@@Static_2opfr dude, we talk about the past. When he was a teen, he clapped vegeta and goku ez. He could destroy the entire solar system with ssj2 (because he was stronger then cell, and he said his kamehameha could)
@@Christ_the_only_way your point is when goku and vegeta went ssj2 and scree they both were stronger that gohan agaisnt cell plus if the kai didnt unlock his potential do you think he could catch up to goku ssj3 no exactly
I assume they rectonned that by Tournament of Power, (TOP) but his base-form is still significantly high! Cause it's called 'Saiyan Beyond God' were Super Saiyan God had absorbed into him, and he didn't need to rely on his transformations, he was too strong by 'Revival Of F'
BraveLittleGamer Actually..ur wrong because Goku Ssj3 was compared to Fat Buu and Gohan Ultimate is compared to Super Buu and obviusly Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu
Gohan’s potential unleashed must have a freaking high multiplier, if he was much weaker than Goku and Vegeta in base form (post cell saga) he easily surpassed SSJ3 without a question and bodied Super buu while Goku said that he couldnt defeat Super buu. Nevermind great video bro!
That was BS, afterwards Goku said he could but wanted to give Gohan and the kids a chance to save the world for once, SSJ3 Goku was able to destroy Kid Buu but wanted to give Vegeta a shot by the time he wanted he already ran out of stamina
don't forget that when Raditz showed up, Gohan already had that hidden power that made him stronger than Raditz when it was actually unleashed. And at that point, Raditz was kicking the shit out of Goku and Piccolo together who had both trained their entire lives. Gohan was only 4 or 5 and had zero training, and his inner power already made him the strongest on earth by far. He just couldn't tap into that power, even when he trained, until the Cell saga when he went SSJ2 before anyone else, and even further when he went Mystic in the Buu saga and surpassed all of the SSJ forms that existed at that time. But yeah, Gohan's inner potential has been there since day 1 of DBZ. 5 year old with no training was the strongest being on earth and had no idea how to tap into the power.
Soooo Super is pretty much saying that Goku and Vegeta obtaining god ki was bs, you know considering both Freeza and Gohan caught up to them with the slightest bit of training when they had been training their entire lives. Yep sounds about right
Gohan and Frieza are talented, with Gohan being more talented than even Frieza. Frieza was hundreds years old back on Namek, and even him as a kid wasn't as strong as Kid Gohan who was able to go toe-to-toe with Frieza's 1st-2nd form (with the help of Krillin and Vegeta, but still....). He completely surpassed final form + Frieza by the end of Cell Saga, and it only took him a bit of time to surpass the power & battle sense he had back in Cell Saga by the end of Buu Saga. In Super, in Moro arc, Goku even said that Gohan has completely passed SSGSS without even having God Ki, nor being able to go SSG or SSGSS to begin with. Even before that, in the manga, he went toe-to-toe with Kefla.
@@King_of_Antisemites Oh no I completely get that but what I'm saying is once Battle of Gods happened and Super Saiyan 3 was completely irrelevant, Goku and Vegeta were in a completely different League and their writers knew that they could not base the entire show solely around those two (Look how GT turned out), So now natural talent is a substitute for God power. Where as in DBZ it pretty much just meant that they could keep up with other super strong people now it means they are able to surpass gods.
@@BattleKid619 well, SS3 was always meant to be an asspull due to the fabs hating it for Gohan to be the new MC. It was made so that Goku would take back the spotlight with his new power. That's why it was so useless and weak. SSG and SSGSS, on the other hand, were meant to be cash cow so that the story can get longer. As for Natural Talent, I agree with you.
2:55 you completely skipped Gohan vs Goku (Pre-NGK) When Gohan went against Goku’s Super Saiyan 2 (Mastered) up to Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10. To note: Gohan in his base form held well against SSJ2 and his Unleashed Potential or Limit Breaker held well against a maxed powered up Goku in his Super Saiyan God Blue Kaioken x10 (even though he still lost). Goku even asked Gohan “why not stack Super Saiyan” (which suggests Gohan can but doesn’t want to because he wanted to find a new power. Additionally as mentioned by the galactic patrol said Majin Buu has God Ki from the Grand Supreme (during Super Buu vs Gohan) while Gohan has none which suggests as a mortal with no God Essence has an unlimited potential (hence: Limit Breaker) could rival the Gods. If Multiplier is still be used my conclusion based on Gohan and Goku’s fight, Gohan’s Unleashed Potential is greater than SSJ3 but weaker than SSG, but based on the nature of latent power, a linear multiplier cannot be applied, because it’s based on training thus a fixed multiplier can’t be used. Hypothetically the Latent Power might have something to due with Saiyans’ Zenkai Boost. Normally with Zenkai Boost the user most sustain a life threatening damage, so the Saiyan Cells kicks into survival mode permanently boosting the power level of the user based on the damage received (again non-fixed multiplier). This could also explain Ultra Instinct because Goku almost died multiple times but his cells are learning and adapting. But in the case of Gohan he is most likely able to freely use Zenkai boost without needing to go Super Saiyan.
I don't even think some of these biased people watched DBZ SSJ3 Gotenks < Super buu < Ultimate Gohan < Buuhan < SsjG Goku People are really just fanboying Gohan that much that they are already becoming ignorant. Ultimate Gohan was already on Par against Goku at SSJ2, in what way do you think he is equal or even stronger than Blue? Gohan just wanted to make Goku use his full power cause Gohan is giving his all that time, this has been stated both in Sub and Dub, hence Goku being the kind guy he is decided to go Blue and Beyond, that's just that simple. If you're telling me he is equal or stronger than Goku Blue, then you are also ignorantly saying that Gohan is also stronger than Base Vegito, base on the analysis from Kefla vs Goku fight. And don't you people go on telling me that Gohan is stronger because he trained, well guess what, so did Goku.
