How to improve your shaves with the Parker 24C

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  • @tonyhicks2503
    @tonyhicks2503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a shave this morning that was amazing! With my usual two passes my cheeks are super smooth!! And I did this with a razor that I’ve had for years but kept threatening to sell because I really didn’t enjoy using it. Then I watched your video and thought “I’ll give it one last try.” I put a Personna lab blue with one use on it in the 24C and lathered up with basic Proraso white from the tub and paid close attention to razor angle. WOW!! What a great shave! Thank you! The only thing that kept me from getting rid of this razor was the fact I really liked the look and grippiness of the handle. But I didn’t enjoy shaving with it. I assumed that I just didn’t like open comb razors or perhaps the design was inferior … but no! It was just my lack of knowledge and that’s after 8 years of double edged wet shaving. I’m so glad I came across your video. Thanks! New subscriber here.

  • @erichill414
    @erichill414 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just ordered my first DE and it's the Parker 24c. Thanks for the tips on the proper angle to have it at. Most likely I would of used a bad angle and get discouraged.

  • @RobMcCormick
    @RobMcCormick 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very timely Michael - wow, now I clearly see how similar the Parker is to the RazoRock 4P-OC I started with. I think this tip will help immensely. (Along with: no pressure, no repeat passes, always pass through lather.) Enjoy your holidays! ;-)

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rob McCormick And I did, as you well know :-)

  • @paladin252
    @paladin252 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same issue I had with the feather as-d1. Upped the angle and huge improvement. Thanks Michael.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +paladin252 No worries, always glad to help -- let my mistakes help others avoid them!

  • @RickWeber
    @RickWeber 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice update! I use the Parker 24c almost daily. It is my favorite razor, hands-down at the moment. I tend to use the shaving angle you did in your initial review, and I never run into issues with tugging or scraping. I think the blade itself makes a lot of difference. Each manufacturer uses a different bevel angle, which will subsequently require an adjustment of your shaving angle. I typically always use Gillette Silver Blues or Gillette 7 O'clock Permasharp Stainless (India) blades in it, and the shallower angle is perfect in the 24c. Perhaps there's something with the bevel of the Gillette blades and the bend of the 24c. For me, it creates the ideal shave.

    • @rajeshsweet194
      @rajeshsweet194 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ur point about blade bevel angle is spot on

  • @34dawgsgo
    @34dawgsgo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid. I have been shaving for 2 years with a long handle Mekur. For no explained reason I look at my razor and see the comb has completely broken off on one side. So I ordered this Parker and patiently wait its arrival. I know blades are very subjective and I tried the sampler pack. For me my go to blade is the Derby. Thank you and happy shaving.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +34dawgsgo Derby is your go-to blade? Always good to find a blade that works for you. If you like the Derby, try the Personna Red blades, they may also work well for you!

  • @jonathanlewis4077
    @jonathanlewis4077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome bro happy for you bro hang in there

  • @brianb.2894
    @brianb.2894 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Michael. I`m also wondering if you didn`t hold the razor quite so close to the head, more lower on the handle, you would fall into the right angle more easily. Just a thought.

  • @andyrobinson5829
    @andyrobinson5829 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Michael, I have been watcig your videos for quite some time now. I find your videos lacking in hype and full of honest opinion based on your knowledge of shaving. Thanks for your honesty. You have helped me greatly as I continue to improve as a wet shaver. I started with a DE razor 5 - 6 months ago. I bought a RazoRock deep knurled razor.It came with two heads and I really can't tell if they are different. It may even be a "mission head", I'm not sure. I use the weight of the razor to shave my face. usually a three pass shave. I have been getting "good" but not "GREAT" shaves because I experience razor burn from going back over my neck and ,beneath the jaw line too many times.I do this because I can still feel stubble there. I have been using Voskhod blades and feel that my shave has improved but, I am never able to achieve the degree of smoothness on my neck and Adam's apple that I am seeking.
    I am wondering if moving to a more efficient razor would help me. I was thinking about getting a Parker 26C with the black handle and open comb but, I've also seen the "latest rage" from Pheonix in their DOC razor which promises a great shave because you can go back over an area because there is still soap left behind to work with.
    I am curious what your thoughts would be. I realize that you can't tell me what to use but I bet you can shed some light on my situation. With the razor I am currently using I don't feel that it's getting to the beard as it should.
    What do you think.
    Thanks for your opinion, Andy

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Andy Robinson What I might recommend first is to experiment with two things:1. Change the angle of the "across" the grain pass a bit, experiment to see if you can get a closer shave with a different angle of attack. That will help you avoid feeling the need to keep going over the same patch of skin again and again. You may find that a minor adjustment of the angle at which you are coming at the beard hair can have a big impact on your shaves2. Try buffing on your third pass. NO pressure as you do this. Buffing means basically making very small, short, light strokes as you complete the pass. It can make a big difference when trying to get those stubborn spots, and will help again avoid feeling the need to press down hard to get those last bits of hair.Thank you so much for watching and for your comments and feedback, I really appreciate it!

