You taught me how to solve a 3x3, 4x4, 5x5 and beyond. I will happily admit you got me through lockdown here in the UK by opening up the world of speedcubing. You break things down so well, but when you got onto commutators you absolutely destroyed my mind. I still use the beginners method, but I'm working on it, to be fair I was 35 when I started and I'm 38 now, so it's a little harder for things to get into my head these days ha ha Thank you.
I've become obsessed with doing it this way. This has been great commutator practice, and the f2l/fl/f4b has become a lot simpler and less daunting than how you did it here. F2L algs covers all the corners and edge pieces for the first 4 blocks, keeping what you've solved at the bottom and repositioning them in optimal positions to continue solving. Putting the centers in place I found was easiest after first making them face the bottom and using 2 slice moves (assuming a desired center piece was somewhere along the sides).
I saw this video 2 years ago when you posted it. It just got recommended to me 2 years after you uploaded it. You have changed alot since then and your channel has hit 1M Subscribers. When I had earlier saw this, I thought this challenge was very hard, but looking back at it today, just to put every HARD challenge you have done so far after this one into perspective this seems very easy. Can't believe that this was posted 2 years ago. And damn time flies by pretty fast. This video just brings lots of cubing memories from earlier times.
Reduction to 2x2 is my favorite way of slow solving a 4x4, I do it completely intuitively and don't need to worry about parity. Even the ugly case you got I solve intuitively. After the bottom layer 2x2 blocks are built the top layer 2x2s are built doing nothing more than R'D'RD and turning U and swapping positions of 2x2 blocks. But if I really feel masochistic I go for a layer by layer solve of the 4x4, first 3 layers are easy, last layer is challenging.
Layer by layer with commutators [[R,U], 2R] - for wings pseudo-OLL and F2 [[R,U],2R2] F2 for PLL was my own method, when i was beginner, and then it helped me to solve Magic Cube 4D 4^4 (4x4x4x4) without much difficulty (when other used reduction). I just use macros with these comms.
tysm bro i couldnt be bothered to remember all the parity algorithms but when i got a 2x2 case on the 4x4 and then solved it for the first time and i knew what i was doing i had to see how to do this since i can solve 2x2 averagely under 8-10 seconds tyyy-and used to remember how to solve the mirror 2x2 😂
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Yeah i was thinking the same thing. If you leave a slot, you can intuitively solve 3 of the top corners, so you would have 2 unsolved pieces left. Then you could develop algs for solving those two pieces
@@aryansingh2199 Superantoniovivaldi actually has a video on a bandaged 4x4 that's has 2x2 pieces stuck together and he shows how to do it fully intuitively
That's a good idea, i didn't think of it! It wasn't until after I recorded the video that I thought to check if other people had done this before, and I saw a few videos showing how to do it better than I did 😅
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Like you said, instead of reducing to 2x2 it's instead possible to solve the pieces into correct spots right away, one by one. The resulting method would still be a bizarre and laborious 4x4 layer by layer with unnecessary piece order restrictions. You did it the hard way, congrats.
I'm really glad you got pairty in the solve, even though it is a pain, if you lucked out and it didn't happen then it would have still been a mystery about whether it occurs at all. Now we know. Thank you for your contribution to SCIENCE!
Omg!!! After 2 fails, I tried to do it again with your help and it worked! I was having a hard time doing commutators and doing the final piece, but I still managed to do it in the end. Even if its a tutorial or not, you still helped me bro! Thank you!!!
Oops, I meant like more intuitively than that, like blockbuilding haha. Each commutator is very intuitive, but the concept of commutators as a whole is less intuitive in the sense that it's really hard to figure out on your own.
Hey J Perm can you please make a proper "how to plan your whole cross" because i have watched all of your cross tip videos and you say that i should plan it out during inspection but i really struggle with it . I cant memorise my plan i would love some tips for memorization! ♥
J perm: Teaches us how to use Hoya,Yau and Redux. Next day, he teaches us solving it using this 2x2 method. Me: Which one should I learn? Next day, J perm: Let me teach you another method.
Regardless of the inefficiencies I think this was very interesting. I think more of us should get to know cube theory and veer away from the algorithms.
Omg! You went about that the hard way. But congrats! I like to use this method on a megamorphix puzzle. Using 2x2 R'D'RD moves in the last half(layer by layer in the first half) to pair edges with centers moving them around hideing them in the top layer. Sometimes you need a corner swap for the final 2 corner groups... this is a good process for the AI bandaged 4x4 cubes To fix parity you simply use false equivalency of centers to correct.
Answer: You can but you shouldn’t because you’re not pairing up/solving the same type of piece so it’s harder to see what you’re doing therefore it’s slower
Me: "I guess he will scramble it like a 2x2 and then solve it." Him: Scrambles it like a 4x4, turns it into a 2x2 and Then solves it. Me: "High IQ you've got right there man🧐"
i just ordered several different rubik's cubes, and the 4x4 cube is a part of that order. And watching this made me just confuzzled in many ways(Yes, I had to look up a word for how I felt). But I'm excited. I'll try to solve it on my own, I'm sure that I will have to look up the method to solve it on TH-cam, and I'll for sure look at one of your videos to solve the cube if i can't solve it on my own. And I do have nearly four months of experience with a 3x3 cube.