Akira Toriyama said that a super sayan can be stronger than super sayan 2 or 3 if the user has perfect control over it. Also don't agree with the last power lvl for Gohan. Mystic form in the tournament saga seems to be on par with god form. In the end it's up to the writer.
I disagree with this. It’s pretty clear ultimate gohan was always near ssg level to begin with it just wasn’t ever compared until gohan was rusty af and at that point gohan could barely go ss let alone ss2 and ultimate. Once he trained most of dbs and reunlocked it and then got stronger yet it became about ssb level and then beyond during the tournament itself. Some of this was even confirmed by a writer or two on twitter (when compared with 17). I think people just WAY over scale ssg and ssb
Karl Oskar Kängsepp he is only stronger than his sons because they don't have the same mindset and aspirations like goku they don't want to be the strongest person in the multiverse they wanna lead normal lives this ties into the chi chi hate because she wouldn't let goku train Gohan all the time like he does making him stronger like the saying the student becomes the master so he kept becoming rusty leaving Goku(and sometimes Vegta) to save the world even though we see the raw power of Gohan like with Cell and Boujack but the writers of DB are just dangling a false hope above our heads really showing us that Goku isn't as dumb as he may seem because he knows that because chi chi never let's him train his kids (who like Vegta said before returning to earth were predicted to be stronger) he (and sometimes Vegta) are earths only saviors and if Vegeta or Goku were to ever stop the consequences would be dire. Sry for long story tried to make it short happy watching everyone
@@ppnexus2000 no because gohan has more potential than his father goku. And plz don’t say no. These are facts. Watch Dragonball Z. He was even stronger and goku fought more then his son. He just has more potential but didn’t use it 🤦🏽♂️
To the people who said gohan has higher potential than goku. if goku had someone that was already a super saiyan teaching him to fight and transform when he was 11 he would have been a ss2 by frieza and by the androids ss3 you get where I’m going with his power goku was training with humans not knowing what powers he had inside gohan had it laid out on a plate for him he didn’t have to figure nothing out goku paved the way.
Thats a nice power scale but gohan should be a little stronger in Universal saga because he trained hard with piccolo and kicked universe 10 fighter of stage in ultimate from
Base Goku (God Ki) is stronger than Battle of Gods SSJG Goku. Ultimate Gohan in the T.O.P. Arc is around SSJG level at full power. MSSJ Gohan was not stronger than MSSJ Goku, this is obvious.
Since there were no power levels mentioned after the Frieza saga, there are no exact numbers. But at least we can estimate how strong they are relative to eachother. (Not proportionally, just who's stronger at x point in time) Edit: Wait, it was supposed to be proportional? Then it's all wrong.
Gohans potential unleashed only applied to his earlier state in dbz. As we already know Gohan has had his potential unleashed twice now. (old namekian dude and kai) What if it happens a 3rd time?
I really think they should have kept the power level system and refined it over time. When all we have to work on is observation and relativity it really muddies the waters. If you see Super Saiyan Goku fire a kamehameha and destroy a mountain, then you think oh wow he's super powerful he just destroyed that mountain, this is the power of a super saiyan. But then if you see little gohan do the same thing with a masenko, but never see Goku and Gohan fight eachother then you're left to make assumptions like gohan is as powerful as super saiyan goku.
First Dragon Ball, then Dragon Ball Z, and then Super. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are based on a manga, so sometimes they added filler episodes to not catch up to it. If you're going to watch the show, skip the episodes that are filler. To know which ones to skip go to the episode list on animefillerlist.com, which is the most accurate website for that. But since you most likely already know this, I'll tell you something that many people don't know about that website, and that will help you watch the show even if you've already started. With this method you'll be able to judge even more accurately what to skip, which is EXTREMELY important, since there's almost 600 episodes including filler, and many of them are useless. What I'm about to say only works for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z though, so if you've already started Super this is useless for you. Here it is: Whether an episode is filler or not isn't as simple as "manga canon/filler", it's more like a spectrum. -If the website says an episode is "manga canon", don't be fooled. Every Dragon Ball episode added something new to the source material. That improved the anime in some cases, but it made its pacing pretty slow sometimes compared to the original manga. The anime and manga are basically the same, but the manga is faster. To know which chapters a "non-filler" episode is based on, click on the episode's name. But if you don't want to read the manga, just watch those, they're perfectly fine. Just keep the option in mind if you get bored and want to get to the interesting parts faster, and then switch back to the anime. For example, episode 39 is "non filler" according to the website, but in reality only about 70% of the episode happened in the manga. And if you get bored of kid Goku entirely and want to skip to Z right away, read the first 194 chapters of the original manga, and then go to DBZ episode 1 of the anime. -If it says an episode is "filler", and, when you click on it to know which chapters it's based on, it just says "filler" again, then by skipping it you literally won't be missing anything. These are the filler episodes that everyone talks about, but there's another type of filler episodes that no one talks about, and that you can't just skip. -If an episode says "filler", but, when you click on it, the website says that it's based on a manga chapter, then it contains mostly unimportant stuff, but there's also something important for the plot. I know this because the first DB filler i skipped had like 4 lines of dialogue from the manga that I missed. You have two options, you either sit through 20 minutes of filler to get 30 seconds of story, or you read the manga chapter instead, which is much faster. Here is my explanation of how to watch super for when you're finished with Dragon Ball and dragon Ball Z. It gets confusing as well. The first season of Super is based on 2 movies and some notes that the author gave to the anime producers and the manga's new author. The anime and manga are 2 different stories, so "filler" technically doesn't exist.The second season of the anime will be based on the manga, but still be