courtroom it could be more logical (fit better in the setting) to have it be a "Trial by Combat", especially because the traditional view with that historically was that if innocent God would intervene or allow them to be victorious. Since in D&D the God(s) tend to be actually active in the Multiverse & visibly doing things, it could be extra plausible that a Deity could intervene or guide/aid the person and grant them victory. 2:35
@@DDHomebrew Excellent question, it would have to go back to what is the setting. Perhaps in an Eberron setting the State's Champion is an extra special powerful Warforged. In a more Greyhawk/Barovia type setting perhaps a special Vampiric/Undead type champion. In a Dragonlance Universe setting then perhaps it's a Gold Dragon who Polymorphs into a Humanoid. As for Forgotten Realms then the options could be any I mentioned or something else entirely. In any case the options are varied, therefore it's best to examine the World/Multiverse you are designing & playing in then determine what feels most logical and interesting.
I suspect this should be considered more for urban based adventuring and at higher level as part of the diplomacy, politics and fighting by other means that should be more often the player characters intiating. At lower level in the wilderness it might be better to leave it as a threat for off the rails banditry and abuse of villagers but maybe plot hooks for them to clear a favored npc through actions or quests, etc. For me the ordinary Bandit is just a peasant mostly robbing merchants and travelers with a price on their head (but not identified as the locals) by the Lord so a moral ambiguity for PCs who can turn some coun but alienate the common folk and Brigands being the bad guys everyone wants killed for gold but invoke their patrons as enemies that include other Lords or a villain, a guild, etc. In that one might bring thrm back alive for trial and that might reveal more depth. A fast beheading of the brigand leader who actually just wirks for the Lord to terrorize the populace is a plot. The shametrial if a poor sympathic peasant bandit might stir a revolt!
Courtrooms, .. verses Peire Masson, .. half an hour of strait to the point plots. Attention spans of veterans ? Law And Order, hour of over emotional lawyers .. to me at least after years of Star Trek watching Vulcans. Judge Judy, .. learn at a young age to avoid people that show up in her court, they cost you money in the short/long term. Star Trek: The Next generation. " Drum Head, " what happens when you start chasing paranoia for spies not there. Then you got to like TNG Klingon law courts. I love Klingon lawyer from DS9. .. deep sigh, .. Night court ? Judge Harry ?
Would be an interesting premise for a campaign- instead of "You meet in a tavern", it's "You meet during jury selection"
There you go!
I have had great fun using Tribunals to rule over a court (3 or 5 judges). Add some political intrigue and shifting alliances, and for players that like Machiavelli maneuvering, it can be awesome. Add appeal directly to the Duke / Prince / King / Bishop, and a sprinkling of Quid pro Quo. The opportunities are endless.
Yep. And it opens a new dimension of role playing.
Interesting ideas, though it also depends on the Campaign & Setting. Instead of a more modern Trial by Jury/in a Courtroom it could be more logical (fit better in the setting) to have it be a "Trial by Combat", especially because the traditional view with that historically was that if innocent God would intervene or allow them to be victorious. Since in D&D the God(s) tend to be actually active in the Multiverse & visibly doing things, it could be extra plausible that a Deity could intervene or guide/aid the person and grant them victory. 2:35
Great idea here. The question then is who is the State's champion and who represents the players? You could have a Game of Thrones situation!
@@DDHomebrew Excellent question, it would have to go back to what is the setting. Perhaps in an Eberron setting the State's Champion is an extra special powerful Warforged. In a more Greyhawk/Barovia type setting perhaps a special Vampiric/Undead type champion. In a Dragonlance Universe setting then perhaps it's a Gold Dragon who Polymorphs into a Humanoid. As for Forgotten Realms then the options could be any I mentioned or something else entirely. In any case the options are varied, therefore it's best to examine the World/Multiverse you are designing & playing in then determine what feels most logical and interesting.
@@morrigankasa570 Because a more corrupt society may pick a champion that is either insanely strong or use dirty tactics to win.
I suspect this should be considered more for urban based adventuring and at higher level as part of the diplomacy, politics and fighting by other means that should be more often the player characters intiating. At lower level in the wilderness it might be better to leave it as a threat for off the rails banditry and abuse of villagers but maybe plot hooks for them to clear a favored npc through actions or quests, etc.
For me the ordinary Bandit is just a peasant mostly robbing merchants and travelers with a price on their head (but not identified as the locals) by the Lord so a moral ambiguity for PCs who can turn some coun but alienate the common folk and Brigands being the bad guys everyone wants killed for gold but invoke their patrons as enemies that include other Lords or a villain, a guild, etc. In that one might bring thrm back alive for trial and that might reveal more depth. A fast beheading of the brigand leader who actually just wirks for the Lord to terrorize the populace is a plot. The shametrial if a poor sympathic peasant bandit might stir a revolt!
That's the thing about kangaroo courts: they stir upore trouble than they're worth! Hence the attempt to have a "fair" trial.
So what was the verdict!?
We'll see.
Courtrooms, .. verses
Peire Masson, .. half an hour of strait to the point plots. Attention spans of veterans ?
Law And Order, hour of over emotional lawyers .. to me at least after years of Star Trek watching Vulcans.
Judge Judy, .. learn at a young age to avoid people that show up in her court, they cost you money in the short/long term.
Star Trek: The Next generation.
" Drum Head, " what happens when you start chasing paranoia for spies not there.
Then you got to like TNG Klingon law courts. I love Klingon lawyer from DS9.
.. deep sigh, .. Night court ? Judge Harry ?
All good examples! And like I said in the video: keep the trial short!