I tried this once too although I did it a different way and like you said, you get to a certain point and realize how pointless it is. If you are manually placing specific pieces in specific places, you might as well just put them where they belong. The way I did it was a more brute force method where I solved it like a 4x4 supercube where I assigned a specific corner to each corner position based on where the corners were at the beginning of the solve. In the first stages of solving the centres I had to do it without shifting any of the corner's relative positions or rotations because those were my reference points. Once I finished the centres I used them as my new anchors. It was such a pain because if you accidentally rotate one of the centres it is really hard to notice until it's too late.
solving a 4x4 by Yao method: *this man's pro* solving it by moving pieces in random: no. solving it by reducing the full thing to a 2x2: yEs, WhY nOt next challenge for JPerm: solve 4x4 by reducing to 5x5
I don’t have a 4x4 but I want one because I have so many other cubes and I was thinking about it and I was like how do you do f2l and then I thought wait it’s f3l
Hey J Perm just wanted you to now you are a great example to follow your tips and vids are super useful and I have been improving thanks to you your the best. Hope everyone who reads this have a wonderful day full of blessings✨
Literally yesterday my brother (non-cuber) asked me: wouldn't it be a nice method for a 4x4 to reduct it to a 2x2 and then solve it like a 2x2? I almost died when u uploaded this :D
years after release, and months after watching it for the first time (before I'd even gotten into cubing) I managed to solve a 4x4 as a two by two myself. It took me like 4 hours, and was pure pain, would recommend!
I don't know why, but whenever I'm watching TH-cam late at night, I always seem to become bored yet not tired. then, I click on one of Dylan's videos and start to close my eyes. Can anyone else relate?
His content is unintentionally soothing, like a teacher with a soft voice to whom you should be paying attention but end up dozing off, not because you aren't interested in what they're saying, but because they naturally blend into the silence
I remember when I got my Rubik's 4x4 (this was was probably around 13 or 14 years ago). It came with a solve guide that taught solving the all of the edges and corners (partially using commutators) first and then solving the centers using commutators. When I got it all memorized, a good solve was probably around 7-8 minutes. Then I got the Rubik's 5x5, and basically applied the same methods, having to come up with something for middle pieces. I think 15-20 was probably around my average then. Long story short that method sucked, and also I never want to touch my Rubik's brand 5x5 ever again.
Hey JPerm, I love this question and you did a lot of the same things that people usually do when they start out with it. I actually created a 2x2 reduction method for 4x4 a couple years ago that I still use to speed solve to this day. I still haven't finished the method, but here is a video of me using my method and getting a 1:07 pb with a 2x2 reduction method. th-cam.com/video/qUVaWMzhJjo/w-d-xo.html
my first 4x4 comes in tomorrow, i'm pretty excited. I'm familiar with solving 3x3 and i've heard people say after the centers of the 4x4 you solve it like a 3x3 but the concept is going over my head by just looking at it. Maybe it'll make more sense when I have it in my hands.
Superantoniovivaldi has a great video on how to do this! He shows how he solves a 4x4 with bandaged pieces that make 2x2 pieces if it makes sense, his video is really great and his method is intuitive
I find it fun to scramble a 4×4 like a 2×2, then scramble that like a 3×3. Now I have a way to make a 4×4 into a 2×2 using only 3×3 algorithms. It's still challenging but it's not as complicated as turning a randomly scrambled 4×4 into a 2×2
Definitely a like for the effort! I'm glad to find out what it's like. It doesn't matter if it's useful. Like what's useful about blind solving? The task *is* the puzzle.
The reason a 2x2 is hard to make, is because in order to get the cube in a 2 by 2 formation, you need the ability to solve the cube another way, because basically what your doing is trying to get the cube in a certain position, which is the exact same thing as you trying to solve a cube
nice video.. btw i am new on rubik's cube.. i already can solve 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, and pyraminx.. it is really worth it to continue with 6x6 and so on? what next cube should i get? gigaminx? mirrow cube? thanks
Before watching you try to solve it as a 2x2, I assumed it was based upon how you can move pieces around. You can move the centre pieces around without mixing up already "solved" ones, but that disturbs the edges. Then you can fix up the edges without distubring the "solved" centre. I assumed that trying to solve both the centre and the edge and corner at the same time to make the larger corner would be much harder. There is also the question of if attempting to do so would result in an impossible to solve state due to picking the wrong 2x2 setup.
Getting lost in a parity alg has consistently been the most anxiety inducing event when cubing I cringe and grit my teeth whenever I see someone else get stuck And it's so satisfying to see them finish it
i think a better explanation for why you reduce to a 3x3 is that reducing to a 3x3 is a method that stays consistent and works for any cube size. you cant reduce any cube size to a 2x2 because odd numbers exist, but you can reduce any cube to a 3x3
OMG! That was so fun to watch. Thank you for suffering for us. You are a God. I learned so much and had my mind blown too many times to count... Namaste 🙏🏿
Dylan: “I will not dare to do this ever again.” Also Dylan: “Today we will be solving and 8x8 like a 4x4 then like a 2x2” Dylan in the future: “Today I will try solving a 32x32 like a 16x16 then a 8x8 then a 4x4 and last a 2x2” Dylan at the end of the world: “Today I’m going to solve a 4096x4096 like a….”