a sequel to the first season of the anime. So if you want to watch Super's anime, ignore the manga completely and just watch it. And if you want to read the Super manga, watch the movies "Battle of the Gods" and "Resurrection F" , and then read the manga. It's technically not necessary to watch the movies before the anime, because the anime also adapts the movies (the manga doesn't), but I suggest you watch them too if you want to watch Super's anime, because they have better animation and pacing than the anime episodes that adapt them. There's only 3 canon Dragon Ball Super movies, the 2 I've mentioned happen before Super, and "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" happens after season 1 of the anime. There's also a ton of Dragon Ball and DBZ movies, but you should only watch those if you really love the old anime. Also, it's okay to ignore Super entirely, because it's worse than Z. I'd still recommend it if you're interested. I wrote this to prevent you from getting bored of it and to prevent you from skipping something that's important. If you have any more questions about how to watch it, ask me. It's really hard to get into the show if you don't know all of this. Don't worry about how I took over an hour and a half to write this, now that I have written it I can copypaste it wherever I want, and potentially make more Dragon Ball fans. Edit: There's also Dragon Ball Kai, (and its sequel, Dragon Ball Kai: The Final Chapters) which is an HD version of Dragon Ball Z (Not Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z) in which there's barely any filler, so watching it you won't need to do all of that stuff that I mentioned for DBZ (which is worth it once you get used to it). The style is a bit different, the music is way worse than the original Z, and there's some good anime-only scnes that they cut out, so it's not just better to the 1980s version in every way. You may choose Kai or Z, Kai is another option if you get bored of Z's slow pace too. Concerning languages, the anime was originally made in Japanese. In Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, the actors are better in Japanese than in English, and in Dragon Ball Super both versions are good. Also, the English version of DBZ has a different soundtrack than the Japanese verion, so you may take that into consideration when choosing sub or dub.
Why? It's pretty much True, Gotenks at ssj3 is much stronger than Goku in the same form but they still had a hard time against buu while Ultimate Gohan beat the sh*t out of him
mastered ss Goku was stronger then mastered ss gohan based on feats since gohan became a bitch n got heat up until he went ssj2 while Goku Actually gave ce a fight
in ultra instinct , i sure power goku not up , like whis say : ultra instinct not up power , him be user have Ability to observe and dodge attacks very well like god , power strength up not much, (whis say)
Nigga wtf Ultimate Gohan fought pretty well against ssjb goku, Goku fucked Gohan up with Kaioken, sure, but base ssjb and ultimate Gohan are almost on par.
I am honestly disappointed because Gohan has goten weaker before in the cell saga he was so strong and majin buu saga Gohan has a ultimate form and he was stronger than ssj3 if he kept train I belive he could be god level
Why did you put base cell games gohan above base goku's cell game and there super saiyain forms it is clearly shown that gokus super saiyain form is stronger than gohans super saiyain form and not the mastered super saiyain either in the cell games nobody had mastered super saiyain not even gohan he just discovered a stronger version of it the next level but not original super saiyain form he unlocked super saiyain 2 but did not master the original super saiyain and super sayain
This is biased like a mug, first off you put SSJ2 Goku weaker than SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Whereas Goku never stopped training, and while Gohan slacked off for 7 years. A bit rusty my ... this version of Gohan is weaker than when he was a kid, and that excludes SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Smh.. then you make base form Gohan, there’s no such thing as Mystic or Ultimate, those are fan made terms. You make Base form Gohan stronger than SSJ3 Goku when it has been proven in DBZ that Goku was the Strongest In The Universe, confirmed by Vegeta in the Buu Arc. And reconfirmed by Master Roshi in Dragon Ball Super Episode 90 Goku vs Gohan. The biasedness just won’t stop.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Gohan blanco injected with despacito2 is the strongest, if you had the slightest idea of what your talking about you wouldn't compare -fucking- SHREK!! with Gohan.
No no no let me tell you that in training in the hyperbolic time chamber Goku and Gohan were either the same power or Goku was stronger (Base form) and mastered ssj Goku was stronger than ssj Gohan because Gohan didn't put up a fight with cell in his fight against cell
saw your "Jiren vs Hakaishins" video. What makes you think Jiren is weaker than Beerus, Liquiir and Geene ? other than that question i have nothing else to say but this:your videos are nice and goodluck in the future
Thanks! And I think that Jiren is weaker than Liquiir, Geene and Beerus because it's only been confirmed that he is stronger than Belmod and the big three seem to be stronger than Belmod because which kind of Hakaishin would want their own people to be stronger than themselves?
Something is wrong that is Super saiyan god should be more than 10 times stronger than gohan in Battle of gods Because after dbz gohan was rusty while goku in Super saiyan 3 was the strongest on earth but in battle of gods we see that super saiyan 3 is nothing against beerus.the latest power scaling tell that Super saiyan 3 goku was 6% of beerus full power.But in super saiyan god we see that he is able to compete with beerus who was using 70% of his power and he was very effective. So if we compare to the power scaling according to beerus full power Super saiyan god should be more than 10 times stronger than super saiyan 3. Means about 12-15 times stronger than ssj3 . So ultimate gohan should be most probably 50% stronger than SSJ3 goku. Means goku in super saiyan god form should be at least 6-8 times stronger than ultimate gohan in dbz but in battle of gods he became rust means he is a lot weaker compared to dbz . So we can say that ssjg goku is about 10 times stronger than gohan in battle of gods . But in this video the power scaling you told . According to that super saiyan god goku is only about 40-50% stronger than gohan . So I am not telling this to complain or embarres you But I just wanna rectify your small mistake so don't mind Overall the video was NYC So don't take my comment on any other way OK
Lol mystic Gohan went toe to toe with super Saiyan blue Goku and told him to fight him at full strength. It took SSB Goku + kaioken x10 to beat mystic gohan
Imagine he would keep up his training as a teen.
