I think they should’ve called it the “Sage 5 FRN” because it’s not really that much lighter, but I really like the way Spyderco is going with these new lightweight models.
Agree. There's no re-engineering on this like the the para 3 lightweight. This is the same Sage 5 with just FRN scales. No significant difference on rest of construction. That said, my FRN version is smoother than my standard version. I would be content with just the FRN version and feel no need to go up the the standard version were I to do it over again.
Thanks Bryan, for getting this one up so quickly! I love the fact, that Spyderco has been adding more chamfering on the lightweight models. That LW blade, at the 04:28 mark. Does not 'look' to me either, to be as tall as the one on the G10 version. I was hoping you were going to pull out the caliper, and *tell* us! : - ) At the 10:04 mark of this video. It sure appears to me, that we have a larger area too, in accessing the compression-lock, on the G10 version. Are my eyes playing tricks on me, or? As far as pricing goes. Sal just said yesterday, that it is now Spyderco's plan, to move to a 30% off MAP Pricing structure. Which is up of course, from a 35% off MAP pricing. This knife, is the first to lead in that direction. So that explains the close pricing, for now. Between this one, and the G10 model. Spyderco is also donating approximately 5% of sales of the Sage line, to the National Alzheimer's Association Denver, Colorado Chapter. So that should have us feeling better, about spend of few extra 'shekels' on a knife ; - )
After 35 years of camping and backpacking having a secure grip is my #1 priority so the Sage 5 lightweight. Thanks for the initial review, I am looking forward to your comparison review with the Bugout.
My sage 5 LW came drop shutty out of the box so smooth, but my original sage 5 was not , it had to be broken in quite significant , my personal preference is the LW , so my original will go in it's case , also I swapped a black pocket clip from my Sage 1 to the LW and now it looks super kool , BTW got mine for $113 at GPknives , Thanks Brian
I got mine in a few days ago using your discount code SDWMK at White Mountain Knives, which reduced the price by $12.25 making it $113.25 after shipping. I love this knife. It's so easy to flick open & closed. The Sage 5 LW is my first compression lock. Razor sharp, perfect centering, & fall shutty right out of the box. I love it.
Nice video, thank you. I got one on the way. I’m very excited for it because while I liked a lot about my Sage 5, I really disliked the CF/G10 laminate, the sharp spydiehole and the action.
I’ve been waiting for this to come out I love my sage 5 for me it’s perfect the only thing is I like to have to he heft I hope it’s not to plastic feeling either I getting it.
I see your point, if I had a regular sage 5 not sure this would be as interesting. However after getting the S5LW It feels much nicer than my para 3 lw. Dam, now I want a regular sage 5 too.
I feel like updated pivot should be considered when comparing to the original Sage 5. Also, mine has a much better detent than the other sage 5s that I have owned/handled, but that may be an anomaly.
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I really like the looks of this one.If you want to check if the blades are the same shape, trace an outline of each on paper & overlay them. Won't be exact, but should come close. I own a couple of Spyderco's, but both are back locks. Ive been wanting to try a compression lock. The leaf blade shape is also better looking than the bird head Delica in my opinion.
Tristan Russell Thanks for the advice. It has been cleaned, lubed with KPL, and adjusted. Action is still a disappointment. Spyderco is clearly aware that Taichung was producing poor compression locks. They have added a special bushing to the LW to improve the poor action and the Kapara got the QCI treatment. That’s not to say that some didn’t have excellent actions, Slicey lucked out and got amazing actions on both Sage 5 and Kapara. I was not so lucky. My LW on the other hand with the improved action is wonderful, and exactly what I would expect from a compression lock.
If the Sage 5 LW has better ergos than the original Sage 5, that makes it tempting, even though it seems like it show be going for $105 or $110.. I wonder what Spyderco is trying to do with the Sage series. Right now, Blade HQ lists the Sage 1, the liner lock version, as discontinued, so a series designed to showcase different locks will now showcase only the compression lock in two different handle variations. One more note about price, at $135, the Sage 1 looks like a bargain compared to $122 for an FRN Sage 5, especially if fidget factor is low on one's priority list.
Great review/first impression of the Sage 5 LW. I wanted to ask , how is the action of the lw vs the regular since the lw has the pivot bushing now? I get my LW tomorrow. Counting the hours now. :P
For those minor differences and the minor difference in price I would be very tempted to agree with you. Only question is when watching the top 10 most carried you repeatedly said ergos were most important yet they didn't carry the day here why is that??
IMO Spyderco really should have done a Sage 6 "FRN" (not lightweight) with a button lock or something. Part of the Sage series is all the different lock mechanisms etc. It's not really all that different from the CF and pretty disappointing to be honest.
The para 3 lw is only $40 cheaper than the normal and it has a "lesser" steel. So this being $30 cheaper and still having s30v seems reasonable. The 1/4 oz difference though is what kills it for me. I think the bugout is going to kill this in the battle to the death (and i think it's cheaper too now?)