I'm getting an 8x8 tomorrow, and last night I watched your video on reducing an 8x8 to a 4x4. I decided to try reducing my 4x4 to a 2x2 before going to this video, and I realized quickly solving it like a 4x4 is far easier and quicker. Not interested in making it more complicated.
when solving any size cube. i always reduce to a 1x1
Wait how that’s so hard 😰
i reduce to a 1x1 too, but i cant solve it from there :(
what
Me to, smart minds think alike
I reduce to a 0-0
You taught me how to solve a 3x3, 4x4, 5x5 and beyond.
I will happily admit you got me through lockdown here in the UK by opening up the world of speedcubing.
You break things down so well, but when you got onto commutators you absolutely destroyed my mind.
I still use the beginners method, but I'm working on it, to be fair I was 35 when I started and I'm 38 now, so it's a little harder for things to get into my head these days ha ha
Thank you.
do you start solving the 5x5 like a 3x3? from the middle?
Dylan: I will not do that ever again it's pointless
Also Dylan: Why dont we solve 6×6 like a big 3×3
And 8x8 like a big 4x4
@@Dhruveluv 8x8 into a 4x4 into a 2x2
@@JTCubing916 That's cursed
Redicendia do you realize that’s impossible
@@apoiadordelobos7887 you commented on the wrong comment you know ?
it doesnt matter , in the end we always reduce every Cube to a 1 x1
I belive that's the cleverest thing I've ever heard
@@MurihSantos Most clever, rather
Help me I reduced it to a 1x1 and I don’t know what to do next 😰
So that means every cube we solve, we end up with a DNF because be don’t solve it like a 1x1?
I expand it into any cube lol
I've become obsessed with doing it this way. This has been great commutator practice, and the f2l/fl/f4b has become a lot simpler and less daunting than how you did it here.
F2L algs covers all the corners and edge pieces for the first 4 blocks, keeping what you've solved at the bottom and repositioning them in optimal positions to continue solving. Putting the centers in place I found was easiest after first making them face the bottom and using 2 slice moves (assuming a desired center piece was somewhere along the sides).
Please develop
i agree
id like to learn to commutate @@samueljehanno
I dare you to do an official solve like that in a comp after Covid
Megan Gibbons I don’t think wasting ur solves doing that is eorth it. Unless he gets faster with this method
@@nahbus2033 Or just to meme. Meming is fun
maxwell simon True. But wca is a official comp
but meming in an official comp would be way more funny
Exactly
2030: This day 4-8-2020 Wang Method had been invented the best 4x4 method
LOL
it's been done multiple times in the past, and it's been shown to be shit
haha
@@fesh That's the joke.
@@iDunnoMC it's barely a joke
Nobody:
Jperm in his next video: reducing 12x12 to a 2x2 and solving it
Nobody:
Jperm in his next video: reducing a 3x3 to a 2x2 and solving it
@Pro Clash thats the joke...
RK Cubing reducing a 12x12 to a 6x6 and reducing it again to a 3x3 and solving it
32x32 to 16x16 to 8x8 to 4x4 to 2x2 to 1x1
sssshhhhhhh..... do't give him any ideas XD
I think this video is second only to "watch for falling rocks in half an A press" for the most insane thing I've ever seen on here. Good effort
I saw this video 2 years ago when you posted it.
It just got recommended to me 2 years after you uploaded it. You have changed alot since then and your channel has hit 1M Subscribers.
When I had earlier saw this, I thought this challenge was very hard, but looking back at it today, just to put every HARD challenge you have done so far after this one into perspective this seems very easy.
Can't believe that this was posted 2 years ago. And damn time flies by pretty fast. This video just brings lots of cubing memories from earlier times.
If u R in Ukraine hope ur good with da things happenin
@@premasusai6972 No. I support Ukraine. I am India.
me seeing the title
also me: yes
me realising what he means: no
me after watching the video : yes
*Yes*
Wam25 no
@@shaynem5580 *Yes*
No
J perm make me go yes.
“You could, but why, why would you do that” 😂
Just for fun 😆
why would you say "why" twice
TukeCS mate it’s a Jon Tron quote you uncultured swine
TukeCS why why would you say “why why” twice
@@meenahh *comma
Reduction to 2x2 is my favorite way of slow solving a 4x4, I do it completely intuitively and don't need to worry about parity. Even the ugly case you got I solve intuitively. After the bottom layer 2x2 blocks are built the top layer 2x2s are built doing nothing more than R'D'RD and turning U and swapping positions of 2x2 blocks.
But if I really feel masochistic I go for a layer by layer solve of the 4x4, first 3 layers are easy, last layer is challenging.
I love you
Layer by layer with commutators [[R,U], 2R] - for wings pseudo-OLL and F2 [[R,U],2R2] F2 for PLL was my own method, when i was beginner, and then it helped me to solve Magic Cube 4D 4^4 (4x4x4x4) without much difficulty (when other used reduction). I just use macros with these comms.