He would destroy 💪🏼
You forgot the elder kai unlocked his full potential so how does some one at full potential ger stronger
@@Static_2opfr he got his potential unlocked twice, so maybe his maximum potential keeps increasing
Just a thought
@@Static_2opfr dude, we talk about the past. When he was a teen, he clapped vegeta and goku ez. He could destroy the entire solar system with ssj2 (because he was stronger then cell, and he said his kamehameha could)
@@Christ_the_only_way your point is when goku and vegeta went ssj2 and scree they both were stronger that gohan agaisnt cell plus if the kai didnt unlock his potential do you think he could catch up to goku ssj3 no exactly
Great job man!
thanks bro!
That shit doesn't make sense wdym?
It is a little of
But still
Hilarious power levels. Not even close as right. Now that Gohan is training again we will see how far he can go. No more school holding him back.
That’s why he needs to train with whis for a while to improve his ultimate/mystic form or learn how to tap into a combo of SSG with ultimate combo
@@jordansmith1643 ultimate is stronger than the god forms. He just needs god energy
Base Gohan in Tournament Of Power is much stronger than SSJ Gohan in Resurrection of Frieza Saga
Keep up the work but need more information
2:30 ok that makes sense ssb is only a little bit stronger then base goku. *claps*
iNuTtyNinJa KOA God Ki Duuuuhhhhh
Its a Little difference because the ssj Blue form he showed was from revival of f and the base goku was from the tournament of power
2:28
I assume they rectonned that by Tournament of Power, (TOP) but his base-form is still significantly high!
Cause it's called 'Saiyan Beyond God' were Super Saiyan God had absorbed into him, and he didn't need to rely on his transformations, he was too strong by 'Revival Of F'
Its false not corrcet
Nice
Gohan hidden potential hasn't been relevant since the buu saga, Let it go, He's not the guy no more
Im pretty sure the first part is wrong, gohan was only more powerfull than goku in ssj2 form, thats why he beat cell.. correct me if im wrong
BraveLittleGamer Actually..ur wrong because Goku Ssj3 was compared to Fat Buu and Gohan Ultimate is compared to Super Buu and obviusly Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu
Oscar Eugenio Mendoza Rodriguez oh yeah i forgot about that thanks
BraveLittleGamer No Problem
he was talking about the cell saga
Gohans ssj2 is stonger than ssj3
Gohan’s potential unleashed must have a freaking high multiplier, if he was much weaker than Goku and Vegeta in base form (post cell saga) he easily surpassed SSJ3 without a question and bodied Super buu while Goku said that he couldnt defeat Super buu. Nevermind great video bro!
Thanks bro!
And yeah, it was a massive multiplier considering he was much weaker than SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta
That was BS, afterwards Goku said he could but wanted to give Gohan and the kids a chance to save the world for once, SSJ3 Goku was able to destroy Kid Buu but wanted to give Vegeta a shot by the time he wanted he already ran out of stamina
Batman The Dark Knight That was fat buu and not super buu, Goku stated himself that he couldnt beat super buu and yes Super buu > kid buu.
FCBrock 101 Kid buu is stronger than Super Buu... Super buu (mystic Gohan/gotenks) > kid buu
don't forget that when Raditz showed up, Gohan already had that hidden power that made him stronger than Raditz when it was actually unleashed. And at that point, Raditz was kicking the shit out of Goku and Piccolo together who had both trained their entire lives. Gohan was only 4 or 5 and had zero training, and his inner power already made him the strongest on earth by far. He just couldn't tap into that power, even when he trained, until the Cell saga when he went SSJ2 before anyone else, and even further when he went Mystic in the Buu saga and surpassed all of the SSJ forms that existed at that time. But yeah, Gohan's inner potential has been there since day 1 of DBZ. 5 year old with no training was the strongest being on earth and had no idea how to tap into the power.
Soooo Super is pretty much saying that Goku and Vegeta obtaining god ki was bs, you know considering both Freeza and Gohan caught up to them with the slightest bit of training when they had been training their entire lives. Yep sounds about right
Gohan and Frieza are talented, with Gohan being more talented than even Frieza. Frieza was hundreds years old back on Namek, and even him as a kid wasn't as strong as Kid Gohan who was able to go toe-to-toe with Frieza's 1st-2nd form (with the help of Krillin and Vegeta, but still....). He completely surpassed final form + Frieza by the end of Cell Saga, and it only took him a bit of time to surpass the power & battle sense he had back in Cell Saga by the end of Buu Saga. In Super, in Moro arc, Goku even said that Gohan has completely passed SSGSS without even having God Ki, nor being able to go SSG or SSGSS to begin with. Even before that, in the manga, he went toe-to-toe with Kefla.
@@King_of_Antisemites Oh no I completely get that but what I'm saying is once Battle of Gods happened and Super Saiyan 3 was completely irrelevant, Goku and Vegeta were in a completely different League and their writers knew that they could not base the entire show solely around those two (Look how GT turned out), So now natural talent is a substitute for God power. Where as in DBZ it pretty much just meant that they could keep up with other super strong people now it means they are able to surpass gods.
@@BattleKid619 well, SS3 was always meant to be an asspull due to the fabs hating it for Gohan to be the new MC. It was made so that Goku would take back the spotlight with his new power. That's why it was so useless and weak. SSG and SSGSS, on the other hand, were meant to be cash cow so that the story can get longer.