I love my para 3 lw, but the width is a bit much, the centering has never been right and it feels bendy and cheap with so so steel. These are all addressed with the sage 5 lw. Easily worth the 25 extra bucks. But... My para 3 lw ain't going anywhere. It'll just have another buddy. 😂
120 for plastic handles. Nope wouldn’t do it for the Bugout def not for this. I’ve got an old school CS voyager with plastic handles vg1 that does all that I need for a lightweight knife. 90$ for Para 3 lw I could live with just bc Of compression lock
I think they should’ve called it the “Sage 5 FRN” because it’s not really that much lighter, but I really like the way Spyderco is going with these new lightweight models.
Agree. There's no re-engineering on this like the the para 3 lightweight. This is the same Sage 5 with just FRN scales. No significant difference on rest of construction. That said, my FRN version is smoother than my standard version. I would be content with just the FRN version and feel no need to go up the the standard version were I to do it over again.
Thanks Bryan, for getting this one up so quickly!
I love the fact, that Spyderco has been adding more chamfering on the lightweight models.
That LW blade, at the 04:28 mark. Does not 'look' to me either, to be as tall as the one on the G10 version. I was hoping you were going to pull out the caliper, and *tell* us!
: - )
At the 10:04 mark of this video. It sure appears to me, that we have a larger area too, in accessing the compression-lock, on the G10 version. Are my eyes playing tricks on me, or?
As far as pricing goes. Sal just said yesterday, that it is now Spyderco's plan, to move to a 30% off MAP Pricing structure. Which is up of course, from a 35% off MAP pricing. This knife, is the first to lead in that direction. So that explains the close pricing, for now. Between this one, and the G10 model.
Spyderco is also donating approximately 5% of sales of the Sage line, to the National Alzheimer's Association Denver, Colorado Chapter. So that should have us feeling better, about spend of few extra 'shekels' on a knife ; - )
Knew about the new MAP. Didn't know about the donations. That's awesome!
You know what would be interesting? A Shaman lightweight.
After 35 years of camping and backpacking having a secure grip is my #1 priority so the Sage 5 lightweight.
Thanks for the initial review, I am looking forward to your comparison review with the Bugout.
A para2 lightweight would be a must buy. Thanks for the review. I’m still loving my para3 lightweight.
Agree with your impressions and conclusion. Sticking to my regular sage 5.
Been carrying this model since April. Love it. Only other model it splits time with is my Dragonfly.
So wild the weight isn’t that far off between the LW and the regular! Thanks for sharing the comparison as that will help me decide which one to get.
Great vid just like the unboxing
My sage 5 LW came drop shutty out of the box so smooth, but my original sage 5 was not , it had to be broken in quite significant , my personal preference is the LW , so my original will go in it's case , also I swapped a black pocket clip from my Sage 1 to the LW and now it looks super kool , BTW got mine for $113 at GPknives , Thanks Brian
I got mine in a few days ago using your discount code SDWMK at White Mountain Knives, which reduced the price by $12.25 making it $113.25 after shipping. I love this knife. It's so easy to flick open & closed. The Sage 5 LW is my first compression lock. Razor sharp, perfect centering, & fall shutty right out of the box. I love it.
Was waiting for ur review love Nick
Nice video, thank you. I got one on the way. I’m very excited for it because while I liked a lot about my Sage 5, I really disliked the CF/G10 laminate, the sharp spydiehole and the action.
I’ve been waiting for this to come out I love my sage 5 for me it’s perfect the only thing is I like to have to he heft I hope it’s not to plastic feeling either I getting it.
I see your point, if I had a regular sage 5 not sure this would be as interesting. However after getting the S5LW It feels much nicer than my para 3 lw. Dam, now I want a regular sage 5 too.
The regular doesn't have the updated pivot bushing.
I’m not a fan of the look of the sage five but then I’ve not held one either. Thanks Brian for the review.
Cool knife as thanks for the share....Good stuff....
Thanks! Anyway i will go with lightweight one.
I feel like updated pivot should be considered when comparing to the original Sage 5. Also, mine has a much better detent than the other sage 5s that I have owned/handled, but that may be an anomaly.
I honestly can't feel the difference with these new pivots.
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Great knife
Awesome nick is really cool
It has a pivot bushing too, something else that’s different from the original (I believe)
Can't feel the difference at all.
I like it, Nick, much more than the Bugout, though either one makes for a good, urban EDC.
The sage is my favorite spyderco.
7:46 My Delica runs on steel liners and bronze washers. Has this changed?
If I want to try a really good Spyderco, what would you recommend? I’ve owned a Para 3, when they came out, wasn’t happy with it....
Nice one ! I agree the original looks better ! Great overview , thanks for sharing !
Good comparison.
I really like the looks of this one.If you want to check if the blades are the same shape, trace an outline of each on paper & overlay them. Won't be exact, but should come close.