@@infiniteplanes5775lol
tysm bro i couldnt be bothered to remember all the parity algorithms but when i got a 2x2 case on the 4x4 and then solved it for the first time and i knew what i was doing i had to see how to do this since i can solve 2x2 averagely under 8-10 seconds tyyy-and used to remember how to solve the mirror 2x2 😂
Fun fact : solving a rubik's cube, no matter how big it is, is reducing it to a 1x1x1
Its not funny fact tbh
@@Ahmed-qc3bh It's not a funny fact because it's a fun fact. Learn to spell smh
@@wongcayven9893 well it's not a fun fact either tbh, it's obvious. Learn to not be dumb smh..
@@wongcayven9893 same goes for you
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me who reduces it to a 1x1: don't ever use the word "smart" with me
@lord z00mer yes, you just got the joke
nruh
the 1x1x1 is impossible tho, so many hard maneuvers
Idk how to solve a already solved cube
Hm yes
Nobody:
J perm during quarantine:
Unique Baconhair Please no covid-19 or quarantine jokes thanks
@@imnotfuckingusingthisaccou2574 You mean,
'Sars coV -2' ?
@@misam5234 Greeting , my dear bacon Robloxian .
@@heshw3277 You like dead memes. Pathetic.
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The YuXin animals are watching in the background wondering what is happening.
They like it because they are all 2x2s
@@JPerm hahahaha
J Perm 😃
@@JPerm What do you give them to eat??? Weight 5 lubricant or Martian?
@@chessbitz6846 Weight 5
If you only solve 3 "corners" instead of a whole layer, it is much easier.
Yeah i was thinking the same thing. If you leave a slot, you can intuitively solve 3 of the top corners, so you would have 2 unsolved pieces left. Then you could develop algs for solving those two pieces
@@aryansingh2199 Superantoniovivaldi actually has a video on a bandaged 4x4 that's has 2x2 pieces stuck together and he shows how to do it fully intuitively
That's a good idea, i didn't think of it!
It wasn't until after I recorded the video that I thought to check if other people had done this before, and I saw a few videos showing how to do it better than I did 😅
Hi
@@JPerm oops
12:33 most epic music change ever
Jperm:
the first 2x2 corner: easy
the second 2x2 corner: easy
the third 2x2corner: medium
Last 2x2 corners: too hard
No its easy