As for Natural Talent, I agree with you.
@@King_of_Antisemites yeah I completely agree I just personally don't like the way super took the series.
The bars should be much more of a dramatic difference, but other than that the vid is pretty accurate
2:55 you completely skipped Gohan vs Goku (Pre-NGK) When Gohan went against Goku’s Super Saiyan 2 (Mastered) up to Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10. To note: Gohan in his base form held well against SSJ2 and his Unleashed Potential or Limit Breaker held well against a maxed powered up Goku in his Super Saiyan God Blue Kaioken x10 (even though he still lost). Goku even asked Gohan “why not stack Super Saiyan” (which suggests Gohan can but doesn’t want to because he wanted to find a new power. Additionally as mentioned by the galactic patrol said Majin Buu has God Ki from the Grand Supreme (during Super Buu vs Gohan) while Gohan has none which suggests as a mortal with no God Essence has an unlimited potential (hence: Limit Breaker) could rival the Gods. If Multiplier is still be used my conclusion based on Gohan and Goku’s fight, Gohan’s Unleashed Potential is greater than SSJ3 but weaker than SSG, but based on the nature of latent power, a linear multiplier cannot be applied, because it’s based on training thus a fixed multiplier can’t be used. Hypothetically the Latent Power might have something to due with Saiyans’ Zenkai Boost. Normally with Zenkai Boost the user most sustain a life threatening damage, so the Saiyan Cells kicks into survival mode permanently boosting the power level of the user based on the damage received (again non-fixed multiplier). This could also explain Ultra Instinct because Goku almost died multiple times but his cells are learning and adapting. But in the case of Gohan he is most likely able to freely use Zenkai boost without needing to go Super Saiyan.
I don't even think some of these biased people watched DBZ
SSJ3 Gotenks < Super buu < Ultimate Gohan < Buuhan < SsjG Goku
People are really just fanboying Gohan that much that they are already becoming ignorant. Ultimate Gohan was already on Par against Goku at SSJ2, in what way do you think he is equal or even stronger than Blue? Gohan just wanted to make Goku use his full power cause Gohan is giving his all that time, this has been stated both in Sub and Dub, hence Goku being the kind guy he is decided to go Blue and Beyond, that's just that simple. If you're telling me he is equal or stronger than Goku Blue, then you are also ignorantly saying that Gohan is also stronger than Base Vegito, base on the analysis from Kefla vs Goku fight. And don't you people go on telling me that Gohan is stronger because he trained, well guess what, so did Goku.
True
He's ssjg goku level
He went against blue with one day of training
Dude why do people take dbs seriously
Akira Toriyama said that a super sayan can be stronger than super sayan 2 or 3 if the user has perfect control over it. Also don't agree with the last power lvl for Gohan. Mystic form in the tournament saga seems to be on par with god form. In the end it's up to the writer.
I want your z power levels (numbers)!😉😊
You do not know how to measure power
@Evan Croom Shut the fuck up
@Evan Croom shut up
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I disagree with this. It’s pretty clear ultimate gohan was always near ssg level to begin with it just wasn’t ever compared until gohan was rusty af and at that point gohan could barely go ss let alone ss2 and ultimate. Once he trained most of dbs and reunlocked it and then got stronger yet it became about ssb level and then beyond during the tournament itself. Some of this was even confirmed by a writer or two on twitter (when compared with 17). I think people just WAY over scale ssg and ssb
Your trying to tell me gohan ultimate was strong than ss3 goku...
BraveLittleGamer he was
He went toe to toe with ssb
Dunno why people always do wrong power levels
gamers tip idk... just shouldn't do it at all.
To get views
They're probably guessing it
gamers tip you haters that's why
Karl Oskar Kängsepp he is only stronger than his sons because they don't have the same mindset and aspirations like goku they don't want to be the strongest person in the multiverse they wanna lead normal lives this ties into the chi chi hate because she wouldn't let goku train Gohan all the time like he does making him stronger like the saying the student becomes the master so he kept becoming rusty leaving Goku(and sometimes Vegta) to save the world even though we see the raw power of Gohan like with Cell and Boujack but the writers of DB are just dangling a false hope above our heads really showing us that Goku isn't as dumb as he may seem because he knows that because chi chi never let's him train his kids (who like Vegta said before returning to earth were predicted to be stronger) he (and sometimes Vegta) are earths only saviors and if Vegeta or Goku were to ever stop the consequences would be dire. Sry for long story tried to make it short happy watching everyone
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Honestly, if Chi Chi let Gohan train after Cell series. Gohan could have been the strongest being in the universe behind the god of destruction.
maybe after goku and vegeta and beerus including all gods and angels.
Did I️ just see teen gohan ssj2 equal 75% of gokus base in the Buu arc? No fam, but ultimate gohan is at least 50% of blue.
50% of blue? nah its 10-20%
@@bazo8275 nah 30 or 39 pourcent
@@bazo8275 but in dbs he kept up with goku until he went supper saiyen blue kaioken
@@Yungwh3te Goku was holding back against Gohan 😑
@@ONIX.TH-cam yh that and just bad writing whats the point of powering up if youre still gonna hold back just go to full power of the form before
Looks about right gohan was gonna be the main character after the cell saga but Creator changed his mind . so explains the huge power ups
like
wtf this dude rides gohan dam
who cares exactly I could tell by the thumbnail he was off
@@pyro9309 how? I think it's accurate. But ui goku should be wayyy higher
Jalal Karimov cause gohan bar should be lower or goku should be higher (like you said.)