  • @imfredd
    @imfredd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tip! I just wrecked my face with the 26C and never gave the angle a thought...

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the end, I gave away the Parker 24C because I just found the angle unnatural and too hard to maintain. Clearly it can be done, but I did not feel the quality of the shave really made up for the awkwardness.

  • @chesterw3520
    @chesterw3520 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the recommendation ... I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

  • @bwc1976
    @bwc1976 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched this again yesterday and tried using mine (actually the Parker head with the Maggard MR11 handle) again for the first time in months and it feels completely different and better than before! Kind of hard to describe, like mild but almost effortlessly clearing away hairs at the same time. I guess it's kind of hard to directly compare an open comb against a closed, just like it would be hard to directly compare a slant head against either of those. But I feel much more confident using it now, it has finally earned a spot in my regular rotation.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to make this video to correct my previous "mistake" with this razor, and I am glad it helped you restore it to your rotation!
      I found over time, though, that I just never got comfortable with the angle and I passed on the razor to a new "forever home" as they say.

  • @ericburgos
    @ericburgos 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "scrapey angle"
    that got me good, lol.

  • @jello022170
    @jello022170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your awesome review 😀

  • @mattbod
    @mattbod 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting as just ordered one of these on Leisureguy's advice in his book and on the shaving room forum as being the best choice for a new DE shaver. I have an Edwin Jagger DE89 and he told me to try this. It is certainly reasonably priced.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +mattbod just be sure to give yourself a bit of time to adjust to the angle this razor requires, and all should be well. It is a bit heavier than the DE89 as well.

  • @Niamhcotts
    @Niamhcotts 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are spot on with the angle of the razor buddy.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! The funny thing is that holding the razor at that angle feels really unnatural to me and I find it hard to get a good shave, but I did want to make sure people could see the right angle. My initial review of the razor, well, I am just holding it incorrectly.

  • @woohog1
    @woohog1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    the 24c is my go to razor, paired with a feather or Astra blade, it makes short work of the week old stubble.
    I ordered it as my 2nd razor and am glad I did. I find it shaves just as well as me ejde89, paired with the right blade.
    If I want to tone down the shave, I can pop in a derby or shark blde and the 24c can work as a daily shaver as well. Plus the long handle adds a good weight to the razor that keeps me from pulling and actually seems to make it easier to shave vs having to use a lighter weight razor and reminding myself not to pull but the wight allows it to glide.
    I'm glad I bought my 24c, and it will always have a place in my rotation.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +woohog1 Very glad to hear it is working for you! I have to say, though, I have not had good luck with either Derby or Shark blades, but that just means more for you!

  • @owenparratt4537
    @owenparratt4537 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Michael, I'm wondering if it's a Parker thing, I have the same trouble with the 99r, just not so great shaves yet have no problem with any others I have. I'm going to drag that 99r out and change the angle of it out of curiosity. Will let you know the outcome. Thanks again for your Chanel, Owen in New Zealand.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Owen Parratt And? how did it go?Thanks for watching, it is really kind of amazing that people from all over the world watch these videos of me in my bathroom shaving!

    • @owenparratt4537
      @owenparratt4537 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Freedberg lol for sure it's amazing really, I was lucky enough to travel through parts of America in 2012 and loved it, didn't make it to beautiful North Carolina but never say never. I got a better shave with the Parker 99r but not really a fan of. It was the first razor I bought, it looks amazing and heavy with a cool barber pole handle etc so il hold onto it for sentimental reasons. You have to work the razor, the razor doesn't work for you if that makes scenes. My merkur 34c is like a sports car, just zips about with ease. But each to there own. Thanks again for videos, Owen💈

  • @shave-a-thon3415
    @shave-a-thon3415 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike - Are you going to start doing complete 3 pass shaves + touch ups? You're one of the few TH-cam shaving personalities that actually has a heavy growth, so your blade recommendations would carry a bit more weight with guys who have a coarse and thick growth after two days, like myself. It takes quite a bit of work on that touch up pass for a BBS shave.
    My face is shaped like yours, and the sides of the jaw along with the middle part of the neck take a bit of work for a BBS feel. I have to apply lather all the way down my neck. Somehow you managed to avoid my situation with hairs that grow down to the collarbone, hairs on the bridge of the nose, and even fine hairs above the cheekbones.that need to be buffed. I can get much of the hair just below the nose with a DE razor, but for those higher, very hard to get ones, I have to pull out the trusty single edge side of the Gillette Fusion. I'm thinking of purchasing a single edge razor just for that purpose, as it looks like those can get the very hard to reach area around the bridge of the nose.
    You've stated that you don't want to do overly long videos but I don't think anyone would mind. The video could always be advanced. Those who so desire could also use the speed setting.