I aolved it without knowing anything
@TheTrooper spelling literary has nothing to do with solving you vegetable
I’m losing so many brain cells watching Jperm doing this lmao
why dont you watch cubing fails
Bitu Pal oh boy
If there is a WCA Event called 4x4 FMC THen we can use this method AKA Dylan Wang method
Yeet s Deetus 𝚒𝚖 𝚞𝚜𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚊 𝚝𝚢𝚙𝚎𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛
I’m using a ş̶̡̢̨̡̢̧̡̢̛̛͉̭̭̘̗͙̬̳̩̪̱͓̠͍͙̖̖͓̠̖̼͖͇̩̞̜̻͔͍͈̟̝͎̤̜̰̘̗̖̳͚̪̪͎̳̦̮̮͖̦̤̜̞̺̟̣̺̻͉̩̮͎̜̳̬̬̫̩̲̲̜̞̫͕̥͖̮̖̗̩̥̺͉̗̭̜̰̘̫̋́͛̒͒̄̂͐͋̎̏͂̽̓̊̍͌͌͌͊͐̏̈̊̋̆̉̉̇̎̓̌̇̊͑͌̈̓̊͛̍͐̀̈͒̆̈́͆̐̃̍́̎̇̈͌̿́̀̿͛̾̈́͋̀͌̾͌̐̑͒͂̀̋̎̔̽̐̊̌̇̃̐̆̅͒̍̋̓̀͒̃̈́̂͂̒̔͊͋̅̒̑̈́̀̊̒̋̅̋͋̔́͆̈́̂̍̄̚̚̚̚̚͘͘͘͜͜͝͝͝͠͝͝͝͠͝͠͝͝͝͠͝͝͠ͅͅͅͅp̸̨̨̡̢̨̢̢̨̨̛̛̛̟̭̮̭̟̞̬̟̠̮̺̥͚̺̰̙̳͎̣̙̲̜̺͇̮̲͕͕̺̬̟̳̺̪͖̥̞̘̪̣̟͎̱̣̲̲͚̻͔͇̝̣͎͚̲̠̖͙̰̹̘̖̠̗͓̱̻̜̝̤̱̥̳̹̫̻͔̞̤͎͍͍̮̻̯͓͉͙̝̗͕̱͚̺̟̠͆̓͌̑̈́̀̏̐̀̔͐́͆̅̐͛͋́̅̔̾̓̂͆͆̑͒̍̐̒͗̆͛̃̊́̆̍͗̊̔̓̇̑̈͆̉͗̈́͂̈͗̈́̋̀͂̑̈́̽̌̆̾̓́̑̊̂̈́̈̋̐͌̊̀̿̀͒͋̿̿̇̋̿̓̒̐̾̋̆͐̍̉͗̿́̀̈́̃̐̏̆͗̏̓͗̇̅̑̋͛̿̋̌͐̑̀̀̆̈́͋̓͂͆̊̾̅̏͊̑̅̏̄́̀̓͋̎͐̃́̎̀̆̆͂̌͌͊̐͑̽̏̾̊̄̈̿͌́͌͂̑̊̓͋̐̔͐̎͌̄̅̅͛̈́̈́̃͌̈́̅͂̾̅̍̇̿̍́̏̅̔̈̂͌̈́̈̒̍͐͐̐͒͗͐͂͊̏̉͋̎͌̿͑́̽̈̀́̓͌͊͐͐̀̀̇́̋̈̓̅͗̋̈͌͗̈̇̓͒̋̕͘͘͘̕͘̕̕̕̚͘̕̚̕͜͝͠͝͝͝͝͝͝͝͠͝͝͝͝ͅờ̴̛̛̛̗̞̪̆͐́̄͋̒͋̀̌͋̅̅̄̌̍̂̎̎̎́͋̉̑̀̈́̓̑̎̈́͋̂͗̆̐́̎̔̌́̄͐͆͂̂̏̉͆̔̓̅̌̾͋́̅̈́̄̽̆́̿̈́͛̌͐̏͑͑̊̂̏̀́̆̑̓̊̋̄̈́̂͌̀̒̔͑̆͗̔̆̆͆̒̀̄͐̈́͘͘̚̚͘̚̚̕͠͝͠͝͝͝͠͝͝͝ở̵̡̧̢̢̨̧̡̧̢̢̢̧̧̡̧̨̧̡̡̧̡̡̧̨̨̡̢̡̛̛̛̛̙̬̳͎̠͚̺̠̦̩̝̟̫̩̪̦͉̠̹̻͎̫̳̝̰̮̫͓̭͕̮̙͎̦̘̻̬̖̜̠̦̰̜̝̱͙͙̘̺͖͔̯̘̪̫̱͕̯̞͇̝̝͖̝̗̭̭̘̟̫͇̬̫̫͎̖̜̮̬̳̻̰̯͔͉̦̥̞̩͎͉̪̠̲̩̪̤͍̟̗̳̝̮̜͕̝̙̤̫͓̩̘͓̤̫̗̖̳̫̰͎̹͍̠̝̹͔̝̗̫̠̯̻͈̗̥̤̼͈͓̣̪̥͍̦̺̝̯̩͕̪̜̱̖̹͚̹̗͔̟͍̮̳̹͇̭͎̺̞̥̻̯̤͈̻͎̝̎́̈͊͒͒͂̿̈́̇̀̈́̾͑̊͌̃̋̌͌̇̎̈́͋̀̽̊̔̀̅̓́̏̀̒̊͛̾͂͆͒̇̃̋͌́̆̒͗̄̎̈̓̒̓́́̈́͆͆̓̽́̃͊̃̉̾́͊̌̃̓͆̎͌͛͗̾̑͗̿̀̍̎͐̐̐̄̋͑̈̓̇̇̓̆̔̄̎͑́̈́̈͋̅̑̊̿̄̿̈͛̈́̾͆͌̉̈́̀̀͛̌̓̊̽͋̔̎̀̇͒͂̃̓͊̔̇́͌͐̏̊̐̾͆̓͋̒̓͋̔̔̾̃͐̆͑̎̒̄̀̋̂͋̑̿̓̊͊̿͛̀͛̈́́̋͋͘̕͘̕̚̕͘̚̚̚̚͘̕̚̕̕͜͜͜͠͠͠͝͠͠͝͝͝͠͝͝͝͝͝͠͝͝͠͝͝͠ͅͅͅn̸̡̨̧̧̨̢̛̛͓̱͎͚͕̜͕̟̝͓̯̻̙͇͈̺͎͕͎̻̭̳͕̞͖̗̣̙̞̖̜̲̖̈́̑̊̌͌̇͂̒̋̄͗̈́̄̎̈͒̿̐̾̅̓̐̓̋̄͊̀̂̄͛̉̃͑̅̏̂̉̽͒́̀̓͆͒͆́̒̄̉͋̈́̉̃̔̓̓̀̿̓͗̾͆͂̋͌͐̾̃̓̃͌͗̌͊͗̓̾͗͑̈́́͊̾̾̈́̎͐͆̃͑́̓̔̔̽̃͒͐̈̉̂̀̽͒̿̎̓̽̂̀͂̍̊̇͂̈́̎̽̉̍̄͛̒͛́͐̄̀̽̀̽͐̈̂̔̀̑̓͛͆̑̅͗̏̐̆̈́̒̀͗́̀̇͗̏̈́͌̒̍̆͛̉͋̑̀̀̃͆̃͐̌̅͊̀̔͛͋́͐͗͑̔̇͊̀̿̌̇̿͌̊͛͆͗͂͗̋̂̀̔̒̂̽͌̏̍̏̃̋̓̓̂̄͌͑͋̍̈́͌̐͆̈́͌͐̃͊̾̾̐̏̽̏̈́̽̈̚̚͘̕͘̚̚͘̕̚͘̕̕͘͘͘̚͜͝͝͝͝͝͝͝͝͠͝͠͝͠͝͠͝͠͠͝͝͠͝
Like you said, instead of reducing to 2x2 it's instead possible to solve the pieces into correct spots right away, one by one. The resulting method would still be a bizarre and laborious 4x4 layer by layer with unnecessary piece order restrictions. You did it the hard way, congrats.