I own a couple of Spyderco's, but both are back locks. Ive been wanting to try a compression lock. The leaf blade shape is also better looking than the bird head Delica in my opinion.
William Mancel you’ll love the compression lock. That’s all I want to buy now. It like a grown man’s fidget spinner.
I'm excited to see that it has a great action. I have always liked the Sage ergos, but have been disappointed by my Sage 5's terrible action.
Tristan Russell Thanks for the advice. It has been cleaned, lubed with KPL, and adjusted. Action is still a disappointment. Spyderco is clearly aware that Taichung was producing poor compression locks. They have added a special bushing to the LW to improve the poor action and the Kapara got the QCI treatment. That’s not to say that some didn’t have excellent actions, Slicey lucked out and got amazing actions on both Sage 5 and Kapara. I was not so lucky. My LW on the other hand with the improved action is wonderful, and exactly what I would expect from a compression lock.
looks like a winner. I love all the new light weight stuff that they are coming out with. What I really wanna see is a Lil'Native Light Weight. lol
If the Sage 5 LW has better ergos than the original Sage 5, that makes it tempting, even though it seems like it show be going for $105 or $110..
I wonder what Spyderco is trying to do with the Sage series. Right now, Blade HQ lists the Sage 1, the liner lock version, as discontinued, so a series designed to showcase different locks will now showcase only the compression lock in two different handle variations.
One more note about price, at $135, the Sage 1 looks like a bargain compared to $122 for an FRN Sage 5, especially if fidget factor is low on one's priority list.
Im not sure if you mentioned it, but the sage 5 lightweight comes with a pivot bushing for drop shutty goodness vs just the washers of the sage 5.
Can't feel any difference.
@@SliceyDicey was your sage 5 drop shutty out the box? Mine had to be worked with quite a bit.
Great review/first impression of the Sage 5 LW. I wanted to ask , how is the action of the lw vs the regular since the lw has the pivot bushing now? I get my LW tomorrow. Counting the hours now. :P
FallenKnight71 About the same to me, but my Sage 5 is really well broken in.
@@SliceyDicey I was thinking that would be the case. Thanks for the info. :)
I really want to see a PM2 lite weight.
Oh no...I can't unsee the blade difference, even if there isn't one.
What difference is there with the pivot collar on the LW?
Rusty NewsNowNorCal Yes, but it doesn’t feel any different in this one to me. My Sage 5 is well broken in.
Did you change the clip on the carbon, or are they different?
Different. Apparently depending on when you got it. Some have the shorter one and some have the longer one.
For those minor differences and the minor difference in price I would be very tempted to agree with you. Only question is when watching the top 10 most carried you repeatedly said ergos were most important yet they didn't carry the day here why is that??
I'm a human and not always 100% consistent. And it's a VERY slight difference.
Thanks for your thoughts.. also the lw version has a piviot bushing
Can't feel it. My Sage 5 feels exactly the same.
I'm with ya. If I'm going to get an FRN version it better be lightweight and lighter on my wallet.
I wonder if this knife will be getting an annual price increase starting next year? 🤔 That would suck.
I wanna see a battle to the death with the chapparal.
Enough time has passed. You can come back now. All will be forgiven.
IMO Spyderco really should have done a Sage 6 "FRN" (not lightweight) with a button lock or something. Part of the Sage series is all the different lock mechanisms etc. It's not really all that different from the CF and pretty disappointing to be honest.
Alright you sold me a bugout
spydeco knives will allways be better than any benchmade especially the steels that spydeco uses far superrior bro my opinion
blade length? not what's on the site. Actual measurement.
If it was $100-105, it would be a bugout killer
The para 3 lw is only $40 cheaper than the normal and it has a "lesser" steel. So this being $30 cheaper and still having s30v seems reasonable. The 1/4 oz difference though is what kills it for me. I think the bugout is going to kill this in the battle to the death (and i think it's cheaper too now?)
Sage Lt wt VS Para 3 Lt wt... BATTLE TO THE DEATH!!!
In a few days...
They look a whole bunch like the same knife...lol.
I dont like this trend of spyderco charging more for plastic scales. This makes the chapparal lw seem like a bargain.
I think there's more to this than just different scales . Kinda dropped the ball here I think .
I mean.. the para 3 is just so much cheaper.. idgaf about liners and s30v
The sage just has that blade to handle ratio on point... That and thinner blade stock. That's what I like more about the sage.
I love my para 3 lw, but the width is a bit much, the centering has never been right and it feels bendy and cheap with so so steel. These are all addressed with the sage 5 lw. Easily worth the 25 extra bucks. But... My para 3 lw ain't going anywhere. It'll just have another buddy. 😂
120 for plastic handles. Nope wouldn’t do it for the Bugout def not for this. I’ve got an old school CS voyager with plastic handles vg1 that does all that I need for a lightweight knife. 90$ for Para 3 lw I could live with just bc Of compression lock