@@pyro9309 ahh I thought you wanted gohan to be higher. You'd be full tripping then 😂
@@ppnexus2000 no because gohan has more potential than his father goku. And plz don’t say no. These are facts. Watch Dragonball Z. He was even stronger and goku fought more then his son. He just has more potential but didn’t use it 🤦🏽♂️
To the people who said gohan has higher potential than goku. if goku had someone that was already a super saiyan teaching him to fight and transform when he was 11 he would have been a ss2 by frieza and by the androids ss3 you get where I’m going with his power goku was training with humans not knowing what powers he had inside gohan had it laid out on a plate for him he didn’t have to figure nothing out goku paved the way.
Would base goku be stronger than ultimate gohan if he had his potential unlocked by elder kai
Yes
Nope
@@Anvaya24 are you dumb
Thats a nice power scale but gohan should be a little stronger in Universal saga because he trained hard with piccolo and kicked universe 10 fighter of stage in ultimate from
Since your name is SSj2 I'm assuming you like Super Saiyan 2
Why did the music stop it was good
Nice nice true true
No one can be better tha GOKU
Base Goku (God Ki) is stronger than Battle of Gods SSJG Goku. Ultimate Gohan in the T.O.P. Arc is around SSJG level at full power. MSSJ Gohan was not stronger than MSSJ Goku, this is obvious.
BladeX Multiple times was it stated by King Kai, Goku and Gohan himself that SSJ Gohan was stronger than SSJ Goku.
Gohan is not as strong as super Saiyan God he no where near it before or after full power he tie it but 50 and still not be at ssg
The whole powerlevels are soo wrong
Funny how people skip to UI goku in order to say that gohan wouldn't be stronger than ssg goku
He is getting ssj4 & ssj5 in next db canon series
Wym
SSJ GØD wym
uh, if teen gohan ssj is stronger then goku ssj how come he wasn't putting up a fight with cell?
let me get this straight ur telling me base gohan is stronger than base goku or did u fuck that up cuz u kept base goku in the next part
Wrong it is wrong
Gohan was giving a fight of equal when goku was in blue
Lakshay Kirar no he was not that was barely even a fight kid
Goku wasn't using all his power.
He was as strong as base Goku (God Ki) or may be even weaker.
goku wasn't even trying in that friendly fight
You all are gokutards. Why tf did you think Gohan made Goku go Kaioken Blue?... dumbasses.
Gohan Base > Goku Base
Mystic Gohan >/= Goku Blue
As a super saiyan gohan was not stronger than goku in the cell saga watch the show
Yes he was he was just scared to fight and by the time he wasn’t he was ssj2
Rewatch the hyperbolic time chamber training
Yay
why is ultimate gohan so much weaker the SSB goku when goku had to use king kais fists to beat him
Pizza Pudding he did not need kaioken, but gohan wanted him to
They were sparring. Gohan wouldn't stand a chance otherwise.
Goku used the king kai'S Fist because Gohan wanted him to use it.
Goku could easyly beat Gohan Ultimate.
Ultimate Gohan is stronger than ssj 3 Goku
Huh, ridiculous
nguyen cloud confirmed by Akira Toriyama. Unless we include movies maybe he would be stronger
Ultra Instinct is someone in base form with abilities.
Are u fucking dumb bruh. UI is not base form😂😂😂😂😂
@@siraj_jr_ ur so funny imagine replying to a comment from 3 years ago cringe
And gohan calvo or gohan blanco
2:02
This man said that ultimate Gohan is 65% of Ssjg in the movie, are you making this up?
Ultimate Gohan could wreck Buu tho.
@@walaba7038 buu is nothing to ssjg
@@walaba7038 SSJG one shots buu lmao
@@KingSavage15807 keep in mind I made this comment 9 months ago
@@walaba7038 keep in mind that doesn’t matter
Ghohan best na please like it
Bro ultimate gohan is on tier with maybe super saiyan 3 but it can't fight ultra instinct LET ALONE an actual formation of ultra instinct aura
Like father, like son
Since there were no power levels mentioned after the Frieza saga, there are no exact numbers. But at least we can estimate how strong they are relative to eachother. (Not proportionally, just who's stronger at x point in time)
Edit: Wait, it was supposed to be proportional? Then it's all wrong.
2:30
There's one thing wrong bout this how could mystic be more powerful than God. Doesn't make sense
True
Gohans potential unleashed only applied to his earlier state in dbz. As we already know Gohan has had his potential unleashed twice now. (old namekian dude and kai) What if it happens a 3rd time?
Is ui goku all ready shown at 2017? Because this video is mad at 2017
Aldrine Pasco the poster was released in 2017 it was shown in 18
I really think they should have kept the power level system and refined it over time. When all we have to work on is observation and relativity it really muddies the waters.
If you see Super Saiyan Goku fire a kamehameha and destroy a mountain, then you think oh wow he's super powerful he just destroyed that mountain, this is the power of a super saiyan. But then if you see little gohan do the same thing with a masenko, but never see Goku and Gohan fight eachother then you're left to make assumptions like gohan is as powerful as super saiyan goku.
Not to mention base form freiza could destroy any planet without effort
If I want to watch all the dragon ball shows what order should I do them in?
First Dragon Ball, then Dragon Ball Z, and then Super. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are based on a manga, so sometimes they added filler episodes to not catch up to it. If you're going to watch the show, skip the episodes that are filler. To know which ones to skip go to the episode list on animefillerlist.com, which is the most accurate website for that.
But since you most likely already know this, I'll tell you something that many people don't know about that website, and that will help you watch the show even if you've already started. With this method you'll be able to judge even more accurately what to skip, which is EXTREMELY important, since there's almost 600 episodes including filler, and many of them are useless. What I'm about to say only works for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z though, so if you've already started Super this is useless for you. Here it is:
Whether an episode is filler or not isn't as simple as "manga canon/filler", it's more like a spectrum.