Omg, I did this, me and my bro were doing a 2x2 race, bit we only had one 2x2 so we mixed the 4x4 as if it was a 2x2, wide moves only 🤣
KaiQubz YT why didn’t u just solve it like a 4x4 then do a wide move only scramble?
MrSushiMaker29 oh oops
YAS
Lol
@@vinishoos9190 he literally said that's what he did
I'm really glad you got pairty in the solve, even though it is a pain, if you lucked out and it didn't happen then it would have still been a mystery about whether it occurs at all. Now we know.
Thank you for your contribution to SCIENCE!
Omg!!! After 2 fails, I tried to do it again with your help and it worked! I was having a hard time doing commutators and doing the final piece, but I still managed to do it in the end. Even if its a tutorial or not, you still helped me bro! Thank you!!!
Me: starts doing an intuitive commutator
Jperm: *I thought you were solving intuitively*
Exactly, I would too consider commutators intuitive.
Oops, I meant like more intuitively than that, like blockbuilding haha. Each commutator is very intuitive, but the concept of commutators as a whole is less intuitive in the sense that it's really hard to figure out on your own.
Hey J Perm can you please make a proper "how to plan your whole cross" because i have watched all of your cross tip videos and you say that i should plan it out during inspection but i really struggle with it . I cant memorise my plan i would love some tips for memorization! ♥
Same
J perm: Teaches us how to use Hoya,Yau and Redux.
Next day, he teaches us solving it using this 2x2 method.
Me: Which one should I learn?
Next day, J perm: Let me teach you another method.
2x2
2x2 it's the quickest
The 1x1 method then you solve it like a 200x200 because it’s easier
Regardless of the inefficiencies I think this was very interesting. I think more of us should get to know cube theory and veer away from the algorithms.
who else has solved a 5x5 layer by layer with no help using millions of commutators
J Perm thank you for continuing to make amazing content. You are definitely my favorite cuber channel, and my favorite PLL as well!
Omg! You went about that the hard way. But congrats!
I like to use this method on a megamorphix puzzle.
Using 2x2 R'D'RD moves in the last half(layer by layer in the first half) to pair edges with centers moving them around hideing them in the top layer.
Sometimes you need a corner swap for the final 2 corner groups... this is a good process for the AI bandaged 4x4 cubes
To fix parity you simply use false equivalency of centers to correct.
Answer: You can but you shouldn’t because you’re not pairing up/solving the same type of piece so it’s harder to see what you’re doing therefore it’s slower
Rubix cube nerd
Logan Dolphin oh no it’s u
Logan Dolphin
wow using logic is so nerdy :o
Almost as if I (a new cuber) can understand that!
Shrekeroni it was a joke. I know him irl
Airdan Nguyen Are you Vietnamese
Me: "I guess he will scramble it like a 2x2 and then solve it."
Him: Scrambles it like a 4x4, turns it into a 2x2 and Then solves it.
Me: "High IQ you've got right there man🧐"
i just ordered several different rubik's cubes, and the 4x4 cube is a part of that order. And watching this made me just confuzzled in many ways(Yes, I had to look up a word for how I felt). But I'm excited. I'll try to solve it on my own, I'm sure that I will have to look up the method to solve it on TH-cam, and I'll for sure look at one of your videos to solve the cube if i can't solve it on my own. And I do have nearly four months of experience with a 3x3 cube.
Can we just appreciate the torture he he went through for 15 minutes of our entertainment
It's longer than that. We don't see the behind the scenes
@@zeyy84 lol yeah
J perm sounds like the mammoth from ice age
What?
Wow
apoiador de lobos oh god don’t please
Tomorrow: New faster 4x4 method: 3 minute full tutorial. Be sub-20
for the center swap you could do the 5x5 center swap alg
I tried this once too although I did it a different way and like you said, you get to a certain point and realize how pointless it is. If you are manually placing specific pieces in specific places, you might as well just put them where they belong. The way I did it was a more brute force method where I solved it like a 4x4 supercube where I assigned a specific corner to each corner position based on where the corners were at the beginning of the solve. In the first stages of solving the centres I had to do it without shifting any of the corner's relative positions or rotations because those were my reference points. Once I finished the centres I used them as my new anchors. It was such a pain because if you accidentally rotate one of the centres it is really hard to notice until it's too late.
Can you solve the 4x4 like a 2x2?
*JPerm* : Well yes, but actually don't
solving a 4x4 by Yao method: *this man's pro*
solving it by moving pieces in random: no.
solving it by reducing the full thing to a 2x2: yEs, WhY nOt
next challenge for JPerm: solve 4x4 by reducing to 5x5
Sudipa Chakravarty ?