  • @chrismuldoon2816
    @chrismuldoon2816 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great shave. I have found that I can get fantastic shaves with this razor if I use it every time muscle memory takes over and I get fantastic shaves. However, if I switch to a different razor and come back to this one I have trouble with the angle again. Beginning to wonder if I should try a different open comb due to angle issues. I really like the aggression, length of the handle, and weight of the 24c. Is there a similar open comb that you would recommend? Seems like most open combs are light weight. I don’t care for light weight razors or short handles.
    Thanks

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is such an easy one for me. I would recommend the Fatip Grande/Piccolo open comb over the Parker 24C *immediately* with no hesitation. It's a much better razor, which makes getting consistently great shaves so easy. Get one and I think you will find that the Parker begins to gather dust. I gave mine away and I do not miss it at all.

    • @itsdannyftw
      @itsdannyftw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thoughts on the Fatip Testina Gentile or the EJ De89?

  • @Cfb_edits12
    @Cfb_edits12 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. I have absolutely torn myself up with this razor since graduating from the Merkur HD. New hope:)

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to say, in all seriousness, that I am not sure it is worth the effort to *make* this razor work for you. In the end, the head design and the way you need to hold the razor is, for me, just asking too much when there are so many other excellent options out there. I would, for example, *immediately and without hesitation*, recommend the Fatip Testina Gentile over this razor.
      Don't suffer with this razor if it does not work for you, move on to another razor and you will soon find that you never think of this razor again.

    • @Cfb_edits12
      @Cfb_edits12 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ugh. Well that sucks. I just got it:(

  • @grzesiek92062203815
    @grzesiek92062203815 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    COOL COOL. I had same problem with 24C. Will try that out as soon as posible :D thx 4 help.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did manage to get a better shave, but never a shave I enjoyed -- but see how it goes for you!

  • @T-R.e.x
    @T-R.e.x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this razor same with Parker 97R?
    Because I want to buy one Parker.
    I find also that the Parker handles are fitting perfectly with my Muhle R41. You should shave once with it. With your technique you will find it perfect I think.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not believe so, as the Parker 97R is more like the Edwin Jagger DE89; the 24C is an open comb head with a different head geometry.
      I would avoid the 24C and go for the closed comb version of the Parker razor.
      As for the R41, it is on the list for this year!

    • @T-R.e.x
      @T-R.e.x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, bought the Parker 97R as you suggest and I have to say, OH MY GOD, what a handle. Washed it with liquid dish detergent and guess what. The handle with full of slicky soap, wasnt not even slippery!
      It also fits perfectly to my R41 head. Time for Frankenrazor.

  • @juanmosey
    @juanmosey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ride the cap then, Mike?

  • @Sunny-vt6kw
    @Sunny-vt6kw 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should review the nivea shave cream! Its cheap! you can just go a local walmart and grab it and review it!

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Abhishek Sharma Apparently it is really good, I am on the lookout...

  • @jonathanlewis4077
    @jonathanlewis4077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome bro keep it going bro

  • @joshfortune
    @joshfortune 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    When's the next vid, sir?

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Josh Fortune Just started up again, sorry for the delay!

  • @Sunny-vt6kw
    @Sunny-vt6kw 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u think this razor is better than EJ DE89?

    • @Nore_258
      @Nore_258 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Abhishek Sharma I find my 24C/26C a bit more efficient than my EJ DE89. That basically just means I get a slightly closer shave.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Abhishek Sharma I think that the DE89 head geometry makes for an easier, less error-prone shave, but I understand that for many others the Parker gives them an easy and irritation free shave. I still think I would recommend the 89 over the Parker for new wetshavers, but it is a narrow margin.

  • @placeholder8647
    @placeholder8647 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    where'd he go?

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Shane Bryant Here I am, back again! Did you miss me?

  • @mikerose51
    @mikerose51 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it’s aggressive I’d want to buy it

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found it more uncomfortable than aggressive. I think the Maggard V3A head might be a better choice.

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah many razors are fickle as to the angle used. I learned a while back that 30 degrees is just a rough guide.
    My Fatboys irritate me like crazy until I saw a clip that suggested a steeper angle (much like you were holding the 24C here) . So I lined up from the bar/comb and lift til I find that nice cutting angle. Changed my opinion of the Fatboy forever from being a man eater to being a very nice shave indeed
    In your case , it seems you needed a shallower angle (moving the handle more away from the face (more up toward the horizontal rather than the perpendicular. I have a a few razors that demand that. In that case I start the lineup from the cap and lower until I hit that sweet spot.
    Badger and Blade forum has a helpful explanation of 'steep v shallow' angles of blade attack:
    badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/410369-So-what-is-the-steep-angle
    It confuses people sometimes. Fickle razors can be tamed sometimes through varying this angle (and some are just not suited or downright antisocial LOL).
    Thanks for taking the time to point this out to viewers - you may just have saved some people from walking away from what would otherwise be a serviceable razor.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark O'Cain I am going to add another comment to the original video and edit the title, too - I don't want people to miss out on a great razor because of my poor angle in that first video.