-If the website says an episode is "manga canon", don't be fooled. Every Dragon Ball episode added something new to the source material. That improved the anime in some cases, but it made its pacing pretty slow sometimes compared to the original manga. The anime and manga are basically the same, but the manga is faster. To know which chapters a "non-filler" episode is based on, click on the episode's name. But if you don't want to read the manga, just watch those, they're perfectly fine. Just keep the option in mind if you get bored and want to get to the interesting parts faster, and then switch back to the anime. For example, episode 39 is "non filler" according to the website, but in reality only about 70% of the episode happened in the manga. And if you get bored of kid Goku entirely and want to skip to Z right away, read the first 194 chapters of the original manga, and then go to DBZ episode 1 of the anime.
-If it says an episode is "filler", and, when you click on it to know which chapters it's based on, it just says "filler" again, then by skipping it you literally won't be missing anything. These are the filler episodes that everyone talks about, but there's another type of filler episodes that no one talks about, and that you can't just skip.
-If an episode says "filler", but, when you click on it, the website says that it's based on a manga chapter, then it contains mostly unimportant stuff, but there's also something important for the plot. I know this because the first DB filler i skipped had like 4 lines of dialogue from the manga that I missed. You have two options, you either sit through 20 minutes of filler to get 30 seconds of story, or you read the manga chapter instead, which is much faster.
Here is my explanation of how to watch super for when you're finished with Dragon Ball and dragon Ball Z. It gets confusing as well.
The first season of Super is based on 2 movies and some notes that the author gave to the anime producers and the manga's new author. The anime and manga are 2 different stories, so "filler" technically doesn't exist.The second season of the anime will be based on the manga, but still be a sequel to the first season of the anime. So if you want to watch Super's anime, ignore the manga completely and just watch it. And if you want to read the Super manga, watch the movies "Battle of the Gods" and "Resurrection F" , and then read the manga. It's technically not necessary to watch the movies before the anime, because the anime also adapts the movies (the manga doesn't), but I suggest you watch them too if you want to watch Super's anime, because they have better animation and pacing than the anime episodes that adapt them. There's only 3 canon Dragon Ball Super movies, the 2 I've mentioned happen before Super, and "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" happens after season 1 of the anime. There's also a ton of Dragon Ball and DBZ movies, but you should only watch those if you really love the old anime.
Also, it's okay to ignore Super entirely, because it's worse than Z. I'd still recommend it if you're interested.
I wrote this to prevent you from getting bored of it and to prevent you from skipping something that's important. If you have any more questions about how to watch it, ask me. It's really hard to get into the show if you don't know all of this. Don't worry about how I took over an hour and a half to write this, now that I have written it I can copypaste it wherever I want, and potentially make more Dragon Ball fans.
Edit: There's also Dragon Ball Kai, (and its sequel, Dragon Ball Kai: The Final Chapters) which is an HD version of Dragon Ball Z (Not Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z) in which there's barely any filler, so watching it you won't need to do all of that stuff that I mentioned for DBZ (which is worth it once you get used to it). The style is a bit different, the music is way worse than the original Z, and there's some good anime-only scnes that they cut out, so it's not just better to the 1980s version in every way. You may choose Kai or Z, Kai is another option if you get bored of Z's slow pace too.
Concerning languages, the anime was originally made in Japanese. In Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, the actors are better in Japanese than in English, and in Dragon Ball Super both versions are good. Also, the English version of DBZ has a different soundtrack than the Japanese verion, so you may take that into consideration when choosing sub or dub.
2:12 did gohan just got skinny plz tell me what happend
Stopped training
*_I Think Those Power Levels Are Not True,,_* _JOKE! I dont Thin So!_
1:50 I could tell this was wrong before I got to this point but the second you see this you should know that this is wrong
Why? It's pretty much True, Gotenks at ssj3 is much stronger than Goku in the same form but they still had a hard time against buu while Ultimate Gohan beat the sh*t out of him
incorrect power comparison.
What's NGK? Why would his base form drop so much from god ki?
TG Manry it stands for no god ki
TG Manry so when he’s not using it
TG Manry at least i think
Perfect list
thanks bro!
Why did they make Gohan look like Yamcha in baseform.
mastered ss Goku was stronger then mastered ss gohan based on feats since gohan became a bitch n got heat up until he went ssj2 while Goku Actually gave ce a fight
MUI: am I a joke to you
bro you forgot mystic gohan
yuko alaba bruh ultimate gohan there is no mystic gohan youtubers fans made that shit its only ultimate gohan no ain't mystic shit exist
What is mystic gohan
Ya dumb fuck
Not trying to be mean but in cell saga gohan wasn't stronger than goku til he went ssj2
Gohan fanboy there is no way that base Gohan is stronger than goku lol
Base gohan had a higher power level than base goku when goku was losing to ratitz
Which super sayian 3 was that buu saga or super’s
Limit Breaker, Goku Dragon Ball Z Buu Saga
I dont understand how ssj teen gohan was stronger than ssj goku bc goku could keep up with cell but gohan could not
IT WENTNOUT OF ORDER
in ultra instinct , i sure power goku not up , like whis say : ultra instinct not up power , him be user have Ability to observe and dodge attacks very well like god , power strength up not much, (whis say)
Hello
gohan and vegeta will always be my fav
Nigga wtf Ultimate Gohan fought pretty well against ssjb goku, Goku fucked Gohan up with Kaioken, sure, but base ssjb and ultimate Gohan are almost on par.