@@mattcraft5012 it's a joke idot
Maddie Seidel You're The Idiot And The Commenter As Well, Jokes Should Also Make Sense Otherwise They're Just BS
Anshuman Agrawal no no you are the biggest idiot because it IS a joke
And then 3x3 lmao
4:44 wait then every time I do f2l on 4 by 4 I am actually doing f3l...
I don’t have a 4x4 but I want one because I have so many other cubes and I was thinking about it and I was like how do you do f2l and then I thought wait it’s f3l
@@taguit3661 I have a 6x6 but I can’t solve a 4x4 😂😂😂
What?
If you’re willing to spend 1000 dollars you can do f18l 😂😂
@@antoniomolina3612 or if you happen to be the 1 person in the world who has it **F32L**
dylan: ill do this "intuitively"
also dylan: nah i'll use a commutator
Hey J Perm just wanted you to now you are a great example to follow your tips and vids are super useful and I have been improving thanks to you your the best. Hope everyone who reads this have a wonderful day full of blessings✨
Ok guys if you want to know the tutorial is gonna be out tomorrow and the sub 1 tutorial next
Literally yesterday my brother (non-cuber) asked me:
wouldn't it be a nice method for a 4x4 to reduct it to a 2x2 and then solve it like a 2x2?
I almost died when u uploaded this :D
i "made this method" when i first learned to solve a 4 by 4, i called it 4tega (say it if you dont understand)
MrCakeMan3 what do you mean?
@@hugopaalman6991 he alredy solved the cube using this method, 4tega means ortega method(the 2x2 method) but in a 4x4 cube
@@yazanhamod5187 BIG BRAIN
I couldn't understand it
Edit:Thank you!
apoiador de lobos okay boomer
@fire gaming IL. Thanks
years after release, and months after watching it for the first time (before I'd even gotten into cubing) I managed to solve a 4x4 as a two by two myself. It took me like 4 hours, and was pure pain, would recommend!
I don't know why, but whenever I'm watching TH-cam late at night, I always seem to become bored yet not tired. then, I click on one of Dylan's videos and start to close my eyes. Can anyone else relate?
His content is unintentionally soothing, like a teacher with a soft voice to whom you should be paying attention but end up dozing off, not because you aren't interested in what they're saying, but because they naturally blend into the silence
I remember when I got my Rubik's 4x4 (this was was probably around 13 or 14 years ago). It came with a solve guide that taught solving the all of the edges and corners (partially using commutators) first and then solving the centers using commutators. When I got it all memorized, a good solve was probably around 7-8 minutes. Then I got the Rubik's 5x5, and basically applied the same methods, having to come up with something for middle pieces. I think 15-20 was probably around my average then. Long story short that method sucked, and also I never want to touch my Rubik's brand 5x5 ever again.
ur old???
still waiting for that thistlewaite's algorithm tutorial....
Lmao
I feel like with algorithm optimization, and just getting used to it, i feel like it could become a viable strategy.
challenge: solve 5x5 using an alternate reduction method: centers = centers, edges = edge centers and edges, and corners = wings, corner centers, and corners. Basically 1x1 centers, long, skinny edges, and giant corners.
This was honestly one of the most entertaining videos ive seen in a while. Great video!
"He will soon regret saying this" had me literally ROFL 😂
Cubing companies:
Gan=Apple
MoYu=Samsung
QiYi=Huawei
YJ=Xiaomi
Yuxin=Lenovo
RubiksBrand=Nokia
alnek mamasioulas so true
Just one thing. GAN are good and apple is... not.
@@ezdor8877 Apple is good... But sometimes you can't get same features but for *much much* cheaper price...
Yuxin is Xiaomi actually...
LMAO this is scarely accurate
wth i was literally thinking about this yesterday
jperm can read my mind ?!
Great mind thinks alike
@@randomnessuke9832 nah he’s a robot
Jperm has officially gone insane during quarantine this is the best method
It actually was worth it in exercising problem solving skills vs just knowing algorithms. Keeps skills sharp
Hey JPerm, I love this question and you did a lot of the same things that people usually do when they start out with it.
I actually created a 2x2 reduction method for 4x4 a couple years ago that I still use to speed solve to this day. I still haven't finished the method, but here is a video of me using my method and getting a 1:07 pb with a 2x2 reduction method.
th-cam.com/video/qUVaWMzhJjo/w-d-xo.html
Wow cool
Who is watching this while sitting home and staying safe from the coronavirus?
I mean technically we reduce to a 1x1
my first 4x4 comes in tomorrow, i'm pretty excited. I'm familiar with solving 3x3 and i've heard people say after the centers of the 4x4 you solve it like a 3x3 but the concept is going over my head by just looking at it. Maybe it'll make more sense when I have it in my hands.
I had to delete a comment on another video because I was saying you should try this as a challenge and didnt realise you actually did it lol
"He Will soon regret that" j Perm 2020
Superantoniovivaldi has a great video on how to do this! He shows how he solves a 4x4 with bandaged pieces that make 2x2 pieces if it makes sense, his video is really great and his method is intuitive
i actually always wondered if you could.