  • @jonathanlewis4077
    @jonathanlewis4077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my new razor 🪒 today very mild razor shave great heavy metal razor 🪒 there

  • @thadlaunderville7843
    @thadlaunderville7843 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael, I appreciate videos from a guy who _needs_ to shave. Your hair, I would guess, is just as wiry than mine, a bit thicker, straighter, and planted in an obviously tougher skin. Honestly, I don't know why you shave with anything but the slant. Open comb is a deep rabbit hole. Yes, lowering the pitch is important. But I could have criticized any of your shaves on that point, because anchor style razors are just not suitable to my face. Burn city. Tech or Super Speed give me the range of pitch angles I need: 0 to 90 (and maybe more).Once you do that, though, then you have to press the top cap into your face, and hold the skin back behind most strokes... giant PITA, compared to the slant.
    With open combs, I've come to believe that skewing strokes is the real headline. The way skin is microscopically rippled under that guard, when it moves somewhat sideways, is shaving's equivalent of a serrated steak knife. The old Gillette instructions (before 1930) didn't present the "slide" as an advanced technique -- to shave any other way was simply incorrect. And when I took my refined Tech-niques to the NEW OC -- which is basically an open-comb Tech -- this difference really stood out in isolation. Blades that were "dull" in the Rimei, could cut hair in the NEW.
    However, for greatest blade life (I can use Personna blades for over three weeks), I too revert to the steep-angle approach, using a plain old 70's Super Speed to distribute excessive traction to the top cap and safety bar, away from the edge.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Thad Launderville I cannot lie, I do love my Stealth Slant, it is just completely effortless!

  • @torcuato807
    @torcuato807 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnífica maquinilla, tiene buen peso, es suave, muy apuradora, permisiva y con un mango largo y moleteado de buen peso que se hace muy cómodo

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People love this razor, but it just never worked well for me. Oh well, plenty of other options!!

    • @torcuato807
      @torcuato807 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mfreedberg Do you prefer Parker 24C or Pearl SSH 02?
      THANKS

  • @davidpackkard3354
    @davidpackkard3354 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    💪💈👍

  • @pauldance7387
    @pauldance7387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t believe I want a den razor that was that far different than my other ten razors......some razors even find the angle for you., we don’t need it any more complications.

  • @soundvision58
    @soundvision58 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That, with the right angle you should have already know in your first review. You can not shave in the same way with a razor with an open comb as with a razor with a closed comb. For me personally, 24C is a very comfortable open razor, my Barth is not as strong as yours. I have to say that you disappointed me a little. And one more thing, your shaving technique is not the best. You are doing quite a lot of chaos on your face.

    • @mfreedberg
      @mfreedberg  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did struggle with this razor at first, no doubt. The angle required is just not natural for me, and while I can make it work, it will never be a comfortable razor for me. I don't think the head design is particularly good because of the rather extreme angle it requires.
      I must disagree with you, however, on your statement about open vs closed comb razors. You can absolutely shave with them the same way, the comb itself makes NO DIFFERENCE in that regard. The overall head design, blade gap, blade exposure, blade curvature and rigidity all matter -- the safety bar or open comb does not require a change in how you shave. The open comb is not inherently more "aggressive" than the closed bar.
      I am sorry to have disappointed you, and sorry to hear that you think my shaving technique is not the best and that I am "doing a lot of chaos to my face". Perhaps, **if you watch all the shaving videos I posted in 2016, 2017, and 2018**, you will see some minor improvement in my technique and your disappointment will turn into pride for my advances??

    • @soundvision58
      @soundvision58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mfreedberg, SB plates are less aggressive than OC plates because the SB plate's unbroken barrier provides more protection to the user's skin (this is the 'safety' in safety razor).
      Two of the advantages of an OC plate are that they allow more lather to make it to the blade during shaving and they are better at lifting hair, which can result in a closer shave.
      Also, for a given blade geometry configuration, an OC plate will be more aggressive and provide more feedback to the user than an SB plate.
      So...it ultimately comes down to personal preference. An OC plate has a distinct feel and performs a little differently than an SB plate, which some wet shavers prefer.
      Although they can be used for daily shaving, an OC plate also tends to be better at dealing with longer growth that comes from longer periods between shaves.
      Due to the increased aggressiveness over an SB plate, an OC plate will require more attention to use, but this will come naturally to most experienced wet shavers. Beginners can manage an OC plate as well - it will just require a little more care.