No they are not, Ssj2 Goku and Ultimate Gohan are on par
I wish gohan had a form where he fights dragon ball Z de cell
I am honestly disappointed because Gohan has goten weaker before in the cell saga he was so strong and majin buu saga Gohan has a ultimate form and he was stronger than ssj3 if he kept train I belive he could be god level
k yo sepa gohan en su ultima trasformación se llama ( místico )
Interesting how they don’t put the numbers down
Gohan (Rusty+) 😂😂
Why did you put base cell games gohan above base goku's cell game and there super saiyain forms it is clearly shown that gokus super saiyain form is stronger than gohans super saiyain form and not the mastered super saiyain either in the cell games nobody had mastered super saiyain not even gohan he just discovered a stronger version of it the next level but not original super saiyain form he unlocked super saiyain 2 but did not master the original super saiyain and super sayain
This is biased like a mug, first off you put SSJ2 Goku weaker than SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Whereas Goku never stopped training, and while Gohan slacked off for 7 years. A bit rusty my ... this version of Gohan is weaker than when he was a kid, and that excludes SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Smh.. then you make base form Gohan, there’s no such thing as Mystic or Ultimate, those are fan made terms. You make Base form Gohan stronger than SSJ3 Goku when it has been proven in DBZ that Goku was the Strongest In The Universe, confirmed by Vegeta in the Buu Arc. And reconfirmed by Master Roshi in Dragon Ball Super Episode 90 Goku vs Gohan. The biasedness just won’t stop.
Jordan Glasper Exactly
C-17 vs Gohan and Goku please
What about The ultra instinct after the omen one how hair will be white and he will be stronger than the last one you put that is the omen
Ultra instinct goku isn’t that strong, said by whis while ultra instinct goku was fighting kefla, he just dodges automatically
People be saying mystic gohan is the strongest character ever
Makes ultra instincts bar 3 times as long
Me: is mystic gohan still the strongest ;-;?
iNuTtyNinJa KOA Well Gohan Ultimate was the strongest in Dragon Ball Z without counting Fusions
I think in cell saga there ia no one near gohan's energy level right?
Gohan blanco is the most powerful, much more powerful than ultra incstinct could ever be. His power level is = ♾÷♾×♾÷0.
Goku could never reach that.
but its not stronger then mastered ultra instinct
Bald Gohan Blanco is even more powerful. You clearly have no knowledge of DragonBall, fucking pleb!! Challenge me when you're an intellectual like me.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Gohan blanco injected with despacito2 is the strongest, if you had the slightest idea of what your talking about you wouldn't compare -fucking- SHREK!! with Gohan.
Gohan Mystic(TOP MANGA) 50,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJBKX20(TOP) 40,700,000,000,000
yes it makes sense that goku’s full power super saiyan would be less powerful then gohan
Dude
No no no let me tell you that in training in the hyperbolic time chamber Goku and Gohan were either the same power or Goku was stronger (Base form) and mastered ssj Goku was stronger than ssj Gohan because Gohan didn't put up a fight with cell in his fight against cell
Do you believe that gohan couldve defeated evil majin buu? Since it seems like you made his level way higher than goku super saiyan 3. lol
If you watch bu saga than you know mystic gohan is more powerful than ssj 3
@@harshkapil5349 yh that means the the bad writing started a dbz not super
saw your "Jiren vs Hakaishins" video. What makes you think Jiren is weaker than Beerus, Liquiir and Geene ? other than that question i have nothing else to say but this:your videos are nice and goodluck in the future
Thanks!
And I think that Jiren is weaker than Liquiir, Geene and Beerus because it's only been confirmed that he is stronger than Belmod and the big three seem to be stronger than Belmod because which kind of Hakaishin would want their own people to be stronger than themselves?
thank you for your anwser ^-^
SSJ2 Warrior uhh jiren is stronger than some angels so unless beerus and them surpassed the angels then yeah but now no no way
gmoneythegoat lmao he aint stronger then angels dumb head
Gphan is the best because he is more powerful than the age of gohan ,goku was.
Then y in buu saga gohan was didn't called to kill kid buu
Gohan losed his grip in Dragon ball super
Something is wrong that is Super saiyan god should be more than 10 times stronger than gohan in Battle of gods
Because after dbz gohan was rusty while goku in Super saiyan 3 was the strongest on earth but in battle of gods we see that super saiyan 3 is nothing against beerus.the latest power scaling tell that Super saiyan 3 goku was 6% of beerus full power.But in super saiyan god we see that he is able to compete with beerus who was using 70% of his power and he was very effective.
So if we compare to the power scaling according to beerus full power
Super saiyan god should be more than 10 times stronger than super saiyan 3. Means about 12-15 times stronger than ssj3 .
So ultimate gohan should be most probably 50% stronger than SSJ3 goku.
Means goku in super saiyan god form should be at least 6-8 times stronger than ultimate gohan in dbz but in battle of gods he became rust means he is a lot weaker compared to dbz .
So we can say that ssjg goku is about 10 times stronger than gohan in battle of gods .
But in this video the power scaling you told .
According to that super saiyan god goku is only about 40-50% stronger than gohan .
So I am not telling this to complain or embarres you
But I just wanna rectify your small mistake so don't mind
Overall the video was NYC
So don't take my comment on any other way OK
I still call bullshit when it comes to power levels
Lol mystic Gohan went toe to toe with super Saiyan blue Goku and told him to fight him at full strength. It took SSB Goku + kaioken x10 to beat mystic gohan
Keenan Curry Jr no he didn't need that lmao but gohan wanted that goku would go ssb kaioken
Keenan Curry Jr he didn't even use kaioken x10 wtf are you talking about
u gohantards are crazy Goku can most likely beat Gohan in only SSG like he did kale who is equal to Gohan based on feats