Excellent video. I've always wondered this myself. You've got a new well-deserved subscriber. :)
I find it fun to scramble a 4×4 like a 2×2, then scramble that like a 3×3. Now I have a way to make a 4×4 into a 2×2 using only 3×3 algorithms. It's still challenging but it's not as complicated as turning a randomly scrambled 4×4 into a 2×2
Next vid: solving a 9x9 like a 3x3
Solving a 24x24 like a 12x12 like a 6x6 like a 3x3
Me after seeing the title:
Well no,but actually yes
nice channel
When are you gonna post your next video?
lol
Yesn't
J perm : "solve 4x4 like 2x2 in a minute or hour"
Me : "solve 2x2 in 7 day and 3x3 in 12 day"
I am smort
I solved a 3x3 in 30 mins first try
Definitely a like for the effort! I'm glad to find out what it's like. It doesn't matter if it's useful. Like what's useful about blind solving? The task *is* the puzzle.
9:22 I was trying to understand it and all the sudden he does that move so smooth in 0.001 seconds😂😂😂
When ur early
And there is no funny comments. Wow
cuberty you did it yourself lmao
Tien Trinh ha I subbed to u
Can you solve a 4x4 like a 2x2?
Me: get in the car and let’s find who the frick asked
The reason a 2x2 is hard to make, is because in order to get the cube in a 2 by 2 formation, you need the ability to solve the cube another way, because basically what your doing is trying to get the cube in a certain position, which is the exact same thing as you trying to solve a cube
nice video.. btw i am new on rubik's cube.. i already can solve 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, and pyraminx.. it is really worth it to continue with 6x6 and so on? what next cube should i get? gigaminx? mirrow cube? thanks
Before watching you try to solve it as a 2x2, I assumed it was based upon how you can move pieces around.
You can move the centre pieces around without mixing up already "solved" ones, but that disturbs the edges.
Then you can fix up the edges without distubring the "solved" centre.
I assumed that trying to solve both the centre and the edge and corner at the same time to make the larger corner would be much harder.
There is also the question of if attempting to do so would result in an impossible to solve state due to picking the wrong 2x2 setup.
TH-cam can hear me Bc the other day I was talking to my mom trying to do this and this video pops up in my feed a few days later
Is your mom Jessica Friedrich or something? Who has obscure NxN cube reduction conversations with his mom?
@@wontuserealname8918 lol
how to solve 4x4 like a 2x2
Step 1: mix it up like a 2x2
Step 2: solve it like a 2x2
You’re welcome lol
Who else is solving a 2x2 while watching this
Just me? Ok🤷🏼♂️
I am buying a valk2m while watching
Ru jon10 nice
Learn with Lennon first proper 2x2
me too
Getting lost in a parity alg has consistently been the most anxiety inducing event when cubing
I cringe and grit my teeth whenever I see someone else get stuck
And it's so satisfying to see them finish it
i think a better explanation for why you reduce to a 3x3 is that reducing to a 3x3 is a method that stays consistent and works for any cube size. you cant reduce any cube size to a 2x2 because odd numbers exist, but you can reduce any cube to a 3x3
4x4 Methods:
Redux❌
Yau ❌
Hoya ❌
Wang 💯
i have wanted to know if you could do this ever since i watched jperms video on how to solve 4x4.
Who’s here after watching the “solving the rubiks cube one side at a time
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For the"parity" in the 8th piece, you could just break another edge, flipped then change the orientation of the cycle by making a setup move
If you think about it, for every cube we reduce to a 1x1 stage
Imagine u a judge at a comp who cubes and u just see J Perm doing this and u like “...brotherrr.... are u ok in the brain?”
hEy JpErM wHy DoNt We ReDuCe It DoWn To A 1 x 1?
Who else tried this, failed and then just left the cube on the table?
Same
I thought it would be a beginner method since he mentionned 2x2
Btw i'm an absolute beginner what's the easiest way to learn how to solve 4×4 ?
Me
Mr. JPerm, can you solve a 3x3 by solving the corners like a 2x2 first and then solving the centers and edges? Thanks
Great great....
*Now reduce a 5x5 to a 3x3 but the edges and corners are 2 layers deep*
OMG! That was so fun to watch. Thank you for suffering for us. You are a God. I learned so much and had my mind blown too many times to count... Namaste 🙏🏿
Dylan: “I will not dare to do this ever again.”
Also Dylan: “Today we will be solving and 8x8 like a 4x4 then like a 2x2”
Dylan in the future: “Today I will try solving a 32x32 like a 16x16 then a 8x8 then a 4x4 and last a 2x2”
Dylan at the end of the world: “Today I’m going to solve a 4096x4096 like a….”
Im impressed at your cubing knowledge!
I saw a guy on reddit who has put a lot of effort into this method and gets fairly decent times with it I'm pretty sure he has videos on youtube
I'm getting an 8x8 tomorrow, and last night I watched your video on reducing an 8x8 to a 4x4. I decided to try reducing my 4x4 to a 2x2 before going to this video, and I realized quickly solving it like a 4x4 is far easier and quicker. Not interested in making it more complicated.